Well I apologize. My point was that certaint laws attempt to enforce morality just as much as religous beliefs do.
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Well I apologize. My point was that certaint laws attempt to enforce morality just as much as religous beliefs do.
Laws are not there to protect moral fabric of society. Laws are there to protect PEOPLE from harm. Look at gay rights, abortion, freedom of speach. All would be null and punishable by death if we lived ina theocracy. Look at Iran, perfect example of what a completely Christian state would be like.
Society is formed so that everyone can prosper and live peacefully in hapiness and laws are why that's even possible. Without laws, with just morals, we'll be back in the dark ages where people were hung for saying there's no god or that the Earth is round(I know, how christian of them).
Sorry, not all laws are there to protect people. Gambling anyone? How is that to protect anyone? Prosititution? People would be more protected if it was legal...
I won't add in drugs again, but many laws are only there to inforce the leader's morality onto the people. Not all of them are bad (outlawing animal sacrifice is good, even if it is based on certaint morals), but the fact is that some laws are indeed morality based.
Again you misconcive this. Prostitution is illigal because for one thing it spreads deseases, for another human society has a certain structure, which means two people have to get married eventually and create a family. How does prostitution fit into this?
Gambling is not illigal everywhere, I heard Las Vegas is doing pretty well. Well one reason to keep it illigal where you live is that gambling is addictive and destroys communities, nothing to do wht good and evil as far as I can see. I can't even find anything in the Bible that makes gambling immoral anyways so where did that idea spring in your head?
Animal sacrifice being illigal is plain stupid. We kill billions if not trillions of animals for our own consuption every year. What's the difference, oh wait I know, one is based on the so called morality of "other" religions. :laugh:Quote:
(outlawing animal sacrifice is good, even if it is based on certaint morals)
Let me repost something to clarify things even more:
Laws are not there to protect moral fabric of society. Laws are there to protect PEOPLE from harm. Look at gay rights, abortion, freedom of speach. All would be null and punishable by death if we lived ina theocracy. Look at Iran, perfect example of what a completely Christian state would be like.
don't get mad BP. it looks like you fell oy your chair out of anger
Again I disagree strongly. Prostitution, if legal would be far safer, as they could check and work with the prostitutes to prevent diseases. Gambling is illegal only due to morality. It only adversley harms a few, and that is there fault. Besides, if someone is a gambling addict, they'll do it anyway.
Perhaps. But anyone that sacrifices animals in this day and age is a monster, just as anyone that tortures animals for fun. Is my view of this based on my Christian upbriging? Probably. It doesn't mean that the law isn't neccasary, or that the law, like other is based on morality.Quote:
Animal sacrifice being illigal is plain stupid. We kill billions if not trillions of animals for our own consuption every year. What's the difference, oh wait I know, one is based on the so called morality of "other" religions.
And I saw your post the first time, thank you.
Hypothetically. What about my family, societal structure argument?Quote:
Prostitution, if legal would be far safer, as they could check and work with the prostitutes to prevent diseases.
The reason the law is there is because of those insane PETA animal rights lobbyists not for any other reason. Again that goes back to human rights, except PETA people think animals are equal to man and therefore we have this stupid law.Quote:
Is my view of this based on my Christian upbriging? Probably. It doesn't mean that the law isn't neccasary, or that the law, like other is based on morality.
Prostitution is not illegal everywhere...
The reason it is illegal almost everywhere may originally be because of religious morals, but it also spreads disease and promotes the subjagation of (mostly) women.
just as using drugs............ HOLLAND
what are meaning when you say sacrifise. OK when you torture a animal for fun you should really question yourself who's the beast. but (if you're not a vegetarian) you also eat meat. ok some things they do are wrong. but why are you a monster when you provide food for millions. if you were starving you wouldn't care where the meat came from. it just have to come.Quote:
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there is no big diffrence between slaughtering a cow with millions at a time or just one. People say it's terrible what they do to these animals. but in the meen (sp?) they just sit in their villas and eat kaviar. while people on the other side of the globe (or just downtown) are starving. and what are those christians doing for those. yeah anual fundraising. but nobody has the guts to go there and see for theirself.
I was talking about torturing, or like gutting a cow for some sort of religous ceromony. Yes I do eat meat, doesn't mean we should act cruelly towards them before we eat them, or hurt them if we don't have to eat them.Quote:
what are meaning when you say sacrifise. OK when you torture a animal for fun you should really question yourself who's the beast. but (if you're not a vegetarian) you also eat meat. ok some things they do are wrong. but why are you a monster when you provide food for millions. if you were starving you wouldn't care where the meat came from. it just have to come.
Wouldn't if it's legal, diseases become more controlable? Like only giving prostitution licences to disease free people?Quote:
Prostitution is not illegal everywhere...
The reason it is illegal almost everywhere may originally be because of religious morals, but it also spreads disease and promotes the subjagation of (mostly) women.
But yeah, my point was it's illegal mainly do to morals.
Many animals I know are far kinder and I love them far more than a number humans I know...Quote:
The reason the law is there is because of those insane PETA animal rights lobbyists not for any other reason. Again that goes back to human rights, except PETA people think animals are equal to man and therefore we have this stupid law.
And it is not a bad thing to protect animals. It is a good thing, as we should protect them, not torture them.
And animal sacrifice (as in slaughtering a chicken for some sort of god) was outlawed in the US before PETA, I believe...
but why can't you slaughter a chicken for a god but you can slaughter a frog for exams. i don't see the difference. if you outlaw the 1st than you must also outlaw the second.
Agreed. I think it's moronic to kill a frog in school, there's no point. There is no medical purpose.