hmm... I don't think so :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarathos
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hmm... I don't think so :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarathos
Can i still send my orders in ?:embarassed:
Of course, yes.
Why do the Central Powers have to be so unreasonable? I'll be willing to up the previous offer to 15 donuts and 2 gallons of Neapolitan ice cream. :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I need more land to grow my donut trees and my ice cream trees on. Then I'll be able to produce my own, and since no one wants to give me any land I have to take it by force. My people demand donuts and ice cream! :hmg:Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC} King Jan III Sobieski
We could even go to 20 donuts and 3 gallons of ice cream but don't tell them that in the beggining.Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC} King Jan III Sobieski
Ferret, when do we start?
Soon is all I can say, I waited a little longer as some deployment orders were still trickling in and I'd rather the players did it than me. Soon though I will have enough time to do it and then we can start.
Okay I have a little free time this evening so I'll see whether I can get everyone's initial deployment done. I've got a lot of exams next week though so I may return to the original start date (12th June)
Right all countries have been deployed. If you sent me your orders but did not recieve a reply with a visual representation (on the map) please PM and I wll get them to you. Now I shall start to write the Intro and then we can begin.
Sorry for the triple post btw...
July 1914, turn one.
The great Nations of the World are gearing themselves for War. After the death of the Austrian Duke, Franz Ferdinand, Serbia has been invaded. Following this nearly all nations were drawn into what would become the greatest war of all time.
Two major alliances opposed each other and many supposedly neutral nations were also dragged in. The Triple Alliance of Germany, Austria and the Ottoman Empire are all at war with the Triple Entente of Britain, Russia and France. Germany is also poised to invade the Lowlands, the very reason Britain have joined the war. Despite the rest of the Nations being neutral now, the events to follow will surely change this as World leaders join the alliance they see as most likely victors.
Britain:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
France:
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Russia:
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Germany:
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Austria:
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Ottomans:
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Scandinavia:
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Coalition of the Lowlands:
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Italy:
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Serbia:
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Bulgaria:
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Romania:
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Greece:
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Iberia:
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Switzerland:
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Turn one orders due in by 12th June
I'd also like to add that a very sharp member has alerted me to a problem with the rules. At this moment there is no way whatsoever to guage how powerful enemy forces are near your own troops and so you cannot make an accurate decision on whether ot is worth attacking or not.
So I am adding a new rule that states that if you ask me I will alert you of all troops within a 2cm radius of your leaders to represent spies.
Sorry for the quintuple post but you guys don't talk much :laugh4:
I think that will involve too much micromanagement and is essentially flawed. I could keep 1,000,000 soldiers 1cm from opposing troops and 5,000,000 one a half cm further to come to their aid.
I believe it would be better to know approximately where opposing troops are and app. their number.
For example in the case of Russia I've stationed 1,000,000 troops 2cm south of Moscow, you could inform other players like this: There are Russian troops somewhere in the vicinity of Moscow, their number is between 0 and 2,500,000.
That way all the players will know app how much troops there are and where are they. I feel that this game will involve mostly massive battles, often involving few million men. It would be impossible to hide army movements on such a scale. Also, it would prevent possible "hoarding" of troops in your territory - for example I train 30,000,000 soldiers and mass them in Ukraine and unleash them all at once if a frontline is broken. In that day and age it would be impossible to hide app. number of soldiers from the enemy and their general location. I find it hard to believe that Germany didn't know how much soldiers Russia had. I mean maybe they didn't know that there was exactly 13,290,173 but they knew that there were between 12 and 15 millions. And maybe they didn't know exactly the place where they were but I doubt that they didn't know whether 3,000,000 russian soldiers were in St. Petersburg or in Caucassus.
This wa you could show on the map general location of all troops and their app. numbers. Then each turn just post the map and everyone is happy and informed. If you must talk to all players via PM each turn and then to check all PM's to see if there are any troops 2cm from their leader, you'd get confused pretty quickly. At least I know I would. Also, armies can be stationed in the capital or base withour a leader. So that could potentially lead to situation where Austrians don't know that there is 4,000,000 strong French army on the outskirts of Vienna if they don't have a leader there.
So to sum it, IMHO, this is the easiest, cleanest and most simple way.
But, it's your call of course, just making a suggestion. I don't wan't to hijack your IH :juggle2:
P.S. Sorry for the long post
Yeah a good post, as I said originally I am always open to improvements as I'm not really experienced in this kind of thing. We'll trial your system for a few turns and if everyone is happy with it we'll carry on with it, sound good to you?
Whatever sound good to you sounds great to me :laugh4:
I'll never get a million men... ~:mecry:
Is there something good going on? I can be an excellent ally, you know that. So... I am open to every ideas to win the war. Or to finish it.
I can offer you a hovel and two cattles, will you fight for Greater Serbia?
^ this is a good deal, trust me...
I wrote the rules I would know :yes:
Make it three, add a chicken, and we'll talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
3 hovels or 3 cattles? I can't afford both... :shame:
Hovels must be mightily expensive in Serbia, you do have 2 million <insert generic currency here>
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Originally Posted by SwedishFish
How About Some Cashews And Milk Instead??
Well after all my leet defences I don't exactly have much cash left... I DEMAND A RICHER SERBIA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
Of course! All demands shall be met, Serbia now has 50 kabillion trillion gazillion moles (6x10^23) of generic currency units. Only problem is all of this free money caused massive hyperinflation so now a loaf of bread costs 40 kabillion trillion gazillion moles. :clown:
By 'richer' I meant cash which is economically viable... :furious3:
Wat? *Invades Poland*
Tsk, tsk, such aggression! :smg::hmg:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
How close are we to playing?
Well so far only 3 people have sent in orders, which is discouraging. This could mean we'd have to replace some people who haven't done anything since signing up which will mean it could take a while longer.
Sorry I haven't got my orders in, was going to wait till near deadline, but I'll try to get them in today. :beam:
Would the host be so kind as to destroy those nations who has yet to send in orders? :clown: Poor Serbia sure could use your help...Quote:
Well so far only 3 people have sent in orders, which is discouraging. This could mean we'd have to replace some people who haven't done anything since signing up which will mean it could take a while longer.
Don't worry. You what they say, "It's not what you know, it's who you know" and at this moment you have some powerful friends... :juggle2:Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
So... how many people sent in orders?
probably only around half, maybe less. Tomorrow I'll be PMing those who have only missed orders once and looking for replacements for those who have missed orders both times. I really don't want to have to play half of the factions myself...
Players who haven't sent in orders this turn, but did last turn:
none now
Players that haven't sent in any orders yet:
PrinceofTroy
Baby Boomer
as you can see this is around half of the players.
I am opening up Austria for anyone to take as it is no good having one of the major powers unplayed :no:
As for those on the first list, they have until Sunday 10:00 GMT :whip:
No Austria playing? Awsome :laugh4:
*Hums the Serbian national anthem*
Just to announce that Bulgaria and Greece are officially members of the Entente. Any attack on them by a neutral country will be considered the same as the attack on Russia, and Russia will respond accordingly and decisively. That goes for an attack on any other member of the Entente of course.
I'm sure the official declaration of war on the Central Powers by Bulgaria and Greece will follow shortly...
To the enemies of the Greek nation: :tnt:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
A segment from a popular Buglarian radio show.
President Vladimir Vazov of Bulgaria
To the people of Buglaria, it is my duty as President of this great country, to annouce that Buglaria has entered into this international conflict as a member of the Triple Ententre. I hereby formally and officially declare war on the alliance of the Central powers....God bless Bulgaria, and may this conflict soon be resolved.
:smash:
I'll give a hovel to whoever who enters Vienna first!!!
Shame Greece haven't sent in their orders though...
apart from that only Scandinavia and Switzerland haven't. Good work guys. About the write up....well it may be done tomorrow if I have the time but it's likely I wont and if I don't it'll be done on Wednesday. Hopefully you can wait that long...
Bulgaria was a monarchy during WW1, I believe :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarathos
:furious3: I just did!!! :furious3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
:turtle::laugh4::turtle:
:smash:
Radio message, news reel and press release from Constantine I, King of the Hellenes:
I, your humble king and servant of the people, wish to announce that Greece has entered into a defensive alliance with the Kingdoms of Bulgaria and Russia. We seek no aggression, and those who would physically do us ill should be warned.
Doing the writeup now, a lot of work :(
All I can say at the moment is: there's gonna be a hell of a battle in Southern Belgium :beam:
The Battle of Bastogne, July 1914
Map:
https://img74.imageshack.us/img74/84...ognezg8.th.gif
The BEF, led by Haig, had been in Belgium for some years now due to the pact the British had signed to protect Belgian neutrality. However after the formation of the Lowlands Coalition political relations had changed and the Germans had been allowed to march their army into Belgium unopposed. A Lowlands official had also sent Haig a message asking the British to leave Belgium but he hadn't, he couldn't leave Belgium so defenceless against the newly arrived German horde. Instead he camped his army in the Belgian village of Bastogne and awaited the arrival of the Germans.
However he was not alone. French Generals Joffre and Foche had heard that the Germans had entered Belgium and so, while making sure their borders were still secure, they led an army each, both comprising of 2 and a half million French soldiers. This meant that the Entente forces now numbered some 6 million, 1 million of those being the specialist BEF under Haig. In addition to this Haig had recently constructed some 300 artillery batteries, more than had ever been fielded in an army before. However due to his exposed position Haig was low on supplies and so only 100 of those batteries would be able to fire if any battle commenced.
A few weeks later a Belgian army of 650,000 arrived and asked the British and French to leave or face war. This was a bold move seeing as the Belgians were so outnumbered and so the Entente leaders declined, but made no advance on the Belgians and instead waited for the Germans.
The next morning the German army came into view, numbering around 2 and a half million and fielding 10 batteries of artillery. And so the battle of Bastogne began.
The French commanders moved their forces to the sides of the British, Joffre to face the Belgians and Foche to confront the Germans. Despite being heavily outnumbered the Central Powers were not deterred and both their armies headed straight for the BEF, leaving a few soldiers to guard the German artillery. This artillery had already started it's bombardment and was causing heavy casualties on the unentrenched British, despite the British having more guns they ironically had less effect and struggled to hit the rapidly advancing German forces. As the Germans got nearer these guns also had to stop firing, out of fear of hitting friendlies, whereas the German batteries were able to start a new bombardment on the French, who were still far from the Town. The Germans had clearly put an experienced man in command of the artillery as the ten batteries had managed to cause twice as many casualties as their one hundred British counterparts.
However the Entente still massively outnumbered their enemies and the battle was swiftly an Entente victory, despite huge casualties taken. At the end of the battle there were only 450,000 British soldiers left standing, with only 200 batteries left as well, the others destroyed. The French suffered less badly, Foche only lost 200,000 of his soldiers and Joffre only losing 800,000, leaving 4 million French regulars still standing.
The Belgians had lost all of their untrained troops and 400,000 of their regulars. However the specialised men only took 100 casualties in exchange for the thousands they caused. The Germans had no such luck and lost 1.5 million men trying to assault the village, their batteries, on the other hand, were all able to withdraw safely back to German lands.
At the end of the Battle the British and French commanders were unsure of what to do about the now hostile Belgians. The battle had left the centre of Southern Belgium empty of enemy soldiers but their spies had reported more Germans to the West and fortified Belgian forces to the East, blocking off the French border. In the end they decided that they would stay and wait until the next month before making any decisions.
OOC: and so ends the battle of Bastogne. I wont be doing writeups like this for every battle, as that would take me years, but this one was very important in deciding what would happen in the West and so I decided to pay special attention to it.
The turn is still not over as, despite having already spent 2 hours on it, I am only about half done visually representing people's orders, and so I need to resolve a few more battle before putting up the end of turn writeup. This truly is a lot of work :sweatdrop:
edit: it seems I forgot to include the British artillery on that map as well :wall:
Here is the map of the begining of August, 1914. Expect you feedback soon, nearly done after over 3 hours now :laugh4:
https://img161.imageshack.us/img161/...1914lq8.th.gif
Austria has been recoloured to avoid confusion between them and England.
Phew I think I'm done, if anyone hasn't recieved an end of turn and/or spy report please let me know.
Let August begin.
Message from the Prime Minister of France:
Coalition of the Lowlands, you're oppression of the Walloon minority is at an end. Lay down your arms and you may receive mercy.
So... is the Entente allied with Serbia?
:balloon2: France declares an alliance with Serbia:balloon2:
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Originally Posted by shlin28
Will Also Defend Serbia :clown::egypt:
Okay guys, I've got a few rules to run by you all (to make sure you're okay with changes after we've started). A big thank you to Sarmatian for suggesting and refining them.
1)The recruiting of new soldiers takes one turn, so they can only be deployed on the map at the start of the next turn (eg if you recruited a million now then you'd actually get them in September)
2)Upgrading soldiers: can only happen in your borders and takes a full turn to implement. This means that you cannot instantly upgrade and attack in the same turn, the upgrading will take an entire turn.
3)Researched items cannot be recruited until the next turn. Eg: 1st turn=research tanks, 2nd turn=recruit tanks, 3rd turn=deploy tanks.
4)Researching takes two turns for non-major factions (anyone that is not GB, France, Russia, Germany, AH, Ottomans) if what they are researching has not been discovered before (you will be able to tell this from the end of turn reports I will be doing).
5)You can only deploy new units within your own borders, or those of a neighbouring ally, providing you have a leader there.
And actually I would like to ask whether everyone would enjoy reading an end of turn report, giving you all a general idea of what is going on across the world, because I don't want to spend ages writing it if no one does :laugh4:
Opinions welcome :yes:
I would like to know where Romania stands on this diplomatic field?
EDIT: Agree with rules and report.
Yes to the new rules
Yes to the end of turn report.
Me too, obviously...Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
The new rules make sense
I'm all for situation reports for each turn
I agree, except that I must ask you to change Serbia into a major faction!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
:clown:
So, are we gonna see end of turn report now? Huh? Are we, are we, are we???? :smash: :smash:
I, as head of the Confederation of Switzerland, wish to commit my remarks upon this situation which has gripped Europe.
It is foolish.
Why fight for such useless things, by young lives and count by generations? Surely the recent battle of Bastogne has shown those foolish enough to fight, like barbarians of old, for land that it is not worth generaions of human beings for such mere thing's as land.
We are very disapointed, and remain certian by the fact that land can be won by more means then brute force, and for those act more barbarous then there forefathers millions of years old.
OOC: Sorry for the inactivity, Elite Ferret, but I needed a slight break. I am offically open for negoation, those, ah, willing to see if I am interested in a good deal for land, or war.
It's simple Baby Boomer. You can either join the winning side or the Central Powers. :laugh4: :oops: Sorry guys, I know what happens, I peaked at the end.
Can join The Balkian (Serbia,Romania, Bulgaria (?),Spain and Greece0 Allaince :D
I'm going to have to leave this IH and all the others I am participating in. Without my own computer I have limited access to the internet, so less time to do anything on it. I'm sorry.
So both Austria and Germany are without players now:shame:
Are we going to try a recruitment drive or are we going to declare a victory for the entente?
This game 'aint ending yet! I'll see if I can find players for those two factions. A lot of people haven't sent in orders anyway so this phase is going to be extended for an indefinite period of time, probably until all major powers have orders sent in.
The million qusetion, have I sent the orders?
no...
Sorry I havent sent my orders in, I have been busy.
New rules sound good to me, and my orders shall be sent in ASAP. The King of the Hellenes has been ill with a severely irritated dental crown. The royal dentist has been dismissed. :laugh4::yes::laugh4:
:inquisitive:
P.S. - I did get my end of turn report.
I would switch to Germany if it is alright...
The lowlands should be all but finished off after this turn. A switch to the Germans would probably be a good idea.
I'll get my orders in sometime today.
that's some boast Woad :clown:
I'd actually rather someone like Switzerland or a neutral Balkan nation took over a power, as the Lowlands are actually an important factor on the Western front. Though if you are sure I wont stop you, maybe BabyBoomer, Sarathos or Warman would be interested in taking over the Lowlands, I'd actually let them control them and their current nation seeing as they are both so small and likely to be destroyed soon.
Or I could take both since we are allied and the lowlands essentially depends on Germany for its survival now.
Actually if you like you (or me if you'd prefer) could write a story where the head of the Lowlands coalition submits to German rule or something, sounds good to me and that is a great way of getting a German player, still need an Austrian though...
Let Serbia annex Austria maybe?
I could try writing it. Just give me a day.
If you can think of a good reason I might just consider that :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
Actually you could say that Serbia surrendered to Austria or something but you'd have to remain a part of the central powers, otherwise the game would be too unbalanced. But I'm sure you were joking anyway :laugh4:
Untul we find a player for at least Germany, it's not worth continuing. And sorry for not sending in orders. Will do it today or tomorrow latest...
Still no player for Austria, I'm reluctant to continue until we find one. Also only about half of you have sent in orders, I'm not gonna chase you all up, it's a waste of my time.
Come on people!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
I'll take back Germany if that's alright. Do you still have my maps and orders from last turn EF? If you could send them back to me, because I lost everything when my computer died...:sweatdrop: