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Ok. So if white_eyes is maven and defeatist, then he would leave the ship unless he was unable too. Are there nights when you can't leave the ship due to storm etc?
*Walks onto the deck rather drunkenly*
Yarrrrrr, that was a nice bottle of rum, I wonder where I can find some more...
Say, are there more people being voted? Lemme see the cases against them...
*Glances at the moldy piece of parchment*
Hmm... White Eyes is being accused because he backed out of a protection group, and then a SK started to kill? A bit too convenient perhaps, but not conclusive... Pizza Dude is also being far too serious... To be honest, I would be quite annoyed if the moment I backed out of a group, something happens, and I get suspected by the rest of you. (pever scandal anyone?) But his defeatist attitude is quite disturbing.
Hmmm... what about this Very Super Market person? Did he participate in the attempted kill against our Quartermaster? Is the attack against our QM considered suspicious? Judging by your votes, you guys do not seem to think that - does that mean further vigilante actions will not occur in the future against the Quartermaster or any of the other esteemed officers aboard?
Then there are the "lurkers", lurking in their cabins doing who knows what... Hey, why is my name on the list!?!?!?!?
Oh right. Unvote: shlin28
Hmm... who should I vote for? I do not think WE:D is guilty, and because there are no other suspects and my mind is too addled by rum to think properly, I shall be be a true pirate and challenge a certain artificial intelligence.
Vote: AI_Unit
Vote for me will ya? Watch out for my cutlass you silver mechanical...thing!!!
It looks REALLY bad....If I saw another townie who looked as guilty as I am....I would lynch them without a second thought....MY only hope was if ATPG blocked or had someone investigate me last night(To see that I was telling the truth about doing nothing)....or if someone else did:idea2:
My backing out of the group couldn't have had worse timing...:no:
I think it's pretty clear W_E isn't a killer. Lynching him is a waste. We can roleblock him tonight.
ATPG, going after W_E is not helpful. This isn't going to be Capo, where people were killed for being unhelpful.
CR
I could buy that he is a secret role... Except he waits until now to suggest such a thing, and that's after doing everything in the book to harm his own credibility. If he were some powerful secret pro-town role, then why would he shoot himself in the foot, then the other foot, and then finally in the head? You know, when I have a powerful pro-town role that might be critical for our collective survival, I usually don't do a series of things almost guaranteed to get me killed, for no apparent reason. The way White_Eyes is playing, if we are to consider him a decent player which I do, suggests that he doesn't have a valuable secret role. Instead, that he is in fact frustrated or not really caring about the outcome. Which would seem to suggest the psychology of a man who lost all his teammates really early.
However, I'll give White_Eyes credit enough that he could be doing this for other reasons. I am just at a loss as to why. I can't really follow the line of thought at all. Everything suggests that something terrible happened which required his full attention, abruptly, and then he seemed to interpret his situation as being doomed. Enough so that he's almost eager to make it happen.
It doesn't match what I would expect from a British special officer or lieutenant. That much I'll warrant. However, the rest of it suggests he's at best unfocused on a town victory, and a bit too paranoid and secretive for an average able seaman. It shouldn't be too hard to say "oh yes I did vigilante actions last night" or "I was protecting someone who doesn't trust you" or what have you. Of course he's already denied both those options privately. The empty void that remains is... what was he doing, or not doing, and why wasn't he doing it?
If he believed for example I was dragging the town into the gutter, he might have joined Sasaki's vig squad. But that's not even his explanation either. I find it difficult to come up with a reason for his actions that reflects favorably on him.
I'm not holding my breath.Quote:
does that mean further vigilante actions will not occur in the future against the Quartermaster or any of the other esteemed officers aboard?
:shrug:Quote:
I think it's pretty clear W_E isn't a killer. Lynching him is a waste. We can roleblock him tonight.
ATPG, going after W_E is not helpful. This isn't going to be Capo, where people were killed for being unhelpful.
CR
I didn't call for a vig kill on him and I'm not voting for him. All I wanted was an answer to the question: Why did White_Eyes decide not to protect someone one night, just for the heck of it, without explanation? And if he did in fact do something, what was it?
I believe he could stand a little scrutiny. My vote is on Ricera10, someone who could use far more scrutiny.
:laugh4: Just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
I hope White Eyes isn't the long tale killer. If he killed me after all we went through in Capo, we're going to have a problem. :furious3: Also, ATPG, if you thought WE was a serial killer, why didn't you roleblock him last night?
Well...it's true:laugh4:
And if Sasaki is willing to explain...I was not in his group and you know that:inquisitive:
I was contacted to help but he said he had someone else to help with it..:shrug:
Unvote W_E;
Vote: shlin28
auto-vote followed by riposte voting....not seeing a lot of analysis there, shlin.
Unvote White_eyes:D; Vote shlin28
Sorry for the previous edit, I malfed the code and edited it immediately as is my usual wont.
vote: Abstain.
See you crackpots on Sunday.
Oops I forgot to bold... :smash:
vote: Abstain
Leaving for the beach and don't have time to go over this.
Hmm. I'll wait for word from White Eyes.
And news from our investigators.
CR
Ok, I am....A townie:juggle2:
Sorry for confusing you all like that....(I myself am becoming confused:dizzy2:)
All I was trying to say(Before Beskar pointed out that, The last Maven crewmen can kill solo which I didn't know about) was that there must be a secret SK role but that was blown out of the water:sweatdrop:
:inquisitive:
You certainly seemed to suggest you had a non-townie role.
CR
Perhaps I went to overboard with the SK thing??:dizzy2:
I am not lying in any case.....but with all that *suggesting* I did....I don't think you would believe me...:sweatdrop:
You're probably not an SK. And we have ways of dealing with people in the night.
So let's look at other targets for now.
CR
I for one would love to hear from AVSM
He's suspected of being the 4th vig killer in Sassaki's group and also others claimed he was protecting ACIN last night. Sassaki can clear this up by revealing the 4th vigilante.
Vote: Abstain
Vote: Abstain for now, need to get ready for work. Will check back before end of round to make my final decision.
Alright, may as well wait for the fourth member of that Vig group to come forward.
Vote: abstain in case I am not able to get back on to change it. :yes:
Vote: Mutiny
Sorry, but I'm tired of the current administration and their BS tactics. Either CR can demote both Louis and ATPG, or I'm gonna keep my vote on him.
Tired of two innocent townies having positions? You prefering British officers there instead?
Ok, first (not targeting you Yaro): could people please stop with the friggen. "I want to hear from..." "why haven't we heard from..." I live in a different time zone then most of you and are at school the majority of my day.
Yes, I got miotas, AVSM and Subo to protect me. I had my suspicions. That's what we were all doing.
Why should they protect you?
No, I am tired of the misuse of powers by our First Mate, and I do not trust the Quartermaster completely- it has been made public that he is completely susceptible to conversion, and given his suspicious actions in the thread this very phase regarding a lead that I consider very clear in the write-up, I would not be surprised if he was converted before he was placed in the position.
Also, I find it interesting that you say only two innocent townies have positions. Do you really mean to tell me that our Captain has not been investigated yet? If he hasn't been confirmed innocent, should we trust him with such a position?
Because I went through Capo and no one said anything bad about me, I was a detective and I lasted all the way until the final week before the game ended. Then all of a sudden my name comes up in the thread and I am attacked. Then again. And I die at the very end of the game. So when I, coming home after working on my time consuming physics log in just to read and vote on who I think is guilty and get back to studying, suddenly see that someone had accused me of something, I didn't want to ignore what could be a sign for a mafia hit as I did before.
EDIT: If you are asking what the motivation is to protect a simple townie...then what I can say, their my Tavern social group buddies, we stick together against moderators and mafia of all kinds.
The person who killed you in capo was a word-triggered serial killer, not the mafia. After playing quite a few games I can say they don't usually announce who they are about to kill. However if you're getting protection from a group, in my mind at least you're getting 3 people to do something, so... carry on.
I didn't have anything else to say. But let me ask, who gave the trigger word? I doubt that any word I said had not been said a million times in the thread already.
EDIT: Disregard my first sentence. i thought carry on meant continue elaborating what you were talking about, not, ok you're clear, keep doin' what your doin'.
Sorry, I just don't have any idea whatsoever. So I'll have to go with Vote: Abstain so far. I'll change my vote if something comes up. If I'm able, because I really gotta go to bed now and I didn't entirely get when this round will end. :shrug:
Vote: Mutiny
Vote: Shlin
HoS: all those above me voting abstain
Why mutiny? Because I'm a little tired of these pro town networks, who clear themselves and lead the town around. The generic townie is just told they are cleared. I don't doubt that they are most likely townies, but after a capo game where it happened, and my bad memories of Netherworld, I wholeheartedly wish for the old "You can't reveal in private, only in thread" rule.
Don't forget Midgard Saga II. What an embarrassing showing for the town that was. :shame:
Vote: Subotan
Seeing your posts makes me think back to the time where Ichigo slipped under the radar in Swords of the Moon (10th Anniversary Game) and wasn't suspected, with the same style.
Responding to off point inquiries, and you asking suspicious questions.
Though I'm kinda busy studying and doing a skim read, these two posts caught my attention.
Firstly, why do you want to know who this "soldier man" is, Reenk has posted another quotation (from another person I presume) under the alias "Rudolph" if memory serves. Its probably just a means of preserving the identity of that person.
Secondly, why would you inquire who Whiteeyes left his treasure to, it is of no consequence to you isn't it?
Its a very curious point, why is his treasure a point of contention with you. Are you a maven who is desperate for MORE treasure? So that you can leave the ship hurriedly and hopefully not get flogged by your captain? :inquisitive:
Vote: pevergreen
i am sorry i do not trust him
Less than 2 hours 'til sundown, and no leads - just a couple of gut feelings.
So, I'll play the cards revealed on the table (i.e. in this thread), and
vote: Sasaki Kojiro
for ring-leading kill teams of questionable motive, against a ship's officer. If anyone has a better suspect, I'm listening.
Vote:Abstain
Not a good night, I'm pretty behind on things right now.
Sorry guys :/
The round doesn't end in 1 hour and 40 minutes, it ends in 13 hours and 40 minutes. :yes:
vote pevergreen
:heart::heart::iloveyou::iloveyou:note the lower case p
Based on what I have seen I say Vote:pevergreen for the moment. I have to go to bed early and take a test tomorrow morning, so sorry if someone proves he is confirmed townie, I guess I will just be a lone vote if I don't get home in time to read and change it.
Oh, and FoS at Death is Yonder because I am paranoid enough to think that you have unknown motive for getting rid of one of my protectors, especially since your argument is that Subo reminds you of Ichigo in a past mafia game and that he is asking questions.
I'll go along with that.
unvote, vote: pevergreen
A mutinous soul gets a deserving end.
Eh?
Oh your protector? *reads back quickly*
This is what I get for skim reading :sweatdrop:
The argument is that he's asking unrelated questions... to look active yet not properly contributing.
Ahh.. nevermind.
Unvote;
Vote: Abstain
I'll read up more later, back to hitting the books :book:
Vote:pevergreen He's willing to mutiny during the day, he may be killing townies at night.
Also, FOS:Chaotix for voting to mutiny.
Someone with more time and determination than me should look through these bandwagons and find the mafia hiding under them.
I get yer frustration, mister Chaotix. I sincerely do.
Hold off on that for just a little bit. All I ask. I was on the outside looking in, now I am not, and from where I was and where I am now, I believe truly that Louis and CR are doing their best. What's holding us back is a lack of team cohesion on all levels. Not just administratively.
The civil war we've been having is pointless and needs to stop.
'mkay.
Unvote: Mutiny
Now let's stop this bandwagon on pevergreen and go for a better target. pever is, in all likelihood, still a townie. The mafia are definitely too afraid to mutiny and draw attention to themselves.
Possibly.
Listen, I really do think Ricera10 is worth some pressure votes. He doesn't have that many posts all game, but if you look at them in sequence, it looks awfully fishy. And given the fact I can't find even one person who claims to know what he's been up to at night, he really is suspicious.
unvote, vote: Ricera10
We know a lot about many of the other players, but not this person. And none have stepped forward since I started asking about him.
Someone really wants to get rid of me.
Unvote: Mutiny (if possible)
I'm being voted because I'm the second to mutiny. I'm not the one who started it, I further it along (wooh 2 votes out of how many needed?)
This happened earlier as well, I'm just about ready to wash my hands of it.
ATPG, why do you plan multiple vig actions tonight and not a lynch on one of them today?
I am not calling for a bandwagon on Ricera10. Please read his posts and consider that I can't find a single person to vouch for him. No more blind faith votes; consider and judge for yourselves.
I can't always get what I want. And that includes the retaliatory vigilante strikes. I'm not the Captain, and even I agree that this bickering needs to end. Some things are worth more than the satisfaction of hitting back.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Vote: ricera.
You may consider yourself... under pressure.
Vote: Chaotix
Deadline vote! :beam:
Ah, the deadline is 9 or so hours. Woops, misread.
I didn't really see why you were being lynched before this post, but here is where I decided to vote for you.
Except that he is pro-town and he is doing a lot of organising... so he is helping the town...
Vote: White Eyes
I have a really bad chesty cough thing today so I really don't feel like playing Mafia at the moment... don't expect me to do anything at all.
This is the last post I can make before the end of the deadline.
Unvote:pevergreen; Vote: White Eyes
CA's quote also made me suspicious. Hope I made a good choice.
Unvote: White_Eyes
Vote: Pevergreen
I am not too sure about the pever bandwagon :shrug:
what I do agree with however is.... Vote: Sasaki I can not believe we are just letting him skate by.....
Hmmm...it has been pointed out to me that I misspelled pevergreen's name. To that insult, I can not add the injury of lynching him.
Unvote: pevergreen
Vote: Ricera
Meh. Unbolded. Can't edit.
So then:
Unvote: pevergreen
Vote: Ricera
I think it would be great one day if pever was a serial killer that killed people who capitalised the first letter of his nick....
Games a fascinating read... don't think pever's guilty... unsure what substances WE is abusing... Intrested to know what Ricera's been up to...
You soggy maggots! Can't even keep a tally going fer yer Captain. Worthless, every one of ye!
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Originally Posted by Tally
unvote:White_Eyes:D
vote:Ricera10
White_Eyes:D may be telling the truth but Ricera10 hasn't spoken up to defend himself so...
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Ricera10: 5 (Askthepizzaguy, Chaotix, Joooray, Louis, A1_Unit)
White_Eyes: 4 (Beskar, WhiteEyes, CountArach, ACIN)
Shlin28: 3 (Sasaki, Seamus, pevergreen)
pevergreen: 3 (Centurion1, Yaropolk, slashandburn)
Sasaki: 2 (Kukrikhan, CDF)
Yaropolk: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Chaotix: 1 (Psychonaut)
A1: 1 (shlin28)
Abstain: Double A, SSN, Diana, Joooray, split, Death is Yonder
Especially interesting is that he's read two messages from me over the past few days and ignored them totally, after claiming while voting for Jolt that he "trusts pizzaguy". That means he doesn't really trust pizzaguy, and was just looking for a quick bandwagon vote. He was a lot more active and talkative in Capo and he isn't inactive right now, he just joined another game. All unusual behavior for him.
Let's see what happens with a tie.
Vote: White_Eyes:D
White_Eyes either kills himself intentionally or saves himself from death. What will happen? Is his defeatism all WIFOM? Or does he really not give a flying moose? Tune in next week for another exciting episode of:
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Unvote: Abstain; Vote: Pervegrun
Unvote:White_eyes:D Vote:Ricera10 I don't trust TinCows vote:inquisitive:....plus after the bell voting could finish me:juggle2:
Unvote: sasaki Vote: White_eyes:D
just five or so minutes ago you said you were not going to change your vote :inquisitive:
15 minutes remaining.
Host's tally:
ricera: 6
WE: 5
GAH! he is going to get away with it! :wall:
10:40 was the time limit....I checked.....and why not? Ricera10 could be guilty.....but somehow I doubt it:no: but I am not leaving it up to him...:juggle2:
unvote: Ricera10
Because White_Eyes obviously does care after all if he lives or dies. Let's put a smile on that face.
Do we both die if its a tie?:juggle2: