Re: responding to common objections to bible
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Kadagar_AV
When I first found out about that parasite I had nightmares (I was about 15 at the time).
Re: responding to common objections to bible
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HopAlongBunny
It just strikes me as ironic to have a "perfect" god, create imperfect beings, and then threaten to burn them in Hell for imperfections built into them.
Hmmm, not ironic i guess: cruel/sadistic perhaps.
that is islam, this thread is suppose to be bible. Read op for biblical answer.
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Kadagar_AV
read op
Re: responding to common objections to bible
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total relism
that is islam, this thread is suppose to be bible. Read op for biblical answer.
read op
total relism's MO:
1. Unable to answer question?
2. "read op".
Re: responding to common objections to bible
“Free will does however not exempt from any consequences.” Ah, the same free will that have the abused women at home. “But darling, I don’t want to beat you up. I love you. But you force me to beat you up because you don’t do as you are told, you don’t freely obey the Rules I imposed so I am obliged to beat you up… And you love me too, or I will take care of the second eye...”
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Brenus
“Free will does however not exempt from any consequences.” Ah, the same free will that have the abused women at home. “But darling, I don’t want to beat you up. I love you. But you force me to beat you up because you don’t do as you are told, you don’t freely obey the Rules I imposed so I am obliged to beat you up… And you love me too, or I will take care of the second eye...”
Jesus doesn't beat women... couldn't resist.
But yeah, men are free to beat up women if that's their fantasy. Consequences for such is not.
It is the religious answer to free will. You are free to choose damnation and likewise choose liberation. But the small writing says damnation is default unless you utter "Jesus is Lord" (Christianity).
Even the most pious person, the most innocent infant is damned by default without Jesus. This is my understanding of Christian salvation. But according to Calvinism you are predestined to damnation whether you choose it or not. Likewise those predestined to salvation. Its a rigged system.
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Pannonian
total relism's MO:
1. Unable to answer question?
2. "read op".
Pannonian MO
1] dont read op, than post on thread
2 objection answered on op so ignore.
Re: responding to common objections to bible
I have to honest, I prefer Supernatural (TV shows) approach to it all. It is basically a parallel universe where mythology, legends and religion are all true.
Re: responding to common objections to bible
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Tiaexz
I have to honest, I prefer Supernatural (TV shows) approach to it all. It is basically a parallel universe where mythology, legends and religion are all true.
i prefer there be no god and i decide truth and what i want to be true,were party and adultery are good things. That is utill the day b-4 i die, than i want their to be haven with me included no matter what.
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What's wrong with partying?
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Same question. And with adultery if partners are willing?
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Hax
What's wrong with partying?
They pray to a wine creating deity who even feasts when he's about to get killed, so I guess there can't be much wrong with partying according to their religion...
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Brenus
Same question. And with adultery if partners are willing?
That's easy - when you get married you promise not to commit adultery.
Want to have lots of sexual partners?
Don't get married.
Want to get married?
Don't complain.
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Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
That's easy - when you get married you promise not to commit adultery.
Want to have lots of sexual partners?
Don't get married.
Want to get married?
Don't complain.
Isn't sex before marriage against Christian beliefs?
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Moros
Isn't sex before marriage against Christian beliefs?
So is killing - but the Templars did a lot of killing keeping the roads open in the Holy land (and not just Muslims).
Adultery is a far worse sin than "fornication". The Former involves one person breaking an oath, which is one of the greatest sins for a Christian, and it harms the cuckold despite them having done nothing wrong. Adultery also often leads to violence, family breakup, not uncommonly people are injured or murdered, sometimes the children also.
The issue around sex is something that has bothered the clergy but it honestly wasn't a big deal until the Renaissance.
Read Dante's Inferno, see where "lust" is in Hell as compared to betrayal.
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"That's easy - when you get married you promise not to commit adultery." Only in the Religious ones. The Laic one, you promise to rise yours kids and to help each others (well, if I remember well, as it was a long time ago).
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Brenus
Only in the Religious ones.
My guess you are not married... :sneaky:
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Sigurd
My guess you are not married... :sneaky:
It's not because the Scandinavians forgot how to oppress women, everybody else did. ~;)
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Re: responding to common objections to bible
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Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
So is killing - but the Templars did a lot of killing keeping the roads open in the Holy land (and not just Muslims).
Well, technically its believed the proper translation of the original text was "thou shalt murder" not "thou shalt not kill."