Faction List for EB2?

This is what I suggest:

Celtiberians: both they and the lusotannans should be easilly killed any of the other two factions but ultamatly carthage should conquer most of iberia and both these factions. When that happens, another faction should apeear.

Barca family: and they should be FRACKING POWERFULL and if possible have some kind of script that will make it steamroll to Rome.

Koinon Hellenon should be seperated into factions, one led by sparte and another by athens I think.

Asia Minor needs another faction, Pergamon?

Roman rebels

Seleukid rebels.

4 more random barbarian factions.

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Originally Posted by Caveira

This is what I suggest:

Celtiberians: both they and the lusotannans should be easilly killed any of the other two factions but ultamatly carthage should conquer most of iberia and both these factions. When that happens, another faction should apeear.

Barca family: and they should be FRACKING POWERFULL and if possible have some kind of script that will make it steamroll to Rome.

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Hmmm....what? Easily killed?

The Phoenicians had been Iberia for at least 7 centuries before the game's period, and the Carthaginians in particular since probably the late 7th or 6th century BC...what makes you think they didn't try?

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Originally Posted by Alexander777

Also, I do agree that the town of Massylia would be in a better position for a western African faction, but is there enough historical evidence to give it factional units?? :help:

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No not the town Massila, I mean the north african area of Massalyie, (maybe it's the dodgy spelling) they were like the numidians, but further down the coast from Carthage, in the area south of iberia.

Yes, I know that is the town you are talking about. I just wonder if there was enough historical evidence to provide them with their own special units.

Just a hunch, but will "Occultus" be a faction?

It will be, but once it's announced it no longer will be. :beam:

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Originally Posted by Geoffrey S

It will be, but once it's announced it no longer will be. :beam:

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Eh? :inquisitive:

What is that, a Catch-22? Are you saying I've just destroyed the Occultus faction, or that whoever announces its release will have destroyed it?

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Originally Posted by I Am Herenow

Just a hunch, but will "Occultus" be a faction?

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That faction will be in EB2. Yes.

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I almost added Occultus to the FAQ, but didn't since I hadn't seen a question about it since all of EB1's faction's had been decided.
Hint: It's a Latin word...

I think this is some sort of inside joke, I believe Occultus is a name for factions yet to be announced or like in Khelvan's signature he was working on the unseen parts of the game.
Occultus meaning in latin: clandestine, hidden, secret.
So it's definetely not a playable faction as the team I believe wouldn't waste their time on a "secret" faction that would be like an easter egg in other games.
Am I close guys?

Oh right, so it's a generic term for factions still to come?

I thought it was strange the best Wikipedia had to offer on the subject was some heavy metal guy :beam: - and now Geoffery's post makes sense lol

I think keep all the great factions of EB for RTW, but add like ma by a Scandinavian tribe. Add a Hibernia one as well (Ireland). But also a Semitic tribe like of ancient Israel.

I would like to see the ancient vah-jynas....they were very prominent near the bush.

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Originally Posted by SouthernTrendKill

I think keep all the great factions of EB for RTW, but add like ma by a Scandinavian tribe. Add a Hibernia one as well (Ireland). But also a Semitic tribe like of ancient Israel.

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No, in discussion, No.

My Wish List for factions:

- A Balto-Slavic/East Germanic culture, such as the Przeworsk or Zarubintsy (start in Neurije, Seliun Gentis etc.)

- Greek Skythai - a power until Mithridates made them vassals. They were prospering, even though they were driven out of many of their old lands. The Sauromatae would get a rival. They would start with Skythia, Taurike Chersonesos, and perhaps Maeotis and Mikra Skythia, but not Bosporion Tyrannensis (the Spartocid dynasty lasted until c.110 BC).

- Numidia, which i know is being worked on as I speak. They will probably start with Mauretania Tingitana, Mauretania Massaesili, Numidia, and Mauretania

- Ethiopia, the Semitic-African kingdom. The Semitic language was not due to Sabaean influence but native Semites, who lived in coexistence with Ethiopians. There is actually a fair bit of history of Ethiopia, it probably wouldn't bee too difficult.

- Bastarnoz, the influential and quite powerful Thracian-Germanic people. History might be somewhat limited, but Imperial Roman records as well as archeology would give good strong descriptions. They would also fill in a large empty space between the Sauromatae and the Sweboz and Getai.

- A Scandanavian culture, if at all possible, and a northern extension of the map, to accurately place Sapmi.

- A Hibernian tribe. The Prehistoric Irish music could be put to good use! And more Hibernian provinces - there are only 2, and it's a tiny island.

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Originally Posted by Bootsiuv

I would like to see the ancient vah-jynas....they were very prominent near the bush.

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You know I heard that we all owe our lives to them, and a lot of time is still spent looking for them, I guess there might be some ancient ones around but their live descendants interest me most :holmes:

are you able to be romans in eb2? what is this ppl are saying of rebel roman faction?

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Originally Posted by Redmeth

You know I heard that we all owe our lives to them, and a lot of time is still spent looking for them, I guess there might be some ancient ones around but their live descendants interest me most :holmes:

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:2thumbsup:

Well, maybe the ancients could teach us a thing or two.:knuddel:

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Originally Posted by Iasonis

are you able to be romans in eb2? what is this ppl are saying of rebel roman faction?

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Yes, EB2 covers the same time period as EB1.

East German Tribe - balance Sweboz in east
Remi - Belgic tribe, balance Sweboz in west, more resistance to Rome
Celtiberi - represent Celtic presence in Iberia
Goidili - unique culture, balance Casse in Britain
Roxolani - balance Steppes region, prompt Sarmatians into action
Numidians - provide challenge for Carthage if it chooses African route
Roman Rebel Faction - for civil wars
Pergamon - represent Greek presence in Asia Minor
Bosphoran Kingdom - very culturally diverse and interesting faction
Illyria - prevent immediate Greeco-Dacian wars, culturally inbetween

In order of personal importance:

1. Syracuse
2. Pergamon
3. Bosphoran Kingdom
4. Galatians
5. Celtiberians
6. Kingdom of Noricum

I still would like to see a northern faction put in... In like Sweden/Norway; Plus it would help balance the Germanic tribe to the south; and give them a fight so they don't have an easy fight with rebels for most of the game. Which was easy in the RTW version. And another questions.Who where the "vah-jynas* peoples*" I cant find a single thing about them any where.

oh sheesh. ^

I'm seeing some nice faction ideas, but we're not choosing factions based on the number of times people name them--we need good information, archaeological finds, mentions in ancient texts. If you really want to see a particular faction in EB2, that's what we'll need to see.

I don't quite understand why SouthernTrendKill's post upset you so much.

Also, this is kind-of off-topic, but as people keep talking about more factions for North Africa, what was going on historically in the rest of Africa in this time period? In other words, if you were to extend the EB map to include all of Africa, down to what is now South Africa - I'm speaking entirely theoretically here, of course - would there be any major civilizations you could include? Or was it very divided and fractured?

I like Caledonian Rhyfelwyr's list of new factions, he gets my vote :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by I Am Herenow

I don't quite understand why SouthernTrendKill's post upset you so much.

Also, this is kind-of off-topic, but as people keep talking about more factions for North Africa, what was going on historically in the rest of Africa in this time period? In other words, if you were to extend the EB map to include all of Africa, down to what is now South Africa - I'm speaking entirely theoretically here, of course - would there be any major civilizations you could include? Or was it very divided and fractured?

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essentially very little!

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Originally Posted by SouthernTrendKill

And another questions.Who where the "vah-jynas* peoples*" I cant find a single thing about them any where.

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Pronounce the name of these "people" a few times and you will be enlightend. :clown:

Ok, good solid facts is what you want, then well here is a start... Well the were settlements in Sweden and Norway as far back as 7500 BC and slowly moved southward creating what we now call Germany. Many of the people there lived mostly like Germanic people; They farmers, hunters, and were woodsmen. There is a start for who they are and what life might have been like.
(and might be of some help with units) they were also apart of the battle ax culture.
For religion, I am not to sure as to what for there apparently is little found on Nordic culture. But what I have found is that they widely worshiped a female Mother god "Hertha" which was widely know in there areas. They mostly would be god related to Norse mythology; Thor, Woden etc... Germanic tribes also were closely related has to religion at the time.
I can find more, but thats just what I have for right now.

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Originally Posted by dezzerx

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Pronounce the name of these "people" a few times and you will be enlightend. :clown:

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Fuck'n A, I feel dumb as shit! YES I AM NOW ENLIGHTENED!!!:laugh4:
I was sleepy when I was reading it last night.

Well, also to add on to the Scandinavian areas, geography, and life style: There was actually large amounts of iron mines. So there was plenty of metal working, and they did make weapons/tools etc ya ya ya. To add they were also a very war like people. When some of the people moved southward they usually fought who ever they would meet. And this game starting around 300BC don't give much time for Germanic tribes, because they weren't very powerful until later. And at that time, that was the mid point of the migration. So the Germanic peoples and Scandinavians to the north would be close on almost every thing. And like I said it might also give balance to the Sewboz in EB.