Proof?
Or is that just another mindless accusation without reason?
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Proof?
Or is that just another mindless accusation without reason?
MALE IN PAIN. MALE HAD SURGERY YESTERDAY.
MALE VOTES APTG
Vote: APTG
:cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
Like I said in Inavi, I've been away, barely had time to log in a vote in the first day phase.
Vote: DiY
Alternate wagon to Diamondeye and landlubber
That's not really a good reason to vote him unless you've seen him do this before or have a gut feeling. Simply on it's own, I wouldn't think that to be damning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
That however, is a bit more so. Placed the deciding vote. I would guess this is why Diamondeye voted for him. However, I'm a bit more curious as to why DIY voted him. Seemed to me like he just made a typical first round "accusation". Tomfoolery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Vote: DiY for now
This isn't helping your case. If you're a townie and being falsely accused, please fight it, at least a little. A self vote day two doesn't show us anything at all, at least not this early in the game, unless of coarse it's Pizza doing it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
Optimus Prime finds Diamondeye's self-vote distressing, as it seems purposeless unless it is intended for Deception, like the evil Decepticons.
unvote, vote: Diamondeye
If I know DE correctly, he wouldn't vote himself off of he was guilty.
Instead... DiY
Gah. I meant Vote: DiY
MALE THINK YOU WRONG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seon
Unvote: ATPG, Vote: Diamondeye
I break all the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skooma Addict
This post is scummy as hell and contains a vote that puts someone else solidly in front of yourself by bandwagoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
Landlubber is scum
... But an OMGUS-bandwagon is okay? In a game of 14 (well, 12 alive) players, 3 votes for pressure is very reasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
I don't like the way you're bending under that pressure though.
:bow: Okay; unvote; vote:LandlubberQuote:
Originally Posted by Skooma Addict
Putting my vote where it should never have left.
Who is Landlubber's partner? Autolycus seems like the best bid.
Unofficial Tally:
Diamondeye: Landlubber
DiY: Diamondeye
ATPG: Landlubber
Romanic: DiY
Autolycus: Diamondeye
GE: DIY
Civplayah: Diamondeye
Landlubber: Diamondeye
pevergreen: Diamondeye
TheFlax: DiY
Skooma Addict: DiY
Seon: DiY
Diamondeye: 5
DiY: 5
Landlubber: 2
I could change my vote to DiY to save myself but I honestly believe the scum are landlubber and autolycus, so it would be pointless.
IMO you are being way too definitive for the early game.
My votes were meant as a reaction probe, and yours (you claim) were pressure votes on landlubber.
I'm interested to know why this has transcended to certainty in your decision as evidenced by this line:
I'm sticking my vote here, both out of self preservation, and a re-gauging of priorities in that you are likelier than landlubber to be the guilty party.Quote:
Who is Landlubber's partner? Autolycus seems like the best bid.
I believe Post #91 clarifies my opinion on why Landlubber is scum.
I don't about being too definitive, we need to lynch someone and I pressured Landlubber. His reaction didn't convince me that he wasn't scum. I'm not saying I'm certain he's scum, I'm saying it's the most likely case thus far.
I don't know, if I did as you and went self-preservation by changing my vote onto you instead of trying to root out scum, you'd be in the lead by now and probably be lynched. But I think you're just an off-course townie, so I won't.
Thanks for the tally Diamond Eye :bow:
I appreciate it.
Voting closed if someone breaks the tie.
I don't get it. You asked for a defense with your opening post. As soon as my real life allows, I give you that defense, hoping to satisfy you. Now, you're saying that my defense was scummy. Your campaign has switched from pressure vote to scum vote, based on my defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
I just don't get it.
What is it you don't get?Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
The "Defend yourself!" vote was simply a pressure vote. Saying "Defend yourself" doesn't mean I have any concrete evidence against you (how could I, so early?). It was just pressure, and you buckled under it. There's no reason not to follow up such a hunch when there are no better cases to chase.
Landlubber, who do you think is the mafia, then, if it isn't you?
Well, you bandwagoneers are my first choice. I know all three of you can't be mafia, so one of you just got mixed up with the wrong crowd. Out of the three of you, I'd say you and ATPG are more suspicious and DiY was just influenced by peer pressure, or something. You for a "pressure vote" that turned into a smear campaign, and ATPG for still no explanation whatsoever on his vote.
I don't think anyone else sees me as scummy, DE. It's you who buckled under the pressure of a meaningless vote, which a couple people called you on, which you then tried to give meaning to by turning my everyday behavior as scummy. You're chasing ghosts here; that is, if you really believe I am mafia.
... So the only one suspicious are the people accusing you? I'm not getting this angle off as very plausible.
Can you think of someone else? The latecomers on to either of the tied bandwagons, per example?
AskThePizzaGuy explained his vote to my content (I even agreed with the reasoning behind), but I'm sure he will indulge in further explanations if you require so. I have for myself presented the case I found to be on you (if there are such things on day 2), so your arguments are not very well-founded.
So, you think both me and DiY is scummy - want me to move my vote to myself and get it over with? Or onto DiY and get rid of him?
Diamondeye is asking a legimite question, landlubber, which one these two should go in your opinion?
You do realized that I said I was going to give DiY the benefit of the doubt, right? I specifically said:
"Out of the three of you, I'd say you and ATPG are more suspicious and DiY was just influenced by peer pressure, or something."
I feel I have answered all your questions fairly, but this is getting us nowhere. I'm not trying to argue, just defend myself. I have no arguments, so I guess that's why they aren't very well-founded.
I just don't see how you could get definitive proof from a reaction. I don't think anyone besides ATPG (who's vote is still a question mark to me) sees it. So, my vote stands.
Oh, his question was legit? I truthfully thought it sarcastic. Between the two, I would rather see Diamondeye lynched. I think DiY deserves another chance; like I said before, benefit of the doubt.
Thank you for your answer.
Unvote: Landlubber
Vote: Diamondeye
Diamondeye isn't scum.
vote: landlubber
Err.... what?....
Edit: Why the sudden unvoting, DE?
Ignore this, I was confused.
Diamond eyes vote was a tie breaker.
Diamondeye is lynched.
Write up is coming after breakfast :bow:
I did what I felt was best to get the town moving moving again; me or DiY had to die, and I'm not very convinced that DiY is mafia. I made this move that we could get past this day phase without having to revisit this exact conflict later.
I still think a Landlubber/Autolycus mafia team is plausible, but Landlubber's reactions in the critical moments don't strike me as especially scummy.
I'd try to look between those people who jumped on the badnwagons when they were already rolling tomorrow. Of course, I can't tell who's going to die tonight, but pevergreen should be looked at. Skooma and Flax as well, perhaps.
Day 2 summery
After a long discussion, it was decided that Diamondeye was to go.
"Diamondeye. You are not only suspected, but you also volunteer to go.. How do you plead?"
"Not guilty. But someone must go. Might as well be me."
"Fair enough" said Molga. "Today I have a guest... Come in Commandwolf!"
http://www.geocities.jp/fizyblastan/commandwolf_ac.JPG
"Eat him... But do not kill him."
With a fear some roar, Commandwolf swallowed Diamondeye.
"Now. Go prepare for the next operation!"
Start Night 2
List of alive players 11/14
Skooma Addict
pevergreen
TheFlax
Seon
Romanic
God Emperor
Death is Yonder
Landlubber
Civplayah
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
Lynched 2/14
Beskar
Diamondeye
Killed 1/14
Kagemusha
I am wondering why this vote was so contentious this early. Surely there wasn't any reason why people could have very strong feelings on any candidate so soon, unless they know something I don't.
I would be intrigued to know landlubber's status.
I'm not exactly following you. Status?
Guilty/innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
Someone seemed to be trying to spare you or Death is Yonder. There was something off about this vote.
Something to learn from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Well, I honestly don't know. To me, it's kind of a toss-up. He could be either. I'm leaning towards guilty, but I'm really not 100% sure.
I'll post more thoughts tomorrow. It's bedtime for me.
I don't know... I haven't gotten a very scummy impression of Death Is Yonder, but it seems like others have.
I think it's safe to assume that if Death is Yonder is mafia, his partner was in the "Diamondeye" bandwagon.
Of those guys, I'd say pevergreen looks most suspicious.
Oh, and y'all owe me something if it actually turns out it's Landlubber and Autolycus. :tongue:
I already said it is Landlubber, kill him already.
What makes you so sure? I honestly don't see the evidence against me.
Sometimes people pretend to be certain, and that puts more pressure on someone and gets them to crack. You've reacted a lot for someone with only a couple votes on them.
Thank you for precisely and adequately explaining the reasoning behind my Sasaki-like vote at the beginning of day 2 :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I do admit I have reacted to votes, yes. However, my reactions are simply inquisitive. I truthfully would like to see the evidence against me. Despite having played mafia for quite some time now, I still have a bit of trouble telling when people are bluffing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Night 2 summery
Tama. If you go over to Kanagawa theres Karuizawa and Hakone in Shizuoka.
Those places are probably closer and better. But for a Uni students, money is the most important. So the place to go for camping was Tama in Tokyo.
Tokyo are divided in to two parts. Theres the Tokyo city. Then theres other parts of Tokyo which is more isolated then most sub urban parts of Japan. This is where Beefy was, along with 30 odd school mates and seniors. Amongst them, there was the girl.
"I never knew you can cook Beefy!" giggled the girl. Boy her giggling was cute even from the toys point of view.
"Ummm.. Well.. Cooking isn't too hard.. As long as it isn't hard and.... Umm..."
Shy Beefy chose to cook on less populated part of the camp site. Along with 2 or 3 close mates. The girl came along to check out the rumour that Beefy can cook well.
He managed to get the fire going alright. Camping in Australia taught him the art of fire making. But Aussies didn't teach him how to cook something other then toasts or some thing more extreme like Mac & Cheese. Stir Fried Noodles was something beyond his ability. It didn't stop Beefy from trying though. He just had to remember how his mother does it. And he'll cover the rest with love and little help from his mates.
Molga thought its only fair if they told the girl Beefys real ability to cook in a hard way. Its not fair for him to get help from his friends just so he can get the girls attention.
"First platoon! Second platoon! Report in!"
"We're in position sir! Ready to go!"
"Do it!"
Suddenly scream was heard from a distance. Which worked out as a obvious distraction. 10 seconds of drifted attention not only cause the devastating burn to the noodles but also provides the main squad to mix in stuff which they shouldn't.
"Vegemite, Miso, strawberry jam, bit of tofu, bit of chili sauce.... The girl hates cheese right? Give a little cheese as well! Mmmm. Juicy...."
Each ingredients was so tiny that it was hardly visible, but the mix of those ingredients was enough to make the noodle deadly.
"Toys retreat! Retreat!"
........................................................................................
"Sir! Skooma Addict is MIA! No one has seen him."
"Grr... Our war still continues. Let us hope that this operation is successful for Skoomas sake!"
Molga and the toys were observing the toys from the distance.
The girl picked up the chop stick and shoved in the noodles.
Chewed it twice. Her face changing colours, going pale.. and..
"Vomit girl! Vomit it out!"
"Sir! Shes recovering!"
"What? Impossible!!"
Indeed the girl definitely wasn't pleased, but she managed to pull out a Japanese smile, hiding her true expression.
Others didn't seem to like it either, but it seemed edible.
"You! Go take a bite of those noodles! Somethings wrong."
............................................................................................
Toy returned from the mission to report what he had witnessed.
"Sir! Someone, seemed to have mixed some Mayonnaise in those noodles. Intentionally or unintentionally. That mystical ingredient neutralized our deadly mixture, making the food edible. Cookers denied putting the mayo in, so it must be one of us. Worst news of all, the girl seemed to like Beefy even more. Firstly because the food didn't completely kill her, second because she know Beefy tried his best, Thirdly because Beefy apologized sincerely and finally because shes a good cook her self. Shes willing to make up for what Beefy lacks."
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
"What a good girl" all the toys sighed.
"We will get her eventually" raged Molga. "Return to our base. We shall find out who poured that mayo in. We'll destroy him in the most cruel way possible!"
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Start day 3!
List of alive players 10/14
pevergreen
TheFlax
Seon
Romanic
God Emperor
Death is Yonder
Landlubber
Civplayah
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
Lynched 2/14
Beskar
Diamondeye
Killed 2/14
Kagemusha
Skooma Addict
I think you'd be hard pressed for evidence on anyone so early on. Why the insistence on evidence? Evidence is quite rare, and we usually have to work without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
"But there's no evidence" is something I hear from certain scumbags, and not often from townies, not this early.
But of course I could have read past your post and saw that it was day phase again so I wouldn't have to double post.
Vote: landlubber
Vote: Landlubber
I'm going to have to agree with these others, although it is ironic to decry the bandwagon on landlubber one day and join it the next.
vote:landlubber
Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
Hmmm, I honestly think you are scum. :smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
vote: landlubber
Quadruple truthful/honestly? Being nervous, landlubber? :p Vote: Landlubber
vote: lubs.
Sigh.
Landlubber is lynched.
Incoming write up.
Day 3 summery
As promised, todays method of execution was Molgas missiles.
"Landlubber! Landlubber! Do you know how happy I am right now?" smiled Molga.
Landlubber shook his head in terror.
"For the first time since the episode 4 of Zoids battle saga, I get to use my missiles!"
Landlubber pulled out a epic toy story quote "But your a toy Molga. Just an toy!"
Enraged Molga prepared to shoot his missiles, yet not meeting any success.
"What? Why?"
"You can't shoot those missiles. Its removable but its not shootable."
"Oh yea?"
Molga crawled towards one of the toy and made eye contact. That toy pulled off the missile from Molgas body and charged at poor Landlubber.
"Whack Whack whack whack whack whack whack!!"
Landlubbers soul came out of the toy. He will bother us no more.
"Alright! Now off to the next operation!"
List of alive players 9/14
pevergreen
TheFlax
Seon
Romanic
God Emperor
Death is Yonder
Civplayah
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
Lynched 3/14
Beskar
Diamondeye
Landlubber
Killed 2/14
Kagemusha
Skooma Addict
Start Night 3!
Well, I wasn't mafia. I have no idea who is. Things seem to be going quite well for them, however.
Try TheFlax, seems far too lurky for my taste.
MALE WAS ASLEEP. MALE IS SORRY FOR NOT VOTING.
Sorry Master Beef, Woody fell asleep on the job.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Night 3 summery
Rushing through the shelf.
Looking for the stuff.
It does sound bit kink.
Because really it is kink.
Beefys secret stash.
Hard Drive has been found.
Loading data.
Ready set go and rock.
Jingle Bell, Jingle bell, attach them to the mail!
Type in name. Type her name. Type her name and send. Yay!
Send her pr0ns. send her pr0ns. Send her pr0ns hurray!
Stop right there! Thats not fair! Oops pressed sent... too late.
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"So it was you... The traitor." Taunted Romanic. Tied up but laughing as he enjoyed the taste of victory. "Alas you were 10 seconds late! Molga will be delighted with my work!"
"Shut up you!" said the traitor as he flicked Romanics power button from on to off. Romanic spoke no more.
"Now... What to do! What to do!!" Traitor panicked. After few minutes of hard thinking, he finally thought of a solution.
He clicked create new mail, typed in her address and sent.
"Apologies to everyone who received a pr0n mail from me in the past few hours. My computer was attacked by a virus but its been taken care off. If you received the mail, please just delete it."
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Molga was observing the situation in the girls house.
Girls face went pale as she opened up the mail. Which clearly read
"Dear my favourite girl:p
As a token of our friendship, i'll share you my treasure. Hope you like them! This is who I am, and this is who you should be!"
"Victory is ours!"Laughed Molga. "Emperor Prozen of the Guyloss Empire will be proud! Now scream girl! Scream!"
While she didn't seem to be very impressed, she wasn't really disgusted at the sight.
She showed a sign of curiosity. She was rather amused by the mail.
"How can it be!?"
Then few minutes later she received mail from Beefy. Explaining that the pr0n was sent by the virus.
She nodded as she was relieved that Beefy isn't thoughtless pr0n loving sick nerd.
She ran a quick virus check, and when she found out that its safe. She resumed watching it.
"Strange girl..." sighed Molga. "Anyway, traitor is still amongst us! Must be destroyed! Must be destroyed!"
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List of alive players 8/14
pevergreen
TheFlax
Seon
God Emperor
Death is Yonder
Civplayah
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
Lynched 3/14
Beskar
Diamondeye
Landlubber
Killed 3/14
Kagemusha
Skooma Addict
Romanic
Start day 4!
...how did that excuse work?
MALE SUSPECTS ATPG.
Vote: ATPG
More importantly; Are there more of that kind of girls out there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seon
Vote: SeonQuote:
Originally Posted by Seon
piggybacking on someone else's reasoning.
Also, I'd like to lynch pevergreen, but I am probably going to be alone in that as usual.
WHY YOU HATE MALE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Like all the guys says, "shes special"Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
It's not hate; it relates to you constantly voting for me without giving a reason, and you have yet to be correct, including now. I am also not sure I can count on you to change your vote to someone else when it's crunch time or be serious at any point.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
If that changes, I will take note.
I have no choice but to piggyback on other's opinion for I am a piggybank, Pizza.
Evil Doctor Porkchop, may I presume? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seon
Roleplay aside, of those who voted for lubber, your vote came late and didn't add to the discussion really.
It would seem from my perspective that you are showing classic signs of being mafia; waiting until the lynch for the day has been decided before contributing the bare minimum. Even for you, that's not a stretch since it's good mafia play (for a while anyway) and you can be humorous and strange at the same time if you please, so it's a perfect fit for you.
Why don't you prove your good intentions with an accusation of your own, on a candidate of your own, with reasoning of your own?
I, Optimus Prime, am going to have to agree with Diamondeye on this one. TheFlax has been extremely lurky, giving us nothing to analyze. Even if he's not the silent partner to another scum, he'll be useless in the endgame.
vote: TheFlax
Actually pevergreen what is going on? This is the second time you voted for ATPG without giving any reason and you seem almost eager to get rit of him. . . not to mention your bandwagon on Diamondeye when you saw how things were going. I think he was right in suspecting you
Vote: pevergreen
Hmm? I was certain I replied to you pizza. Oh well, I accused God Emperor but I guess he...ninjaed me.
I shall post my own accusation when I have time.
Some short brainstorming. Sorry if I am merely stating the obvious
List of alive players 8/14
pevergreen - not mafia with ATPG, I think
TheFlax - Lurking - possibly mafia, or useless townsperson
Seon - Scummy behaviour, but not mafia if Landlubber was
God Emperor - Passing just below the scumdar. Seems protective of ATPG (?)
Death is Yonder - Slinked into the background after the run-up against me. Not mafia with ATPG, God Emperor or Seon
Civplayah - Lurker, like TheFlax.
Askthepizzaguy - He's the Pizzaguy! I'm not that good at reading him but if he's mafia, GE might be his accoplice
autolycus - might've been Landlubber's associate (if LL was mafia) - otherwise, strikes me as mostly townie
Hmm.
Vote: ATPG
Just a twitch off I should think, and for lack of a better suspect, I haven't really been paying attention to this thread, more of parasite with what meager amounts of time I have been devoting to .org matters recently, but pizza is my likeliest suspect based on in thread behavior, can't really give explicit examples but it just feels like something's wrong.
:laugh4: right on cue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
You do know this means I am innocent, right? I reserve the right to say I told you so.
Entirely your prerogative :bow:
For now, I have concluded whatever urgent matters there is before going to bed, Au Revoir.
So in conclusion:Quote:
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
- You have not been looking for suspects
- You have not been paying attention
- Yet I still seem scummy to you
- But you cannot say why
I insist that I be lynched immediately. Perhaps after I am dead, we will know why I was lynched. :grin:
And with that, I too must bid you all a tearful good-bye, as I must get in some sleep before shift number 4 of ten hours of backbreaking labor. I trust we will have a different candidate for today's lynch other than myself, and the reason why is because the town usually wants to win games, and you'd have better odds if you lynched basically anyone besides me, on my honor. If you don't believe me, I will feel like my word means nothing, and I just couldn't bear to feel that way. *sniff sniff*
Also:
(insert stunning argument why I should not be lynched here)
^What he said. Well put, well put. :applause: But I still think we should lynch Askthepizzaguy to find out why he's acting so vaguely and generically scummy. Like Humpty Dumpty, we can always just put him back together if we are wrong, right?
YOU MAKE MALES HEAD HURT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
Ok, I get it, I get it. I'm deadweight in this game. I just feel so clueless in this game. I was hoping I'd be killed off quickly because I realize I'm in too many games. Yet, I hate being a bad townie, so I'll actually make an effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
Alright, I've reread the thread and there are a few things that caught my attention.
So far autolycus has the most contradictions in such a short time span. (3 day phases) For example, no liking a "fast bandwagon" on one day and then joins a fast and total bandwagon on the same person. Then there is also that he thought Diamondeye might be scum so he voted for him and yet now he seem to be following advice from the same person he helped lynch. In hindsight though, I have a blind spot concerning people who vote for me and I tend to find them overly scummy and then when I try to rationalize that voting for me isn't necessarily scummy, I end up giving them too much leeway. Which is to say, I'm completely uncertain and I need to think more on this.
Something that struck me even more was civplayah voting for DE based on what Kagemusha said and then suddenly changing to landlubber, proclaiming DE's innocence solely on the fact that the latter voted for himself. This strikes me as odd.
Furthermore, I don't know what to make of pevergreen, with this particular style of posting its hard to tell anything.
I'll go with vote: civplayah for now.
Thanks, TheFlax :bow: Better late than never.
I'd say look at pever and civplayah, then.
I'll just go ahead and say- that's not the reason I switched off DE.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
Looks like the votes are pretty split up.
How about I give you guys 6,7 more hours extension. Would that help?