Re: Head of Muslim counsel offers himself as hostage
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Originally Posted by Soulforged
Oh yes but you stated that phylosophy was a matter of faith (I disagree) that will lead me to believe that your interpretation of clear words could be distorted and turned by the magic of faith.
You might want to check out how the Nazi's distorted the philosophy of Nietzsche.
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But the Jews don't follow that part do they?
I am not Jewish - nor does the Jewish Religion have to follow the tenants of Christianity.
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Ok I'll not bother you then.
Is not a bother - just my opinion is different - Jesus by his presence changed a lot of the aspects of the Old Testiment. I have a problem understanding Christians who preach the Old Testiment scripture - but fail to recongize where the New Testiment changed some of that same scripture.
Re: Head of Muslim counsel offers himself as hostage
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Originally Posted by Redleg
You might want to check out how the Nazi's distorted the philosophy of Nietzsche.
That was for political purposes and only demonstrates how words can be turned.
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I am not Jewish - nor does the Jewish Religion have to follow the tenants of Christianity.
Well that's exactly what I said.
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Is not a bother - just my opinion is different - Jesus by his presence changed a lot of the aspects of the Old Testiment. I have a problem understanding Christians who preach the Old Testiment scripture - but fail to recongize where the New Testiment changed some of that same scripture.
As I see it, Jesus had a revolutionary line of thoughts. He preached charity, he said that God was in all of us -thus putting all man in an horizontal relationship- (or was it an interpretation of the Church?), he eated with his fellow man and treated him equally and encouraged others through no-violence, but example, to do the same. However he didn't said anything about limit subjects, such as homosexuality or prostitution (because it appears that Magdalena was not a prostitute after all). Jesus did changed the mentality of the old jew society of castes and discrimination, but that was not enough, I think that his message was not well received and certain people distorted it for their own purpose. But even then that's not excuse for distorting clear words of the Bible, in the Old and the New testament, that are supposedly the word of God.
Re: Head of Muslim counsel offers himself as hostage
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Originally Posted by Soulforged
That was for political purposes and only demonstrates how words can be turned.
Bingo - give the man a ciger. You can apply the same logical to religion and how some only take portions of the message to fit what they want to believe.
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Well that's exactly what I said.
But it seems that as a christian you also want me to accept the tenants of the Jewish faith with your comments.
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As I see it, Jesus had a revolutionary line of thoughts. He preached charity, he said that God was in all of us -thus putting all man in an horizontal relationship- (or was it an interpretation of the Church?), he eated with his fellow man and treated him equally and encouraged others through no-violence, but example, to do the same. However he didn't said anything about limit subjects, such as homosexuality or prostitution (because it appears that Magdalena was not a prostitute after all). Jesus did changed the mentality of the old jew society of castes and discrimination, but that was not enough, I think that his message was not well received and certain people distorted it for their own purpose. But even then that's not excuse for distorting clear words of the Bible, in the Old and the New testament, that are supposedly the word of God.
I agree - one should not distort the words which are contained in the Bible for their own political purposes - either believe or not believe. Picking and chosing is not the way to be a Christian.
Re: Head of Muslim counsel offers himself as hostage
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Originally Posted by Redleg
Bingo - give the man a ciger. You can apply the same logical to religion and how some only take portions of the message to fit what they want to believe.
I know I was only pointing it out again to make it clear that it will not be good to your point.~D
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But it seems that as a christian you also want me to accept the tenants of the Jewish faith with your comments.
Not at all. I was discussing the jews, the jews take the Old Testament at the letter.
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I agree - one should not distort the words which are contained in the Bible for their own political purposes - either believe or not believe. Picking and chosing is not the way to be a Christian.
Oh but you didn't understand my possition. I'm actually saying that most christian choose the words they like from the absolute word of God. Libertarian christians usually take out the parts condemning homosexuality and sodomy, wich are in the New Testament of course, saying otherwise will be pointless because you can pick words from the Old Testament.
