Re: Why i hating religion
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Originally Posted by Weebeast
I think if believers can keep their faith to themselves all this bashing/hating wouldn't have happened. I got this "leave me alone, I leave you alone" policy. Believers always break it. The dissapointment in non-believers has thickened so now they attack in any given moment.
I was a believer once (I still am. I just threw out most things except the god part). I knew I didn't have to make other people do what I do to secure my position in heaven. It seems hard for most believers to realize that.
Yeah, but all believers get grouped together with the few who think that you can forcebly convert someone.
The fact is the athists i have met who have tryed to argue against me start talking about god first, its not me that starts it!
Also many who do convert others (not forcebly though only if someone is interested in converting) are not doing it to increase their standing with god but because they want to share the happyness that god has brought them.
Isn't that the whole idea after all that we are all forgiven, all we need to do is accept that forgivness
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I'm not talking about how religious people invite me to their special place in god's arm. I was actually talking about how religious people always tell me what to do and keep me away from the stuff that's viewed as wrong in their eye. You may not be one of them, but it's clear that the tolerance that you magnify isn't what I get from religious people in general. I appreciate that they wanna share happiness with me. There's fine line between sharing hapiness and being a ridiculously intolerant bigot. Considering all these religions are just 'faiths,' it angers people even more.
This is how the 'hate' originated.
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yeah, what i was trying to get across is also steryotypes
there are bigots, faithful or not, but when someone like myself who is very tolerant of anybody ond anyone really, it is annoying when then people steryotype religious people as stupid and naive, and i feel that nowadays being openly religious in my country is looked on as very odd and stupid in many parts
of cource you get non religious people having bibles shoved up their backsides and being pushed to be religious, and looking at it, nowadays is the opposite of the ancient times, but it applies to homosexuality, anything people should tolerate to a fair degree...
Re: Why i hating religion
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Originally Posted by Byzantine Mercenary
The fact is the athists i have met who have tryed to argue against me start talking about god first, its not me that starts it!
Christian friends of mine have similar experiences. Over at Sp!ked, Frank Furedi has another smart little essay in which he blames this obsessive religion-bashing on the lack of inner conviction of the critics themselves.
He also addresses some of the subtler points I touched on in my post, such as the increasing institutional and cultural irrelevance of Christianity. On the subject of the Chronicles of Narnia movie, he writes:
It is a sign of the times that even some of the people associated with the making of The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe self-consciously deny that the film has a Christian agenda. 'We believe we have not made a religious movie', said Dennis Rice, Disney's senior vice president of publicity.
The attempts to dissociate the film from any explicit Christian project are not only motivated by commercial thinking. Despite the claims of the anti-religious crusaders - especially in the US - that the Christian right is on the rise, in fact in cultural terms it is increasingly marginalised. Films with a Christian message find it difficult to convey a powerful sense of faith and meaning. Instead, religious values and beliefs tend to be transmitted through non-human anthropomorphic forms.
The attempt to endow even the behaviour of penguins with transcendental meaning - in the widely acclaimed March of the Penguins - is symptomatic of this theological illiteracy. The enthusiasm with which Christian organisations embraced March of the Penguins showed up their disorientation, if not desperation, rather than their aggressive confidence. After the penguin it is the turn of another animal - Aslan, the lion in the Narnia film - to serve as a symbol of innocence, sacrifice and resurrection. What beast will Christian filmmakers pick next?
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Re: Why i hate hating religion
CS Lewis was a great man and a staunch Athist during his early adult life, his conversion is interesting to me because he didn't want to be a christian but suddenly realised that there was a god. It is partly his experiences that make me wonder whether some of the current stuanch athists are fighting something other then some of the problems with organised religion.
Im sorry the christians that you have met are trying to control you, the fact is that this not what Jesus wanted us to do, as we all have logs in our eyes...
