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eod in just over 2 hours
i'm out for the day
if i die I don't have a legacy or strong reads and don't quote my random readslist from forever ago and imply it's meaningful
glgl with eod
~:wave:
:sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
spitball take was that you two were slightly more likely v/v than you being mafiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Cape90
dont remember my exact thought process there
i think what zack means is he's got a n0 peek on me as villagerQuote:
Originally Posted by zack
i want to chop you for this so muchQuote:
Originally Posted by zack
also if i understand the setup correctly, PRs should just hardclaim day 2 because the wolves can't do anything to stop them n2 anyway? get some innocent children and avoid a potential suicide bomb tragedy
Vote: Enderwiggin
ur read on me feels kinda fake manQuote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
out 4 real
:bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by zack
longer they're alive unclaimed the later in the game we could theoretically have clears in, but they can theoretically both claim D1 and be guaranteed to get their actions off N1/N2 anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by zack
aw this is the first time an og has compared me to themselves. I am proudQuote:
Originally Posted by zack
...
i generally dont care for outing roles early and assume this isnt a pl where someone will yolo explode without giving a chance for a claim
You know, there's something really nice about being in a mafia game thats 48 hour days and chill enough that I can just disappear for most of a day and not feel bad or overwhelmed about it. this is how i need to play all my games in the future
vote: zack
come on
let's do this!
:shakehands:
i hard claim the mafia stalker
yeah im just saying that the setup isn't exactly easy to go wrong in (just realized d1 massclaim could go poorly if n1 vest is on a wolf, so d2 is more Optimal but ideally we don't need a massclaim)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
I am blasting at start of day with no regards for human life if I'm chosenQuote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
heheQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
I read this post, and like, there is an explanation here, but nothing that actually tries to assess my content now and why I am town nowQuote:
Originally Posted by katze
why does everyone keep talking about vests
i don't see that in the OP
your teammates?Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
katze, who do you wanna lunch
ladd and zack wanted to let you lead
katze, newcomb, and montQuote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
you were only 1 off
tbh i forgot i was voting you but also im refusing to explain purely to spite you now <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Cape90
the town PRs (and one mafia PR) are suicide vest giversQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
I'm going to do the correct thing now, and prioritise other things and then have some me time for a while before i sleep, if i show up for eod please yell at me because i really dont want to and im enjoying this game a lot and dont feel like getting upset later :P
I'll do my readslist first, i probably have two varieties, one is the GUT list that just feels right, the other one is based on like, posts in thread and what i think would be objectively correct. The motivations won't be good or lengthy unless they are, because I don't feel like doing anything more extensive right now.
dobby - ugly
nebjiamn - just straight up most reasonable posts in the game but that could possibly be because its the easiest way of thinking for me to relate to. The classic "calls out the things i want to call out kinda in the way i would do it" and just feels very yes this is so good.
Sleep - So this is a tough one because Sleep is playing well but just has this different worldview on stuff from what i have, im trying my best to see where their brain is coming from and i think i might see it being genuine town stuff. The initial case on cape where everything about it reeked of confbias and no attempt to evaluate cape felt really off, but our exchange afterwards with posts like this one and this one are very very towny fmpov. Or, fmGpov. (without gut prolly way lower)
zack - Has a lot of good posts first half of the game, together with benneh the one i nodded along with the most when i read his posts. I messed up who posted what for a bit (i thought zack posts were rask posts and referring to cape posts about winston rather than cuth so lolme), so realising that cleared up a lot of the doubts i had on zack, pretty confident town tbh.
monstrbro - town.
EnderWiggin - I've had some big doubts on this slot because a lot of thought patterns have felt feigned (i translated the word from swedish sorry if its a dumb word that doesnt make sense) but the more i think about it i feel like it's probably just from a town mindset and if i go with gut this is just town yes.
katze - nya. ayaya. I've said stuff about their newcomb reads and talked to them about it, i do (now) believe that the push is legit, especially that wall sold me on katze town tbh.
cuthillius - My gutread probably gives cuth way more cred than what i'd give his posts in isolation. It's just the way he focuses on stuff and the things he writes are way less uh "square" than when he's wolfing.
Ladd - I've been flipflopping on ladd, this post just had way more than id expect at that point, but maybe its just the ladd way of pumping out reads and then tweaking. His later posts just feel like they have the enthusiasm and "fire" that town ladd has, especially the more (for ladd) wordy ones, it's also a bit relaxed which is nice to see. Gut says town.
Csargo - From a "haven't really caught up with all the posts and stuff" perspective, he looks pretty alright. There are some posts that feel a bit "thoughtful/digging" (theres a better word for it im sure) in a very towny way and i think with more activity and being caught up he shouldn't be on many woof lists.
Newcomb - tough one because like, kat was locked onto newcomb wolf from start and i think most of the talk about newcomb is founded in that his name has been showing repeatedly idk. I think kat didn't really sell the case well and newcomb has been doing stuff that genuinely look like they're trying to progress the game without trying to like, steer the direction of stuff, ish. Gut says idk.
Montmorency - Seems to be posting more now but idk
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Winston Hughes - This is a tough read because uh, if I say something it'll be omgus. I hadn't paid much attention to Winston other than the Cape thoughts, which I thought were not very reasonable, but genuinely trying to understand the motivation to vote me or even put me as a wolfread out of like "whats going on in their head"ness, and i can't really do it, honestly, but I'll refrain from saying much more there for now.
Cape90 - This is a tough one. Cape feels like the designated "doesn't really fit well into thread dynamics and therefore gets a lot of (negative) attention". The pushes on cape have felt not great for other reasons than the actual cape posts being pointed out - but there's nothing about cape's content that really makes me go this is towny. Gut is telling me that this is really a town player but it's also very much not in line with what my brain tells me.
Sunbae - WEH. I wrote a few posts about Sunbae but, it's a tough one for me. If i place a W read here it's easy to attribute it to just wanting to find Sunbae W at some point in my mafia career, but, GUT tells me wolf, not gut tells me probably town. I will say the rask - sunbae interaction is the type of thing that pings me a lot as possibly w-w (as in if one is w the other one is maybe w) with how rask has approached sunbae.
Raskolnikov - Majority has been like, the monstr stuff and i don't really want to share thoughts on that except it might very well be v/v stuff. Other than that we had a short interaction where dEtAiLs were pointed out but, as a whole i kinda don't see the process at all but i still kinda like where he ends up with his reads, if that makes sense.
hollowkatt - I talked about hollowkatt a bit, with the "motivation" behind his post, and mention briefly a lot of hk posts have pinged me as "this is just wolf". I could write a case but i'm also just, tired. The quick version with a few posts is presented here - This post. Dont think it needs explanation for that point in the game. Then there's
this (1)sequence (2) of (3) posts (4) that just doesn't check out. It feels like the wolf thing where you pick someone to pick on and then push slowly and then finding stuff in the answers that you can build on a case with and then hopefully land in a spot where a misyeet wouldn't look wolfy for your slot.
also i havent read through stuff and moving things around so maybe stuff dont make sense.
ill proooooooooobably not be back tonight xoxo love u all ur beautiful souls
Don't mind me, I'm just gonna spend some time catching up
monty always gets past meQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
okQuote:
Originally Posted by katze
i knew that obv but i just wasn't familiar with the terminology of 'vest' for the suicide bomber. i was thinking someone was also getting / handing out a bpv
i'm still not quite sure and don't really like the pressure of deciding the vote when im more of a sheeple kinda catQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
me and newcomb had some elite distancing cant believe he boomed us both :/Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
I am curious on you expanding this point since I don't think I have been on my A game and I have played semifinals in Champs with you (unless wrong cuth :P)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
Oof. And your zack vote is equity rn. Triple-tie someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Yeah, of course. But suicide bombers should not claim until close to EOD. Who do you think Cuth would bomb?Quote:
Originally Posted by zack
Damn, now this is concerning.Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
I like you more now.Quote:
Originally Posted by katze
You're a dead-weight PR, but who are you protecting with this sacrifice? Is Newcomg your Dark Magician?Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
You already were. Though there's no field for a tie-setter now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
BruuuuhhhhQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
Players Votes
Enderwiggin 4 Raskolnikov, zack, Montmorency, nebjiamn
Montmorency 2 Csargo, Sunbae
Sleep 2 ladd, Newcomb
Csargo 2 Cape90, hollowkatt
Newcomb 2 Enderwiggin, Sleep
Raskolnikov 2 Monstrdude, Cuthillius
hollowkatt 1 Dobby
zack 1 Winston Hughes
Dobby 0
Cuthillius 0
katze 0
Sunbae 0
Winston Hughes 0
ladd 0
Cape90 0
nebjiamn 0
Monstrdude 0
another tally, pls check to make sure its okay
gonna try tinkering with the formatting
remind me of your read on HK?Quote:
Originally Posted by katze
i kinda still feel like dobby might be scum, but if so this is a work of geniusQuote:
Originally Posted by Dobby
probably townQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
think that the thread slowly turning against him is read decay at best and wolfy at worst
_:00
Time to take this into my own hands.
Vote: Rask
Bold the leader?Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
vote: cape
:lipsrsealed2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
darn, monty beat me to a potential rask vote and now he's gonna hop off if i join
benneh, what do you think of winston?
:lipsrsealed2:Quote:
Originally Posted by katze
okay so the sorc hands out like these bomb vest things.Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
still sliiiight town vibes. i think his play is kind of purposely goofy for lack of a better word and is something i just ascribe to be more from a villager in this type of gameQuote:
Originally Posted by katze
I like Dobby's sequence on HK, it makes good sense
benneh, what do you think of katze?Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
Mafia is fun cause you can express an against the grain gut fear read on HK, go to sleep, wake up to people pushing HK, and then get super skeptical on all those people for pushing HK once you expressed concern. Even though you know in your head it makes no sense.
i think dobby's probably town. i liked his catchup a lot and im impressed with his readslist if he's a wolf. slotting sunbae where he does makes a ton of sense too lol
i don't know how to describe my read on him rn, it's wack and i was kinda hoping you'd give me something stronger to work withQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
cause... i think he has a townie meme energy? this is really stupid but i legitimately think the way he's memeing is village indicative
but when he's not memeing i think his posts are pretty :/
i thiiiiiiink it evens out to about the same level of townlean as you have but zack dropping a concern on winstons read on him right after i did is making me think about it a lot more
not much at all. she's polarized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
you had me at 'mafia is fun'Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunbae
thats ur conscience speakingQuote:
Originally Posted by Sunbae
one of us does have to die today
ur mom is polarizedQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
feels bad
in all srsness, she's one of my top villagers. i think there's been some underlying stuff that i've felt that she's sort of expressed that I could kind of meld with without her having to even fully articulate what she's talking about but i just understand because i was in the same headspace. this has been specifically around a lot of the newcomb stuff but there were a few other points throughout the day tooQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
she's a very good wolf though so i'll prob just kill her at f3 out of fear
it legitimately sounds like we have the exact same read on himQuote:
Originally Posted by katze
but zack will forgive us
eventually
I'm still trying to figure out what Winston said about me. They just kinda voted me. I don't see whatever is "unfair"
this but unironically alt-right polarized :crazy:Quote:
Originally Posted by katze
Players Votes
Enderwiggin 3 (Raskolnikov, zack, nebjiamn)
Raskolnikov 3 (Monstrdude, Cuthillius, Montmorency)
Montmorency 2 (Csargo, Sunbae)
Sleep 2 (ladd, Newcomb)
Csargo 2 (Cape90, hollowkatt)
Newcomb 2 (Enderwiggin, Sleep)
hollowkatt 1 (Dobby)
Cape90 1 (Winston Hughes)
test tally pls and thx
Mafia is fun cause I can sit here, think sleep's stuff on cape was towny, feel like Ladd wasn't really reading my posts in a way to figure out my alignment, see ladd and newcomb voting sleep, and kinda wanna close my eyes and sponge it even though my brain says thats bad and dumb
yeah i stole it from wolfchat, good going, they'll never suspect us nowQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
idk im currently trying to figure out who i think is mafia since i am apparently supposed to decide the vote today (im aware its not that serious but it doesn't stop me from giving myself unnecessary pressure on Being Correct)
idk lets throw out something spicy and see if i actually believe in it
Vote: Cuth
get out of my headQuote:
Originally Posted by Sunbae
this might sound obnoxious but i legitimately believe ive been p obvious town this gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Sunbae
i sheeped sleepQuote:
Originally Posted by Cape90
it was a decent case for the early game
my brain is telling me to be a hero and vote newcomb
someone tell me thats a bad idea and that i should feel stupid for having it
Vote: NewcombQuote:
Originally Posted by katze
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Voting Newcomb is a dumb idea katze. Vote Ender instead.
vote: dobbyQuote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Players Votes
Raskolnikov 3 (Monstrdude, Cuthillius, Montmorency)
Newcomb 3 (Enderwiggin, Sleep, nebjiamn)
Enderwiggin 2 (Raskolnikov, zack)
Sleep 2 (ladd, Newcomb)
Csargo 2 (Cape90, hollowkatt)
Montmorency 2 (Csargo, Sunbae)
hollowkatt 1 (Dobby)
Cape90 1 (Winston Hughes)
Cuthillius 1 (katze)
i love textjoin (#952)
i feel much better nowQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
hehe
maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
kinda wanna feel out cuth first but i might swap to ender if the wagons at eod are the same as they are cause i don't rly want rask to go over and i thiiiiink im not enough of a hero to allow a d1 newcomb vote even if i think he's relatively >rand mafia
:stare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
and like i dont feel like those guys should never get a read wrong on day 1 ever because thats an outrageous standard, but i dont think its remotely hard to find me as town this game, i feel like i have been transparent in my thought process, analyzing everyone in the game, and hitting a depth of thought that is hard to fake. i feel like that should be easy to see even without meta. and i havent felt like they were really trying to solve my alignment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
e.g. in contrast dobby suspicion of me felt believable (and im not saying that just because of where he put me in his reads, i think u can see at the time i was responding to him i felt like his read of me made sense). monstr was kinda weird, i wanted to question him on it because i could see it going either way, him going long post = town to my wall was kinda lazy but sometimes villagers are lazy
afk for a bit so i wont get to reply to anything right away
sleep angling for default chop d2
long post = townQuote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
vote: ladd