Askthepizzaguy Mafia [Concluded]

[civplayah]

fold

wager 10: Beskar

[Sasaki Kojiro]

fold

wager 10: Beskar

how come?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Alright back and rested up.

Wager 25: Seon

[Romanic]

tally.

55 Beskar (CR 25, Skooma 20, civplayah 10)
28 Seon (CDF 25, Diana 3)
20 Arpeg (Seon 10, Split 5, Greyblades 3, Beskar 1, Romanic 1)
5 Split (Arpeg 5)

no wager: Double A, JHT, Pinman, Sasaki

[Secura]

Killing Secura on Night 1 is sick, whoever did that will hear from her after the game

Nah, they won't.

I admit that I signed up to this game hoping that I might be one of the mafia for once, because as someone recently pointed out to me, I'm coasting along as a middle-of-the-road townie currently; I'm not too prominent or skilled enough to coast through the game as lynchbait like Pizza or Beskar, nor am I too low-key/lurky to be kept alive by mafia on the off-chance I may not vote or read their posts in any sort of depth.

Essentially, I have no staying power as a townie whatsoever, which makes for increasingly boring games for me and will probably go some way to explaining my dwindling presence outside of The Aeducan Succession.

So, when it didn't transpire, I resigned myself to dying early as per, so I voted with every credit I had in a 'suicide' bid; I later deemed this to be immensely unsporting and retracted with a sorta 'just kill me tonight' plea to the mafia... better to first night me when I've got no enthusiasm for the game whatsoever than for me to get immersed and then be killed.

My thanks to Jolt and his cohorts, my apologies to Pizza, my best wishes to the town. Have fun! :3

[johnhughthom]

Wager 90: Sasaki.

Why not?

[Beskar]

Wager 25 credits: Beskar.

Third on the bandwagon. Greyblades is worth looking at too; jumps silently on the bandwagon with a wager only very slightly greater than the minimum.

CR

Mafia.

Fold; Wager 100 Credits: Crazed Rabbit

[Sasaki Kojiro]

[Beskar]

Worked for you, now to bag a 2nd mafia.

[Skooma Addict]

Mafia.

Fold; Wager 100 Credits: Crazed Rabbit

Fold

How sure are you of this?

[Beskar]

Interesting, why did you fold?

[civplayah]

how come?

So I wouldn't lose my money...

But, now that Crazed Rabbit is in the lead...

fold
wager 20: Crazed Rabbit

[Romanic]

Hey guys, Crazed Rabbit helped to lynch Jolt. What the reasoning here? Do you think he bussed his partner?

fos: civplayah for following blindly on this, supposedly to save credits.

Not so much fos at Beskar, he could be clowning like Beskar sometimes do.

[Beskar]

I would like to point out that Crazed Rabbit is not the mafia, but Civplayah and Skooma jumping off the bandwagon and jumping on one on CR is definitely a real scum sign.

Fold; Wager 26 credits: Civplayah

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'm inclined to agree with Beskar.

Fold.

Wager 10 credits: Civplayah.

CR

[Diana Abnoba]

I agree

Fold

Wager 10 credits: Civplayah

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Interesting, why civplayah and not skooma?

[Beskar]

I find his signature more appealing.

In otherwords, Apples and Pears. They are both viable candidates. They jumped on the one on me when CR did his wager, then I did mine, then they jumped off that bandwagon, but Civplayah jumped onto CR. One thing is certain, they both acted incredibly scummy.

[Diana Abnoba]

For me, Civplayah already had bids on him, he couldn't out bid us as well as Skooma. Next round bid on Skooma. If we put too many bids on several people, the mafia can just out bid us to save themselves or their partners.

[Double A]

True, it'd be too hard to lynch Skooma, especially since he could just put money on someone else.

Wager 25: civplayah

[Sasaki Kojiro]

lol, I think I am still in the lead due to jht's vote.

Should I break the pact

Yes I believe I can do that, extenuating circumstances and all.

wager 80 credits: Seon

Skooma is my next choice, and has a lot of votes, but hmm.

civplayah seems innocent actually

But honestly, despite yesterdays success we are shooting in the dark here. Seon has what 4 posts? But if we make a decent enough effort we can win eventually.

And seon, if you do save yourself you're scum, hmmk? No extenuating circumstances in your case.

greyblades and cdf have been very quiet.

Thought of a kind of gamebreaking strategy...don't think we'll use it though.

[Skooma Addict]

Interesting, why did you fold?

My reason for voting for you were because your wagering was suspiciously small. 1 coin first round, 1 coin this round. I found such small consecutive wagers a bit odd.

[Skooma Addict]

I would like to point out that Crazed Rabbit is not the mafia, but Civplayah and Skooma jumping off the bandwagon and jumping on one on CR is definitely a real scum sign.

Fold; Wager 26 credits: Civplayah

I never voted for CR.


EDIT: Apologies, he was my random vote in the first round. I didn't bandwagon vote him this round as you suggested.

[Skooma Addict]

lol, I think I am still in the lead due to jht's vote.

Should I break the pact

Yes I believe I can do that, extenuating circumstances and all.

wager 80 credits: Seon

Skooma is my next choice, and has a lot of votes, but hmm.

civplayah seems innocent actually

But honestly, despite yesterdays success we are shooting in the dark here. Seon has what 4 posts? But if we make a decent enough effort we can win eventually.

And seon, if you do save yourself you're scum, hmmk? No extenuating circumstances in your case.

greyblades and cdf have been very quiet.

Thought of a kind of gamebreaking strategy...don't think we'll use it though.

You never answered my question as to what exactly I did that looked scummy to you, but that's fine. One way or another, it won't matter after this day phase.

Wager: 90 Seon

That is all of my remaining coins. If I'm not mistaken, that's 195 coin on Seon, outbidding all other wagers. The rest of you can fold your bids and save your coin for when it is most needed as is not the case at the moment. Save your coin. It's much better I contribute all of my worth to take out a prime suspect along with myself, saving town coin this round as well as my subsequent lynch the next. I'm offering two birds with one stone, so conserve your coin and make sure someone is in the thread to make sure no one tries a last minute switch-a-roo to someone else in the morning.

[Seon]

Well, you all will be wasting a lot of money, but whatever, isn't it?

fold. 90 credits on Sasaki.

[Romanic]

Well, you all will be wasting a lot of money, but whatever, isn't it?

fold. 90 credits on Sasaki.

If you are Town, you should not be thinking like that. Your survival as individual is not important and you should make your lynch as costless as possible. Your attitude is very anti-Town here, Seon.

Again, it's suspicious to see big bets on someone who lynched Jolt on Day 1. Of course he could have lynched his partner to gain a lot of favor, and I have no doubt that Sasaki could make this play, but I am not interested to test this theory on Day 2.

Wager 90: Sasaki.

Why not?

JHT, you need to remove this vote now. If it was a trap then good job, we've baited Seon. We cannot afford to pay 200+ credits to later realize that Seon was just a stubbord townie. Let's reduce the cost of lynching him, and for that we need you to fold your vote on Sasaki. If you don't remove it, you will lose it anyway and die, because unless the situation changes, I guarantee you that I will make the necessary wager to lynch Seon at the time limit.

The same goes for anyone else not voting for Seon. It's time to fold to save your credits.

[Romanic]

This setup makes it hard for the mafia to lynch a townie because they will lose their credits by doing so, and I think they are aware of this. Notice how Jolt made a 85 credit wager on Day 1 - He could not go the whole way because he would also die.

If the person you wager money on is innocent, you lose those credits.

That's the killer rule for them.

So that's why Jolt bet 85 and not 100. He kept 15 to survive.

Now notice Seon's last bet. He's pushing a lot of chips to lynch Sasaki (90), but he's still keeping some (9). I would be much more inclined to believe that Seon is town if he pushed his whole stack(99), as it would show that Seon really believes Sasaki to be scum. Keeping 9 credits shows that Seon is worried about his survival, and that he possibly knows Sasaki is not mafia.

However the same reasoning could be applied to Sasaki's wager of 80 on Seon. I don't like it Sasaki. Why 100 on Jolt and now only 80 on Seon?

[Seon]

I look at statement like that, Romanic, and I think. What would Diamondeye do? He would probably try and kill you with a switchblade and swing it at you with madness in his eyes.

Unfortunately I don't have a switchblade, so I won't do that.


Anyways, you say I am holding back on credits? Of course I am. I am planning on adding them to my wager if you all fail to see that my lynch isn't worth the credits you are pouring in. Do I believe that Sasaki is innocent? Sure I do. He got Jolt on day 1 after all!

So the real question is, if I am town, am I insane enough to endanger Sasaki like that? Yes. Yes I am.

[Romanic]

You're not helping yourself Seon. If you are innocent, you should be trying to convince us that you are, not making threats on how much it will cost us to lynch you. Also, stating that you are keeping 9 credits to add them later is not making much sense when you are already wagering 90, as 9 more will not likely make a difference in the final result.

There's no way I am going to let you go now, you need to be lynched asap.

Fold

wager 1 credit: Seon

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

For the record, I am aware that this bet is pointless but I will be around to change it before the deadline. For now, I am content to show my support of a Seon lynch with 1 credit.

[Beskar]

Fold; wager 1 credit: Seon

Not going to waste money when it is the only advantage we have.