The Catilinian Conspiracy [Concluded]

[God Emperor]

What do I win?

Here have a balloon . . It is a good theory though I do not understand what the first part is supposed to mean. The part about exiling the wanna-be king.

But anyways, since the posted message is a lie we can assume that God Emperor is a townie, right?

Well.. From your perspective, you can not really make anything out of it. Askthepizzaguy's theory is good, and properly correct but we do not know for sure. You see, Winston believed that Autolycus posted it because he apparently was searching for me.

Let me get this straight, you're accusing me of bandwagonning a player who hasn't even shown up yet, because I wanted to see how Exilium worked, while a player that had been contributing was, to be the best of my knowledge at time, on the way to being executed. Why select me over the third voter on DiamondEye? Do you think he had a better reason to vote?

No, I vote Exile because I do not like to lynch before perhaps the next round when we have some posts to work with. But exile is a little tricky in this game, so perhaps a lynch is the best.. it all really comes down to how many players that would be affected by the 'funny thing happen to you in exile'.

But no, I don't think people have any good reasons for a first round vote. If I was certain you were mafia I would not use my vote as an exile vote. I voted one of the two bandwagon late voters, and it happened to be you

[johnhughthom]

Not an awkward silence from me, watching football (real football, not padding and cheerleaders). Half time now, I'll comment more in 45 mins or so.

[White_eyes:D]

Joooray has the right idea...UnExilium:Joooray Exilium:Double A we didn't hear from you yet

[Csargo]

Joooray has the right idea...UnExilium:Joooray Exilium:Double A we didn't hear from you yet

Why exile over lynch?

[Diamondeye]

I'm just airing the idea that I'd be able to tell whether exile actually does something if I'm recalled.

I'm perfectly fine with waiting until there has been another night phase before being recalled, though, since you might want to try and monitor kill number patterns.

Also, I'm most likely going to be murdered the night after my return since I'll be a likely innocent, so if there is a protector out there with nothing to do when I get back, well, I'd love you to cover me.

I think ATPG is catching on to something in regards to Beskar, but I'm not sure. I think the lead on GE is a dupe.

[Csargo]

I'm pretty sure you weren't exiled from what the end day phase write-up says. CB may have to make that clear unless you recieved a PM stating otherwise. Did you?

[ByzantineKnight]

Why exile over lynch?

It really all depends on whether the special thing happens when they are recalled or when they are exiled...

any word from Beskar?

Sorry for the sporadic replies, I'm in the middle of a Telemetry course and I try to check the thread at every break point but there's other stuff i have to do

[ULC]

I don't believe exiling people is a good idea. I think I've already stated that, but I'll say it again just to be sure. The possibility of them joining Catiline when recalled is more than enough for me to think it's a bad idea.

At this point john or Joooray are good choices for the lynch. Tullanium: Johnhughthom

Not to argue the point here, but - why bother recalling? As I understand it, recalling is a choice, not an automated function, so if we suspect recalling would be bad, then we simply don't - names appear to be revealed, so a little history will be enough to suffice to know whom never to recall. The only case in which i can possibly think Exilium would be bad is if it actively bolsters the mafia's ability to function.

Exilium: Secura, FOS: WE

Despite our discussion last night, I am still not convinced.

[Double A]

Joooray has the right idea...UnExilium:Joooray Exilium:Double A we didn't hear from you yet

Possibly because I was at school until just recently?

Well, here I am. What do you want to hear?

[Secura]

I am still not convinced.

Fair enough, there's only one way to change that.

Exilium: Secura

[Double A]

As a rule of thumb, I take people who self-vote with the same suspicion as suspected mafiosos.

So, what's with the self-vote Secura?

[Secura]

So, what's with the self-vote Secura?

To convince YLC about something I said to him last night; you should vote the same way, s'easier to prove my claim to him that way.

[Double A]

Hmm... I don't see any harm in it, so might as well Exillium: Secura, unless someone brings something up.

[White_eyes:D]

Possibly because I was at school until just recently?

Well, here I am. What do you want to hear?

What is your opinion on what has happened so far?

@Csargo:I just want people to talk without putting too much pressure on them. Would you like it if I went with pressure-lynch votes instead?

[johnhughthom]

I do not understand what the first part is supposed to mean. The part about exiling the wanna-be king.

Could be a reference to Caesar, this post:

They return from Gaul with three veteran legions and take on the Senate, who are unprepared and not enough time to levy troops.

Could be taken as a Caesar roleclaim. Could.

[ByzantineKnight]

Could be taken as a Caesar roleclaim.

I think Beskar was making a joke but that's just me

[ULC]

Fair enough, there's only one way to change that.

Exilium: Secura

That's not how you convince me, try harder.

[Romanic]

I suggest we recall me, seeing as there have been plenty of murderous business. Also, the hell, Crassus gone on night one? Tough jerkey.

What do you mean by "recall" you?

Exiled people can be recalled, but you are not one. Day 1 ended in a "no decision", so why should we recall you?

[ByzantineKnight]

I was thinking about voting Secura but I'm a little hesitant because he seems to really want it.. part of his role?

Exile: Beskar until he posts...

[Secura]

That's not how you convince me, try harder.

Nah, I'm not in the mood for playing guess-how-to-convince-YLC games; either say what you want to happen or wait for my claim to be proven true.

[Romanic]

Autolycus asked me yesterday if I knew anything about God Emperor, which makes me wonder if he was the source of that message in the write-up.

Any idea what Auto was looking for, GE?

Autolycus asked you about God Emperor specifically? I'm curious to know why. Surely you asked him why.

[Beskar]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I think Beskar was making a joke but that's just me

I thought the joke part was pretty obvious, since it was a direct reference to where the Senate exiled Caesar and declared him a traitor, and he then led three veteran legions in a swift capture of Rome.

[Romanic]

I believe that Csargo wrote the first one, and Sasaki wrote the second one.

It is possible that Cicero and Catiline have the ability to post messages for us to read.

Csargo, given such an ability, would probably be advocating for outright imprisonment and death of those voted, in an authoritative manner. Sasaki, given such an ability, would cause confusion, suspicion, and mayhem for his own amusement.

What do I win?

I bet you win nothing because you must be wrong.

Why would Cicero and Catiline have anonymous abilities when we know who they are? Surely if they wanted to say something, they could say it publicly. Also, a night ability would be odd for these men. I don't picture them getting up at night to stick anonymous messages on the Senate walls, and besides, I expect them to have better abilities than this.

But you get a candy for the effort.

[ULC]

Nah, I'm not in the mood for playing guess-how-to-convince-YLC games; either say what you want to happen or wait for my claim to be proven true.

I'm not asking you to guess how to convince me, Secura. Our conversation did not convince me of your innocence, and I voted for you because of that - there is no reason to behave like this, at all. I am not placing any obligation upon you to do anything, yet you are - why?

[Beskar]

Beskar, how would you feel if Johnhughthom was put to death?

Doesn't bother me in the slightest, he is an unknown to me.

And, would you support such a measure?

Why not?

Tullanium: Johnhughthom

[ULC]

UnExilium, Tullanium: Johnhughthom

Are you going to keep your word Beskar?

[Beskar]

Are you going to keep your word Beskar?

My word about what? I haven't a slightest inclination to who this 'johnhughthom' you speak of. I simply couldn't care much about the fate of the man who I do not know.

If it pleases the plebs, as they do performances and circus acts depicting the back-biting, infighting, as the streets run red with noble blood, then who are we to judge their indulgence?

[Csargo]

Not to argue the point here, but - why bother recalling? As I understand it, recalling is a choice, not an automated function, so if we suspect recalling would be bad, then we simply don't - names appear to be revealed, so a little history will be enough to suffice to know whom never to recall. The only case in which i can possibly think Exilium would be bad is if it actively bolsters the mafia's ability to function.

Exilium: Secura, FOS: WE

Despite our discussion last night, I am still not convinced.

Good point, I just don't want to end up giving Catiline any more recruits. I would imagine that who gets recruited is random, and that names probably won't tell very much. Probably just power roles imo.

To convince YLC about something I said to him last night; you should vote the same way, s'easier to prove my claim to him that way.

Do tell. I'd be interested in knowing what you claimed. I'm also a very trustworthy person.

What is your opinion on what has happened so far?

@Csargo:I just want people to talk without putting too much pressure on them. Would you like it if I went with pressure-lynch votes instead?

Yes please.

[Romanic]

Tullanium: God Emperor

It's written on the Senate walls that this man is dangerous!

[ByzantineKnight]

Tullanium: God Emperor

It's written on the Senate walls that this man is dangerous!

It is written on the Senate walls that God Emperor is dangerous, no?