Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

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Originally Posted by waza

Stetts town locking it in

We need to get a wagon that’s not me or Stett or ender if we want any hopes of not giving wolves freelo for the first couple of days

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Join me on Artuwuic

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Originally Posted by Lissa

I almost think this is like, pockety?

like... obviously ender doesn't really have the context either. but not saying anything about it himself and just directly going to agreeing with sunbae about it kinda feels fake

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Bae is bae. I don't make the rules.

(Ssssh I'm trying to pocket em.)

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by Arctic

mmmm this isn't really an alignment concerned post i just find it interesting how waza has like the polar opposite approach to me in games lol. i don't like being involved in the narrative and i find it messes up my reads a lot, so i rarely read others based on how they're reading me either even if it does give me an inkling one way or another. i guess it's more pertinent when you're a focal point of discussion, and well i guess i rarely am, but it still gives me whiplash to see so many reads based on how someone is handling one's own slot

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I use what’s given to me lol

Funnily enough someone made this exact post you did not long ago except replace how people are reading me with meta instead, and then another game replace that but with w/w and pairing interactions. D1s are scarce for info so I work with what I got, most people didn’t post much so what I’m left to use is how people are handling me and vibe reads mixed with meta

The longer the game goes the more diverse my reads get usually

Also I almost think that Lissa post is like, wolfy?

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Also that read on me from Arctic feels at best premature since I realised the game was going at midnight and had one (1) spate of posting.

I'm going to call that ~not a good look and move on with my life.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Vote: Arctic

Actually lets start here.

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if i had a nickel... lmao

but yea. i knew it was uncharitable since u hadn't found anything u believed in yet and i said as such, which is why i'm not super onto your case rn. if this is the one you're gonna choose to believe in then it's not gonna help me much either, though, lol. that post was more of a "idk how to read ender and if i reached maaaybe this is wolfy" but im not gung ho about killing you particularly (i'll just let it happen when you get voted at eod :3)

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Join me on Artuwuic

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That post is mostly for others not for me, I’m committed to bussing rask today lol

I do have Arctic related thoughts but I wanna sit down and properly digest his walls and then respond properly to them before I decide what I’m doing with Arctic

Also @waza you have 4 posts remaining with a little less than 24 hours be careful.

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Originally Posted by Arctic

if i had a nickel... lmao

but yea. i knew it was uncharitable since u hadn't found anything u believed in yet and i said as such, which is why i'm not super onto your case rn. if this is the one you're gonna choose to believe in then it's not gonna help me much either, though, lol. that post was more of a "idk how to read ender and if i reached maaaybe this is wolfy" but im not gung ho about killing you particularly (i'll just let it happen when you get voted at eod :3)

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It's okay at least I'm not mixing you up with Vulgard this time.

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Originally Posted by annika

I don't rly think it's Stett tbh

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who do you think it is then :o

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Originally Posted by Maple

Oh? I'm sort of curious what you're looking for then. Do you think I'm working off the mental model of someone who randed vengeful and not the person who died d1-2 or died (or otherwise) unfulfillingly for the past... mm, I'm not really sure how many games. Whatever the exact number might be. Because what really gets me wondering is what's the point so far? Just messing around for fun, basically?

I'm completely happy to indulge yapping for yapping's sake, of course. The entire chain struck me as performative, except within the model of "wants to have the opportunity to play out a game", a bit of performativeness -- I think -- is permissible.

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hm.

I'm not just messing around for fun.
I'm also not yapping for yapping's sake.

This feels a little bit overly dismissive.

You said "i really don't want to die d1." that's useless to me b/c i never die d1. It's not something I need to want, b/c it doesn't happen.
The phrasing on that q to annika is kinda funky.


@ ben I read 209 and 210 but i don't really agree that taffy felt narratey. I'm considering cracking into a w!taffy scumrand to compare but ehhhhhh booo meta

115 116 idk this rlly isnt what id frame as wolfy commentary posting. It feels like taffy has underlying process

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Originally Posted by Visor

maybe

to me, the way the she approached the start of the game was very much like brute forcing an entrance

actually reminds me of how lissa entered in the anon game where initially i thought it was wolfy (and then i got railroaded and went way off base lol)

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I feel like that's just kinda how stett enters games though?

(also funny/weird and extremely tangential but getting a bunch of free townreads at the start of the mash that I realized were basically because normally I come into the thread like several hours after sod and post like it's sod and I didn't there because I spent an hour posting at sod was kinda like... it really made me want to alter my approach to start of games lol. just in general I've been thinking about like how to start actually getting nightkilled as a villager too and just generally my approach to earlygame as well as some other aspects of villaging. and idk how to do it regularly cause the mash problem is I kinda NEED that sod-y posting to get into the flow of the game but getting early townreads like that was soooo nice??)

(also I think it was basically impossible for you to ever find me mid d1-d3 the way that game played out with you getting railroaded for bad reasons, it made it insanely easy for me to post good about it because it was all real thoughts lol)


visor seems villagery

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Originally Posted by Visor

this is a pure bad take (tm)

but annikas read on wazas flip was villagery uncritical

i think normally i'd tend to just say that its kind of a bad (maybe almost tmi spewing) village read from a wolf but i think i have come around to it being too unconcerned and blatant, which can be like a lazy wolf kind of read to make, but i don't really get those vibes from someone who bothers to post links to post numbers

i am not explaining this nearly as well as I wouldve liked, but i just think that while that kind of read is normally a lazy wolfread, i think given how they are playing it isn't

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this read is kind of just like

it's presented in a more village visor sort of way imo

the specific way it meanders a bit and the layers of it

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

it’s interesting to me Ladd and visor have expressed early/initial wolf leans on taffy and that’s been largely not discussed vis a vis lots of other people’s takes on taffy’s initial posting

im not doing anything with that (and I realize I might be one of the people who could have moved that discussion prior to now but c’est la vie and all) but maybe others can talk about their read on taffy’s intro burst

stetts recent posting is kinda rough tonally, particularly to arcy re: ladds posts about her, :/

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my initial impression was "yeah that's just town" because taffy doesn't.. really strike me as the type of player to go after a high influence thread leader as wolf, but ladd cited some meta which suggests otherwise (i think?) so i had to re-visit the actual substance of the takes, and from that i didn't really feel one way or another about her post on you, but i think her post about sunbae was pretty villagery? i agree that i don't reaally think sunbae would care about the 3 hour delay between lissa's posts. i never really verbalized any squinting at sunbae for this but it was something that crossed my mind

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Originally Posted by waza

Stetts town locking it in

We need to get a wagon that’s not me or Stett or ender if we want any hopes of not giving wolves freelo for the first couple of days

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why do you TR Ender o:

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Originally Posted by Arctic

my initial impression was "yeah that's just town" because taffy doesn't.. really strike me as the type of player to go after a high influence thread leader as wolf, but ladd cited some meta which suggests otherwise (i think?) so i had to re-visit the actual substance of the takes, and from that i didn't really feel one way or another about her post on you, but i think her post about sunbae was pretty villagery? i agree that i don't reaally think sunbae would care about the 3 hour delay between lissa's posts. i never really verbalized any squinting at sunbae for this but it was something that crossed my mind

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I don't have meta but taffy definitely strikes me as someone who would go after a high influence thread leader as a wolf, just from what I know of her like personality.

I think that her entrance was villagery regardless though.

meh i'm really not seeing the visor townreads guys >.<

the post about annika felt like verbalized in a way such that he was trying to get townread and he doesn't have other reads with that same level of depth of thought which i feel lends credence to what i'm saying, and people even recognize that his push on stett didn't feel great which is the main thing i'm suspicious of - not just the detached comparison to lissa's game, but more the way he was sort of sewing the seeds there in a shady way

i think he is the wolfiest person amongst active posters. i feel like ender got a tiny bit towny but i'm not sure

I actually feel like sunbae as a wolf would be more likely if anything to just assume my entrance string of posts had context.

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Originally Posted by pzelda

So, catching up.
p1: waza v, annika v, benneh (if nebijamm is benneh) might be v, but their activity seems little artificial, little bit like busy work I don't know who Stett is, v reads are basically for throwing v reads in early, visor and lissa not so towny so far
p2: lissa still not very towny imho, they're getting weird free town reads, I like sunbae's entrance - straight to business, probably v
p3 (and p4): friends chatting - I can't take a whole lot from that atm, taffy looks slightly w for their entrance and their lines of questioning stuff, there's some negativity, weird reasons for voting benneh and they were rooting out some of the early v leans of other players. All wolfy tbh, could be w/w with Maple for that bomb inventor comment.
p5: I skipped some long comments from waza, I should return to them and read them properly to see if they hold any water. Stett (didistetter, I understand now) can be villa lean for wanting to eat? The rest of that post is fairly weak and quite defensive tho. Pointing out fair enough probably nai but I also feel like taking that v lean back.
p6: Visor's not towny here, I kind of want to see townreads from him. Most of his stuff is negative. The single townread is ok and I think it makes annika quite likely town for a half-stupid reason. If Visor is wolf he probably is trying to pocket them. If he's town, his reads tended to be good.
p7: Also Annika not townreading Visor for that is a good look.

Villas - Annika, waza, sunbae
Villa leans - Benneh
Nulls - Ender, ladd
Negative vibes - Stett, Visor, Lissa, Maple
Wolf leans - taffy

vote: Totally not Taffy

Ok, I know I haven't provided any explanation for some of these, I might do it later or just answer any questions.

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I disagree with like the majority of takes in this post but it's villagery.

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Originally Posted by pzelda

Ok, I'll try.
I know most of you. I even played some Mashes with Lissa and others few years back. I know many of you can be scary wolves and I tend to get paranoid d1. That means I often end up being hedgy and in most of my more recent games I wasn't very active and got chopped d1.
I admit it's a little bit of meta, but I know Visor can push me as a wolf. He always managed to find me when I was a wolf too. So, him trying to pocket me would be a new thing. Also him calling that post villagery for that reason alone would be a stupid move. He could do it for later town cred or he could ignore it or question some of my points as a wolf. Actually I think that would be the most reasonable thing to do from a wolf's point of view. I would either explain them well or I would get lost and he would have an ideal opportunity to call me a wolf.

Btw You're correct. My reads are shallow and I'm trying to make that transparent.

Your powerwolfing. See that might be another shard of meta. I know you're great at wolfing. But I don't really recall your style. I can't really base my takes on your meta. That's where the idea started. But in context of this game it works as well. You've been active and pushing other players. But I can't see the direction you're pushing in - your agenda. You're not exactly pushing a certain player in order to start a wagon on them. There were basically no wolfreads on you to uproot, so that's a difficult part to read. I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself well here, but something in your posts is murky and it could be possibly wolfy (like you uprooting Annika townreads with your counter take), but it's not quite there and you're not quite in the position to run the thread. Also, It might be too early for all of this.

So, Sunbae has this masterful entrance and the rest of his posts are all chill vibes, mostly fluffing with others. That's my impression without rereading them at least. There might be more content in them. But I think it's enough. There's a strong first impression Sun needed to share and then they just wanted to hang out. Frankly the newer posts in the thread weren't super ai. nd Sunbae just dialing back gave me a really good gut feel. They didn't feel forced to solve or fabricate more reads.

Ok, I hope this explains my thoughts a little bit.

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huh who are you on mu? ignore if already answered I'm sure it probably has in the like ten hours since this post lol

I think your thing about visor is like, really villagery here, it's a villagery perspective in the right kind of messy way

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Originally Posted by pzelda

Btw is Manti? That would explain their style. Also, I kind of wish not knowing. It might be cool to work without that meta. Maybe it's because Maple started that conversation and Lissa reacted to it without trying to do anything else. All of that might be just two old friends having a good time or Lissa having a lighthearted conversation with her wolfbuddy. Because it's easier to interact like this without the interaction feeling forced. It's a good way to establish interaction w/w. Also you can use it to townlean each other later for a good chat later on.
And Lissa being more wolfy is because of her previous entrance, which on its own is nai, but my take here is that after returning to the thread and finding some actual content, she would be more likely to interact with reads in a meaningful way. Instead she decided to fluff with Maple.

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you might appreciate having the context that me and maple (who is manti yes) just got out of going deep in a super intense wolfgame together (the one I mentioned to sunbae) and it ended literally yesterday evening

I think benneh is a villager btw.

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Originally Posted by ladd

more likely wolf than villager but it's pretty thin

their push on benneh reminded me a bit of their wolf game where it felt like it was a bit too narrating of what happened vs why it's wolfy and a bit narrow

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hmm

I definitely think that as a concept tends toward being wolfy, but I didn't get that vibe from her post; lemme look at it again

taking another look it doesn't feel like the like. SUPER wolfy version of what you're describing imo, the narrativeness is more intertwined into the read? kinda?

idk anything about the meta aspect of it though

I do agree about the narrowness, she does have some oddly narrow interpretations of benneh's behavior. I originally townread her for the like semi almost aggro-ness of parts of that benneh read and kinda for the sunbae read but the former is possibly a personality thing I'm calling villagery too easily I guess?

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Originally Posted by Maple

ye was skimming this morning and i suppose what had stood out to me the most is that stett didnt wait for us to get online and at laset react to the string before retracting it

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yeah I was kind of like

well I still am really confused about the fake reads thing

like.. what?

and she admitted it so fast I don't see what use she thought she was getting out of them yeah.

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Originally Posted by Maple

bruh emoji wre showing up in the preview but they got wiped away

https://i.imgur.com/j4zr0Iy.png


and there was a blush emoji somewhere in there

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I was kinda wondering about the question marks lol

dumb read alert but I feel like taffy saying specifically that i was annoyed at sod with how interactions were going is interesting and possibly towny language for what i was doing

i think any number of wolves would choose to use less derisive language and instead call me aggressive or agenda'd but annoyed feels like it comes from towny moundset? they felt like my prodding was from a place of annoyance at what waza was doing but if taffy were wolf and knows the alignments of me and a few others and coming up with a fake read, would they choose 'annoyed'?

like lissa just espoused, the ladd and visor reads gave me some pause because i was also concerned i was doing that dumb thing where you give someone credit for pushing you too easily and it becomes a thing but both of them kinda 'a-ha!' agreeing about the narration/narrow mindedness of it kinda rubbe dme the wrong way. and moreso visor than ladd since ladd originated it.

i still think visor is towny for reasons related to what lissa linked a bit earlier in how he shaped his reads though so idk maybe he's right

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Originally Posted by Maple

This's been on my mind recently, but I guess there's no better place to talk about this than an Org game! I've honestly felt like I've been in a bit of a rut for ww. It's like, I've had one good village game in the past year, and that's about it. Coming back to the game, I knew I would be a lot worse at it than I was before, but it's hard to get better again. Even in like Bean game I was very successful at being a mediator, bridging gaps between players, pointing out inconsistencies in peoples's reasonings and trying to conclude v/v fights reasonably. But when it came down to the wire Apoc (who i HATE grrrr) was right: i simply did not have enough threadpull (or confidence) to pull the trigger on what I beleived to be right (saving newcomb, and eliminating one of my EVIL girlfriends).

It seems most games that's the issues. I never have confidence in myself and my reads, and while I am able to fairly profiecently work with other people -- either helping other people form reads, or to crunch information in thread -- I either lack the confidence to close things out or I present myself wishy-washily and people don't trust me in the end (such as the case in the Tarot game lylo).

Conversly, I get back into wolfing, and it's easier than ever! I've randed wolf a lot of times this year, and basically every single time I just wash the village in a different stupid way (other than the hydra game but that was hydras so it wasn't my fault). Like in the shots mash on d2 I put every single living wolf on a single line in my reads in the confirmed tier. Every single one! And people just don't punish me. I can lie so easily, convince people to go along with the most rediculous things, manipulate people INTO things and then 3 days later manipulate them OUT. I just don't get it! There's always been desparity between the quality of my v and w game, but the gulf at this point is immense.

So how do I get better at playing village? I cooperate, I mediate, I try to drive up the bar where I can. But I'm obviously missing something.

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you just gotta have that confidence I think

fake it till you make it, or even if you never make it

(says the pot to the kettle)

I've worked on that a lot over the years, but really need to do more I think

I was talking in the mash about how wolves never kill me early anyway (which I mean me being alive within the context of certain ways the game was playing out was very wolfy so it was like a ~reasonable read for them to make anyway but that is a true thing) and it honestly kind of annoyed me when I thought about it, like I want to fix that??

confidence and the benefits of it are definitely so much easier as a wolf lol

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

dumb read alert but I feel like taffy saying specifically that i was annoyed at sod with how interactions were going is interesting and possibly towny language for what i was doing

i think any number of wolves would choose to use less derisive language and instead call me aggressive or agenda'd but annoyed feels like it comes from towny moundset? they felt like my prodding was from a place of annoyance at what waza was doing but if taffy were wolf and knows the alignments of me and a few others and coming up with a fake read, would they choose 'annoyed'?

like lissa just espoused, the ladd and visor reads gave me some pause because i was also concerned i was doing that dumb thing where you give someone credit for pushing you too easily and it becomes a thing but both of them kinda 'a-ha!' agreeing about the narration/narrow mindedness of it kinda rubbe dme the wrong way. and moreso visor than ladd since ladd originated it.

i still think visor is towny for reasons related to what lissa linked a bit earlier in how he shaped his reads though so idk maybe he's right

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yeah that's like, a big part of the aggro-ish thing I was talking about re: taffy

by the way, i had a think in my car on the drive home and i'm going to be annoyed but more understanding of waza's play today if we find out he's like, in a neighborhood with a few people up to and including rask, and that's why he chose to play today with the vigilance of a thousand suns against a zero poster while he defends a bunch of other people without any reason while placating to several other people in the thread before he could have any real substantial read on said people at any point

if that's not the case and he's just punting around as whatever he is then ill also be annoyed but less understanding






lissa, thoughts on maple, annika, and arctic? i haven't digested much of any of their recent posts yet but maple seems lost in the deluge of a werewolf existential crisis and i'm sympathetic to it but i wish they had real reads instead (perhaps they do and that is in the parts i need to yet digest)






also had the thought that this game feels like i'm wolf siding so far, and i've kinda attacked any and everyone so far, so that's prob true to some extent, but i also feel like despite the potential wolf siding that i'm potentially probably doing i still feel i'm not the one playing poorly. i wish people would kinda not be lazy (or at least be lazy in the forms of like, visor or ladd are so far)

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

by the way, i had a think in my car on the drive home and i'm going to be annoyed but more understanding of waza's play today if we find out he's like, in a neighborhood with a few people up to and including rask, and that's why he chose to play today with the vigilance of a thousand suns against a zero poster while he defends a bunch of other people without any reason while placating to several other people in the thread before he could have any real substantial read on said people at any point

if that's not the case and he's just punting around as whatever he is then ill also be annoyed but less understanding






lissa, thoughts on maple, annika, and arctic? i haven't digested much of any of their recent posts yet but maple seems lost in the deluge of a werewolf existential crisis and i'm sympathetic to it but i wish they had real reads instead (perhaps they do and that is in the parts i need to yet digest)






also had the thought that this game feels like i'm wolf siding so far, and i've kinda attacked any and everyone so far, so that's prob true to some extent, but i also feel like despite the potential wolf siding that i'm potentially probably doing i still feel i'm not the one playing poorly. i wish people would kinda not be lazy (or at least be lazy in the forms of like, visor or ladd are so far)

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Yeah waza's posting around rask is weird unless he's... exactly in a neighborhood with rask lol you're not wrong

Honestly I have no idea what alignment maple is lol

Really feel like I should have some idea

My heart says town but like

I'm really easily pocketed by the kind of thing she's doing this game ngl

Annika feels like a villager

Arctic idk I'll get back to you I think a lot of his posts are after I've read to yet

Why do you feel like you're wolfsiding so far?

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

by the way, i had a think in my car on the drive home and i'm going to be annoyed but more understanding of waza's play today if we find out he's like, in a neighborhood with a few people up to and including rask, and that's why he chose to play today with the vigilance of a thousand suns against a zero poster while he defends a bunch of other people without any reason while placating to several other people in the thread before he could have any real substantial read on said people at any point

if that's not the case and he's just punting around as whatever he is then ill also be annoyed but less understanding






lissa, thoughts on maple, annika, and arctic? i haven't digested much of any of their recent posts yet but maple seems lost in the deluge of a werewolf existential crisis and i'm sympathetic to it but i wish they had real reads instead (perhaps they do and that is in the parts i need to yet digest)






also had the thought that this game feels like i'm wolf siding so far, and i've kinda attacked any and everyone so far, so that's prob true to some extent, but i also feel like despite the potential wolf siding that i'm potentially probably doing i still feel i'm not the one playing poorly. i wish people would kinda not be lazy (or at least be lazy in the forms of like, visor or ladd are so far)

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If you really want to then I can tryhard ig lol

What sparked this interest in you btw? Iirc in the signups of the game you said you were gonna be slanky, what changed? (It’s a welcome change and if more people were playing like you I probs wouldn’t need to play like the way I’m playing but yeah I’m curious)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fbA_agbrOg

:bow:Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0:bow:
Day 1 - Votes from post 1 through 292

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
2	EnderWiggin	didistetter (23), nebjiamn (38)
1	didistetter	Visor (24)
1	Raskolnikov	waza (47)
1	Totally not Taffy	pzelda (11)
1	Arctic	EnderWiggin (25)
1	nebjiamn	Totally not Taffy (10)
9	Not Voting	Arctic (19), Lissa (23), Maple (18), Raskolnikov (0), Sunbae (13), Totally not Taffy (10), annika (22), dyachei (0), ladd (12)

Ok since the fella is already at 48/50: i'll try to break down my read so he has something to respond to instead of me just calling him wolf before he caps. It'll take a while tho cause i wanna be thorough.

@nebjiamn

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

how common are millers in org game, and would i hypothetically need to be concerned about false reds in an unspecified setup

@Lissa can you unpack your tr on annika pls

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Originally Posted by Maple

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh like it might really just all come down to that. i feel like i could write 5 guides on how to village proficiently, so obviously my fundamentals and general process must be at least *fine*. And when I play with hydras/on teams things generally go fairly well! Which is probably ya know putting two minds together, and having someone to confbias your good reads and sanity check you on stuff.

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it is indeed so much easier when you have a pseudo mason/s lol

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Originally Posted by Arctic

name a more iconic duo than mafia players and sacrificing their physical/mental/emotional health for the sake of the game

random question but how do u only have 58 posts here when u joined 10 years ago

like thats nearly as long as annika has been alive

anyway i hope u take care of yourself now it's over ^^ these games are chill vibes it's always a good time :D

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I made an account originally to play one game ten years ago; it had oot components

somehow I've never played over here since, maybe in part because for a couple of years I was semi-retired except a couple mashes/occasional invitational a year

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Originally Posted by Arctic

I honestly dunno how you read Ender. Feels like every game he marches to the beat of his own drum and a lot of it is shitposting. I benefited from it last game I played with him where I was wolfing against him and he got voted out on day 2. But I feel like his shitposting had a different flavor there. Or at least it was accompanied by some form of read that I felt like he believed in. I remember he scumread the guy everyone consensus townread on day 1. I dunno if it's uncharitable to make a comparison like this to this game, cuz there are just. no real reads yet. or a tleast nothing i get the impression he seriously believes in

on a micro level, the only thing that pinged me was the way he spoke about ladd - "i townread ladd, idk what to do about this" i think it was, that last part just seems like smth a wolf says to make it seem like they're conscious of the fact they're townreading someone too early, but a villa would be more.. concerned about the implication of this on their read, like whether or not they should have it, or qualifying how sure they are about it, etc.

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"idk what to do about this" is kind of... just... a weird thing to say about a townread earlyish d1 without more context? what do you mean like what do you think you're supposed to do about it

he did call a post of mine wolfy which is certainly not the most consensus, but he did it after you made this post I guess, and not the most weighty by itself

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Originally Posted by Maple

I'm completely happy to indulge yapping for yapping's sake, of course. The entire chain struck me as performative, except within the model of "wants to have the opportunity to play out a game", a bit of performativeness -- I think -- is permissible.

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Good morning, I'm just catching up before heading to work.
I like this part from Maple. I think he's trying to find a possible villager in didi and that's a good look. I also wonder if he's heading somewhere with his discussion on being a good villager.
Because I disliked that Arctic chose it as one of posts to react to. My first impression of Arctic isn't very good.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Maple is... weirdly spiralling in a way that feels abnormal for previous games. But idk if that's wolf or town so I've decided to ignore it for now and see what happens. Gut probably leaning towards town but it's not based on anything I have conviction in.

Sunbae is bae.

Waza is treating me how I expect him to do as town. We'll see how this grows.

Annika I want to wolfread but also I do that a lot when they're town in Turbos and therefore I'm ignoring my earlygame gut on her.

You I want to wolfread for the scattershot "see what sticks" approach but also you posted an Epic animatic and therefore you deserve to live. :curtain:

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I almost wanted to call Ender town before this post, but I would also say this has some w/w potential.

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Originally Posted by waza

Stetts town locking it in

We need to get a wagon that’s not me or Stett or ender if we want any hopes of not giving wolves freelo for the first couple of days

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Who do you wanna lunch? Rask obv doesnt count as long as they are at 0 posts

You are at 3 posts left so feel free to answer later




@annika on why it feels benneh will die n1, its a joke i like to make when he is an obvious villager and present itg (and he is both this game) cause he tends to get got early in those games. Doesnt matter whether he is right rn or not, he is clearly being a positive for the village eheh

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Originally Posted by didistetter

Ok since the fella is already at 48/50: i'll try to break down my read so he has something to respond to instead of me just calling him wolf before he caps. It'll take a while tho cause i wanna be thorough.

@nebjiamn

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

how common are millers in org game, and would i hypothetically need to be concerned about false reds in an unspecified setup

@Lissa can you unpack your tr on annika pls

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Mainly I think the way she interacted with/handled you and waza and your combined dynamic was villagery. Feels like she was trying to parse that collection of posting without any interest in capitalizing on it.