Mass Effect 3

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Originally Posted by rajpoot

What no knows about the extended barrel? :(

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I don't think upgrades are numbered as such, rather they are to an extent ordered by your encountering them in the game. So e.g. you could buy capacity upgrade 1 from a shop and then do a mission, picking up capacity upgrade 2. Or, you could do the mission, pick up the capacity upgrade (which would be level 1) and then buy level 2 upgrade from the shop.

I reckon you'll have missed an upgrade in a mission rather than from a shop (never mind rushing througha reas to save the galaxy, it can wait a little longer) though so maybe you should check the locations - i'm sure someone will have posted them in the internet, maybe on the wiki. http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_Wiki

Well, looks like that extended cut that's been in the works for a while is finally going to ship out on the 26th.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/0...esday-june-24/

It'll be a while before I get the chance to play it, but I'm reasonably hopeful it will at least be less offensive than the regular ending.

Offensive? :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Offensive? :laugh4:

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Oh, fine. They were generally confusing, lore-inconsistent, and poorly explained.

They sure dropped this one as suddenly as a bomb.
I cannot deny that I've been waiting for this, and despite knowing that it probably isn't much I've still somehow built up hope that this will salvage the ending.....

Truth is it probably won't.....just a bunch of cutscenes. Either way I hope it brings an end to the Mass Effect shaped hole and allows me to finally uninstall the game.

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OK nvm. This EC is most probably going to be some bits about squadmates and how they 'end up'.....this podcast puts it plain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y7x...yer_embedded#!

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Originally Posted by rajpoot

They sure dropped this one as suddenly as a bomb.

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Intentional in my opinion. The situation has calmed down, the gaming media as a whole moved on and the more radical elements of the HTL movement simmered to more reasonable levels. Announcing a date a month ago would have been akin to setting the timer on a time bomb. This is a great PR move on Bioware's part imo. By the time shock wears off from the announcement people will already have the DLC in hand. So to speak.

Unfortunately, I think it's safe to say that unless this new ending cures every ailment suffered by the person who witnesses it, there's no way everyone will be satisfied. It's now a victim of its own hype and mythos. However, i'll be playing it. And i'll try very hard to keep an open mind.

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Originally Posted by rajpoot

Either way I hope it brings an end to the Mass Effect shaped hole and allows me to finally uninstall the game.

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I agree 100%. It's been hard to do another play-through knowing that the ending i got was somehow.. incomplete. As someone who enjoyed just about every moment with ME3 (faults and all) its still hard to accept playing it knowing that I'm somehow missing out. One way or another I am looking forward to that feeling being gone. I'll see you guys on the other side.

Yeah... they're not going to fix it though, are they?

The ending has been fairly well deconstructed as... not making sense.

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My favourite gripe - why is Joker piloting the Normandy through a Mass Reley and not fighting in the Battle for Earth?

My second - how come my squad mates on Earth ended up suddenly back on the Normandy for that final scene.

Unless they're lying and it actually is the indoctinated theory, they won't pull it off.

Kudos to BIOWARE for doing what I though was impossible - burning up all the credit they got for making KotOR.

Hmm. afew more hours, still kinda hoping they were stringing us on and they actually are going to use indoctrination.

A tweet from Gamble put it around noon PST, which means around 7 pm GMT....and 00:00 my time.
But since Bioware isn't really known for putting their DLC up on time, and the time it will take for me to download it, I probably won't be playing it till tomorrow afternoon/evening.
Time enough to get ice cream and liquor just in-case the ending is still depressing.

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

Hmm. afew more hours, still kinda hoping they were stringing us on and they actually are going to use indoctrination.

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No matter what, I think the ending will still be vague enough that it's open to interpretation.

Personally I love the indoctrination theory, it fits perfectly (in my mind). If the extended ending they put out isn't quite satisfactory and doesn't disprove it, I'm still gonna go ahead and say the ending is just a dream sequence.

OK just finished playing it.
The most important difference I found was that the starchild is now modeled after Casey Hudson and you get an option to push him off the Citadel. He lands on top of Harbinger (who looks kind of like Mac Walters). Then they both explode.

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On a more serious note -

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The new refusal ending....
I really really hate these guys now. It's like they're saying so you're too uptight to accept the piece of art we gave you. Well you fail. We'll wait till another player comes along who can accept our :daisy:

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JFR it isn't out for PC yet, I watched this on youtube.

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Refusal ending: ....Go f*ck yourselves bioware. You are joining my new pirate to spite list.

I cant only hope the other endings are worth waiting but if this is any indication it's not going to be.

I borrowed the game from a friend of mine and played it for about 2 hours then got bored because it was somehow seriously missing the whole RPG thing the previous 2 games had..

Ashley looks kinda hawt with teh long hair tho :3 xD

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Originally Posted by rajpoot

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On a more serious note -

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The new refusal ending....
I really really hate these guys now. It's like they're saying so you're too uptight to accept the piece of art we gave you. Well you fail. We'll wait till another player comes along who can accept our :daisy:

Edit2:
JFR it isn't out for PC yet, I watched this on youtube.

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I have to admit i actually laughed. Bioware to fans: TOO DEEP FOR YOU :daisy:

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

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Refusal ending: ....Go f*ck yourselves bioware. You are joining my new pirate to spite list.

I cant only hope the other endings are worth waiting but if this is any indication it's not going to be.

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I saw the refusal ending and holy :daisy: that was stupid.

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I mean, I get it. Shepard didnt want everyone to have to be synthetics, but if all they did was add one, Im definitly not getting ME3 until its for really cheap. And even then I dont really want to because I lost all my previous Mass Effect savegames. Over 200 hours lost in one hard drive failure. Yay.

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Originally Posted by Monk

I have to admit i actually laughed. Bioware to fans: TOO DEEP FOR YOU :daisy:

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So... Destroy ending makes even more sense now we know the kid is really just a dick. Also, everybody note how the Normandy is no longer crippled (you don't see it and she takes off at the end) and the relays are now just damaged

It's like someone's having a nervous twitch over there - they can't quite admit they screwed up, even though they want to.

For those wondering all of the endings are now on youtube. Just search "Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut" and then the ending you want to see. Destroy, Synthesis, Control, and Refuse.

I was somehow expecting more. :shrug:

TBH I don't have an issue with what they've done. I really wasn't expecting much, and destroy ends on a rather hopeful note, specially with high enough EMS.

But what really makes me angry, is that the whole Refusal ending is one big :daisy: to all the people who said the starchild was out of tune with the story. It's like BW (specifically Casey Hudson and Mac Walters) are literally telling us that sure you got the right to be mad, but you know what, we don't give a damn.
The sheer amount of arrogance leaves me amazed.

I mean they were not being forced to do anything, they could've eaisly left it out like they ignored so many other things, but to put it in in it's current form is an affront.

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Originally Posted by rajpoot

TBH I don't have an issue with what they've done. I really wasn't expecting much, and destroy ends on a rather hopeful note, specially with high enough EMS.

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I'm in agreement. I was just somehow expecting a bit more exposition. There's a hell of a lot less implied and much more shown which is great. They also caved a bit in the bleakness of the ending which I understand but don't really agree with.

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I sorta liked the idea that in order to build a civilization free of Reaper influence and the cycle, the one you currently had would need to be destroyed. But it is a rather harsh ending and I understand why they changed relays from being destroyed to "damaged but repairable." The change to the normandy's fate was also expected.

For those hoping for a full re-write though, this is gonna be a huge disappointment. I'm bracing for the next wave of internet backlash.

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But what really makes me angry, is that the whole Refusal ending is one big to all the people who said the starchild was out of tune with the story. It's like BW (specifically Casey Hudson and Mac Walters) are literally telling us that sure you got a right to be mad, but you know what, we don't give a damn.
The sheer amount of arrogance leaves me amazed.

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Well it's more so "end it our way or not at all" because who in their right mind is going to pick Refuse? That's an even darker ending than what the original ending implied. If language rules here we much more relaxed i'd have a few names to call the bioware writers - but i suppose i'll have to settle for pretentious, after seeing Refuse. :laugh4: Goodness, what a laugh.

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Originally Posted by Monk

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I sorta liked the idea that in order to build a civilization free of Reaper influence and the cycle, the one you currently had would need to be destroyed. But it is a rather harsh ending and I understand why they changed relays from being destroyed to "damaged but repairable." The change to the normandy's fate was also expected.

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From what they've said I don't think the writers intended that - I think they just expected you to assume everybody pooled their knowledge and built new relays, which is not beyond the pale but is rather a tool order before everyone over Earth starves.

The refusal ending would not be so bad if it was in in the beginning, adding it now makes no sense though.

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In control one of the things "Shepard" references with those who sacrificed is apparently his own helmet, which is in the same pile of rubble as sheppard is shown covered in at the end of Destroy. Destroy is also the only one where Shepard's name isn't added to the wall, by the looks of it. So they STILL haven't explained that and the whole thing could STILL be a dream.

BIOWARE are obviously finished as an RPG studio, having been aquired by EA expect them to be wound down in five years or less. It's a shame.

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In control one of the things "Shepard" references with those who sacrificed is apparently his own helmet, which is in the same pile of rubble as sheppard is shown covered in at the end of Destroy. Destroy is also the only one where Shepard's name isn't added to the wall, by the looks of it. So they STILL haven't explained that and the whole thing could STILL be a dream.

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Weird, his name gets added to the wall in this destroy ending.

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

Weird, his name gets added to the wall in this destroy ending.

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No, it doesn't.

Watch it again. When Garrus does it he actually puts it on the wall and then changes his mind.

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

Weird, his name gets added to the wall in this destroy ending.

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I think that varies from LI to LI.
With best EMS and destroy, LIs supposedly hesitate before placing the name on the wall. Someone on the BSN said Liara actually does not place it on the wall at all.

You guys might wanna spoiler tag your posts. At least for the next day or so until everyone has a chance to go into this, or spoil themselves in other ways. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by rajpoot

I think that varies from LI to LI.
With best EMS and destroy, LIs supposedly hesitate before placing the name on the wall. Someone on the BSN said Liara actually does not place it on the wall at all.

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She doesn't do it in the one he linked, leastwise it isn't shown.

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Ok I just finished watching all 4 endings.

First, another screw you to Bioware for rejection.

Second, synthesis is portrayed as the best option yet again, even though all the organics seemed to have turned into Pretty-Borg (Porg?) and the synthetics don't seem to have changed. Kinda weird.

Third, the green patterns on the character models, it seems to imply that the clothes organics were wearing are now fused to their bodies, unless one of the effects of synthesis was to fuse cotton with nylon, the citadel fashion catalogs are going to become obsolete.

Fourth. I like the destroy ending, hopeful future, rebuilding the relays, Shepard is likely alive, All that jazz. It's a huge upgrade to the previous ones

Fifth. Control. Cyber Shepard: Awesome. Rather cold,though. seems somewhat bleak, in an intentional sense this time unlike Pre-DLC.

PVC: You are right, my mistake.

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

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Ok I just finished watching all 4 endings.

First, another screw you to Bioware for rejection.

Second, synthesis is portrayed as the best option yet again, even though all the organics seemed to have turned into Pretty-Borg (Porg?) and the synthetics don't seem to have changed. Kinda weird.

Third, the green patterns on the character models, it seems to imply that the clothes organics were wearing are now fused to their bodies, unless one of the effects of synthesis was to fuse cotton with nylon, the citadel fashion catalogs are going to become obsolete.

Fourth. I like the destroy ending, hopeful future, rebuilding the relays, Shepard is likely alive, All that jazz. It's a huge upgrade to the previous ones

Fifth. Control. Cyber Shepard: Awesome. Rather cold,though. seems somewhat bleak, in an intentional sense this time unlike Pre-DLC.

PVC: You are right, my mistake.

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Synthesis still makes no sense, Control and Destroy now make sense.

With Control, listen to the music and the narration - good intentions from the Reapers, heard that before?

Remember, all the narrators are biased.

Edit: Overall still sucks though.

What I wanted was:

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Marines pull Shepard out of the rubble right at the end "he's alive", and not to destroy the Geth etc.

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

What I wanted was:

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Marines pull Shepard out of the rubble right at the end "he's alive", and not to destroy the Geth etc.

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:yes:
One perfect ending. Even the darkest mythological stories had some of those. Odyssey springs to mind.
Guess it was just too much in conflict with their artistic integrity.

My faith in Bioware has been reaffirmed!

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The Cupcakes ending was a thing of beauty to behold! First it started out with the child talking smack to Shepard, which got my blood boiling until she hacked into the Citadel VI system and reprogrammed her "This is my favorite store on the Citadel" line to broadcast everywhere in the known galaxy, causing mass panic and chaos in the Reaper forces. INGENIOUS! She didn't even need to blow up the Citadel or the Mass Relays either. Once the battle was all said and done, Shepard was given a seat on the Council, and a Big Ben-sized statue on every race's homeworld with the words "I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite homeworld in the galaxy!" inscribed in the plaque. Finally, the big moment arrived: CAPTAIN Shepard! That's right, the girl who saved the galaxy thrice before finally got her due promotion. In the after party, she, along with an unmasked (and clearly visible) Tali and a re-built Legion reinvent the Lazarus vector to bring back Mordin, and the four of them tour the galaxy in the broken husk of Harbringer, making pit stops to punch random reporters.
It truly was the most magical moment in gaming.

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:daisy: YOU, BIOWARE/EA

@Kekvit Irae
Welcome to the fold. :laugh3: