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My 2 cents on the idea topic: maybe a second league division for people that can actually handle 14+ and huge unitsizes, I think alot of players here actually do have great pcs and it would rock to use some of that potential for the most overwhelming confrontatons of both sides, in my opinion. I'd love to see a force of 2000+ pikes walk up to my line while my hastati prepare to unleash doom from the sky ;)!
My, my... this has taken an interesting twist.
Paullus, thank you kindly. It definitely is nice to know we have the support of an EB member.
After having read the last few posts, I started brewing an idea.
I am a firm supporter of historical accuracy. History has always been one of my main hobbies. On the other hand, when it comes to PC games I don't always expect much and versatility and fairness are important for me as well.
So I think we should have two leagues. I'd even like to go with three but we lack the participants for that.
The two leagues, or "books" as I'd like to call them would be:
"The Myths" and "The Histories"
In Myths, we should have 20-stack armies with the sharpest and shiniest unit roster with units that may never have been on the same battlefield in the numbers we'll spawn them.
It will be up to the respective participants to decide if they can support Large or Huge armies.
In the Histories, we should go with 14-stack "historical" armies in accordance with the suggestions kindly provided by Maion and Paullus.
Additionally, in "Myths" there will be a strict Greek vs. Roman rule. The culture surviving at the end wins. Then, if it's the Greeks they can slaughter each other over the prize and if it's the Romans they can have a civil war.
In "Histories" we should go with the earlier mentioned "bracket" tournament and so we might see Greek vs. Greek and possibly (though unlikely since there aren't so many participants yet) Roman vs. Roman... because, let's face it, if there's one thing the Greeks were better at than fighting off invaders, it was fighting each other. And Romans will always want to be Imperator.
That sounds like a great idea, both serves the goal of having fun as to achieve the goal we had set when this tournament was invented. I'd be happy to play both, keep up the good work guys!
I'm not sure about the two "books" yet. I'd like to hear a few more opinions and (more important!) pros and cons about them.
Generally, I like "The Histories" better, though I'm still reluctant to give up the Romans vs Greeks idea, especially since this is "book" supposed to be historical (After all the roman civil war was much later then most of their wars against the Greeks (Except perhaps the war against Pontos and a few others I don't know about).
Now some thoughts on the different tournament systems:
Format:
x) Name of the system
About: How it is done (Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing) and perhaps some more thoughts which don't fit into any other category.
Advantages: The advantages of the system IMO(or things that imo could be seen as advantages by others) . Feel free to add more.
Disadvantages: Tells its own tale.
Solutions: Possible solutions for the problems stated above (Problems with the solutions in brackets).
1) the Single-elimination tournament
How to: Two players fight each other once (pairings chosen by some random means), the looser is out of the tournament. Players keep competing with each other till all participants of one of the two sides are out.
Advantages:
- Fewer battles.
- Weak players are sorted out very fast.
- No draws.
- It is possible to determine 1 single player as the winner.
Disadvantages:
- Only one battle for weak players / players who meet are strong foe or are just unlucky in the first round.
- Unfair if one side has more players than the other one.
- A single strong player can (and will) make his side win, irrespective of the performance of the other players of his side.
- Weak "team spirit". (Result of the point above.)
Solutions:
- Multiple lives for the players of the less numerous faction (Unfair if not all players (of one side) can get the same amount of lives).
2) The "Bracket" system
About: c&p'd from Tiberius Claudius Marcellus' post:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Advantages:
- At least two battles for each player.
- Weak players are sorted out fast.
- Weak players have a higher chance to battle another weak player at least once.
- Unlucky players can still win or at least last longer.
- No draws.
- It is possible to determine 1 single player as the winner.
- Moderate number of battles
Disadvantages:
- Few battles for weak players.
- More complicated then the other systems.
- Doesn't go well with the Romans vs Greeks idea. (e.g. one side having more players with one loss than the other.
- A single strong player can (and will) make his side win, irrespective of the performance of the other players of his side.
- Weak "team spirit". (Result of the point above.)
- Unfair if one side has more players than the other one.
Solutions:
- Multiple lives for the players of the less numerous faction (Unfair if not all players (of one side) can get the same amount of lives).
3) The Point System:
About: Each player fights all players of the other side. The number of victories of each side is counted, the side with the most victories wins the tournament.
Advantages:
- Fewer problems with unequal numbers of contestants, though of course equal numbers are still preferable. (2 Romans vs 100 Greeks will still mean 200 chances for both side to score)
- Long tournament.
- Even the weakest player is guaranteed to have the set number of battles (number of "imperatores" x number of "strategoi" = number of battles)
- Draws possible.
- Winning sides rather then winning players.
- Victories from all (or most) players are needed to make one side win.
- Small prices (= titles), like the ones mentioned by Irish earlier, are easier to decide upon.
Disadvantages:
- Long tournament
- Draws possible. (Both points are meant to be mentioned twice.)
- No single winner.
- Weak players won't be "knocked out" at all.
Solutions: ---
I don't speak ancient Greek, somebody please tell me the proper plural of "strategos".
Edit: Having a subforum for tournaments would be really nice. Otherwise there is the danger of this section being flooded with numerous tournament related topics soon. ^^'
That's why I made my suggestion to counteract the knockout format.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burebista
Plenty of 1v1 and 2v2 games, with stats, wins/losses and replays (if possible) posted for the jury to consider. The overall winner and individual team/player award are considered.
All we need to establish now is how many games do we want to play.
I think that "Two Books" Idea sounds nice. IF it could Work I don't know. We might just make things more complicated but if the mutliplaying participators would be interrested and there enough of them to take part in that aswell we should try it.
Bracket system...:inquisitive: well I don't know. It should be tested in practice first.
strategoi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolg
Righto.
Taking all of the above into consideration, let's come up with a system to please everybody (or mostly everybody).
First, let's break it down to the essentials... what we want is to a.) give everyone a chance to fight and b.) have a clear winner to settle the legion vs. phalanx original dispute.
Here's how I think we can accomplish both.
First we should start simplistic so I propose a "point system", UEFA-style league, where everyone gets to play 3 battles. Opponents and maps will be randomly selected by the jury.
At the end of this, if there are any ties, we'll have a semi-final round. Then, the Roman Imperator and Greek Strategos with the most points are selected, given some time to prepare and then they will decide, beyond all doubt, which culture is the winner in one open-field battle for the "Nike-Victoria" cup (=p).
Additionally, we can include awards for: best ambush-tactician, best cavalry commander, and some of the others which were already suggested above.
I'd still like to implement the "two books" system, but we can do this in the next tournament. Let's try this one first, and find all the chinks in proverbial armour and then we can elaborate by including more stages/events, etc.
Preferrably, by then we will also have more participants.
Agreed?
P.S.:
We should definittely do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios
But we'll have to draw some more attention first. A score of siggies and videos after the tournament is concluded might help.
I agree.
Well it is really better if we try the "two books" system later. Right now lets concentrate on the main-tournament.
I also support the idea of awards. The subforum is also a great Idea. However I have no idea what we need for that but as Burebista said - with more interrest it will come together.
I don't really get what you mean with "semi-finals", I'll just try to make a suggestion based on your one:
1. All players compete in a set number of matches. Some kind of point system is used (How does the UEFA system work btw? I'm not a soccer fan. :sweatdrop: ), the side with the most points wins the faction tournament.
2. Every player with more then a certain amount of points (preferably only those with the highest score, but we need to make sure there's a decent number of particapants) automatically qualyfies for the second round of the tournament. This would be a knock-out tournament to decide who's the best individual general. The second round could either be Greeks vs Romans or mixed.
I think for the moment we need a list of all players who have applied so far. (I could list everyone who applied on the forums, but I don't know if there are some who applied per pm only.)
An important questions to discuss:
How many matches are there going to be if we go with the point system? Remember that there should be equal numbers of games for all players.
Sorry I didn't make that too clear. I was in a bit of a hurry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolg
By UEFA-style I guess I meant match-ups with points awarded at the end and a hierarchy based on the points. I think, since we don't really have draws we could go for 1 point for victory, nil if you lose.Quote:
1. All players compete in a set number of matches. Some kind of point system is used (How does the UEFA system work btw? I'm not a soccer fan. :sweatdrop: ), the side with the most points wins the faction tournament.
Not a bad idea.Quote:
2. Every player with more then a certain amount of points (preferably only those with the highest score, but we need to make sure there's a decent number of particapants) automatically qualyfies for the second round of the tournament. This would be a knock-out tournament to decide who's the best individual general. The second round could either be Greeks vs Romans or mixed.
Similar to what I had in mind for my 'semi-final'. Only in my version it would still be point-based so we could have a one-on-one for the final battle.
And I figured we could use a second round only in the event of a tie between players. Alternatively, we could go with your version and pick 2-3 generals from each side. This, of course, depends on how many participants we have.
Yes, do that please. And I'll post the list on the first message of the topic so we can have it there.Quote:
I think for the moment we need a list of all players who have applied so far. (I could list everyone who applied on the forums, but I don't know if there are some who applied per pm only.)
Like I said in my post, I think 3 should do. Enough for everyone to be entertained, not too many so it doesn't drag on for months. We have to keep in mind that RL usually comes first.Quote:
An important questions to discuss:
How many matches are there going to be if we go with the point system? Remember that there should be equal numbers of games for all players.
Romans:
-Rootje
-We shall fwee...Wodewick
-Macilrille (Rome, if he gets EB 1.2 to work)
Greeks:
-Gabeed (Ptolemaioi)
-IrishHitman (Macedonia - Unless I got the pun wrong)
-Phalanx300 (KH > Macedonia/Epeiros > Rome)
-Hasdrubal Barca (Seleuceia or Macedonia)
-Potocello (KH > any other Greeks > Rome)
-Turnus (as a "phalanx faction")
-Maion Maroneios (Macedonia) is probably out as he is now a member of the jury.
Edit: Is there anybody here who could make us some sigs? Propaganda. ^^
RL Issues will preclude me doing anything more than the occasional historical research, sorry. That is as big a problem as 1.2 not working...
Damn, i would love to participate in an online mini-tournament, but i am a total noob multiplayer wise, since i never fought one single battle online.
I would most likely get trounced by smarter folk. So i hope someone is kind enough to upload the battle movies so the newbies here can watch. :clown:
haha love the propaganda sig idea. maybe we could make this tournament like a monthly thing. each month we could have different match up between factions.
i'm getting excited for this to start =)
There's always a first time. You can get better. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by BurningEGO
Hey, I've never battled online, and yet I'm jumping in the deep end. So what if you lose, at least you lose against an opponent with a brain!:sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by BurningEGO
I sOOOOOOOOOOOOOO want te be in. Ive never played MP much in the original game (it mainly got down to everyone using massed praetorian cavalry or massed urban cohort or ART or ELE)
And in EB i just got lost in the wonderful campaign.
Im ready to take the jump now, as these two juggernauts of war meet.
Ill play as a roman since there seems to be a shortage.
Btw, do you need 1.2 or are 1.1 and 1.2 online compatible? otherwise ill download. (didnt want to because of save game compatibility)
You need EB 1.2
If you want to continue your campaign you can just un- and reistall EB (Try if it works if you just unistall EB 1.2, but I don't think it will). I know it takes some time, but not as much as too start your campaign all over again.
The updated player list:
Romans:
-Rootje
-We shall fwee...Wodewick
-alexanderthegreater
-Macilrille (Rome, if he gets EB 1.2 to work)
Greeks:
-Gabeed (Ptolemaioi)
-IrishHitman (Macedonia)
-Phalanx300 (KH > Macedonia/Epeiros > Rome)
-Hasdrubal Barca (Seleuceia or Macedonia)
-Potocello (KH > any other Greeks > Rome)
-Turnus (as a "phalanx faction")
...1.2 is installed ontop of 1.1 IIRC.
That's right. You install 1.1 then 1.2
If that still doesn't work... you should check FAQs or post a thread in the Technical Help section. That sounds really strange.
And addressing another issue... I think it should be alright for jury members to participate as well. After all, there are five of us so there are still 4 left to "judge" the other's performance.
After all, everyone should have a go at this. And if the Romans are still short I think I'll jump in as a Roman general.
Hopefully tonight we'll be able to have a little demo tournament among jury members and see how it works. I'm pretty excited, actually.
It certainly have some advantages if we could participate as well. If Burebista and I play as Romans and Maion Maroneios as Macedonia we would have 5 Romans and 7 Greeks meaning that if one of the later changes sides we have even teams and most of our problems are solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burebista
On the other hand I don't want there to be any doubt about the objectivity of the jury.
Perhaps we should turn this thread into a poll (if that's possible) to sound the public opinion on this matter...
Right. I am installing 1.2 right now. Thanks for the tip of un- and reinstalling. Wouldnt want to lose my roman empire to an update, would I?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolg
As to unit roster limitations, I seriously suggest we don't spam slingers. Theyre overpowered to the point that I'd call it ahistorical.
Hamilcar for example seems to have used them on sicily to disrupt/slowdown/demoralize the romans. There is a large difference between a slowdown and a mowdown.
I think historically large armies made slingers less effective since you could only take out a small percentage before your foe closed in. But because in RTW the unit numbers are only a fraction of reality (although for gaming standards really huge) that made slingers overpowered. My point is that slingers are portrayed historical in EB, but since the numbers are ahistorical there is an imbalance.
Think of it this way: when fighting 1 on 1 would you prefer a sarissa or a slinger? a slinger id say. (even though id suck with a slinger)
But when fighting with 30.000 against 30.000? bring on the sarissas!
I'd love to join in if you're ok, just to get some practice.Quote:
Hopefully tonight we'll be able to have a little demo tournament among jury members and see how it works. I'm pretty excited, actually.
Hey, sure. Not like it's the Buena Vista social club.
Anyone's welcome to join.
Woohoo, scrimmage! I might be available tonight, around what time are you guys going to be online? And we're using 1.2 with no further mods or additions currently, yes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burebista
not sure what timezone youre in, but in mine its evening so would any of you want to have a friendly match right now? im online as Alexanderthegreater so im on the top of the alphabetical list in the lobby.
Oh yes, EB v1.2 with no mods.
Well, I have to do a clean install of EB 1.2, after that I'll look for you.
Had some compatibility issues bcos i didnt had the fixes. Wont be able to play today because of it ;(
Need another imperator? Sign me up.
Will we be using hamachi? :inquisitive:
Actually... we'd be in need of two more, to tell you the truth.
And, of course, you're more than welcome to join!
I think hamachi would work nicely, yes. But Tolg and HunGeneral had a go at it today with regular online match-up and it seems to have gone rather well.
It's Makedonia 1- Romans nil so far.
I seem to have some rotten luck, their game appeared "Not Compatible". I still don't know why.
Tip for Romani: Since your legions are cheap, buy some expensive elephants to punch through those pikes.
how is getting the subforum going? that would be awesome if we had one =]
where is the video for the first battles?:help:
As to the non-compatibility issue (which I suffered from too yesterday) Tolg kindly pointed out to me that i hadn't downloaded the 1.2 bug fixes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burebista
I just read this interesting thread and thought of sharing my idea of tournament system.
For an iliustratory purposes I will be using a completely random number of participants on both sides. Say there is 5 Roman generals and 7 Hellenistic strategoi.
First stage:
Because there are less Romans they all get to fight two battles. Their opponents are randomly chosen from among the strategoi.
First round (example):
Roman 1 - Strategos 3
Roman 2 - Strategos 7
Roman 3 - Strategos 2
Roman 4 - Strategos 4
Roman 5 - Strategos 6
As you see the opponent is randomly chosen. However two strategoi (1 and 5) had no battles yet. So they are on priority for the second round.
Second round:
Roman 1 - Strategos 7
Roman 2 - Strategos 6
Roman 3 - Strategos 1
Roman 4 - Strategos 5
Roman 5 - Strategos 2
Now the two strategos who had no battles yet gets a random Roman opponent. The remaining romans get random opponents from the 4 remaining strategoi (7-2(had no battles yet)-1(already fought against)=4).
For each victory Team and player is awarded 1 point. The team with the most points wins the First stage (legion vs phalanx) of the tournament.
Second stage:
Lets say there are 2 Roman generals who got 2 points (won both of their battles) and there are 2 Strategoi who also have 2 points.
First round:
Roman 1 - Strategos 1
Roman 2 - Strategos 2
Second round:
Roman 1 - Strategos 2
Roman 2 - Strategos 1
Each player fight his two opponents and gets 1 point for each victory. the player with most points wins the Best General part of of the tournament. With this stage of the tournament there are lots of possible variations, such as draws, uneven numbers of generals on both sides, etc. however all of these issues can be sorted.
Third stage:
Massive 3vs3 or 4vs4 battle for fun and to close the tournament.
Ah one weekend I'm away and the first matches are already being played,ha!
I keep feeling abit stupid for asking but I just lack the experience of setting up a TW game online...how to ''fix'' my currentsetup?
Currently have:
Rome+alex installed,playing on alex.exe and 1.2 EB with phalanx mod
to play online I could use my RTW Gold edition, is it possible to install the game twice, or maybe on an external harddisc? I think Rome total war could be played without ''registration error'' on a external harddisc,not sure.
Please enlighten me with a step by step path onto total pwnage without losing the abilty to resume my grand campaign :)!
I think that should be up to the players. Wichever works better for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWFanatic
Not sure how to approach this topic. :sweatdrop: (Recommondations appreciated)Quote:
Originally Posted by Potocello
For the moment I'll try to increase the popularity of the tournament by adding a "cry for help" in my sig, asking for skilled photoshop masters to make us some sigs and trying to get more players to join.
I'll upload it later. Any suggestions on which site I should use to upload it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibrahim
That's pretty close to what Burebista and I had in mind. And likely to the format that's going to be used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silence Hunter
If it's so interesting why don't I see your name on the player list yet? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Silence Hunter
Don't worry, it was only a test anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by rootje
I don't think installing RTW twice will work. (Perhaps if you do it on another computer, but I doubt it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by rootje
You only need Alex.exe to play EB using it, don't you? This means it should be posssible to backup alex.exe and your savegames, uninstall EB, reinstall it play your mp matches and then reinstall the files needed to play it on alex.exe. On the other hand I'm probably not the right person to answer as I just gave up trying to make EB run on alex (didn't get it to work with trivial script...)
The updated player list:
Romans:
-Rootje
-We shall fwee...Wodewick
-alexanderthegreater
-TWFanatic
-Macilrille (Rome, if he gets EB 1.2 to work)
Greeks:
-Gabeed (Ptolemaioi)
-IrishHitman (Macedonia)
-Phalanx300 (KH > Macedonia/Epeiros > Rome)
-Hasdrubal Barca (Seleuceia or Macedonia)
-Potocello (KH > any other Greeks > Rome)
-Turnus (as a "phalanx faction")
I would love to participate but I'm very busy the next two weeks (Uni, parties, competitions, etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolg
Repeating myself here, but I think this tournament will bring us together as we tell tales and grudgingly respect each other. That is, if it is done in good spirits and with sportsmanship.
Good idea to make it. Perhaps at some point people who prefers Suebi, Casse or whatever can participate as well.
I wish Wursti made a Phalanx Strong video along with his Legion Strong video. That would work quite well for this thread. :-D
That is unless someone wants to make some sort of propaganda video spoof for this contest.
If this time goes well I'd love to do it like Potocello said: A monthly (or perhaps every second month depending how much time is needed for the preparations and the battles itself) tournament with different factions each month. (e.g. Celts VS Germans, Barbaroi Vs "civilized" people, HA-factions against each other etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Macilrille
And here's the replay of our test battle: Link
That battle confuses me...
Who is this... Wursti person? Some videos would definitely be nice.
In the meantime, I borrowed Photoshop from a friend and started fiddling with it.
Here's what I came up with so far:
Nevermind...
There'll be more to come. And if you'd like a personalised one I could do that.
In the meantime, I'd like any screenshots you can throw at me. With mighty charges, furious clashes, fearsome fighting... anything as long as it has Roman, Hellenic units or (especially) both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiuWcv-Rp5M by Wurstiworks
thats pretty cool Burebista
It seems to me we have 4 roman and 6 greek generals. If anyone would chance side we'd be even.
Nice sig you cooked up there, Burebista, though there is a spelling mistake that's quite striking. Hellenes is written as ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ in Greek, the second 'e' is a long one, also named 'eta'. The rest are plain epsilons.
Maion
Here's a screenshot:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
:whip: Stop, in the name of Rome!
Btw, one rule of the tournament obviously is that the hellenic generals need to use phalanxes. But as to the koinon hellenon, do hoplite phalanxes count or just the ones that have the "can form a phalanx" ability?
:laugh4::laugh4:.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexanderthegreater
Now thats a good one:thumbsup:
I was playing as the greeks taking rhegion in that screenshot. I seriously lold when seeing that guy blocking my way.
Then i ordered my scythian and kretan archers take him down.
I suggest you post that one in the screenshot competition, I'd definitely vote for you. O.oQuote:
Originally Posted by alexanderthegreater
I agree with this for the most part, although I'd impose stricter controls on the late Alexandrian army, like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios
Late Alexandrian:
2 Argyraspides, 2 Pezhetairoi, 3 levy.
1 Hypaspist unit, 1 Thracian peltasts and 1 Agrianian unit min.
I may include 1 Illyrian peltast unit as well, if they exist in EB.
I guess a regular peltast unit could fill the unit gap on that one.
Min 1 - Max 2 Companions, Min 1 - Max 2 Thessalians.
Min 1 Cretan archers.
The last four slots should be filled with League of Corinth (Southern Greek) troops, of various stripe.
Hoplites mostly, though I'd also place some medium cavalry in there for accuracy as I'll explain*.
If my reading of JR Hamilton's introduction to Arrian's Campaigns of Alexander is correct, then that should present the most realistic Alexandrian army.
Though the cavalry is still disproportionately large if the max is used... By a factor of two.
Hamilton states that when Alexander crossed the Hellespont, he had 30-43 thousand infantry (including ranged) and 4-5 thousand cavalry. The proportion would have stayed the same until Alexander dismissed his Thessalians in Media, and Persian melee/horse archer battalions were formed.
The proportion between Companian and Thessalian cavalry is stated as exactly equal at 1,800 each, with the League cavalry making up the rest*.
I think this is wayyyy to strict, we have to allow some creativity to the generals and we don't want every matchup to be the same. I would say:Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishHitman
Min 6 phalanx/legionaires
Max 4 cavalry
Max 4 missile
Max 1 ele/art
No upgrades in armor or exp
with about 30 000 mnai max - thats more than enough to have about 16 units - which seems like the right army size
We're talking about Macedonia, not AS.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexanderthegreater
So Eles are out.
I was suggesting an (semi-)accurate unit roster, it doesn't have to be adopted.
That said, I'd use that roster anyway, it's very flexible in terms of what you can do with it.
What about post marian troops? Post marian elite light infantry are always game changers in my games, and I use them extensively. They just mow down enemy cavalry like nobody's business.
Nice; has anyone else seen the (TES: Oblivion) Imperial Legion spoof?Quote:
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Burebista
Personally, I was thinking of something more along the lines of...
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Drat, drat... triple drat! I knew there was a mistake in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios
I'll get right on it. Thank you, Maion!
And as for the unit roster limitations... think of them more as guidelines than actual rules. That's all I'm saying.
I should have the results from the rule-voting soon. Stay tuned.
Can you tell the jury to have a look at my idea?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burebista
And perhaps get a Romani player to come up with a similar roster for the Romans?
We all read the thread, so your suggestions are always recorded and properly discussed.
Again, I have to thank you all for your input, you've all contributed so much to this project.
And here's the (corrected) signature as a thanks to all of you:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../Clash_sig.jpg
I'm sorry about the first one, I'd seen ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ somewhere but instead of using the traditional c&p I transcribed it and thus the error. Thanks again, Maion, for the correction: :balloon3: for you for all the continued support, and :balloon3: to all the members of the jury: HunGeneral, Tolg and Tribunus Claudius Marcellus for all their effort and help.
By the end of the week we should have the complete rulebook sorted out and I will post it on the first page of the thread as soon as we're done.
All that's left now is to advertise and gain some popularity... I'm sorry you have to make do with my Photoshop skills (or lack thereof) for now, and I'll appreciate all the help with screenies and anyway you can.
By the way, Alex, that one's hilarious!
Ah cheers, Burebista—It's been a rotten sort of day, so that really means something. Glad you could overlook the natty white borders, too.
Damn it, I'm really keen to participate in the tournament, but university activities are more likely a priority, unfortunately. Another factor would be that I'm currently engaged in a 1.1 Qarthadastim campaign (hey, if the Romani versus Hellenes matches go well, is there a chance of having a similar versus Carthage tournament in the future? I know something of the type has been suggested, I would just like to publicly announce my support for such an enterprise and could it please permit Carthage oh please oh please etc.); to say nothing of my poor general ability at making tactical decisions in real-time (or against human adversaries, or using Roman or Hellenic armies).
Anyway, I realise that I haven't contributed to this thread until now, and I just thought I'd chip in to at least say it looks like a bloody terrific idea and I hope it goes well.
You're most welcome for the help and thanks for the balloon as well:beam: I'll add it to my sig ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burebista
EDIT: Have you considered my suggestion of requesting the creation of a sub-forum specifically for this tournament? I believe this would make things easier, so no messing too much with the EB fora.
Maion
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Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios
We discussed it and everyone seemed to be favor of it (In fact I don't think that we're gonna have much of an other choice if we're really gonna turn this into a monthly thing), the only problem is that we don't really know how to approach this topic with the forum administration. (Or at least I don't and nobody else has made any suggestions despite me asking for them).
One of the reasons for making the sigs is to increase popularity of the tournament and thus our chances to actually get one if we ask for it.
If you have any other ideas please tell us about them.
Maybe it would be better to have a whole subforum dedicated to EB multiplayer, in which this tournement would also be.
And maybe we could do a all faction tournament after this one? Putting Historical armies from all factions against eachother. (Also there is a EB preview which focusses on Historical formations, and in Historical battles you can also get a idea about it from some battles)
Id love a subforum for EB multiplayer. Could be useful not only for tournaments but also for just finding ppl to match up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phalanx300
A subforum would be really good.
Nice signature you made Burebista:2thumbsup: and thanks for the baloon.
Here have one for it and for starting this whole concept: :balloon2:
I might join as the romani or ther Hellenes. The problem is that my fraps only works for 30 secs. and I have never used this recording stuff before so you guys i guess have 3 options for me.
a) teach me how to use the fraps/ other recording stuff
b) excuse me for not having a recording
c) (i would hate this 1) don't let me in
and btw a :balloon2: for burebista for an exellent, spectacular, and amazing idea!!!:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::smash::smash::smash:
Edit: yeah maybe i over did it
Wow, I'm overwhelmed... thanks for all the balloons!
And, Nameless Dude... all the jury needs from participants is the replay file (you have the option of saving the recording of a battle after you finish it), then we can handle recordings should we choose to make a video, or screenshots for an AAR of sorts.
The Replay file will be universally available and posted on the thread mainpage (or on a separate therad if we get the sub-forum).
And, of course, you are more than welcome to join!
Would it be ok if I asked you to join as a Roman?
i'm free to play online now, would anyone want to do a test run?
Sure. EBv1.2 with fixes and no mods?
yep. are you still available?
EDIT: I have a server up if anyone wants to join
All this discussion on version and fixes is confusing me a bit.
Now what will we especially need for this tournament:
Europa Barbarorum Patched all the way to EB1.2,
The EB1.2 Fixes
No modified files for multiplayer
Is this all or will we need some more things?:sweatdrop:
We have reached a decision on the version to be used. It's vanilla EB 1.2 with all official fixes.
No additional fixes or minimods of any sort.
Most of the other issues are still in dispute with a solution to be reached (hopefully) soon.
In the meantime, I encourage you all to have some online battles of your own (in Legion vs. Phalanx style) and, if possible, to give us the replays so we may see the results and research the issue further.
potocello u still have ur server up?
anyone available right now?
I would like a multiplayer game right now:2thumbsup:.
Im hosting a server right now. Plz join
Ok I´m coming, does take a while for EB to start up though.
Don't forget to upload your replays! :beam:
Oh, and take some pretty screenies!
Im having compatibility issues again! :wall:
Strangely I have EBv1.2 vanilla with fixes and never installed anything else, never changed anything. Phalanx300 that tried to join me did modify somthing so that sparta had no walls (hes changing that back now) but since this is the third time i have compatibility issues im getting suspicious.
Im no expert, anyone now anything I might have don wrong?
EDIT:
Ive been checking my software information, and apparantly my computer claims that I have EB installed over RTW1.3 instead of 1.5.
So im gonna uninstall everything then reinstall it all again- over 1.5.
Hopefully that will do it, if it works i may be playing tomorrow.
If not im afraid my participation in this tournament will be in the balance.
Hey guys, me and Tolg are playing right now via Hamachi. The server is Europa Barbarorum and the password is greecevsrome
Tolg is uploading some replays, i will upload mine later. Tolg won twice :( Rome:2 Greece: 0
Sorry Greece.
What version is your RTW? It should be 1.5. I don't know if this is the issue thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by alexanderthegreater