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Originally Posted by Montmorency
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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV
Humans do not have instincts.
Completely incorrect. Base instincts are from the reptilian brain - the amygdala. The social and more complex behavioural instincts come from the limbic system - the mammalian brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV
The distinctly human part of the brain is the frontal cortex - the memory and reasoning centre. THIS is what defines us as humans.
I'm pointing out that our concept of race is based on those specific phenotypes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
Dogs have been forcibly bred, but there's enough evidence to show that humans can be selectively bred in the same way - the Hapsburgs were essentially a "special breed" whose selective intermarriage left them all with very distinctive facial traits - much in the way Pug dogs have been bred.Quote:
Dogs are a poor/unfortunate example when it comes to phenotypes and visible traits. They have a uniquely plastic quality as a species, due to factors that are largely unknown. Cats would be a better example if you really had to go down that route.
None of which changes the fact that you will get no blond Zulus until they inter-marry - which is my soul point.Quote:
Lets go back to the room of Swedes and Zulus again. Lets dramatically oversimplify and imagine they have a list of 1000 traits and genetic variables that can either be a or b. Of those variables, only, say, 25 affect the visible features of skin tone, hair type, face shape and eye colour, etc.
We would expect *some* homogeneity on those 25 traits, but even there we may still get cross over between the groups. Especially as the sample of Zulus and Swedes grows. We may also get some homogeneity on another 25-50 traits, and have another dozen traits here or there where there are novel patterns within subgroups of those groups.
The fact that the vast majority of genetic traits are shares between all humans is not news, but it doesn't change the fact that we have been selectively bred by our ancestors for certain reasons from natural selection to simple aesthetics.
Racism is an instinct?Quote:
We are human, and from our evolutionary heritage are programmed to see visible difference, to identify "others", and to create mental and cultural groupings. This instinct is just an instinct. A pattern of social and cultural behaviour. It isn't borne out by anything scientific.
I find that hard to believe, frankly, because the radical physical differences are relatively recent in our evolution - so late that we are all Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Even so, there are substantial as well as cosmetic differences, the African sicle cell adaptation is one excellent example and irrc the Australian aborigines have working apendixes and can see into the ultra-violet spectrum.
At the other end of the scale Europeans have a genetic immunity to HIV due to the successive waves of plague Europe experienced (this immunity is Northern Europe, Med and even in Arabia but not Southern Africa afaik).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5
You know I always love you and will hold your back if ever in a real clinch... But there are those days I set my love aside and go into praising you instead...Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
Do you have any decent sources for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
Or more precisely this:
It's not just pigmentation that varies between different populations, so if the distinguishing factors of populations were only external physical traits (like colours), then these traits must somehow follow evolutionary rules very distinct from the rest of the genome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
i tend to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV
the cult of narcissistic hypersensitivity; where you believe you are on a moral crusade to speak out against anything that might offend your favoured 'victim' group.
it starts with taking bad words like "racism" and interpreting them so loosely that dictionary definitions become meaningless in order that they can stamp sanctioned disapproval against people who offend that favoured victim group.
Wow Tel Aviv, the response of Hamas, they kinda make it hard for themselves, I am kinda angry and I say stupid things when I am angry, and I am totally aware of that so I'll just say nothing at all.What I don't say is not what I don't think though.
Fragony, what are you talking about? Please don't leave us in the dark, I'm not good at hermeunitics.
A bunch of Israelis (around 10 I think?) got stabbed today on a bus in Tel-Aviv.
If you don't read socalled quality media you aren't left in the dark, you will just read what happened and what the response is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hax
No, I just didn't read today's news yet. Take it easy, bro.
13 wounded, 4 of them heavily is what the filthy, lying, money-stealing mainstream press reports here.
If any non lizard-owned blogs have the truth, the international lizardry has successfully prevented me from finding them yet.
You heard that Boko Haram killed 2000 People on the same day (well within, took them a few days) the Charlie killings. People ho read quality media don't think,reality washes of like water from a duck. What is your explanation of never having heard of the stabbings in Tel Aviv or the truly unsettling killings by Boko Haram.You got some really weird friends in the universe and surroundings if you denie it's just islam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hax
I just said I didn't read the news yet.
My explanation is not having read today's news yet. I've got a paper to hand in and I kind of want to graduate this year, so yeah. Of course, that's probably just part of the EUrabian-Islamic-Reptilian (thanks Husar) conspiracy to keep the truth from the people.Quote:
What is your explanation of never having heard of the stabbings in Tel Aviv or the truly unsettling killings by Boko Haram.
You keep bringing up Islam, it's like..I didn't mention it.Quote:
You got some really weird friends in the universe and surroundings if you denie it's just islam.
No. Most people simply choose to not read anything about that sort of depressing reality stuff. Simpler to skip straight to the section on upcoming concerts and/or a discussion of Kim Kardashian's current posterior dimensions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
:lol: You must forfeit lots of other countries for having similar rules that Israel has. I mean Norway, Greece and The UK have similar rules, would you say they aren't democracies? Even the UN resolution for the partitioning of the land called for Jewish state. So I fail to see how this is against what against democracy. Anyway here if the full text of the legislation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooahguy
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com.au/...l#.VMPUDKJsa3w
Of course "Palestinians" get treated differently from Israelis because they aren't citizens. It like saying Canida is and aprthied state because it doesn't treat Americans as citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
Do you think it is all right to fire from civilian positions?
I'm just wondering how last year a black Jew could possibly become Miss Israel last year. I'm not saying the relationship is perfect, but every nation on the planet has these problems, so I do wonder why Israel gets singled out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Anecdotal evidence; the mayor of Rotterdam is a Morrocan Muslim, that doesn't mean that Moroccan Muslims are necessarily well-integrated in the Netherlands.Quote:
I'm just wondering how last year a black Jew could possibly become Miss Israel last year
Yeah, and I dont like those either. A little difference between those countries you mentioned and Israel though. The right of return in Israel, and basically how most of the country is run, is directly linked to religion while the others are not. Thats the main problem that I have with this. You dont see the UK or Norway using the state religion (which by the way is more ceremonial than a national identity like it is for Israel) to legalize discriminatory policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by classical_hero
I mean I guess if you think checkpoints, fences, concrete dividers, and roads they are prohibited to drive on even while under Israeli military occupation isnt really being treated differently considering the circumstances...Quote:
Of course "Palestinians" get treated differently from Israelis because they aren't citizens. It like saying Canida is and aprthied state because it doesn't treat Americans as citizens.
Do you think its right for the IDF to know this fact and still bomb those positions anyways, knowing that vast numbers of civilians will die because of it? Dont get me wrong, Israel has a right to defend itself, but at a certain point I do wonder if IDF leadership is insane.Quote:
Do you think it is all right to fire from civilian positions?
They really shouldnt be, but Ive lived in Israel before and there is definitely a huge problem. Racism is rampant among native Israelis (not so much the immigrants from Europe and North America) towards Ethiopians. Plus the question still exists for some reason whether or not they are even Jewish among the rabbinical elite.Quote:
I'm just wondering how last year a black Jew could possibly become Miss Israel last year. I'm not saying the relationship is perfect, but every nation on the planet has these problems, so I do wonder why Israel gets singled out.
Or it's like saying South Africa was an apartheid state because it didn't treat blacks as citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by classical_hero