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    When I first found out about that parasite I had nightmares (I was about 15 at the time).
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    It just strikes me as ironic to have a "perfect" god, create imperfect beings, and then threaten to burn them in Hell for imperfections built into them.

    Hmmm, not ironic i guess: cruel/sadistic perhaps.

    that is islam, this thread is suppose to be bible. Read op for biblical answer.


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    read op
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    that is islam, this thread is suppose to be bible. Read op for biblical answer.




    read op
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    Free will does however not exempt from any consequences.” Ah, the same free will that have the abused women at home. “But darling, I don’t want to beat you up. I love you. But you force me to beat you up because you don’t do as you are told, you don’t freely obey the Rules I imposed so I am obliged to beat you up… And you love me too, or I will take care of the second eye...”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Free will does however not exempt from any consequences.” Ah, the same free will that have the abused women at home. “But darling, I don’t want to beat you up. I love you. But you force me to beat you up because you don’t do as you are told, you don’t freely obey the Rules I imposed so I am obliged to beat you up… And you love me too, or I will take care of the second eye...”
    Jesus doesn't beat women... couldn't resist.
    But yeah, men are free to beat up women if that's their fantasy. Consequences for such is not.

    It is the religious answer to free will. You are free to choose damnation and likewise choose liberation. But the small writing says damnation is default unless you utter "Jesus is Lord" (Christianity).
    Even the most pious person, the most innocent infant is damned by default without Jesus. This is my understanding of Christian salvation. But according to Calvinism you are predestined to damnation whether you choose it or not. Likewise those predestined to salvation. Its a rigged system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    total relism's MO:

    1. Unable to answer question?
    2. "read op".
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    1] dont read op, than post on thread
    2 objection answered on op so ignore.
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    The first to present his case seems right,till another comes forward and questions him -Proverbs 18.17

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    I have to honest, I prefer Supernatural (TV shows) approach to it all. It is basically a parallel universe where mythology, legends and religion are all true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    I have to honest, I prefer Supernatural (TV shows) approach to it all. It is basically a parallel universe where mythology, legends and religion are all true.
    i prefer there be no god and i decide truth and what i want to be true,were party and adultery are good things. That is utill the day b-4 i die, than i want their to be haven with me included no matter what.
    “Its been said that when human beings stop believing in god they believe in nothing. The truth is much worse, they believe in anything.” Malcolm maggeridge

    The simple believes every word: but the prudent man looks well to his going. Proverbs -14.15
    The first to present his case seems right,till another comes forward and questions him -Proverbs 18.17

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
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    What's wrong with partying?
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    Same question. And with adultery if partners are willing?
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    What's wrong with partying?
    They pray to a wine creating deity who even feasts when he's about to get killed, so I guess there can't be much wrong with partying according to their religion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Same question. And with adultery if partners are willing?
    That's easy - when you get married you promise not to commit adultery.

    Want to have lots of sexual partners?

    Don't get married.

    Want to get married?

    Don't complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    That's easy - when you get married you promise not to commit adultery.

    Want to have lots of sexual partners?

    Don't get married.

    Want to get married?

    Don't complain.
    Isn't sex before marriage against Christian beliefs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    Isn't sex before marriage against Christian beliefs?
    So is killing - but the Templars did a lot of killing keeping the roads open in the Holy land (and not just Muslims).

    Adultery is a far worse sin than "fornication". The Former involves one person breaking an oath, which is one of the greatest sins for a Christian, and it harms the cuckold despite them having done nothing wrong. Adultery also often leads to violence, family breakup, not uncommonly people are injured or murdered, sometimes the children also.

    The issue around sex is something that has bothered the clergy but it honestly wasn't a big deal until the Renaissance.

    Read Dante's Inferno, see where "lust" is in Hell as compared to betrayal.
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    "That's easy - when you get married you promise not to commit adultery." Only in the Religious ones. The Laic one, you promise to rise yours kids and to help each others (well, if I remember well, as it was a long time ago).
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    Only in the Religious ones.
    My guess you are not married...
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    My guess you are not married...
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    Twice...
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
    Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    So is killing - but the Templars did a lot of killing keeping the roads open in the Holy land (and not just Muslims).
    Well, technically its believed the proper translation of the original text was "thou shalt murder" not "thou shalt not kill."
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