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it is the school fault, not the students.
If the girl wanted to come with her female friend, that would be allowed, but since she is a lesbian, we can't bring her female friend.
What imbeciles, no one can condone the school for what they did and anyone who does should be shipped back to 69 B.C and learn a thing or two from the Romans.
This is one from California - http://www.people.com/people/article...281762,00.html Now that is an interesting one.
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Rhyfelwyr
But at the same time there's no need for the leftist moral outrage, she could just suck it up and respect peoples traditions, the world doesn't have to change just for her.
The world also doesnt need to stay the same for you
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Mean-spirited indeed. I wholy agree with Ser. Who is getting hurt here if they allow her to go? No one, maybe a few parents get uneasy, but this isn't their event so who cares about them. For me the Dalai Lama says it best:
"If someone comes to me and asks whether homosexuality is okay or not, I will ask, 'What is your companion's opinion?' If you both agree, then I think I would say, 'if two males or two females voluntarily agree to have mutual satisfaction without further implication of harming others, then it is okay.'"
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PanzerJaeger
What cowards.
If the school administration felt the need to take a stand on sexual orientation - which is not at all their place - they should have disallowed the girl to attend and dealt with the lawsuits and backlash. That would have at least been a principled stand.
But to turn it back around on the 16 year old girl by canceling the prom altogether is just pathetic. It reeks of immaturity and spite. She is going to be tortured for this. :shame:
Fricke v. Lynch. They probably got legal advice to simply cancel the event, rather than either approve or deny McMillan's request. So then the issue becomes, instead of McMillan's Freedom of Speech rights, the "rights" of students to even have a school-sanctioned and -sponsored Prom. Some smart lawyer might (probably will) take up the case, pointing to other school events and extracurricular activities (football teams, debate clubs, etc) getting permission to use school-, that is: taxpayer-owned, facilities. Net result 2 years down the road?
No extracurricular activities at all. Or
membership in activities open to all.
Public education. What a riot.
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KukriKhan
Fricke v. Lynch. They probably got legal advice to simply cancel the event, rather than either approve or deny McMillan's request. So then the issue becomes, instead of McMillan's Freedom of Speech rights, the "rights" of students to even have a
school-sanctioned and -sponsored Prom. Some smart lawyer might (probably will) take up the case, pointing to other school events and extracurricular activities (football teams, debate clubs, etc) getting permission to use school-, that is: taxpayer-owned, facilities. Net result 2 years down the road?
No extracurricular activities at all. Or
membership in activities open to all.
Public education. What a riot.
This is weird. Why should the school pay for prom? Perhaps it's because we live in different cultures but this sounds ridiculous.
In here school gives us our diplomas and that's practically it. If students want a "prom" they will pay for it themselves and usually they don't have it in school territory.
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Frags, frags, frags. :no:
Homophobia is sooo Sudan or Afghanistan.
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PanzerJaeger
What cowards.
If the school administration felt the need to take a stand on sexual orientation - which is not at all their place - they should have disallowed the girl to attend and dealt with the lawsuits and backlash. That would have at least been a principled stand.
But to turn it back around on the 16 year old girl by canceling the prom altogether is just pathetic. It reeks of immaturity and spite. She is going to be tortured for this. :shame:
Perfectly summed up.
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Louis VI the Fat
Frags, frags, frags. :no:
Homophobia is sooo Sudan or Afghanistan.
And Mississipi apparently, that's not the point.
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Ibn-Khaldun
This is weird. Why should the school pay for prom? Perhaps it's because we live in different cultures but this sounds ridiculous.
In here school gives us our diplomas and that's practically it. If students want a "prom" they will pay for it themselves and usually they don't have it in school territory.
Good point. This wiki article looks at Proms and prom-type events in other countries. Everything from state-paid to privately-sponsored. Over here the hundreds of thousands of School Districts (roughly equivalent to a County) set their own standards and policies. Most derive their funding from a combination of local Property Taxes, AND (this is a big "and") subsidies from State and Federal Governments. Those subsidies entitle those gov'ts to dictate policy and standards to the districts and schools.
To me, THAT is the weird part: distant politicians and technocrats in Washington DC and Jackson MS telling a smallish Mississippi school what they can and can't allow. But it sets the stage for Federal Court cases like Fricke v. Lynch; if you take the Fed or State dollar, you dance to their tune.
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KukriKhan
distant politicians and technocrats in Washington DC and Jackson MS telling a smallish Mississippi school what they can and can't allow. But it sets the stage for Federal Court cases like Fricke v. Lynch; if you take the Fed or State dollar, you dance to their tune.
Yeah, what's next eh? Washington telling some Mississippi school to desegragate?
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Touche', as they say in Paraguay. :)
Next thing you know they'll be giving children the vote.
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Fragony
Maybe prom-night was important to the other kids, but screw others of course there are more important things, like her for example. Some people just like traditions get over it, shrug it of. The people running the schools are idiots, but she is a provocateur.
Traditions...like wearing a burqa? I guess if you daughter was going to a mostly muslim school you'd say she should wear one to respect their traditions...no need to provoke.
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Stupid decision by the school. Who was she going to harm?
CR
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What I'm not getting is why she apparently needed to ask for permission. Maybe prom works differently down south, but up here, we just sorta came with whoever. Not like we sent a letter of intent as to who our date was to the admin.
Either way, that was just a spiteful move to cancel prom.
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Yaseikhaan
What I'm not getting is why she apparently needed to ask for permission. Maybe prom works differently down south, but up here, we just sorta came with whoever. Not like we sent a letter of intent as to who our date was to the admin.
Either way, that was just a spiteful move to cancel prom.
Probably some form of registration.
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johnhughthom
Umm, twas a joke. Electing a prom "queen" with gay men might get interesting.
I knew I'd get lucky. :jumping:
Last year, students at Fairfax Senior High School in Los Angeles elected gay senior Sergio Garcia as prom queen."That was news, even in Los Angeles,"
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Louis VI the Fat
I
knew I'd get lucky. :jumping:
Last year, students at Fairfax Senior High School in Los Angeles elected gay senior Sergio Garcia as
prom queen."That was news, even in Los Angeles,"
I posted that, Louis, bad boy.
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Finally, the proof I have been looking for that nobody reads Beskar's posts.
:clown:
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johnhughthom
Finally, the proof I have been looking for that nobody reads Beskar's posts.
Who or what is this "Beskar" you're talking about?
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johnhughthom
Finally, the proof I have been looking for that nobody reads Beskar's posts.
Nooo!!
I've got Beskar's post on RSS feed. They're send directly to my mobile phone, that I never waste a minute more of my life ignorant of yet another great new insight by Bessy.
Alas though, Beskar edited in his prom queen after I had already read the post, thereby nastily Lemuring me. Such are the limits of modern technology.
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And so we have it: now Lemur is not only a proper noun, it is also a regular noun AND a verb.
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Yet again the French totally misinterpret an attempt at humour. I mean, if a Norwegian got it...
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Louis VI the Fat
Yeah, what's next eh? Washington telling some Mississippi school to desegragate?
Segragation now, Segragation tamarwa, segragation forever
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Interesting anecdote; back around the year 2000, my high school elected a lesbian as prom king as a joke. The school, which is in a somewhat rural and conservative area, didn't cancel prom - though after that year they required kings to be male and queens to be female.
Bout time those LA hicks caught up. ~;p
CR
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Louis VI the Fat
Yeah, what's next eh? Washington telling some Mississippi school to desegragate?
Been there, done that. Sorta...
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Panzer's Article
Earlier this month, on the Friday night of the white prom, Kera Nobles, a senior who is black, and six of her black classmates drove over to the local community center where it was being held...
After the last couple were announced... Kera and her friends piled into a nearby KFC to eat...
The seven teenagers — a mix of girls and boys — slowly worked their way through two buckets of fried chicken. They cracked jokes about the white people’s prom
lmao
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johnhughthom
Yet again the French totally misinterpret an attempt at humour. I mean, if a Norwegian got it...
I got the joke. HoreTore made the obvious follow-up already, so I had to come up with something more elaborate.
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Louis VI the Fat
Frags, frags, frags. :no:
Homophobia is sooo Sudan or Afghanistan.
HAHAHAHAH! CLASSIC FRAG!
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That schools seems very childish, although I am wondering why she announced her date before hand. At our school formal a homosexual girl arrived wearing a suit with and her girlfriend. She didn't announce it before hand though, she just turned up, she even got up in front of all the students and parents and shook hands with the principal when she got her certificate. Nothing imposing about it at all, as far as I know no one was infected with homosexuality.
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a completely inoffensive name
HAHAHAHAH! CLASSIC FRAG!
Would have been had I sided with the school, but I did't.
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Rhyfelwyr
she could just suck it up and respect peoples traditions, the world doesn't have to change just for her.
What's that?