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I dislike your posts. I dislike them a lot. And I dislike your pacts. And your flip-flopping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Can you elaborate on anything you've said?
Either way, I'm breaking your "townie pact" to Fold; Wager 20: Sasaki and your post is the "thoroughly explained reason".
3 hours remain.
Your wager seemed off to me and I thought maybe your discussion of mafia strategy in this game was coming from a mafia point of view. Stood out more than most people who have just posted a wager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
Do you think split is scum? With the self vote and all? Then my saving him to vote the scummiest person is 100% a good play for town.
This is the townie pact yeah? Now what pact did I break? I didn't vote to save myself, you just did. And the problem with this setup is that scum can ALMOST ALWAYS vote to save themselves. If we allow people to vote to save themselves, scum will always do it, or else we will have to waste all of our credits putting big wagers on people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
A policy lynch is now required on jolt for the self-saving wager.
Arpeggiate is either scum with Jolt, or town if jolt is town (don't see scum wasting credits like that). You're a bit too angrily defensive of jolt.
My own townie pact prevents me from voting to save myself, so:
fold
cause I don't remember the word for increase
Wager 100 credits: Jolt
I will die if he's town. I suppose this is open to mafia exploitation too--but I think mafia would leave themself with enough credits to live if they could.
increase:
Raise ____ credits
No problem, this works too. Just FYI and stuff. :bow:
Which pacts did I break? You are lying...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
What do you dislike about them (posts and pacts)? Can you elaborate? You object to me moving my vote around looking for scum?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
If you say you are breaking the pact, that means you don't think you have a thoroughly explained reason.Quote:
Either way, I'm breaking your "townie pact" to Fold; Wager 20: Sasaki and your post is the "thoroughly explained reason".
Why do you object to someone having to give a good reason for putting the LYNCHING wager on someone? Do you like random votes that lynch someone?
Do you have a theory where split and me are scumbuddies? Cause if I am scum, that would be the only reason to switch out and save him correct? If so, why do you think split is scummy?
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15 minutes to go, this will be interesting!
fold
wager 1 credit: Jolt
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Sasaki, you're crazy you know.... You could wager around 60 instead of 100, that would still put Jolt in the lead, but you would survive if you're wrong.
The reason he's not doing that is so he doesn't survive if he's wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
If Jolt is anything but mafia, Sasaki dies and we, as the town, don't have to deal with someone who voted with 90 credits at the last minute to save themselves.
CR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
This is textbook of what you are doing so far. Besides you post this, half an hour before the round's up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
After you posted this "townie pact":Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Besides, your entire argument lies on the fact that I waged 2 credits instead of one and that I'm actually discussing how the Mafia might proceed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Too many coincidences and too much scummy behaviour.
Add 55 credits on Sasaki Kojiro
I'm certainly not gonna stand here and get lynched, even more so under the arguments you presented. I would suppose that will also make Beskar and any other person who discussed it (including you! :o), my Mafia buddies?
2 minutes.
fold.
Wager 25 credits on Jolt.
Scumtastic.
CR
But I already explained why we can't have people wagering to save themselves :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
The mafia will still do it, even with the rule. Because it benefits them, even if they are confirmed mafia afterwards. But if town never does it, than we KNOW that anyone who does it is mafia.
Then there is the chance of the mafioso's buddy saving him. That is why anyone doing the saving has to give a thoroughly explained reason--they at least have to have some plausible sounding bs that we can judge.
Unnecessary! Save your credits!Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Well you have a decent chance of getting them back anyway I guess. And he could be lurking for a last minute vote.
Reduce 20 credits on Jolt.
CR
Round is over. Writeup commencing.
Crazed Rabbit, your wager change was late. Round ended at 1159.
DOH! I didn't even see jolts 55 credit wager when I said that. But he is still ahead by one isn't he?
edit:I think it's a tie.
I think it's Jolt 106, Sasaki 106 ...
:laugh4:
Fine by me. Though I still have no idea if Jolt or Sasaki is in the lead. With my extra credits, it should be Jolt right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
CR
Sorry CR, when I told you to save your credits I hadn't seen that jolt had made that ridiculous post...
According to MY tally, it's Jolt due to your wager. And because that last wager change does not count, as I said I am merciless with the clock. :beam:
Jolt: 126 (100 Sasaki Kojiro) (1, Romanic) (25, Crazed Rabbit)
Sasaki Kojiro: 106 (1, Seon) (85, Jolt) (20, Arpeg)
Splitpersonality: 10 (1, Pinman) (5, Secura) (4: Split)
Skooma Addict: 13 (10, Jht) (3, Double A)
Crazed Rabbit: 10 (10, Skooma)
Pinman: 10 (5, Diana) (5, civplayah)
Double A: 5 (5, Greyblades)
JHT: 1 (1, Beskar) [DID NOT FOLD]
DID NOT WAGER: 1 (Cultured Drizzt Fan)
Please correct any mistakes.
EDIT: Ok I am fixing mistakes. :clown:
Bye Sasaki!
Ha! Procrastination wins again!
Though from the votes you've tallied ATPG, wouldn't Sasaki only have 106 votes on him?
CR
Your change was after the deadline thankfully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Edit: Derp. Nevermind, wrong thing.
You're right, CR, he only has 106. I made a couple errors.
just let me do my writeup. :clown:
I don't like that aggressive strategy, vote 100 and die if your lynch target was wrong. Sure it may look pro-town to sacrifice yourself like this, but you're also throwing away 100 credits. If the mafia is sitting back with low wagers, they're losing peanuts while we're losing hundreds of credits.
For example, in this case if Jolt is townie, we could end losing 250+ credits while the mafia would lose small (3-10). Considering they will kill once of us each night (another ~90 down), they will fill the gap real quick unless we lynch the right guys.
Besides, he already gave the Mafia a huge help. Killed himself and me in one go while the Mafia kick back and relax. Nice job.
It's necessary in this case--but you are correct it could be a huge waste of credits, which is exactly why we CAN'T have townies dropping big credits to save themselves. It's a team effort and people who do that are just going to get lynched the next day anyway. I think jolt is smart enough town to realize that...soooQuote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
What's the tie procedure pizza?
It's necessary? You dropped 100 on a townie based on the fact that I was actually discussing what the Mafia could do? I was certainly not gonna die by such stupid argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
EDIT: Dropped 100 within 30 minutes to deadline. Which, considering you already killed yourself, and therefore are not Mafia, perplexes me even more.
And yet you dropped 55 right before deadline to save yourself by lynching me, even after the 100 credit wager :idea2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
If I'm a townie, why the :daisy: would I be lynched on day 1 just because you wanted to kill someone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
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Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 3rd, 1983.
End of Day One
Michael watched the betting with great interest. He didn't expect to see such heavy betting so early in the day. The sheer number of bet changes boggled the mind. But he kept careful track, and made corrections with his pencil. By the end of the day, it was time for betting to end. And then, everyone showed their cards. They started with the low bets first, to build the tension.
Michael: Beskar, what do you got?
Beskar: *sheepishly* I got nothing. My highest card is a 10. What a mess. Good thing I didn't bet much.
Greyblades: two, three, three, four, five. Is that a straight?
Michael: No, that's a pair of threes.
Diana Abnoba: I got a pair of fives.
Skooma Addict: MUST.... HAVE.... MORE.... SKOOMA!!! *eats his own cards*
Michael: Okay, I'm not going to tell you again, if you eat your cards, you're disqualified.
Secura: Jacks.
Johnhughthom: Tens and threes!
Jolt: Okay boys, read 'em and weep. I got a full house, aces over ladies. So, Sasaki, let's see your cards.
Crazed Rabbit: Oh boy. Maybe I shouldn't have made this wager. Can I take some of it back?
Michael: No. *raises tommy gun* Leave those chips where they're at, rabbit. :smoking:
Sasaki Kojiro: Oh no... why did I wager all of my chips? I'm going to be broke....
Michael points the gun at Sasaki
Michael: That's a real shame. I liked you, Sasaki. But it seems your luck has just run out.
Jolt: I'll just be taking my chips now...
Sasaki Kojiro: Hey, wait a minute, are aces high or low in this game?
Michael: Both. It's poker.
Sasaki Kojiro: POKER??? I thought we were playing Gin Rummy!
Michael: Gin Rummy has two players. What are you, a maroon?
Sasaki Kojiro: Well in that case I think I have a straight, or a flush. Whichever is better. I have a King, a queen, a jack, an ace, and a ten, all spades. Does a flush beat a full house?
Jolt: WHAT YOU SAY???
Crazed Rabbit: It looks like someone set us up the bomb. :laugh4:
Michael: Royal Straight Flush. That might explain why he bet his life savings. And we have a winner. Collect your chips, Sasaki.
Jolt: But.... but.... this is impossible!
Michael: Shut up, Tony. You just lost me a lot of money. I've had my fill of your incompetence. They're supposed to lose money, NOT the house.
Jolt: I had a full house!
Michael: Yeah? Well does a full house beat a royal straight flush, Tony?
Jolt: ....In Italy it does!
Romanic: No it doesn't, and I should know. Hand over the chips, Valerio.
Michael: This is the last straw Tony.
Jolt: Wait, I still gots some chips left, I can win it back! I can win it back!
*Michael pointed the gun at Tony, and opened fire, filling his body with hot, searing lead, and knocking him out of his chair.*
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Michael: You're fired.
With that, Michael slid the chips back over to the winner, Sasaki. Feeling generous, he also let Romanic and Crazed Rabbit keep their chips. Then, he pocketed the rest. "Cover charge" he muttered. Since Michael was the man with the gun, no one protested the surcharge....
Tally
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Slices remaining: (16/17)
ArpeggiateTHIS
Beskar
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Greyblades
Johnhughthom
Pinman
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Seon
Skooma Addict
Splitpersonality
Sleeping with the fishes: (1/17)
Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)
NOTICE:
Those who bet on Jolt have their wagers returned to them, and still have 100 credits. Those who did not bet on Jolt have all lost their wagers, or in CDF's case, their 1 credit forced ante.
Night One begins now. Round ends Friday, August 6th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA. This gives everyone 24 hours to send in night actions if they so choose.
~:pimp:
AWESOME.
CR
:party3:
*sighs* Jolt almost convinced me that he was townie! :laugh4:
Oh, sorry:
Tie procedure is that those who are involved in the tie (if 2) throw rock, paper, or scissors. Standard for all my games in the past year, methinks. The writeup will show them fighting to the death with knives. The credits will be removed from everyone unless a mafia got stabbed to death, same as usual.
If there are three or more tied, no one gets lynched because I don't reward indecisiveness. That means everyone's credits are lost that round.
:beam: Jolt was scum telling everywhere.
Peggie and Seon are obviously his mafia partners.
I'm hungry...
Who's Peggy?
Good call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
EDIT: And I'm supposed to be peggie, heh. Don't know what Beskie's talkin' bout though.
Yes.... and you're next! :smug2:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
You didn't answer my questions.
By that reasoning you'd be third in line too; you questioned Sasaki just as I did, only I made more of a fuss about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
EDIT: And Sasaki, you think I spend ALL day on the org? Most of it, but not all of it.
Says the guy who jumped in bed with Jolt.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
How was I supposed to know that Jolt was the scummy one? Sasaki gave no reason whatsoever for his wager and I took it to be scummy. All I did was call him out on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Either way, I was wrong. No harm done though, eh?
I questioned Sasaki? ....hmm, I guess you can call that questioning if you talk about my thoughts on the "do or die" strategy...Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
But I didn't move my vote to Sasaki when he was trying to lynch a mafiosi, and I didn't say things like that to him:
No... really, we're not in the same boat. :laugh4:Quote:
I dislike your posts. I dislike them a lot. And I dislike your pacts. And your flip-flopping.
Again you refer to Jolt as though we knew he was mafia. Perhaps you did, but that's not the case for everybody else. You were quick to ditch the Sasaki-hunters as soon as you found out that Jolt was actually scummy and you didn't even back up your claims with any coins. I, on the other hand, thought he was our best lead and decided to be upfront in my allegations. More fool me for being direct rather than hiding behind the scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
You haven't answered my questions.
Isn't it obvious? You switched your "random" vote twice last round and hadn't even given reasons other than "Jolt is scummy" and "Split seems scummy". You were the first to throw accusations around and the first to try and take control of the wagers with your pacts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I'm sorry, Sasaki, but I will not have a McCarthy-esque figure injecting panic and limitations into who I wager for.
I was never with the er... Sasaki-Hunters, so I never ditched them. And I voted for Jolt, a whole credit! :laugh4: Okay, it may not be a lot, but at one point it looked like we had a 106-106 tie and my credit could have made a big difference. Stop trying to find excuses to make me look as bad as you, I'm clearly not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
And answer Sasaki's questions, he's been waiting all day! :smash:
First fold. Why are you betting all of your credits? It's obvious that you cannot carry this threat through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Isn't that exactly what you've done?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Second change. Not even an explanation: "I'll tell you why I tried lynching him AFTER HE'S DEAD." Scummy as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Pact number one. I bet you'd do it if you were about to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Checking when the deadline is in case you need to do a last-minute switch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
This was the killer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Self-votes are always scummy. I'd have voted split were it not for this.
Why is Jolt the scummiest? Again, a lot of accusation without any evidence.
Yet ANOTHER pact that was just begging to be broken, so I broke it. If he was/is scum, with this he'd have secured that neither of his buddies would be lynched. This pact was basically instilling fear to gain control of the wagers. Any rational townie would stand up to it, and I did.
EDIT: So yeah, remind me why I'm in the spotlight here and not him? I'm the one that has acted rationally throughout the first round, not him. I used the information I had and drew a conclusion, albeit a wrong one and for that I humbly apologise :bow:.
Well caught Sasaki.
I tip my hat to you. :bow:
Allow Skooma to interject for a brief moment...Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
1. Yes he can. The tally clearly shows he did carry out betting all his credits with a respectable level of conviction, granted it was against a different target.
2. No, it isn't. As stated previously, he carried out his vote of all of his credits.
3. I'll give you that one. :laugh4:
4. Speculative. You don't know what he would or would not do and since we know he was willing to die for a vote he believed to be accurate, I feel the benefit of the doubt should slide ever so slightly to his favor.
5. Again, speculation. There's no reason for a townie not to watch the deadline in a game that allows it to be manipulated by the mafia this easily.
6. Your speculative claim does have some validity, but you're negating the key words that Sasaki intentionally left in there "without giving a thoroughly explained reason". To me, it came off a little demanding but the reasoning behind it stated isn't necessarily anti-town.
I'm not sure if your post is a defense of yourself, or an assault on Sasaki. In either case, you used a lot of speculation which no one could possible know that answers to, not to mention, your quotes of his aren't in chronological order, giving a slightly false impression of the way the round progressed and ultimately climaxed.
I won't lie to you, I'm quite insane, but with my limited sanity it would appear to me that you're trying to materialize something that just isn't there, and the thing that eats away at me the most, is that I have no idea what it is you wish to gain by smearing the name of someone who single-handedly killed a mafia on day one.
Stupid multi-quote. No manipulation intended there.
I'm not smearing anybody. I didn't want to drag anything up because it's obvious that I was wrong in the first round. Completely wrong. I only pulled all of this up because Sasaki demanded his answers to why i voted him. The posts above are purely the thoughts that passed through my head as I voted and are purely defensive.
You have answered my questions.
That was.
Wow.
Wow.
:o
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Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 3rd, 1983.
Night One
Secura hailed a taxi, ready to go home and give up this entire gambling thing. While she had been excited by the thrill of high stakes betting, there was just too much bloodshed down at Papa Gino's. One thing was for sure, she wouldn't be heading back there anytime soon...
The cab pulled up to the curb and she hopped in. The interior of the vehicle smelled wrong.... but she was too upset to notice.
Secura: 23rd and Maple, please.
The cab driver nodded, and sped off. Just in time, it started to rain. She was pleased not to be standing outside in that. She rested her head against the window and looked out into the darkness, listening to the sound of the windshield wipers and the radio. She felt light-headed, and noticed that the back of the cab was filling with some kind of gas. She tried to roll down her window, and open the door, but it was locked and wouldn't budge. She beat on the window with her fists, but she couldn't break the glass. She was feeling weak, and screamed for the cab driver to pull over. Then everything went black.
______________
The cab drove for many miles, until it reached the bridge. As expected, there was a police blockade, but they waved the cab through after the driver flashed his ID. The cab drove halfway across the bridge and stopped. The cabbie got out, and opened the back door, and lifted Secura out as gently as possible.
Vincenzo: I hate to have to do this to you, doll, but I've got no choice... Boss wants you dead. He's getting tired of waiting for his payment.
The man lifted his silenced weapon, and pointed it directly at Secura's face. He hesitated for a moment.... a long moment. And then he squeezed the trigger.
Vincenzo: Looks like I missed. That's a real shame. But I'm going to pretend I shot you in the face. Let's pretend you don't come back, understand?
The man wrote something down on a card, and shoved the Queen of Hearts card in Secura's jacket pocket. Then he tied a cement block to her foot, quite loosely, and tossed both her and the cement block over the bridge. Secura fell over 150 feet and landed in the water with a very audible thud. Vincenzo looked over the side of the bridge and waited.
Vincenzo: Come on, I didn't tie it that tight. It was all for appearances. Where'd you go?
Disappointed, Vincenzo waited for several long minutes, but didn't see anyone swim back up to the surface. He shook his head, sadly.
Vincenzo: arrivederci, mi amore...
He removed his fedora, and dropped a single rose down into the river. Then he stepped back into his cab, but not before removing the cab sign and replacing it with a Gino's Pizzeria sign.
Vincenzo: It's not personal, it's just business....
Vincenzo muttered to himself, not really believing it for a second. When he reached the police blockade, he tossed them a bag filled with cash, and sped off into the night.
Slices remaining: (15/17)
ArpeggiateTHIS
Beskar
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Greyblades
Johnhughthom
Pinman
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Seon
Skooma Addict
Splitpersonality
Sleeping with the fishes: (2/17)
Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)
Secura- Professional gambler
Day Two begins now. Round ends Sunday, August 8th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA. This gives everyone approximately 47 hours to post and vote.
Killing Secura on Night 1 is sick, whoever did that will hear from her after the game :laugh4:
wager 1 credit: Arpeg
Because of yesterday's behavior.
I guess I should defer to Sasaki's scumdar in future. Didn't he say that Split was scummy?
Wager 5: Splitpersonality.
Could you elaborate, Sasaki?
I would like to hear the argument on myself as well, but that is such a scummy post arpeg :/
Wager 5: Mr THIS
Secura did say she wanted to be killed though. She wanted to be Mafia and when she wasn't...
anyway, Wager 1 Credit: Peggie
I take blame for that. It was my suggestion. :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Wager 10: Arpeg
Wager 10: Arpeg
Wager 3: arpeg
wager 10: arpeg
Wager 25 credits: Beskar.
Third on the bandwagon. Greyblades is worth looking at too; jumps silently on the bandwagon with a wager only very slightly greater than the minimum.
CR
And since when is that bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
heh :beam: interesting day so far.
I thought arpeg came out pretty well from his explanation posts. Not seeing him as mafia at the moment.
So we didn't exactly have a solid case to go on coming into today...that's why I've been holding back to see how it went.
Yesterdays success aside, it's going to be rather tough picking out mafia over just a few posts.
I'm thinking Seon and Skooma are the two scummiest.
Holding off on my wager for now. Can some people shift from arpeg to these two?
Fold:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Wager: 20 Beskar
This is the second time you've wagered 1 coin. You were avid about lynching Arpeg and I pressured him a bit, but now that you have the chance to put your coin on the table you low-ball, again?
Could you explain a bit further your suspicions of me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Wager 3 credits: Seon I don't see the scum all over Arpeg either. I do see it with Seon's vote though.
fold
wager 10: Beskar
how come?Quote:
Originally Posted by civplayah
Alright back and rested up.
Wager 25: Seon
tally.
55 Beskar (CR 25, Skooma 20, civplayah 10)
28 Seon (CDF 25, Diana 3)
20 Arpeg (Seon 10, Split 5, Greyblades 3, Beskar 1, Romanic 1)
5 Split (Arpeg 5)
no wager: Double A, JHT, Pinman, Sasaki
Nah, they won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
I admit that I signed up to this game hoping that I might be one of the mafia for once, because as someone recently pointed out to me, I'm coasting along as a middle-of-the-road townie currently; I'm not too prominent or skilled enough to coast through the game as lynchbait like Pizza or Beskar, nor am I too low-key/lurky to be kept alive by mafia on the off-chance I may not vote or read their posts in any sort of depth.
Essentially, I have no staying power as a townie whatsoever, which makes for increasingly boring games for me and will probably go some way to explaining my dwindling presence outside of The Aeducan Succession.
So, when it didn't transpire, I resigned myself to dying early as per, so I voted with every credit I had in a 'suicide' bid; I later deemed this to be immensely unsporting and retracted with a sorta 'just kill me tonight' plea to the mafia... better to first night me when I've got no enthusiasm for the game whatsoever than for me to get immersed and then be killed.
My thanks to Jolt and his cohorts, my apologies to Pizza, my best wishes to the town. Have fun! :3
Wager 90: Sasaki.
Why not?
Mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Fold; Wager 100 Credits: Crazed Rabbit
:dunce:
Worked for you, now to bag a 2nd mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
FoldQuote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
How sure are you of this?