Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[Cape90]

@Newcomb:

i'm not so much interested in like... convincing you that you're a wolf

okay but how do you convince a person that they themselves are wolf?

[nebjiamn]

who won't you chop today?

probably:

zack
Ladd
Newcomb
Sunbae
katze
Sleep
hollowkatt

HK i have been wavering on a bit but i think that might just be read decay more than anything. newcomb is on the list obviously but not cause i v read him so much as others that i trust are

not keen on lunching everyone not on this list but they're folks i don't think i'm going to spend a bunch of energy defending if their wagons pop up

[Winston Hughes]

zack
Ladd
Newcomb
Sunbae
katze
Sleep
hollowkatt

too many names on that list

[katze]

okay but how do you convince a person that they themselves are wolf?

gaslight gatekeep girlboss

[nebjiamn]

too many names on that list

who would you remove

[Cape90]

so that leaves v/v or v(sleep)/w(cape). personally i don't think cape has been very villagery, partially due to meta reasons - it's something i don't really feel like pursuing strongly today though because i think cape is like, blindingly villagery as town after a few phases.

i don't really know what the ~threadstate~ would look like in any of these worlds, that's not really something i'm great at and i feel like the mafia roles aren't particularly important so it's not like mafia are obligated to like, hard defend their vig or something.

my current take is that it's v/v > v(sleep)/w(cape)>>>>>w(sleep)/v(cape)>>>>>>>>w/w

1. Why is v/v Sleep/me more likely then v/w Sleep/me? I mean the first part of the first thing you talked upon is why you DONT believe I am town for meta reasons.

2. Okay so from what I understand from the rest of the first part is that I become more towny the longer I am alive, etc. Kinda a based take ngl

3. My bet my arm and ankle that Sleep is town

[Winston Hughes]

who would you remove

everyone but hk and sunbae

you?

[Cape90]

gaslight gatekeep girlboss

true, I wasn't considering that

[Sleep]

the fact I don't think katze had a good reason to unvote me worries me

this is...interesting ig

[nebjiamn]

everyone but hk and sunbae

you?

HK and newc would prob be next off my list

don't see a need to prune it any further than that

[Visor]

Tally has been updated, let me know if there are any issues thx

eod in just over 2 hours

[Zack]

i'm out for the day

if i die I don't have a legacy or strong reads and don't quote my random readslist from forever ago and imply it's meaningful

glgl with eod

[Winston Hughes]

Tally as of #868 (editing in)

Players Votes
Enderwiggin 3 zack, Raskolnikov, Montmorency
Newcomb 3 nebjiamn, Enderwiggin, Sleep
Montmorency 2 Csargo, Sunbae
Sleep 2 ladd, Newcomb
Raskolnikov 2 Cuthillius, Monstrdude
Csargo 2 Cape90, hollowkatt
zack 1 Winston Hughes
hollowkatt 1 Dobby
Sunbae 0
katze 0
ladd 0
Cuthillius 0
Dobby 0
Monstrdude 0
nebjiamn 0
Cape90 0
Winston Hughes 0

[katze]

1. Why is v/v Sleep/me more likely then v/w Sleep/me? I mean the first part of the first thing you talked upon is why you DONT believe I am town for meta reasons.

2. Okay so from what I understand from the rest of the first part is that I become more towny the longer I am alive, etc. Kinda a based take ngl

3. My bet my arm and ankle that Sleep is town

spitball take was that you two were slightly more likely v/v than you being mafia

dont remember my exact thought process there

[nebjiamn]

i'm out for the day

if i die I don't have a legacy or strong reads and don't quote my random readslist from forever ago and imply it's meaningful

glgl with eod

i think what zack means is he's got a n0 peek on me as villager

[Winston Hughes]

i'm out for the day

if i die I don't have a legacy or strong reads and don't quote my random readslist from forever ago and imply it's meaningful

glgl with eod

i want to chop you for this so much

[Zack]

also if i understand the setup correctly, PRs should just hardclaim day 2 because the wolves can't do anything to stop them n2 anyway? get some innocent children and avoid a potential suicide bomb tragedy

[nebjiamn]

​Vote: Enderwiggin

[Zack]

i want to chop you for this so much

ur read on me feels kinda fake man

out 4 real

[Winston Hughes]

ur read on me feels kinda fake man

out 4 real

[katze]

also if i understand the setup correctly, PRs should just hardclaim day 2 because the wolves can't do anything to stop them n2 anyway? get some innocent children and avoid a potential suicide bomb tragedy

longer they're alive unclaimed the later in the game we could theoretically have clears in, but they can theoretically both claim D1 and be guaranteed to get their actions off N1/N2 anyway

[Cape90]

some of cape's posts remind me a bit of 2016/2017 era MU Zack

no i wont comment on this further

aw this is the first time an og has compared me to themselves. I am proud

[Winston Hughes]

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[Sleep]

i generally dont care for outing roles early and assume this isnt a pl where someone will yolo explode without giving a chance for a claim

[Sunbae]

You know, there's something really nice about being in a mafia game thats 48 hour days and chill enough that I can just disappear for most of a day and not feel bad or overwhelmed about it. this is how i need to play all my games in the future

[Winston Hughes]

vote: zack

come on

let's do this!

[nebjiamn]

i hard claim the mafia stalker

[katze]

i generally dont care for outing roles early and assume this isnt a pl where someone will yolo explode without giving a chance for a claim

yeah im just saying that the setup isn't exactly easy to go wrong in (just realized d1 massclaim could go poorly if n1 vest is on a wolf, so d2 is more Optimal but ideally we don't need a massclaim)

[Sunbae]

i generally dont care for outing roles early and assume this isnt a pl where someone will yolo explode without giving a chance for a claim

I am blasting at start of day with no regards for human life if I'm chosen

[katze]

i hard claim the mafia stalker

hehe