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Oh yeah, well your first word has no subject! ~;p
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I'm not surprised it's wrong. I'll make sure to try to get them right now that I know, although I might slip up from time to time. :sweatdrop:
I hope you join. :2thumbsup: As Gibson noted, adoptions are common early on.
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Originally Posted by deguerra
oh yeah, well it was a sentence :clown:
fair enough sign me up. I may have to be somewhat absent during the next week due to work though
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Originally Posted by Zim
Alright! at the very least be a seconder to the 4 laws so far. u can be a generic member of the order not associated with a house until next turn when we adopt some dude
im not sure I actually like the house system, it doesnt really fit with the order. im happy enough for you to use it, but would it be ok if I remained out of the houses for now, even once i get an avatar? in any case, consider them seconded
hmm, interesting thoughts. the houses aren't actual family systems, but rather ways to organize the regions of the order better.
and thats up to the hochmeister. u probably won't get an army without being in a house tho, only a defensive garrison.
I guess I could refrain from assigning you one forecver, technically. :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
Is there a better organizationaly system? I do like the idea of a hierarchy, and seperate centers for the sections of the Order.
Maybe the Brotherhood of Prussia, and the Brotherhood of Livonia? Or the Chapter of such and such?
I could make him a general of the Order, and delegate the Hochmeister's army to him sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
I actually have thought about how it was strange to have the Houses. From henceforth we can call them Chapter Houses, but still Dukes because that's easier.
well, broadlly speaking the order can be divided into the Teutonic Order and the Livonian Order (the Livonians being the more northern group) although technically the latter was a subject of the former by the time this campaign starts IIRC. I suppose if one wanted some sort of hierachical system the house system (or provinces, or chapters if you want a more "order"ish system) works best
That works for me. Lets wait for deguerra to chime in. As a German he might have a better idea of some kind of title that would fit better than Duke (even if in game they're the same), or even a better organizational system.Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
Gah, I sposted right as you were writing this. :clown: If you were in complete control, how would you set it up? Keeping in mind that we'd like to keep some kind of hierarchy, and titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
Yeah, I'm open to ideas that will diversify it a bit from KOTR.
Hey, the Gahzette is out. I wonder if we were too new to make it in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:T...state_1250.png
is a nice map showing the teutonic and livonian order territories. ill have a think and search regarding names and titles, but not now, as im still at work. english wiki seems useless, so ill have a search of the german one when i get home
That's fine. Are we agreed upon changing the names of the Houses to the Livonian and Teutonic/Prussian Orders?
Ok, I redid my first post in the Diet, changing the Houses to the Livonian and Prussian Chapters (both part of the Teutonic Order :yes: ). Does that look good, guys?
if anyone didnt catch me on that lie then they dont know me well. im not devoted enough to my work.
right. basically, the order was split into two "Meistertuemer" (lit. Masterdoms, if you will): Prussia and Livonia, which is pretty much the same as having a Teutonic and Livonian order, except this is how it was done once they were unified. If you're happy with having just two "houses" for now, and possibly adding more later (more Masterdoms on different territory, ie a Masterdom of the Baltic or whatever) then you could use those.
After that, the Masterdoms were split into Komtureien, headed by a Komtur. This is basically what the individual regions in M2TW represent (CA got that much pretty accurately).
As for titles:
Brother (Knight)
Komtur (Count)
Meister (Duke)
Hochmeister (King/Emperor)
other titles include the Ordensmarschall (Headed the army) and the Schatzmeister (treasurer, possibly could be chancellor rather than Kanzler which doesnt really exit for an order)
sound allright?
It's Gibson's and EF's game, but I like those. I changed them in this post. Everyone tell me if it looks ok (haven't changed Kanzler yet, waiting for input).
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...41&postcount=2
rereading it now brother should be Bruder to stick with the German
Yeah, I dig it. Change the Kanzler too, it'll help wean us from KOTR a tad.
excellent. I think the distinction is an important one, as the Order was technically an ecclesiastic entity rather than the secular one it became later on.
Ok guys. I have to run to do my turn in the Teutonic campaign, but I'll make those last few changes. :yes:
Sweet. We'll be able to start Tuesday.
I'm happy with these ideas, 2 Houses is fine for now and we can add stuff like Chapter of Poloand or something if we conquer it. So right now my guy is Duke of Livonia and faction heir?
Yep, and upon request, Warluster's Dietrich is in your House as well. Given the probable lack of players, it might be good to make him your heir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
Perhaps it's a bit premature, but
https://forums.totalwar.org/wiki/ind...Frozen_Crusade
is the wiki article for our PBM. Feel free to edit it or create new pages as you see fit.
I'll join this PBM when there's a spare general. But don't just adopt any general, adopt a good one for me :beam:
We should get more generals soon, Roadkill. :yes: Not only do we have few for the number of territories we own, but we're about to conquer more cities. :skull:
Good work, Gibson. :2thumbsup: I'm sure that entry will be much longer in no time.
We should clarify something. Should we adopt all generals offered, or can I avoid terrible ones (i.e., a fifty year old, disloyal general with 0 command).
Deguerra is first on the waiting list, but there should be one coming on Turn 3 too. You won't have to wait to long. In the meantime, feel free to play as a regular nonmilitary Bruder so you can get a piece of the Council.
As far as adoption goes, don't get old or disloyal ones. Others, as shown in KOTR, can still advance quickly.
I like the CHapter's thing.
We should think of similar things to make this PBM, I don't think most players want this to be a KOTR Copy. Perhaps we could have two Chancellors? Economical one and Military One?
Or maybe, OOC, we could try and be like the Order and vote in the Leader, simply by swapping characters and such and pretending one CHaracter is Hochmeister?
I have a few other ideas, though small ones. We could have Military Police?