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Well, maybe one of them names him to keep him alive and the other group to get him lynched :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
He seems to be very popular.
Mafiosi can take part in vigilante groups and they can withdraw from it themselves to make it fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
What's your point, exactly?
That is the point. Everything he's done so far seems to point to him being innocent, but it's also all WIFOM, because a mafioso could do the same things to make himself look innocent.
As such, I don't know what to think of him. :shrug:
It's not uncommon for hosts to accept orders for mafioso A from his partner B. And the mafiosi can have team mates to write the messages for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
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Originally Posted by ATPG
vs.
~:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ATPG
:inquisitive:
What are you smoking, pizzaguy?
Lord WinterQuote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Last Activity: 05-20-2009 00:48
Posted on the 18th on these forums, as well as the 8th and 16th. He obviously got his role PM.
So you're saying Lord Winter completely blew off his entire team? Just abandoned everyone even though he was one of the most important roles in the game?
I don't think so. But believe what you want, because as a claimed investigator, I WILL get lynched or vigilante'd or killed by the mafia.
It's utterly ridiculous.
What's utterly ridiculous? That you'll get lynched or killed because you claimed "investigator"? Most of us will be lynched, vig killed or mafia killed by the end of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
And about Lord Winter completely blowing off his team, that same argument could be used if he had gotten the role of pro-town investigator, no? Mafia or detective, both are important roles, so your argument isn't exactly convincing.
It's ridiculous that I would be Caesar or Pompey and claim to be an investigator. Because, that means the "rival" mafia have 2 potential reasons to get rid of me. And claiming investigator is also a pretty fair way to get oneself lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
I am not that concerned with convincing you, though. You can believe whatever you like. :shrug:
I'm getting bad vibes from Ignoramus. He was in the know for our little group and we've been getting booted off one-by-one. In addition, he's a bit more active than usual.
Sounds good to me. Ignoramus being active does reek of him having a role. I take it he didn't claim to be anything important, GH?
vote: Ignoramus
Vote: Ignoramus
I'm getting rather irritated with these tyrants. They should have stopped by my cozy home by now. :bigcry:
Me being dead, I'm not sure how much I'm exactly allowed to reveal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Didn't he publically reveal himself as a faction shifter?
This is the role he claimed in the thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Surely, by now you have more to add to the discussion than just this, dear 'khaan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan
:thinking:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Hmmm.... nope.
Wait....
Actually, I still think YLC is total scum for rolefishing me.
Why so evasive, 'khaan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan
So, GH, there's not anything you can reveal?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
As a matter of fact, yes, but not to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan
:yes: Very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Was Andres ever proven innocent? Because I smell an Andres bluff.
I'm about to vote for Shinseikhaan.
Dear Pompey,
I've been looking at your lists and trying to make sense of them. I initially thought that the first list was a list of Populares you know of and when the other list came up I figured it was a list of Optimates you know of, but then I noticed that woad&fangs was on both lists! That makes no sense and has left me very confused over the meaning of your lists. So could you be kind enough to explain to a confused Optimate what your lists are meant to achieve?
Yours,
Spinther
Vote: Khaan
For nonsense. Repeated nonsense.
You want to be killed so much by the mafia; let's see how you like being lynched instead.
so much WIFOM.... god, this is getting complicated
Vote: Shinseikhaan, because who in the world would want to die in a game as great as this. you keep asking to die, why? could you explain?
I'm getting a headache. Vote Khaan ^^What he said
Vote:Cultured Drizzt fan
Still bandwagoning I see.
The claim is that I was visited by pompey's daughter, so I must be either pompey or a new convert. However, I see no reason why pompey's daughter would be sneaking in to see her father, and I was told that GH was roleblocked by the woman visiting him. I wasn't visited by pompey's daughter in any case.
no, but I can see at this point there is no reason to abstain, if Shinseikhaan can come up with a good reason he keeps moaning for the mafia to come and find him my vote will change.
I just got home from taping a movie and after reading through the posts decided to vote Shinseikhaan, call it what you will.
Um... you do know that theres an edit button?
:embarassed: no comment
Oh thank you, thank you, sweet Jupiter, for finally aligning to have this miserable existence extinguished!
uhhh why?
Oh dear merciful host. He doesnt have a joker role does he?
ok I will bite, whats a joker role?
An "end the game if I die" role. Its very nasty: if we lynch/kill him and it turns out hes a joker then its game over and everyone dies.
I seriously doubt that TinCow would include such a role in this kind of game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
:shrug: then maybe hes an actor role?
Meh. I think TinCow hates those kinds of roles just like most of us do. I think Khaan is being his usual roleplaying self. If he happens to be mafia it looks pretty bad for him anyway. I'd just hate for him to die since I'm Pompey and he's one of my subordinates.
I think Ignoramus is an equally lovely choice.
But uh....um wha.... oh dang you and you wifom's.:wall: Dang you all to heck!Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
If such a Role exists I will contribute with a donation to burn down TinCow's house or apartment.
In any case, khaan's attitude is very weird. However, repeatedly asking for the Mafia to kill him when there are two Mafias and he would belong to one of them is even weirder. My bet is he is a Consul or Praetor.
I would abstain again, but this deep into the game I suppose I should make my vote felt too.
Proscript: CulturedDrizztFan
Not only have you given me some vibes towards scumminess. But Cicero did vote change for you so I'm willing to bet he knows something we do not.
Although Shinsei seems like a good lynch, I'm going with my gut here and vote for Ichigo. Something just isn't right with him. Firstly his reaction to his murder attempt in the write up seemed very ominous and now he has gone missing from this thread since Thursday morning, despite actually visiting and posting at the .org during the same time. It does strike me as something planned rather that something done out of indifference, especially when the contrast to his previous activity is marked. I find these to be valid reasons to suspect Ichigo enough to warrant a vote for his lynch. Additionally I'm still puzzled at who actually protected him as it seemed like they were his own guardians, not a senator group.
Vote: Ichigo
He either doesn't have guards, or they were away protecting someone else last night. So, yes, I do think it's suspicious that he was leaving clues that he might be a Consul/Praetor. Then again, without him there is still one missing defense role to be found...Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Ok I can accept the scumminess vibes part of your vote, people tend to say that about me all the time.... but I am not sure why you think Cicero changing the vote would affect your judgment. if you did that you also have to accept that Navarro vote change was for a good reason, and I doubt it was. if Cicero can change votes then that means he cant also have a special investigation ability, so he is going on the same thing we are, opinion. I think we are focusing far to much on what Pompey, Caeser, and these vote changers have to say, and leaving all the thinking to them, I believe is a mistake. we have to come up with our own conclusions, so if anyone has a legitimate reason I should be lynched then please do, I wont stop you.
I cant believe we are even considering that the things Pompey and Caesar are revealing in their messages are true.... :no:
Vote: Ichigo
Don't parade around as something your not.
Don't lynch Khaan, quite pointless to do so. I know what you are Khaan, but we don't need to get into specifics.
What is it with all these people thinking they don't need to explain why they want town to vote or not vote someone?
*Sigh* Care to explain why we should not lynch Khaan?
This reads a bit like you have an agenda in protecting khaan.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
No, but it's pointless to do so in a sense - either he is after it and we waste two night kills the mafia must make on him, or we don't, and the mafia must waste 2 night kills on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
If he's lying, then he makes himself a target of the mafia needlessly, and thus we shouldn't bother with him. Remember, we have 2 mafia families, so the argument of WIFOM won't work in this situation for him.
But he hasn't claimed any role. He just invited the mafia to kill him.
Care to explain for those who don't have your information?Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Correct Tally (I think):
Iskander: 1 (Caius)
Ignoramus: 2 (Khaan, ATPG)
Khaan: 3 (Chaotix, CulturedDrizztFan, Greybldes)
CulturedDrizFan: 2 (Sasaki, Jolt)
Ichigo: 2 (AD, YLC)
Khaan either is a mafia playing reverse psychology or has "kill who ever comes to kill me" ability.
Anyways, I like to see khaan alive for now.
Vote: Ignoramus
Iskander: 1 (Caius)
Ignoramus: 3 (Khaan, ATPG, Beefy)
Khaan: 3 (Chaotix, CulturedDrizztFan, Greybldes)
CulturedDrizFan: 2 (Sasaki, Jolt)
Ichigo: 2 (AD, YLC)
vote: TheFlax
Because I'm not convinced by any of the cases against people with votes on them.
Not necessarily. Don't take anything as given in a game where everone has an ability. There is also the possibility that Cicero is working with others who do have investigative functions. In my humble opinion, Senators, Cicero would seem to be a neutral agent. Not tied enough to either would-be tyrant to support them, but lacking his own faction to support him. I would also tend to accept the word of such an elder statesman, and do not think that he would use his magnificent oratory lightly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan
I would trust Nero's claim as being able to switch sides, and furthermore believe that those targeting him would either be Pompeians or die-hard Optimates who wish to gain victory alone, supporting Pompeius rather than the rightful Republican government.
While I would not put it past Sasaki to use his own name in a dictator's list of targets, I feel that he is being used as a scapegoat in this case. And as a final thought; the greatest lies contain a grain of truth.
Vote: Cultured Drizzt Fan
Actually Caius I've been pretty active, if you'll look...just haven't had as much time in the last 48 hours, but I do what I can. Reading through these posts I think both Ignoramus and Drizzt seem a little scummy, although Ignoramus' reveal doesn't seem too fabricated. And I really doubt that TinCow would put in a Joker role, but then again, you never know.
Sorry Drizzt, I know you and I are friends, but to quote Donald Trump, "It's nothing personal, it's just business."
Vote: Cultured Drizzt Fan
There's a loop, there's loop, in and in out out it goes, where you belong, no one knows, but round and round it goes, where it will stop and with whom few know, but there's a loop, there's a loop and round round it goes, why you were once part of it, but oh noes! There's a loop, there's a loop, up and down and everyside it goes, but there's a loop, there's a loop, round and round it goes, and your not a part so off you go, oh there's a loop, there's a lo-, oh you know how it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
YLC est persona insana.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Unvote: khaan
If YLC is telling the truth about him, then yes, indeed it would be better for the mafia to take him out than us.
Vote: Ignoramus
I'm not convinced that Ichigo is mafia, yet, and I highly doubt the reasons CDF is being voted, if there are any reasons. Thus, Ignoramus, who remains an unknown, lurking quantity, gets my vote.
Ignoramus took part in a protection last night, and claimed a role which could switch allegiances which doesn't seem likely as a mafia cover role.
edit: drizzt seems a bit nervous
very well. That does make sense to me.
unvote, vote: Cultured Drizzt Fan
Vote: Khazaar.
His night action pm for a townie action was sent late so it failed, pathetically. A cover to pretend he didn't realise when the phase ended, so could commit another (scummy) action?
You can't be serious.. You just revealed someone who could've been doing a pro town job.. :thumbsdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
If you had any interest in if that was a mistake or not you´d contacted me first via PM, right now you´re just looking for a scapegoat. Anyway I think the fact that both dictators target saskai might be becasue they both want him dead. Pompeii alredy offered Cesar a truce, real or not the reason for that seems to be the level of organization of towns nightactions that could potentially threaten both dictators.
Vote: Ignoramus
still wanting to see what he really is since he got mentioned by pompeii.
OOC: When I say Nero I mean Ignoramus. In essence Ignoramus is Tiberius Claudius Nero, an Optimates senator who claims to be able to switch sides to the Populares based on his personal service with Caesar. Historically the role PM was accurate and did not seem fabricated. He was mentioned by Pompey in the context of the dictatorial one not wanting a potential side-switcher alive. Anyone who claims that Ignormaus is a shadowy unknown is not paying enough attention, or more sinisterly playing politics...
Are you trying to set some sort of record for bandwagoning? First you try to claim innocence because you're a replacement player, then you jump on anyone who gets more than two votes. Vote: ATPGQuote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
You're right. That does sound like scummy behavior. I'd better make sure I get rid of everyone who suspects me or else I'm done for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tratorix
unvote, vote: Tratorix
ahhh well, it was a good run, have fun finding Pompey and Caesar guys.
but why lynch me? I don't see a legitimate reason in here? could you explain? I can see it wont matter much though, ah well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio
I'm going to go a cruise now and will be back on Tuesday morning.
have fun!
Were you ever proven innocent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Why are there two night kills required to dispose of him instead of one? Can you elaborate on that? Slip of the tongue?Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Serious FoS : YLC.
I smell a mafioso who revealed too much.
reading through the thread i feel :dizzy2:...
cant really make a case or agree on a case against anyone and dont want to bandwagon either...
Vote: Abstain for now
That's the easy way out. You're either a lazy townie or a mafioso who is satisfied with the current lynch target.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Do some effort, surely one of the living guys must seem suspicious to you.
Abstaining will get you nowhere.
Vote: Cultured Drizzt fan
I seem to get a scummy vibe from him everytime, I might be wrong but I dislike his rampant vote switching. Unless someone points me toward a better vote, I'm going with this.
Your previous post in this thread is from May 19th and this is all you have to say?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
Before you go back to lurking in the shadows, how about you give your opinion on past events, other players etc. instead of just jumping on the bandwagon?
Or did somebody pm you to quickly cast a vote?
dang, I seem to send of scummy vibes to everyone (not you everyone...)...... first mini mafia and now this :dizzy2: I need to work on how I play these games....
Tally as of post 792
Cultured Drizzt fan: 5 (Sasaki, Jolt, GSC, Iskander, TheFlax)
Ignoramus: 4 ('khaan, Beefy187, Chaotix, Khazaar)
'khaan: 2 (Cultured Drizzt fan, Greyblades)
Ichigo: 2 (AggonyDuck, YLC)
Iskander: 1 (Caius)
TheFLax: 1 (w&f)
Khazaar: 1 (johnhughthom)
ATPG: 1 (Tratorix)
Tratorix: 1 (ATPG)
Abstain: 1 (atheotes)
sigh..... I really would prefer not to die.....
Unvote: khaan, Vote: Ignoramus yep I did it, sold out my beliefs to live.... :shame: I now live in shame....
Now it shall be up to the gods of chance.
“First appearance deceives many.”
- Publius Ovidius Naso
https://img33.imageshack.us/img33/44...ingresodea.jpg
Several days into the crisis, the Senate was still having difficulty determining the best course of action to take. There was little unity expressed in the debates, and Senators continued to accuse their own friends on a frequent basis. One of the most prolific accusers, Cultured Drizzt fan, finally provoked the ire of the Senate with his inability to make up his mind about who was the greatest threat to the Republic. Whenever other fingers began to point in different directions, his finger soon followed as well. This annoyed many Senators, and soon Cultured Drizzt fan found a large number of fingers turning towards him.
Ignoramus as well found himself on the receiving end of many votes. He had proclaimed a willingness to cooperate with both factions, and this unnerved many men who preferred the safety of partisanship rather than equanimity. Cultured Drizzt fan defended himself vigorously for a long while, proclaiming his innocence and dedication to restoring the Republic to its proper glory, but these pleas fell on deaf ears. So, with no other option left, he changed his vote again, this time to Ignoramus to create a tie.
As the session drew to a close, an older man in a fine, white toga rose and addressed the Senate. He talked about the Trojan who fled the destruction of their city to southern Italy, he talked about Romulus and Remus leading their peoples to the Seven Hill, and he talked about ancient Brutus overthrowing the Tarquinian Kings. It was an eloquent summation of the long road the Romans had taken to the Republic, and many men grew sentimental during the oration. Towards the end, the older man turned to Beefy187 and asked if he would personally help save the Republic. Swelling with pride for his city, Beefy187 shouted emphatically in the affirmative. “Well then, sir, surely Cultured Drizzt fan is the person most worth of your vote…” Beefy187 nodded eagerly. Of course he was, why hadn’t he realized that hours ago? Beefy187 quickly changed his vote to Cultured Drizzt fan.
The Senate had long ago embraced the proscription, and once unleashed it was a brutal animal that fed of its own accord. As the hours drew to a close, Cultured Drizzt fan was the chosen meal. He looked around the room, then bowed his head sadly. “I regret that I have failed you and the Republic. I submit myself to your judgment.” Cultured Drizzt fan saluted his fellow Optimates, and walked out into the forum. As his proscription was announced, the Mob descended on him with weapons bared. They were not merciful, and soon Cultured Drizzt fan lay dead in front of the rostra. One over-enthusiastic man cut off his head, so as better to prove his claim to Cultured Drizzt fan’s possessions. The Senators cut a wide path around the disgusting scene as they filed out of the Curia.
It would be another long night.
Cultured Drizzt fan: 6 (Sasaki, Jolt, GSC, Iskander, TheFlax, Beefy187)
Ignoramus: 4 (Cultured Drizzt fan, 'khaan, Chaotix, Khazaar)
Ichigo: 2 (AggonyDuck, YLC)
'khaan: 1 (Greyblades)
Iskander: 1 (Caius)
TheFLax: 1 (w&f)
Khazaar: 1 (johnhughthom)
ATPG: 1 (Tratorix)
Tratorix: 1 (ATPG)
Abstain: 1 (atheotes)
Not Voting: 7 (LittleGrizzly, everyone, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, Ichigo, Marshal Murat, Captain Blackadder, Ignoramus)
Alive (25):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
Sasaki Kojiro
everyone
johnhughthom
AggonyDuck
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Chaotix
Khazaar
Ichigo
Jolt
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Captain Blackadder
atheotes
Tratorix
YLC
woad&fangs
Askthepizzaguy
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius
Killed (8):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
Proscripted (4):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
WoG/Suicide (0):
It is now Night VI. This night phase will end on Monday, May 25th at 12:00pm EST.
Well, at least Cicero's Consistent. :skull:
everyone satisfied? good game though people, have fun Finding Pompey and Caesar. just don't put to much faith in Cicero and the messages the tyrants leave you.
In the mini-mafia, you was killed by the Serial Killers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan
Unfortunately, you had to be a human. :sad:
good point....
Anyone notice Cato has gone missing? Either he went inactive or he has been lynched...hmmm...
I'm staying at my girlfriends tonight and she has no internet, so may not be on tonight or tomorrow. Please don't kill me.
edit: Maybe I should follow Shinseikhaan's example and say please kill me? It has kept him alive...