Betrayer of the true path! :stare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
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Betrayer of the true path! :stare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
What he really means is "Mommy wouldn't buy me Civ 5, so I'll slum it with you guys a bit longer."Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
I just left the store but they won't have it home for another two hours, so that's pretty much my situation as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
After that, though, you might want to try and contact me on steam through God Emperor, Beskar or Double A. If you can get in contact with them... :laugh4:
Night One
As night falls over the city of Rome the Senators are scared beyond belief no one has being exiled so who is going to die this very night. Two murderers walk the streets talking to each other over who it is they should kill they duck through the alleyways of Rome avoiding the scummy areas. At night time the wealthy areas of Rome are empty no one goes out after dark unless they have something untoward planned and these two men have something very untoward planned indeed.As they see their targets house they split up heading off to their various targets. The first man enters into a house that is deceptively plain. It has no flashy ornaments no garish displays of wealth this is a house of a man who knows he is rich and does not merely think he is. This is the house of Marcus Crassus richest man in all of Rome a man who at last count had 200 million sesterces the equal of the treasury of all of Rome. However for all his wealth and power it will not save him from the butcher’s knife and with his death a great blow will be struck for the poor men of Rome for much of their debt was in his hands. The killer stalks his prey pulling out a small Gladius he sneaks through the house passed the sleeping servants and into the bedchamber of Marcus Crassus (autolycus) his raises his swords to strike and kill Crassus in a single blow he then quickly flees back into the city leaving no evidence of what Senator he is. Crassus is not a man that will be mourned but his death puzzles the Senators of Rome for if a man of his power can be killed like that what hope has the rest of the group of surviving these trying times.
The Second Killer walks to the Hills of the Palatine the wealthiest area of Rome he attempts to enter a house belonging to the Consul Cicero however as he attempts to gain entry he is spotted by Tiro the servant of Cicero and runs off into the night. Killing Cicero will be no easy task it will require far more planning to have any chance of succeeding many others will have to die before Cicero will be unprotected.
The next morning and the Senate meets once again but in the night-time two messages have being placed on the walls of the Senate they read as follows
"Exile not the man who would be king, lest he return in triumph."
And the second reads
"Don't trust God Emperor. He does not have the best interests of the Republic at heart."
Cicero gets up on the Rostra and begins to speak.
My fellow Romans good men to the man we have much to fear over the following days just last night a cowardly assassin attempted to kill me your beloved Consul.Thes men failed in their task just as they will fail at all they do. However I have some sad news Crassus is dead, he was a friend of mine, he brought the news of this plot to my attention and it appears that he has paid for it with his life. In light of his noble sacrifice for the Republic I put forward a motion that we, the Senate, put on a series of Gladitorial Games in the Forum in his honour. All those opposed to this motion speak now.
There is no response.
All in favour.
With this the great roar once again moves across the Senate like a wave.
Motion Carried. Now let us all vote on whom should be sent to his death or who should be exiled.
Autolycus (Marcus Crassus) is dead
Well, it was fun while it lasted.
I suggest we recall me, seeing as there have been plenty of murderous business. Also, the hell, Crassus gone on night one? Tough jerkey.
I don't have anything to say on the topic of the notes... I don't have any reason to believe GE to be guilty but neither to suggest his innocence. The other is more cryptic. I suppose it means that we should never exile Catalina; That'll mean a loss.
EDIT: O and @the host: Have you read Conn Iggulden's series on Caesar? It's very much in the spirit of this game, I feel. And is the no-punctuation-politic voluntary? My head hurts.
I have read some of them I am not a fan it takes far too much liberties with history. Its potrayal of Cato in particuler irks me. As for puncutation it is a flaw of mine. When I focus on puncuation it is a lot better. I suppose in many ways I am like how someone desribed catch 22. "It appears not so much to have being written but shouted onto the page."
hmm.. It would appear that a person has the ability to to enter text in the writeup, similar to the telepathy ability in parasite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
Anyway, I think Romanic might be right, and we must therefore each day phase make sure that a tie does not occur.
Personally I don't like bandwagons in the start of the game, so I am going to Vote Exilium TheFlax for the late bandwagon vote
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Catalina was already exiled/kicked out of the senate... Or was that just part of story?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
So what we know so far...
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
If we assume that all the named characters in the intro and writeups are unique roles then we have:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
That means 8 - 10 special roles including mafia, right?
so 7-9 special roles spread amongst the remaining 16 players if my math/reasoning is right...
Tullanium: Johnhughthom
Beskar, how would you feel if Johnhughthom was put to death? And, would you support such a measure?
I'm guessing my failure to lodge a vote last round has drawn your attention? I expected Cicero and Catalina to make a bigger contribution to the game than they did last round and didn't get a chance to vote after my comment saying I was waiting for them to post.
Then I suspect you have time to comment now. Who should be put to death?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
I'll tell you my opinion on that if you enlighten me as to why Beskar would have a strong opinion on whether I should be put to death.
I believe whether he has an opinion at all regarding your death remains to be seen. Which is why I posed the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
If you wanted to draw a quiet player out you would ask a general question on the game, you asked Beskar a very specific question which leads me to think you suspect a link.
:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
Bah, I could strangle whoever put a roof over your head...
:clown:
You've given me reasons to leave my vote where it is, because you seem incredibly adept at reading my mind, and to be frank, only mafia know how to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
Tell me why I think Beskar is suspicious. While you're at it, what number am I thinking of?
Shiesh.. people are so bloodthirsty... Or am I just missing something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I have no use for exiling Crassus' murderer. The guilty parties should be put to death.
Those that crave leniency are either cowards or co-conspirators, in my opinion.
Autolycus asked me yesterday if I knew anything about God Emperor, which makes me wonder if he was the source of that message in the write-up.
Any idea what Auto was looking for, GE?
No not at all. I haven't been in contact with anyone privately about this game yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Anyone else think it was weird of the mafia to try and kill Csargo, even though he is unkillable till his men die?(It was clearly stated in the OP):confused:
Either the most clever plot ever or a random kill gone wrong, leaning more toward random and not playing much attention to this game.:idea2:
Exilium:Joooray since he seems to fit the bill...(ignores that that could be over half the players at present):sweatdrop:
Do we know for certain he is guilty? because if we do then by all means, lynch himQuote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I just don't remember him being guilty, to me it just sounded like trying to start a bandwagon... If you have any evidence you could always post it you know, share whats going on with the rest of us...
EDIT: If you are trying to get him to talk which may be the case then go ahead, I just didn't understand your reasoning
I note that after his failure to vote yesterday, even after prodding, he has failed to accuse anyone again today. Although he ponders much on the reasoning for my vote, he does not ponder much on who is guilty. Or if he has, he isn't showing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
I also note that using the democratic process to administer justice seems just, it also necessitates bandwagoning to accomplish anything. One vote hardly constitutes a bandwagon anyway. Have you any better ideas for bringing the ones responsible to justice, feel free to mention them.
So, does this imply that you think me stupid enough to try to kill someone I know is well protected? That's an outrage, my good sir. I may be past my prime, but my head still works well, my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
Anyway, I don't think we will have much to go on this time around. Those foul murders will certain know how to cover their behinds.
But I'm also intrigued by the implied connections between Sen. Beskar and Sen. john. Could you elaborate, my good Sen. pizza?
I misinterpreted your tone as trying to get a bandwagon on him and/or a bloodthirsty desire to lynch him without anything other than suspicious behaviorQuote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Otherwise I have no objection to who you accuse or how you accuse them... Except as I stated before, I believe Exile is the better of the two options for the town...
I would still like to hear from God Emperor about why he wouldn't have the best interests of the republic at heart
I would most certainly elaborate, but right now I am enjoying the awkward silence presented by the right honorable senators Beskar and John, especially from John.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
The quiet is almost musical to my ears.
If you refer to the message posted for all to see, then surely you must be jesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
Since it has been only one night, it is not an anonymous message from some would-be investigator informing us that the good Emperor is a slime mold in disguise, because there wouldn't have been enough time for such a report to have been properly gathered.
What you see, sir, is a lie. A lie for what purpose, I do not know, but it is clearly a lie. Why you focus so on this lie leads me to believe that you yourself wrote it.
Do explain why you give any thought to this foolishness.
Actually, a thought crosses my mind:
The first reads-
And the second reads-Quote:
"Exile not the man who would be king, lest he return in triumph."
Quote:
"Don't trust God Emperor. He does not have the best interests of the Republic at heart."
I believe that Csargo wrote the first one, and Sasaki wrote the second one.
It is possible that Cicero and Catiline have the ability to post messages for us to read.Quote:
Cicero is Csargo
Catiline is Saskai
Csargo, given such an ability, would probably be advocating for outright imprisonment and death of those voted, in an authoritative manner. Sasaki, given such an ability, would cause confusion, suspicion, and mayhem for his own amusement.
What do I win?
Let me get this straight, you're accusing me of bandwagonning a player who hasn't even shown up yet, because I wanted to see how Exilium worked, while a player that had been contributing was, to be the best of my knowledge at time, on the way to being executed. Why select me over the third voter on DiamondEye? Do you think he had a better reason to vote?Quote:
Originally Posted by God Emperor
I don't believe exiling people is a good idea. I think I've already stated that, but I'll say it again just to be sure. The possibility of them joining Catiline when recalled is more than enough for me to think it's a bad idea.
At this point john or Joooray are good choices for the lynch. Tullanium: Johnhughthom
I just about unvoted you for this but your missing a vote on someone. Too many people are "towing the line" as my netural-mind friend as says. Vote for someone and the vote comes off.:bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
I believe you are right. To refer to a comment you said earlier about the second message that dovetails into what you are saying now, sure it is misdirection, but it doesn't make someone less suspicious in my mind. I think these types of messages should generally be ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I think you should leave it on W_E. His response to it was strange imo.
I wanted to exile him to see how it worked...we needed a majority for death for it to even work anyway:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
You know... I really didn't think of that :blush:... I saw Diamond Eye post about not exiling Catalina and I assumed that the rest would be trustworthy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Unless the basic role of detective has changed in this game then you are right and it doesn't make sense... *sigh* I'll get used to these games again yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
But anyways, since the posted message is a lie we can assume that God Emperor is a townie, right?
Not really, no.
I'm not questioning you WE, I'm just wondering if GE is making a lazy vote or if he has some sort of reasoning behind his vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
I'll even up the ante, until you reply God Emperor:
Tullanium: God Emperor
Fair enough. I shall Tullianum: Beskar. For one he should be pressured to be active, also he has been put in connection with john and I don't want to bandwagon him.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
I would vote Sasaki as his silence is unnerving, then again it wouldn't work and also with him being thrown out he may be refrained from letting his voice be heard at this point. This would also give credibility to Sen. pizza's claim that one of the messages is his doing.
Here have a balloon:balloon2: . . It is a good theory though I do not understand what the first part is supposed to mean. The part about exiling the wanna-be king.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Well.. From your perspective, you can not really make anything out of it. Askthepizzaguy's theory is good, and properly correct but we do not know for sure. You see, Winston believed that Autolycus posted it because he apparently was searching for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
No, I vote Exile because I do not like to lynch before perhaps the next round when we have some posts to work with. But exile is a little tricky in this game, so perhaps a lynch is the best.. it all really comes down to how many players that would be affected by the 'funny thing happen to you in exile'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
But no, I don't think people have any good reasons for a first round vote. If I was certain you were mafia I would not use my vote as an exile vote. I voted one of the two bandwagon late voters, and it happened to be you
Not an awkward silence from me, watching football (real football, not padding and cheerleaders). Half time now, I'll comment more in 45 mins or so.
Joooray has the right idea...UnExilium:Joooray Exilium:Double A we didn't hear from you yet:oops:
Why exile over lynch?Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
I'm just airing the idea that I'd be able to tell whether exile actually does something if I'm recalled.
I'm perfectly fine with waiting until there has been another night phase before being recalled, though, since you might want to try and monitor kill number patterns.
Also, I'm most likely going to be murdered the night after my return since I'll be a likely innocent, so if there is a protector out there with nothing to do when I get back, well, I'd love you to cover me.
I think ATPG is catching on to something in regards to Beskar, but I'm not sure. I think the lead on GE is a dupe.
I'm pretty sure you weren't exiled from what the end day phase write-up says. CB may have to make that clear unless you recieved a PM stating otherwise. Did you?
It really all depends on whether the special thing happens when they are recalled or when they are exiled...Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
any word from Beskar?
Sorry for the sporadic replies, I'm in the middle of a Telemetry course and I try to check the thread at every break point but there's other stuff i have to do
Not to argue the point here, but - why bother recalling? As I understand it, recalling is a choice, not an automated function, so if we suspect recalling would be bad, then we simply don't - names appear to be revealed, so a little history will be enough to suffice to know whom never to recall. The only case in which i can possibly think Exilium would be bad is if it actively bolsters the mafia's ability to function.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Exilium: Secura, FOS: WE
Despite our discussion last night, I am still not convinced.
Possibly because I was at school until just recently? :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
Well, here I am. What do you want to hear?
Fair enough, there's only one way to change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Exilium: Secura
As a rule of thumb, I take people who self-vote with the same suspicion as suspected mafiosos.
So, what's with the self-vote Secura?
To convince YLC about something I said to him last night; you should vote the same way, s'easier to prove my claim to him that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Hmm... I don't see any harm in it, so might as well Exillium: Secura, unless someone brings something up.
What is your opinion on what has happened so far?:book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
@Csargo:I just want people to talk without putting too much pressure on them. Would you like it if I went with pressure-lynch votes instead?:shrug:
Could be a reference to Caesar, this post:Quote:
Originally Posted by God Emperor
Could be taken as a Caesar roleclaim. Could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I think Beskar was making a joke but that's just meQuote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
That's not how you convince me, try harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
What do you mean by "recall" you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
Exiled people can be recalled, but you are not one. Day 1 ended in a "no decision", so why should we recall you?
I was thinking about voting Secura but I'm a little hesitant because he seems to really want it.. part of his role? :dizzy2:
Exile: Beskar until he posts...
Nah, I'm not in the mood for playing guess-how-to-convince-YLC games; either say what you want to happen or wait for my claim to be proven true.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Autolycus asked you about God Emperor specifically? I'm curious to know why. Surely you asked him why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I bet you win nothing because you must be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Why would Cicero and Catiline have anonymous abilities when we know who they are? Surely if they wanted to say something, they could say it publicly. Also, a night ability would be odd for these men. I don't picture them getting up at night to stick anonymous messages on the Senate walls, and besides, I expect them to have better abilities than this.
But you get a candy for the effort. :laugh4:
I'm not asking you to guess how to convince me, Secura. Our conversation did not convince me of your innocence, and I voted for you because of that - there is no reason to behave like this, at all. I am not placing any obligation upon you to do anything, yet you are - why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
Doesn't bother me in the slightest, he is an unknown to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Why not?Quote:
And, would you support such a measure?
Tullanium: Johnhughthom
UnExilium, Tullanium: Johnhughthom
Are you going to keep your word Beskar?
My word about what? I haven't a slightest inclination to who this 'johnhughthom' you speak of. I simply couldn't care much about the fate of the man who I do not know.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
If it pleases the plebs, as they do performances and circus acts depicting the back-biting, infighting, as the streets run red with noble blood, then who are we to judge their indulgence?
Good point, I just don't want to end up giving Catiline any more recruits. I would imagine that who gets recruited is random, and that names probably won't tell very much. Probably just power roles imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Do tell. I'd be interested in knowing what you claimed. I'm also a very trustworthy person. :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
Yes please.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
Tullanium: God Emperor
It's written on the Senate walls that this man is dangerous!
It is written on the Senate walls that God Emperor is dangerous, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Yes! It is written on the Senate walls that God Emperor is dangerous! :smug2:Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
so why the vote for Johnhughthom?
The vote for Johnhughthom? :smug2:Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
This game is getting silly, I'm bored. Wonder where my sisters are...
Tullanium: YLC
Why?
Tullanium: Diamondeye
He's acting like a baffled townie who isn't paying close attention to the thread, but I think he's overplayed it. And there's something about the earnestness of his posts that reminds me of other times he's been mafia (Parasite: Earthbound, for example).
I asked, but he didn't reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Why so defensive about your Exilium vote? Unless you weren't replying to me by explaining why you picked Exilium? Because I don't have a particular issue with that. Though, if you have a preference for Exilium, why didn't you look at people who voted Tullanium on Diamondeye? I'll admit, I'm not really satisfied by your answer, especially the flip flopping about why you picked Exilium.Quote:
Originally Posted by God Emperor
sorry, I could have sworn that you voted for Johnhughthom not God EmperorQuote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
I don't exactly understand what it is you want. I am sorry if you were not satisfied, but what exactly do you wish me to further explain? I can repeat my simple reason for voting you, but that seems a tad pointless when you can re read my previous reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
I wanted to mention my thoughts on the exile/lynch possibilities, and yes perhaps it should have been done in a post for it self.
As for the "why didn't you vote people who voted for a lynch"; I don't see why I would do that? I have an idea that exile seems the best solution but it does not make it correct. I am sure not everyone shares this oppinion, but you think I should force my views upon others by voting them until they were agreeing?
I voted for you because of your late bandwagon and nothing more. You seem very upset about that vote, and I guess that's why you wish me to have a grand theory of who is guilty, at this early stage of the game.