Announcement:
:spain: The King of Spain announces that Great Britain and Spain have agreed to make peace.
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Announcement:
:spain: The King of Spain announces that Great Britain and Spain have agreed to make peace.
King Gustav IV Adolph requests a demonstration of this battle system, please.
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Me mug!
I can't be 100% certain at this moment but i think I'd be able to play Sweden... Or Denmark if that's an option.
edit again:
Heck... IS there a faction I could play as? I'd love to play if it's at all possible.
Curently there is the Holy Roman Empire, though if you want to play as someone more specific, or as someone else altogether, just ask. If someone wants to be Tuscany for example, then they can feel free to.
I didn't think as many people would be interested as this :wink:
What the heck, why not. If there is room I'll play. Give me someone easy, as this is my first interactive.
How the Battle System Works
Alright, here is a basic guide to the most complex, confusing, and (I like to think) best part of the interactive. The Battle system.
Alright, below is a battlescape. Two enemy armies have walked into the same region. For the sake of this example, we shall say it is Southern Saxony.
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/...apExample1.jpg
The map is a 28x14 Hex map, with each Hex coloured to match the terrain in that area. In this case:
White = Open plains/Farmland,etc, etc
Green = Hilly area
Light Blue = River
Brown = Bridge
Red = Town
The River is impassible, except at a Bridge. Bridges may be destroyed, by sending me a PM to do so, however not all the bridges on a map may bedestroyed during a battle.
Hills are not singular hills, rather they are an area of land of varying steepness, however all of it is suitable for defense.
Towns are just that. Small areas that are inhabitted by civilians (Who have probably run like hell as soon as they saw the armies). Note on the hills in the north, how two of them have both a green and a red part. This means that it is a hill with a town on it. This is a very, very valuable defensive position, as it gets the best of being high up and defensible.
I PM this map to both players, and they PM back where they want to deploy (I assign at top/bottom side to each player, depending on the route of approach).
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/...apExample3.jpg
As you can see, the Blue player (French) has 6 Corps, whereas the Austrian player has 4 Corps. The French player has deployed around two hill clusters, each with a town on it. In addition their V and VI Corps are deployed on the Eastern Flank, perhaps to try to effect a breakthrough, or to outflank the Austrian lines.
The Austrian player, on the other hand, has decided to take up defensive positions around the town on their Centre-left. In addition they have the IV Corps on their Eastern flank to try to defend their flanks, or destory the bridge if things get desperate.
Now the players PM to me where their Corps want to move. They have to send me three turns worth of orders for each Corps. This should be in the following format:
I Corps: Turn 1 - Force March Two South
Turn 2 - Force March One South and One South-West
Turn 3 - Hold
Remember, forced marching means you move two, however for the two next turns you are at a slightly lower morale.
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/...apExample2.jpg
After I have recieved both sets of orders (Hopefully withing 24 hours :wink:), I update the map. As you can see, the French have advanced towards the centre-left, yet have left the V Corps as a reserve. The Austrian player has taken up positions defending two bridges, and have deployed around another one, waiting for the French, hoping they can hold on.
Once two Corps have reached the same place, a battle is fought. I am still working the kinks out of this, but suffice to say that you will not know exactly how things work. Just be advised that the more veteran your men, and the better your General in command of that Corps, the better your chances of winning.
I have decided that two Corps of the same side may join the same tile ONLY WHEN A BATTLE IS ALREADY BEING FOUGHT. So, if a battle lasts more than one day (nt uncommon at these times), you can move reinforcements in. However, the catch comes in you having to anticipate where the battles will be fought.
Alright, I am sure there will be MANY questions, so fire away.
Alright, all the nations are filled. If you still want to join, then feel free to suggest a nation I missed (On the map).
I placed Caius as Holy Roman Empire, and I placed BlackAxe as Tuscany.
Franconius has said that GMM can play Denmark. This leaves Ottomans available.
If everyone could research a bit about what their army is like in 1799, it would be a huge help to me. I know most of where the French and Austrian armies were in November 1799, though if they could provide still research it as well, it would really help me.
If you could post it in here as well, it would be a great help.
Announcement:
:spain: Declaration of Madrid: The Spanish King declares that for the coming years, Spain will maintain a policy of armed neutrality in the conflict between the 2nd Coalition and the French Republic.
Spanish army:
Edit: thx Kage for the post below this one!
* The size of the Spanish army in 1799: probably larger than in 1808. The years 1799 to 1808 saw a decline in economy and army for Spain, due to involvement in war with both Portugal and Britain up till 1808. The exact numbers for 1799 are difficult to guess.
* The size of the Spanish army in 1808: 191,500 of which 51,000 were reserves
* The size of the Spanish army in 1812: 160,000 troops, however of lower quality than in 1808, but useful for sieges and blockades
The Spanish army commanders weren't of top quality but on average not too bad either. Some lower-level commanders were apparently lacking in experience at times, especially from 1812 onwards, where the Spanish conventional army had to be formed out of previous militia and guerillas. The 1799 Spanish army should be decent in quality of commanders, but not quite as good as the French.
Over the course of 1799 to 1815, the Spanish did win some larger battles with inferior numbers, but lost most of their battles, however in many of them they had inferior numbers or worse equipment.
The Spanish fleet was a bit outdated compared to the British but not compared to the French. The Spanish was still oriented towards line battles, and not to the same manouverability demonstrated by Nelson.
The Spanish guerillas were highly effective, and the Peninsular war is said to have caused 300,000 French casualties in total. Of these, perhaps half were due to the guerillas, the rest due to conventional battle with Spanish, Portuguese and British troops and due to disease and supply problems in all these campaigns.
Here's a more detailed list of the Spanish army troops in 1808:
INFANTRY:
2 Foot Guards regiments, each three battalions of 1,000 men
35 line infantry regiments, each three battalions of 700 men
10 foreign line infantry regiments (1 Neapolitan, 3 Irish, 6 Swiss)
12 light infantry battalions, each six companies of 200 men
43 militia battalions, each of 600 men
4 provincial grenadier regiments, each two battalions of 800 men
CAVALRY:
2 Horse Guards regiments, each five squadrons of 120 men
12 heavy cavalry regiments, each five squadrons
6 light dragoon regiments, each five squadrons
6 hussar regiments, each five squadrons
[Note: there was a chronic lack of horses, for 15,000 cavalrymen were only 9,000 mounts.]
ARTILLERY:
6 horse batteries
13 foot batteries
21 fortress batteries
1,000 sappers and engineers
These troops were organized into seven armies and one reserve. In autumn 1808 the situation was as follow:
Army of the Centre - General Castanos [45,000 men in 69 battalions and 60 squadrons, ? guns]
Army of Galicia - General Blake [37,000 men in 79 battalions and 4 squadrons, 38 guns]
Army of Aragon - General Palafox [23,500 men in 32 battalions and 5 squadrons, 5 guns]
Army of Estremadura - General Belvedere [12,500 men in 14 battalions and 7 squadrons, 24 guns]
Army of Granada - General Reding [11,500 men in 12 battalions and 4 squadrons, 6 guns]
Army at Somosierra - General San Juan [11,500 men in 20 battalions and 6 squadrons, 22 guns]
Reserves - 51,000 men They were stationed in various points of the country, including the Balearic Islands.
Here is an exellent site of the armies of the era with some very detailed information.I will post bit later some info about the Army of Russian Empire.
http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/NAPOLEON_FOREVER.html
darn it. seems like ive missed the party...I love the napoleonic era!!!!!!! ive been studying it for all my life...
btw: kagemusha, im a regular contributor to that website and been there for years...
:embarassed:
Ditto, Napoleon was my very first real book on history. I owe my passion for history because of him.
So, if there's ever an opening or a new faction (I'm assuming there's no more left?) then please PM me, I'd probably be able to play.
Derfasciti has taken BlackAxe's place.
If you are interested Grand Lord of Poop, you can have Ottoman Empire.
What do you guys think,are the battles with corps sized units bit too big to handle.That would mainly negate the use of artillery and cavalry.Maybe a basic size for controllable unit on battlemap should be Division/brigade?
PS. Grand Lord Of Poop,Thanks for your contributions on that site.The information there is truly great and detailed.:bow:
Hey Ca, just a bit of research (not from wiki) but it seems that the Batavian Republic is not a vassal of France, merely a defensive ally. oficial in 1795 by the Treaty of Den Haag.
So could I please just be a seperate nation, not a vassal?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W...jk_Holland.jpg
Greetings, what's up with the Napoleon's army link? I can't seem to open it at all...always gave me the usual site not found error.
This does sounds better. If everyone else wants this, then just say so.Quote:
What do you guys think,are the battles with corps sized units bit too big to handle.That would mainly negate the use of artillery and cavalry.Maybe a basic size for controllable unit on battlemap should be Division/brigade?
It is a vassal in all but name. Don't worry, there is a chance that you will split off later, and you will have some control over your own foreign policy.Quote:
Hey Ca, just a bit of research (not from wiki) but it seems that the Batavian Republic is not a vassal of France, merely a defensive ally. oficial in 1795 by the Treaty of Den Haag.
And teh site works for me Tran.
Also :bow: @ Grand Lord of Poop - I have enjoyed reading many things on that site in the past.
Yup, the division size does make more sense, so go with it.
Thanks for letting me join. Unfortunately I'm not very experienced in all of this so I ask for patience. That being said, I've only been able to find a little information on Tuscany during this time and so if there are any research suggestions please show me.
And when exactly do we start?
Probably on my Sunday, so late American Saturday. Though don't hold me to that.
For the smaller nations (like Tuscany) I am just going to Approximate.
Just in case you start early or something Ca, I am going away for a few nights.
Its alright, you will have a week to respond.
I'll just warn you in advance that I'll have difficuilty keeping regular checks on this topic during the week since I have school, work, band rehersals and homework so I'll probably only really be able to post and stuff on the weekends.
Hmmm...maybe you shouldn't take France, and play smaller faction like Tuscany instead?
Well, I'm Tuscany.
But I guess I wouldn't mind taking France. That is of course if Hepcat is willing to switch.
haha.
but ok Count I'm willing to take Ottoman Empire if that's the only one left. although you do understand that I'm not that well-informed regarding the ottoman empire compared to other European nations. nevertheless, its alright.
and btw: like some people have said above, I am also really busy so you can only expect me in the weekends, and even not all the time...sorry...oh and the division, like what kagemusha has stated, would be an ideal tactical unit for the battle system. :2thumbsup:
His Most Imperial Majesty the Sultan (HMIMTS), Selim the III of the Ottoman Empire:
We condemn the French attacks on our Egyptian lands. We also ask for the support of all our allied nations (especially the British navy patrolling the Mediterranean) to stem the influx of these barbarians.
to France: What will you gain? You may want to try and achieve the glories of Alexander and Caesar (who both attacked Egypt). But you will not, cannot, and shall not succeed. Our armies may be in decline, but we have vast numbers and numerical superiority (almost 10 to 1! that's a sure win, no matter the technologies). Stop this fruitless war, or you will fail, like in history. (the french attacks on Egypt proved to be unsuccessful in the end and they withdrew)
@ Count:
contrary to popular belief, the Sultan, Selim III in this case, was actually a generally wise ruler who did some reforms to the declining army. So I hope people don't view us as a bunch of middle-eastern hodgepots...
and also: if my current ruler dies, i will still be able to continue the game with the new ruler, right?