*Sigh* The Dating Scene

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nowake

Mmmno, I wouldn't go that far in what you're concerned.

I still believe you're just not addressing the right issue i.e. those people have not become dysfunctional because of their hedonism, but rather due to their IQ, education and values, or lack thereof, which in turn led them to a depraved life, using sex to assuage their existential anxieties.
And I'd side with you on the somewhat disgusting side of clubbing for sex. Personally, I can't help connecting my visits to certain clubs with strolls to the Zoo.

---

You have a solid point about how they got to that point. However, the activity itself I feel, is like a feedback loop that perpetuates such dysfunction because it is a risky path towards self discovery and character building. There are many people who do come from affluent backgrounds, with proper (more or less) schooling and a perfectly fine IQ who get into the clubbing scene and degenerate as a person. You are right about the lifestyle not actively causing anyone psychological problems, but I would say that it does have the potential to accelerate such problems.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Fragony

Dear diary, today I once again didn't read every word ACIN shared with the world, I know it's wrong because it's so very very important and deep down I know I should care

Going to bed without tea

---

For someone wondering if he is depressed, you still got quite a fire underneath you Frag. <3 Btw, I read everything you say.....

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Psychonaut

ACIN. I wouldn't say casual sex is meaningless, in fact I wouldn't say it is any less meaningless than anything in life. The actual act of casual sex, like the actual act of a wedding, is by itself entirely meaningless. However, if you take into account the principles and emotions it carries with it, it does however gain meaning. It is the embodiment of rebellion, freedom and passion. In the same way that a wedding embodies fidelity and commitment.

---

When has casual sex embodied rebellion and freedom and passion? You are harping back to the 1960s and 1970s, when merely talking about such things was a social error in most situations. Sex since the 1980s is ubiquitous and is the farthest thing from rebellion, freedom and passion now. It's now a tool for marketing, shoved in our faces everyday, saturated in our culture. It's dull. It is the status quo for today's society, not the counterculture. Look at the shows that revolve around sex and partying. When do the characters do anything but sex and partying (and drama)? Such freedom they enjoy! The freedom to glorify never reading a book or shutting up for a day. In the 1960s, free love not free sex was the catchphrase.

Quote:

---

Casual sex is not about seeking some form of permanence or transcendence. It is merely aimed at the excitement and experience of the moment. As it goes, death is coming, why not get the maximum quantity out of one life? In the end isn't it all meaningful in our minds and simultaneously meaningless, an echo, in a hollow universe?

---

So casual sex is rebellious but isn't about transcending the culture you are rebelling against? So it's like I said, hollow and pointless?

We are privileged to have these lives. To have these thoughts. To have the capacity to communicate about abstract ideas and have this conversation in the first place. And instead of challenging ourselves to find out who we really are, instead of taking this opportunity we have to learn before our short time is over, we bask ourselves in primal feelings and actions and declare it to be on the same level as anything else because, hey, nothing means anything right?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

For someone wondering if he is depressed, you still got quite a fire underneath you Frag.

---

Oh that, didn't last

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Fragony

Yeahyeah but that was awesome Psychonaut, you should do screenwriting. Imagine text in scene where guy picks up stupid girl

---

Hey, what can I say, I like my girls like I like my prog rock. Slow.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

And instead of challenging ourselves to find out who we really are, instead of taking this opportunity we have to learn before our short time is over, we bask ourselves in primal feelings and actions and declare it to be on the same level as anything else because, hey, nothing means anything right?

---

You got it buddeh! :thumbsup:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Psychonaut

It is the embodiment of rebellion, freedom and passion.

---

First one, makes you sound like a troublesome teenager.

Second one, sorry, already reserved for cars and airplanes.

Third one, well, it's casual, artists often have passion, but not the casual ones. :dizzy2: Don't confuse passion and lust.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

What if we have a passion for lust?

---

There are special clubs for that, but when you're passionate about something, how is it casual? ~;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

Sex without love is pointless. Portraying the act of hooking up as "the hunt" dehumanizes women.

-gets off soapbox-

---

I agree entirely.

The point of sex is to get off (apart from the whole baby making thing). In my opinion, it does not have to go beyond that to be a meaningful experience. Wrapping it in unnecessary emotional layers is a choice, but not an objectionably better choice.

1. Fragony delivers

2, I agree with Rythmic

well, there is the option of become a guy like me: some cantankerous guy who only cares about making money and doing his "duty" to society and family, in the process showing a complete disregard for the importance of building any relationship not immediately applicable to your work (there are exceptions here, but they're all men, since women are a distraction, and you'll be too busy for them anyways).

of course, I do not recommend this option, because it sucks, and people hate you when you take it. especially if you live in America, where apparently being a teenager doesn't end until you are 25...possibly even never in about 20% of the population of this generation. explains why I get along better with older people...

yes, that's what I've been doing while I was rarely posting lately; growing more cynical than ever...

We are here on earth to muck about. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

Told a girl today "It's not you, it's me" and she laughed at me lol. Not the response I expected!

---

That line is only the tiniest bit overused. At least you gave her a better explenation than just that?
Or it could be that she was also thinking of calling it a day and was relieved.