No, it just means we habor less hate then you. Evidence: Who started both WWs? Germany. Who ended both WWs? AMERICA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
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No, it just means we habor less hate then you. Evidence: Who started both WWs? Germany. Who ended both WWs? AMERICA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
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Originally Posted by Strike For The South
INCOMING!!!!
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I'll give you a three out of four, and a bonus for four out of five on the conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Uhm.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Back to school for you, SFTS ~;)
America isn't that old, America is owned by the Dutch, didn't you know? Kinda losing it to the Chinese but we can bankrupt you with the snap of a finger :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
[Luso-Dutch colonial rivalry]The only thing the Dutch owned was Sri Lanka, Taiwan and Indonesia. >__>[/Luso-Dutch colonial rivalry]
The former-most was also owned by Portugal and Britain.
They could have had australia, but it wasn't good enough for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpBY...ature=related# Unless that was all a charade...
“No, it just means we habor less hate then you. Evidence: Who started both WWs? Germany. Who ended both WWs? AMERICA. “ :2thumbsup:
This doesn’t speak well for your system of education.:laugh4:
Read: Sarajevo, Gavrilo Princip, about WW1.
About the end, well, read all the campaign, and where exactly and when, the US forces were engaged...:book:
About WW2 the Germans did started it. But just for fun have a look of where the Red Army was in June 1944, and examine the D-Day in Normandy with the Russian massive offensive at the same period. You will find it interesting.
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IMO, the spy who told Stalin that the Japanese was planning to attack the US instead of Siberia won us WW2...Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenus
Princip? Sounds like a pansy Frenchman. Figures, they always need us to clean up there messes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenus
The 20th century was about two things. America defending the rest of the wrold from Germany and America defending the rest of the wrold from the USSR.
Boom.
Agreed. And the 21st century will be about two things as well, America defending the rest of the world from Iraq, and America defending the rest of the world from Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
The first one is almost finished :yes:
We might actually have time to relax this century! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
/AMERICAFIVE (like a high five BUT AWESOME)
That must mean you are from Amsterdam. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
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Originally Posted by Fragony
No he's talking about being financially wrapped so closely around each other it may get uncomfortable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
Although... (according to some Wikipedia article) owing $800+ billion to China and another $700+ billion to Japan may be rather more uncomfortable. That's actually less than 50% of the US' public debt btw.
Which means that the 21st century will either witness the USA pay vast sums of money to 3rd parties or file for bankruptcy. At the rate they're going by 2019 their total debt will be 100% of their GDP...
“Princip? Sounds like a pansy Frenchman. Figures, they always need us to clean up there messes.
The 20th century was about two things. America defending the rest of the wrold from Germany and America defending the rest of the wrold from the USSR.
Boom.” :2thumbsup:
I wish our class of History would have been as simple…
:yes:Mine said WW1 USA try to stay out at all cost but have no choice because attack of boat and Zimmerman telegram, WW2 USA try to stay out at all cost but have no choice because attack of Pearl Harbour.
So to take a parallel of the early years of the 20 century it was about Britain defending the world and the rest of the century from Iraq in the Arab Revolt of 1920 and the Anglo Invasion of Iran to counter the Russian invasion of 1911.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
The sinking of the Lusitania among other things off Ireland was a boon to Britain in its attempt to get US in the war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenus
"The sinking of the Lusitania among other things off Ireland was a boon to Britain in its attempt to get US in the war". Yeap. It was needed because the USA were so keen to rescue the world...:beam:
For some reason the image of Scrappy Doo came into my head there :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenus
My dear Texan, WW1 was started by a Serbian nationalist who obviously thought murder would solve his problems. You can attest some fault to the Austrian royals who thought the murder of one would justify the murder of many but then you still haven't arrived at Germany and all the other bloodhounds who eagerly marched to the front(or sent others) to show the other nations who's boss.
Nationalism lead to this, it's just as dangerous in the US as it is in Europe and while Iraq arguably should have been freed from Saddam, you went in under a wrong pretext(the nonexistant WMDs) and could have already done the job in 1991 but back then it somehow didn't suit you. Oh yeah, you also started the war the second time around, how you saved anyone from those nonexistant WMDs is a mystery to me. Yeah look, if you were out to save the world then why didn't you dismantle the Iraqi regime when they killed several thousand Kurds or when they killed the Kuwaitis?
And as has been said, the US tried to stay out of WW2 as long as they could, you didn't even prepare for a war, your airforce was almost in shambles when it began.
America usually saves it's own interests, something nationalistic people expect every country to do of course and it does actually give some good results sometimes but you won't get a blanket check as saviour of the world from me anytime soon, last time a german gave a blanket check to someone we got drawn into WW1. :no:
Typical of you Frenchmen. We save you and yall are ungreatful. Whatever, go eat your snails and make love to women whom don't shave.
Does anyone remember how round the time Dubya was going for election and after he got elected reams of newspaper print were written about how America was about to retreat into one of its period of isolationism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Bush even talked of reevaluating overseas commitments I remember reading a piece over here about how even NATO was at stake even.
Gas how events turned out he ended up more interventionist than Clinton who he castigated as been an interventionist :beam:
It is really of no use to discuss what/who started world war one, even now it's unclear there are sooooooooooooooooo many theories.
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Originally Posted by Strike For The South
For you Strike
That Englishman speaks truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy
Germany ran out of moustache gel and got angry France still had some.Quote:
It is really of no use to discuss what/who started world war one, even now it's unclear there are sooooooooooooooooo many theories.
Ohh the ultimate insult for an Irishman be wary we Irish hold our Grudges a long time just ask the English we let the have the use of the place for for 800 yrs Dylan on about EnglishQuote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Don't forget the Monocle shortage in GermanyQuote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
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Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy
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Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy
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Originally Posted by Husar
I thought it had been generally agreed that the Illuminati started both and all wars to hide the Holy Grail from the Freemasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
(or have I been channelling Dan Brown again? :confused:)
This is wrong though. I've played Axis and Allies a few times, the US starts with a fair number of planes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
A rather useless "fix", don't you think? Husar already had your argument in that sentence, all you did was make it unreadable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
....and the 19th century was about Texas twice starting and losing a war with Mexico, and twice being rescued by Yanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strikey
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“Typical of you Frenchmen. We save you and yall are ungreatful. Whatever, go eat your snails and make love to women whom don't shave.”
I like when people starts to use this kind of things. :2thumbsup:
They have nothing else to say…
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You've remained far to civil for this debate. In fact the lot of you have. The backroom just isn't the rough and tumble place it used to be:shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenus
In all honesty I'm a francophile of the highest order and would like nothing more than to stay in Paris for an extended period of time.
I consider Italy and France to be the hieght of food, culture, and women. If Texas wasn't in America I'd apply for citzenship in a heartbeat
2006 called, they want there joke back :kiss2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat, in more ways than 1 (If you know what I mean!)
Why, thank you! That is very kind and most flattering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
However, let's not get caried away. Your post, I'm afraid, is a bit telling of your lack of foreign travel, and of too much glitzy foreign propaganda about dazzling Europe by nationalist internet posters. Reality, unfortunately, is rather less glamorous than you may think: there isn't altogether all that much great food, culture and women in Italy. :book:
Nonsense! The food and culture was great!Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
But the women there should learn english, or heck, just any second language. How are we supposed to communicate with them? Pull our pants down and hope they take the hint?
I dunno man I stayed in Sorrento for a wedding two weeks ago up in Positanau or is it down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
If having no food was the price for the weather thats fine with me.
Sure as a visitor we just talked slow and loudly anyway and complained it was all foreign food anyway.
Talking slow and loudly probaly solve that one tooQuote:
I think again my solution from the old evil empire works again talk slow and loudly and walk around very conspicously in the noon day sunBut the women there should learn english, or heck, just any second language. How are we supposed to communicate with them? Pull our pants down and hope they take the hint?
That seems to be the standard course of action Italian men take, yes. :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
I've never been to italy, but I'm convinced we have better Pizza here.
USA is bigger in every way more toppings larger size and probably better too in most places a bit like all those Indians in Birmingham creating all the curry disshes we eat.
Over in Italy it was small and dear twas bereft of toppings and yes I know that real odeal has less toppings but dammit I want a feed not art
Bloody expensive and not too quick about it either and he expected a tip too nah the chicago stuff I had few years back was nicer.
You're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I've read a rather extensive book about how airplanes were scarce, mostly outdated and not working, especially in the pacific theatre when the war started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
And Banquo, I tried to say that in the second part of the sentence about the nationalists, I do however think that here in the EU we do at least try to further our common interests. It's not really always working yet and especially the english would rather conquer all of europe than show some team spirit and sportsmanship but I hope we'll get there eventually. :smash:
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But the women there should learn english, or heck, just any second language. How are we supposed to communicate with them? Pull our pants down and hope they take the hint?
In their defense, the younger generation of italians, specially in urban areas, speak good english.
SFTS, your historical knowledge is... :thumbsdown:
so is your humorQuote:
Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV
I don't know, that Chicago deep dish...Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Carmen's stuffed spinach deep-dish pizza. The closest we humans may come to Heaven.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
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Neither of you have the slightest idea of what you're talking about, it seems...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
The Italians make the best pizza. No question. The greeks are a close second.
Americans have an obsession with calling anything that has pie crust, tomato sauce, cheese, and various ingredients Pizza. Which in fact, is not pizza at all, but it still doesn't mean it isn't :daisy: awesome. Real Italian Pizza is just a glorified shepherds pie, imo. It isn't bad, by any means at all, but we've annexed the term here for own diabolical and delicious ends, the rest will just have to get over the fact. Like China refuses to give up Tibet on basis that it's rightfully Chinese Territory, us Americans refuse to give up the term Pizza, not because we invented it, but because it was there for the taking.
So where does Melbourne/Sydney rank then...Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Everybody knows the best pizza's are made in the Netherlands, at O'pazzo in Rotterdam to be more precise.
http://www.opazzo.nl/
Italian Pizza is just pizza with no crust and covered in tomato, mozerella and bazil. Everything they serve has those 3 indegredients.
In great contrast with the wealth of variety that is having a crust, tomatoe, and cheese. Oh yeah, sometimes they use barbeque-sause :wall:
A good pizza is a perfection in it's simplicity. A good pizzaria would use mozarella and pecorino.
That would be the best O'pazzo's, not the best pizza's unless you mean the best pizzas. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Looks like a nice restaurant though. :2thumbsup:
Also a big crust is just like eating cookies/bread, if I want cookies I'll buy cookies/bread, some people seem to care more about the crust than the actual pizza. :no:
The pizza's at O'pazzo are great, it's a fun restaurant give it a visit when in Rotterdam. The food isn't as good as they pretend it to be, brand over quality it's one of these 'hip' places where people wait in line to wait in line (impossible to make a reservation), but they do have truly great pizza's. As for American pizza's, in O'pazzo they kinda serve them, because the thick crust comes from central Italy and in O'Pazzo you get the central Italy style. That overly thin crust we regard as 'Italian pizza' is served everywhere but Italy really.
This is what pizza should look like:
https://img294.imageshack.us/img294/...johnspizza.jpg
I mean, what these things on this "pizza", leaves? And are those hunks of tomato? It looks like those nasty "gourmet" pizza's you can get here.
https://img294.imageshack.us/img294/...zaaltaglio.jpg
Saying that american pizza isn't real pizza is like saying that the ford model-t is the only "real" car. It's called progress.
As objective evidence, I point out that America is the fattest country in the world.
[QUOTE=Sasaki Kojiro;2340852]]https://img294.imageshack.us/img294/...zaaltaglio.jpg
but that is not pizza
Suddenly I understand why americans are fat, yet again.
And no, it's not because it looks good....
EDIT: Oh, and just to clarify, none of the above should be classified as "real pizza". And no, Italian pizza don't just consist of 3 things. I spent the entire week during my last trip to Italy trying to find a pizza with just ham, cheese and mushrooms(and tomato sauce, some spice and olive oil at the top though, of course), and failed. There was always something else on it... Not that it was bad, of course.
Don't you see the inanity of classifying some pizza as "real pizza" and others as not real?
True its like when you go to a fancy restaurent and they refuse to give you a little ice cream for a kid cos its not on the menu todayQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
This is not a "real post", me and my snobby friends all agree :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy
Well it is a real post, but sorry to say it's a bad post, it lacks the ingredients that would make a good post. In the end everything is like pizza, see?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I reserve the right to be as snobbish as I please when talking to inferior anglo-saxons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Been there, done that, and it's somewhere near Chicago. Though in all fairness, Italians did have a huge hand in American pizza as well. Call it an update.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Created a new thread for the pizza debate.
I think it's a bit too late for that. This thread is thoroughly tainted with cheese and pepperoni.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
To keep the pizza discussion backroom...
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You stole my line and I want it backQuote:
Originally Posted by drone
holland is not at all such a free country as most people believe it to be...
Because it's a province, not a country? :clown: