Some trait changes (command stars & cursus honorum)

Thanks for that Lz3.

Oh one other one I was going to use - Darth Stalin's "old" skins for the Marian legionaries - I'd rather have those than oversized centurions.

Lz3 - which version of the city mod did you package up in that zip? A or B?

I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant , the only change was disabling the marakanda roads with a ";"

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Originally Posted by ||Lz3||

I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant , the only change was disabling the marakanda roads with a ";"

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B stopped steppe and barbarian factions being able to grow any settlement beyond a certain size.

so... you're interested in version A or B? cause mine was taken out of A :smash:

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Originally Posted by ||Lz3||

so... you're interested in version A or B? cause mine was taken out of A :smash:

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B, basically. Along with Darth Stalin's alternative skins for Roman legionaries.

If I installed the formation mods, they don't affect any of the other ones we've been talking about, do they?

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Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

B, basically. Along with Darth Stalin's alternative skins for Roman legionaries.

If I installed the formation mods, they don't affect any of the other ones we've been talking about, do they?

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correct none of them interfere with the other ones , though you should use another EDU for darth stalin legionaires , the download version has only one edu :shifty:, I'll send you mine :p

So it's only got the sp edu? I'm fairly certain it used to have an mp one as well.

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Originally Posted by ||Lz3||

Skandinav if I may ask , are you using my mnimod pack in that campaign? :beam: ,that might say that in fact Quintus has had some pretty bad luck with ctd :sweatdrop: , you said that when you started to create units and move characters things started to go bad?

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My apologies, I haven´t seen this before now. Konny; sorry for being off-topic in your thread.
I am using your bundle, Lz3, without the City Mod, and am currently in the year 81 BC in the same campaign. Contrary to the wording of your question I have, through exchange of settlements with FD, created units, added money and moved characters maintained, among other things, historical AI expansion ( which, as we all know, with the given AI means doing this almost every turn ) and events on the strategy map with only one persistent CTD on a single save game slot.
After I began creating decent garrisons for AI factions when having forced upon them change of settlement ownership I have actually had so few CTD´s at all that I do not even bother reloading the game afterwards any more, but creating garrisons in besieged AI homelands have also made me exchange cities far less.

Edit: Lets move this to PM´s instead.

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"1. Added a command star to every level of combat experience (blooded 1 command, veteran 2 command, grizzeld 3 command, STHE 4 command)"

I didn't know there was a higher experience level than grizzled. What's "STHE" and how many battles do you have to fight to get this level of combat experience

Seen the elephant (whatever the heck does that mean <.<) I think you get it after 24 or so battles

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Originally Posted by ||Lz3||

Seen the elephant (whatever the heck does that mean <.<)

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It is a metaphoric term for "veteran". Troops that haven't seen elephants are most likely to panic when facing them; while soldiers who have already "seen the elephant" won't do so.

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Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

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"1. Added a command star to every level of combat experience (blooded 1 command, veteran 2 command, grizzeld 3 command, STHE 4 command)"

I didn't know there was a higher experience level than grizzled. What's "STHE" and how many battles do you have to fight to get this level of combat experience

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"Has Seen the Elephant" - twenty or more battles.

edit:nevermind...

edit: nevermind...

I downloaded the version that Toaster put in his post on the 2nd page.

So I take it that it's 1.1 compatible, does everything that Konny's originally did and it's non-save game compatible? The changes to the battle experience and lover of beauty traits are for all factions and not just Romani?

I haven't installed it yet since using the battle formations mod by Lysander and I'm not sure if this will clash with it.

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Originally Posted by DeathEmperor

I downloaded the version that Toaster put in his post on the 2nd page.

So I take it that it's 1.1 compatible, does everything that Konny's originally did and it's non-save game compatible? The changes to the battle experience and lover of beauty traits are for all factions and not just Romani?

I haven't installed it yet since using the battle formations mod by Lysander and I'm not sure if this will clash with it.

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there used to be something wrong with toaster's files.. sweboz traits got weird characters ... I dont know if he corrected that already ...

and yes it is compatible with formations mod (that is practically ccompatble with anything :P)

Wonderful thank you for answering my questions so quickly Lz3 :smile:

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and yes it is compatible with formations mod (that is practically ccompatble with anything :P)

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Ah I honestly didn't know that :laugh4: Well as the saying goes, "With every passing day there is more knowledge gained."

I finally have a version of the files that fixes the corrupted Sweboz trait descriptions. You can find it at
http://hosted.filefront.com/MedToast

I used notepad to modify the export VnVs file which will preserve the exotic characters used in the Sweboz trait descriptions. The EDCT is completely unchanged so if you already have the mod installed you only have to replace the one file. I am not sure if this is save compatible so if you are starting a new campaign switch but if you are still working world domination I would hold off until you are finished. You can try to apply it to an active save but make sure to backup.

I've got the EB alexander mod installed. can i use this mod with it?

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Originally Posted by hop

I've got the EB alexander mod installed. can i use this mod with it?

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noup :sweatdrop:


well... if you dont mind doing the conversion to alex.exe changes manually you can do it... (bout 10 min)


have you seen the mod compilation?

I have seen the mini-mod. but im not sure if i want all of the features. I just basically wanted to get my generals to have a decent ammount of command stars.

download and apply this minimod and then do this:

NOTE: I suggest using a diferent text editor than windows default notepad...HOWEVER you MUST use windows notepad to mod the ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/text\export_VnVs.txt''

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Edit 3 files
a) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/export_descr_character_traits.txt''
Open the file and add the Immortal description at the end of trait section! That should look like this:


;------------------------------------------
;Trait: CeasesAmbassador
; o Ceases_Ambassador (1):

Trait CeasesAmbassador
Characters diplomat
AntiTraits Ambassador

Level Ceases_Ambassador
Description Ceases_Ambassador_desc
EffectsDescription Ceases_Ambassador_effects_desc
Threshold 1

;------------------------------------------
Trait Immortal
Characters family
Hidden

Level Immortal
Description Immortal_desc
EffectsDescription Immortal_effects_desc
Threshold 1

;------------------------------------------
;Mod: EBMod801 - 12/31/05 : trait to make diplomats better when stationed in a settlement for EB 0.7.2.1
;================================================= ==============
;Section: == TRIGGER DATA STARTS HERE ==
;================================================= ==============

Then save!

Then, In the same folder you should make night_battle trrigers back to use!
That should look like this!:

;------------------------------------------
;NIGHT FIGHTING SECTION
;------------------------------------------
Trigger diet_of_carrots_1
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart

Condition Trait NightBattleCapable = 0
and IsGeneral
and Attribute Command >= 4

Affects NightBattleCapable 6 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger diet_of_carrots_2
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and Attribute Command >= 1
and IsNightBattle
and Trait NightBattleCapable = 0
and WonBattle

Affects NightBattleCapable 6 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger night_battle_crushing_victory_attacker
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition WasAttacker
and IsGeneral
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and BattleOdds < 2
and IsNightBattle

Affects Noctophilia 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger night_battle_crushing_victory_defender
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition not WasAttacker
and IsGeneral
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and BattleOdds < 2
and IsNightBattle

Affects Noctophilia 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger night_battle_crushing_loss_attacker
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition WasAttacker
and IsGeneral
and not WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and BattleOdds >= 0.5
and IsNightBattle

Affects Noctophobia 1 Chance 66

;------------------------------------------
Trigger night_battle_crushing_loss_defender
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition not WasAttacker
and IsGeneral
and not WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and BattleOdds >= 0.5
and IsNightBattle

Affects Noctophobia 1 Chance 66
;------------------------------------------
; StrategicSkill shown by bringing bigger battalions
;------------------------------------------

b) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/export_descr_VnVs_enums.txt''
Open the file and add the specified enums at the far end of the txt file! That should look like this:

Immortal
Immortal_desc
Immortal_effects_desc
Night_Fighter
Night_Fighter_desc
Night_Fighter_effects_desc
Noctophiliac
Noctophiliac_desc
Noctophiliac_effects_desc

Then save !

c) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/text\export_VnVs.txt'' Add one trait and replace one trait ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/text\export_VnVs.txt'' folder!


REPLACE

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{Legendary_Hero} Legendary Hero

{Legendary_Hero_desc}
Like Horatius, this man's bravery knows no bounds. He is rightly famed among Romans as Aeneas reborn, or even a new Romulus!

{Legendary_Hero_effects_desc}
+4 Morale for all troops on the battlefield, +1 Influence

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WITH

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{Legendary_Hero} Legendary Hero

{Legendary_Hero_desc}
Like Horatius, this man's bravery knows no bounds. He is rightly famed among Romans as Aeneas reborn, or even a new Romulus!

{Legendary_Hero_effects_desc}
+4 Morale for all troops on the battlefield, +1 Influence

{Night_Fighter_effects_desc}
+1 Command when fighting at night

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AND ADD

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{Immortal} Immortal

{Immortal_desc}
Hidden immortal trait

{Immortal_effects_desc}
No Effects

That or just add the command stars to "blooded, Grizzled, Veteran and STE"

basically search for "Blooded" in the EDCT file and make it look like this (just add "Effect command [the corresponding number]")

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Level Blooded
        Description Blooded_desc
        EffectsDescription Blooded_effects_desc
        Threshold  2
       
        Effect Command  1

    Level Veteran
        Description Veteran_desc
        EffectsDescription Veteran_effects_desc
        Threshold  5

        Effect Command  2
       
    Level Grizzled
        Description Grizzled_desc
        EffectsDescription Grizzled_effects_desc
        Threshold  10
       
        Effect Command  3

    Level Seen_The_Elephant
        Description Seen_The_Elephant_desc
        EffectsDescription Seen_The_Elephant_effects_desc
        Threshold  25
       
        Effect Command  4

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however this way will only get you the stars... not the cursus honorum

Thats great thanks. never tried doing this before. So i will see what happens! cheers

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Originally Posted by hop

Thats great thanks. never tried doing this before. So i will see what happens! cheers

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did you saw my post above after I edited it?:sweatdrop:

I think I found an easier way to get only the stars :beam:

Yep i saw that thanks. I will use that method instead. Just finding what program to use to edit that edct file. Thanks for the help and quick replies

a note worth mentioning is that you will get the stars... however when you place the cursor over the trait in the character's window it wont say anything about gaining comand stars... if you wish it to represent those changes just open the export_VnVs file (in EB/Data/text folder) with windows default text editor and search again for "blooded" and make it look like this

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{Blooded}        Blooded

{Blooded_desc}
This man has seen battle, and is familiar with giving orders.

{Blooded_effects_desc}
He has commanded at least one battle, and has gained enough experience to understand the nature of command. The men under his command are still likely to lack confidence in him (though some experience is better than none). Command +1. 

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{Veteran}        Veteran

{Veteran_desc}
This man has seen his share of battles, and knows the likely results of his orders.

{Veteran_effects_desc}
He has commanded in at least four battles; his experience makes his men more confident in his abilities. Command +2.

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{Grizzled}        Grizzled

{Grizzled_desc}
This man has commanded many battles, and is well-accustomed to war.

{Grizzled_effects_desc}
He has commanded in at least nine battles; his experience makes his men more confident in his abilities. Command +3.

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{Seen_The_Elephant}        Seen The Elephant

{Seen_The_Elephant_desc}
This man's battles are too many to count!

{Seen_The_Elephant_effects_desc}
He has commanded in twenty-five battles or more; his experience makes his men more confident in his abilities. Command +4.

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good luck :beam: it's not hard at all

You could fix the whole mess by getting rid of the whole convuluted BecomesBetterGeneral and BattlePoints series of traits. If you just use the Vanillaish system of awarding command stars things just work better in less lines. I copied the original triggers, halved the chances of success per tier (split them between GoodLeader and GoodTactician due to the absence of GoodCommander), and now my generals can actually GO UP IN RANK after stunning victories.

Excellent sounding mini-mod, but which version is needed? Sounds like there's an update on the last page rendering the original moot. Is it also incompatible with Alex.exe?

The download on page 1 is for EB 1.0 but the other for EB 1.1. For the ALX.exe you need the immortal trait. I am not sure if this is part of the 1.1 download, but you can easyly ad it using the instruction in the Alex-EB thread here on this forum.

Right, so all I'd need for alex is the 1.1 download and the immortal fix?


edit: thought I knew where it was but no...where can I find the immortal fix?

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Originally Posted by Gnostiko

Right, so all I'd need for alex is the 1.1 download and the immortal fix?


edit: thought I knew where it was but no...where can I find the immortal fix?

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if you enter the alex eb thread there's a section explaining how to change the exe to alexander's, no matter which files you're using

Is it possible to get this working for AlexEB? When I try to use it, either by copy/pasting the files or manually editing it crashes the game or won't even let me start a new campaign. It works fine with alex.exe, but not the alex mod

you need to manually add the changes (no overwriting files)

to do so you need to edit

EDCT

export_vnvs.text (or something in the text folder-NOTE use windows notepad for this one)

export_vnvs (something like that in the data folder)

I suggest downloading winmerge , its a program tha compares 2 files and says in what they're different

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Originally Posted by ||Lz3||

you need to manually add the changes (no overwriting files)

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Hmmm, I thought I would have to, but when I did it last night I couldn't start a new campaign, and my current game crashed when I clicked end turn.

Question: why is it everyone has been pointing out that notepad should be avoided? Is this because of taste or incompatibility?

Konny the link on the first page doesnt seem to work, says the file i'm looking for is not valid. Alright if you check it out?

The link on page 1 is for EB 1.0; you shouldn't use that. There is a link for an EB 1.1 version some pages later.

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Originally Posted by Gnostiko

Question: why is it everyone has been pointing out that notepad should be avoided? Is this because of taste or incompatibility?

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Notepad tends to safe this particular file in the wrong encoding (don't know why it does it).

maybe you could edit first post with the new link though :2thumbsup:

is the 1,1 link also compatible with 1,2?

The 1.1 link is not compatible with 1.2. I will get a new version ready sometime this week.

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Originally Posted by ||Lz3||

download and apply this minimod and then do this:

NOTE: I suggest using a diferent text editor than windows default notepad...HOWEVER you MUST use windows notepad to mod the ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/text\export_VnVs.txt''

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Edit 3 files
a) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/export_descr_character_traits.txt''
Open the file and add the Immortal description at the end of trait section! That should look like this:


;------------------------------------------
;Trait: CeasesAmbassador
; o Ceases_Ambassador (1):

Trait CeasesAmbassador
Characters diplomat
AntiTraits Ambassador

Level Ceases_Ambassador
Description Ceases_Ambassador_desc
EffectsDescription Ceases_Ambassador_effects_desc
Threshold 1

;------------------------------------------
Trait Immortal
Characters family
Hidden

Level Immortal
Description Immortal_desc
EffectsDescription Immortal_effects_desc
Threshold 1

;------------------------------------------
;Mod: EBMod801 - 12/31/05 : trait to make diplomats better when stationed in a settlement for EB 0.7.2.1
;================================================= ==============
;Section: == TRIGGER DATA STARTS HERE ==
;================================================= ==============

Then save!

Then, In the same folder you should make night_battle trrigers back to use!
That should look like this!:

;------------------------------------------
;NIGHT FIGHTING SECTION
;------------------------------------------
Trigger diet_of_carrots_1
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart

Condition Trait NightBattleCapable = 0
and IsGeneral
and Attribute Command >= 4

Affects NightBattleCapable 6 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger diet_of_carrots_2
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and Attribute Command >= 1
and IsNightBattle
and Trait NightBattleCapable = 0
and WonBattle

Affects NightBattleCapable 6 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger night_battle_crushing_victory_attacker
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition WasAttacker
and IsGeneral
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and BattleOdds < 2
and IsNightBattle

Affects Noctophilia 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger night_battle_crushing_victory_defender
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition not WasAttacker
and IsGeneral
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and BattleOdds < 2
and IsNightBattle

Affects Noctophilia 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger night_battle_crushing_loss_attacker
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition WasAttacker
and IsGeneral
and not WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and BattleOdds >= 0.5
and IsNightBattle

Affects Noctophobia 1 Chance 66

;------------------------------------------
Trigger night_battle_crushing_loss_defender
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition not WasAttacker
and IsGeneral
and not WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and BattleOdds >= 0.5
and IsNightBattle

Affects Noctophobia 1 Chance 66
;------------------------------------------
; StrategicSkill shown by bringing bigger battalions
;------------------------------------------

b) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/export_descr_VnVs_enums.txt''
Open the file and add the specified enums at the far end of the txt file! That should look like this:

Immortal
Immortal_desc
Immortal_effects_desc
Night_Fighter
Night_Fighter_desc
Night_Fighter_effects_desc
Noctophiliac
Noctophiliac_desc
Noctophiliac_effects_desc

Then save !

c) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/text\export_VnVs.txt'' Add one trait and replace one trait ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/text\export_VnVs.txt'' folder!


REPLACE

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{Legendary_Hero} Legendary Hero

{Legendary_Hero_desc}
Like Horatius, this man's bravery knows no bounds. He is rightly famed among Romans as Aeneas reborn, or even a new Romulus!

{Legendary_Hero_effects_desc}
+4 Morale for all troops on the battlefield, +1 Influence

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WITH

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{Legendary_Hero} Legendary Hero

{Legendary_Hero_desc}
Like Horatius, this man's bravery knows no bounds. He is rightly famed among Romans as Aeneas reborn, or even a new Romulus!

{Legendary_Hero_effects_desc}
+4 Morale for all troops on the battlefield, +1 Influence

{Night_Fighter_effects_desc}
+1 Command when fighting at night

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AND ADD

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{Immortal} Immortal

{Immortal_desc}
Hidden immortal trait

{Immortal_effects_desc}
No Effects

That or just add the command stars to "blooded, Grizzled, Veteran and STE"

basically search for "Blooded" in the EDCT file and make it look like this (just add "Effect command [the corresponding number]")

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Code:

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Level Blooded
        Description Blooded_desc
        EffectsDescription Blooded_effects_desc
        Threshold  2
       
        Effect Command  1

    Level Veteran
        Description Veteran_desc
        EffectsDescription Veteran_effects_desc
        Threshold  5

        Effect Command  2
       
    Level Grizzled
        Description Grizzled_desc
        EffectsDescription Grizzled_effects_desc
        Threshold  10
       
        Effect Command  3

    Level Seen_The_Elephant
        Description Seen_The_Elephant_desc
        EffectsDescription Seen_The_Elephant_effects_desc
        Threshold  25
       
        Effect Command  4

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however this way will only get you the stars... not the cursus honorum

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when i add the command stars to "blooded, Grizzled, Veteran and STE" and load up the game it ctd? the only thing i do is open the EDCT file and add the effect command 1

Make sure you have saved the file in the right format (notepad tends to save it in the wrong format when simply hitting "save").

I have finally got around to modifying this for EB 1.2. Sorry for the delay for those waiting for the file. This is not a save compatible mod. The latest version is Trait Mod for 12. Here is the link

http://hosted.filefront.com/MedToast

Yes, awesome! :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Medical Toaster

I have finally got around to modifying this for EB 1.2. Sorry for the delay for those waiting for the file. This is not a save compatible mod. The latest version is Trait Mod for 12. Here is the link

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I think it can be Savegame compatible... since... you didn't re-arrange the traits, did you?
As far as I know, changes in the effects of traits are save game compatible. Even adding new traits (at the end of the file) is save game compatible...

I have not tested it, but I bealive that is the thing. :shrug:

I thought that you can change the triggers but the traits themselves can't be changed to be save compatible. In truth, I have never tried it. Perhaps someone with more wisdom can enlighten us.

:jester:
Very Well Done MT!!! Thanks a lot!!:balloon2:

I was thinking... Why the trait descr has changed from "Tribvnvs Plebis" to "Tribvnis Plebis"? Or "Tribvnvs Militum" to "Tribvnis Milita"?

:inquisitive:
That puts me in a latin grammar confusion... Checking the vocabularium...:martass: ...Hanging myself...:freak:

hi konni. i tried to download this minimod, but they say the link is not on use anymore....

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Originally Posted by belliger

hi konni. i tried to download this minimod, but they say the link is not on use anymore....

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Try the latest link provided by medical toaster, it should be around the last pages. :medievalcheers:

thanks. i will search.
:2thumbsup:

hi all. is this mod compatible with the ferromancer's minimod 'EB for BI'?
should i install it before or after the installing of EB4BI?

I think you did not mod the ancillary files ; export_descr_ancillaries, descr_ancillaries. that is what I did in my mod :laugh4:

So if you can confirm this I will declare my mod is competable with your mod.
I had to change my codes for city mod now it is competable with it.:sweatdrop: I hope not another dejavu... :no:

No, this only changes EDCT.

I've installed this mod and its been 50 turns and I haven't had anyone elected to any offices. Is anyone else having this problem or can figure out why this is happening? My people have high influence and other stats.

So it's compatible with the extended offices mod? :-P :-P :-P

Yes. :beam:

The 1.2 version can't be downloaded...

The recent filefront upheavals seems to have deleted a lot of files, I lost some myself.

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Originally Posted by konny

Make sure you have saved the file in the right format (notepad tends to save it in the wrong format when simply hitting "save").

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:help:Konny, as I want to do some trait modding myself, could you please enlighten me on how to save it in the correct format in notepad? Great idea though, turning off command penalties for Lover of Beauty. :2thumbsup:

Looks like filefront deleted this one too. Does anyone have a copy you can send me?

same problem. could someone upload that files again?

also medical toasters (great name ;) ) files are lost...

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Originally Posted by Julius Augustus

:help:Konny, as I want to do some trait modding myself, could you please enlighten me on how to save it in the correct format in notepad?

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You need a better text editor like Crimson for example: http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

The download link doesnt work anymore :(

can anyone get a new link up, the old one doesn't work. and is this compatible with the EB for BI mod?

Can somebody please re-upload it :(?

Hello Konny, Long time no see! Tell me, is this mini-mod concept to be present in EBII? Seen some people asking for a new link, the old ones are broken somehow! Tell me it is implemented in the mod-pack?
Cheers!

Guys, does someone have the files for this mod? could someone upload them? I would really like to start a new SPQR campaign, this time going to 14 AD, but i don't want to play the game without this mod:embarassed:

help help help.

Edit:

Actually i think i found a way around it, if anyone alse is interested. I downloaded the mini-mod pack, extracted it in a folder on my desktop, and then just choose those 2 files and put them where they are supposed to be.

I tried a few turns, and the command stars are working, however my FM still have -3influnce (those who are plebeians) so i'm not sure if this bypass actually works.

hope it helps anyone

Could some one please upload this mod again? Anubis is right but I still think it'd be nicer if you can download this mod seperately somewhere. Thank you, it sounds great !

i subscribe with DionCaesar:
Could some one please upload this mod again? Anubis is right but I still think it'd be nicer if you can download this mod seperately somewhere. Thank you, it sounds great !

Here's a working dl link for you all, just use (free) 7zip to unzip the files.

http://www.wupload.com/file/18810109...raitchanges.7z



7zip: http://www.7-zip.org/

BTW I hate these popup ridden uploading sites as much as anyone else, if there's a better place to upload these to just let me know and I will as well.

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Originally Posted by mlc82

Here's a working dl link for you all, just use (free) 7zip to unzip the files.

http://www.wupload.com/file/18810109...raitchanges.7z



7zip: http://www.7-zip.org/

BTW I hate these popup ridden uploading sites as much as anyone else, if there's a better place to upload these to just let me know and I will as well.

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Thank you man. Saved me from a lot of trouble.

~Jirisys ()

Unfortuantly I do not have this mod in this form any longer. I am currently working on a much larger project with the EB traits (not sure if I can get that finished at all). That is I am tinkering around with the triggers in generals. That's what I am aiming at:

Lesser traits per character in general
I don't want to get back to the vanilla system where each charatcer often had no more five or six traits, but I think the ammount of traits each FM usually acquires in EB is a bit over the top, in particular for roleplayers.

I am first of all thinking of removing redundant traits, that is checking if two traits are in fact saying the same about the character. In this case one can go and the other one might have a stronger effect. There are also a couple of traits that don't do anything at all, despite often promising to have an influence on the character, such as the "nobile" trait for Romans. Even though in these cases I would rather prefer to give them a meaning.

More focus on the basic character
This is a bit underdeveloped in EB. There are indeed three different sets of basic character traits (of which you only see one, the "ICE rating"), but these are hardly called for in the triggers. Most traits your characters have are assigned based on their ethnicity when they enter the game, often without checking for the basic traits. Others are awarded based on certain building in the towns they stay in, also here often without checking if the basic character is fitting that trait. That's for example the reason why suddenly all your characters end up as athetistic alcoholics: they are sitting in towns with taverns and academies.

More balance in attributes
While it is close to impossible to acquire one command star most characters have no problems amassing 10 points in administration and influence. Neither seems right to me. That's a bit difficult to achieve though.

Stop of ancillery spamming
I would rather turn around the way ancs work EB: now the characters instantly get lots of ancs (and eight is the maximum), in particular when sitting in a town with academy (and hating the gods meanwhile). These ancs also give them certain traits, or promotes the acquisition of certain traits. I would prefer instead when the ancs would be given only after the FM had already achieved a certain level in the traits in question.

Another negative effect of the way ancillaries are awarded now is that the majority of them go unused. That's because your characters always get the same set of clerks, bodyguards, tutors etc. and quickly have the maximum of eight. In order to see the other ancs (or use for example the Roman govermental system) you desperatly have to avoid your characters entering towns with academies.

Removal of unsupported concepts
Some good ideas are unfortuantly not realy feasonable with this game engine. One example would be the "forced marching" concept. It would be nice to have that in game, but unfortuantly it can not be properly displayed by the means we have: it is close to impossible, at least for me, to have my characters not spending more than 2/3 of their movement points in order to not acquire that trait.

The same can be said about the attempt to implement logisitics via the trait system ("well supplied" to "starving").

All links are dead and unfortunately I lost files from my HDD. After announcement of RTW 2 I want to play RTW with some great modification once again and Europa Barbarorum is best and this minimod is very helpful. Has anyone else this minimod? Can you reupload this minimod again please? This newest link http://www.wupload.com/file/18810109...raitchanges.7z allow download only your own files not other. Thanks in advance

Which files does this actually need? I can't even access my old upload but I should still have them, I know it was a couple of the data files. If someone can enlighten me I'll gladly re up them.

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Originally Posted by mlc82

Which files does this actually need? I can't even access my old upload but I should still have them, I know it was a couple of the data files. If someone can enlighten me I'll gladly re up them.

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the pack name is konnytraitchanges.7z
and the files which are in pack, I dont know/remember what exactly files but I think that which edites the character traits and/or anciliaries
like descr_traits.txt or descr_character_traits.txt or something that I cant remember exactly name of file/files

Here you go, still had it in my EB Backup folder. Enjoy and pm me if it doesn't work or goes down.

http://www.mediafire.com/?fttn6ckiv9mk54y

thank you man, you are my hero ~:cheers:

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Originally Posted by mlc82

Here you go, still had it in my EB Backup folder. Enjoy and pm me if it doesn't work or goes down.

http://www.mediafire.com/?fttn6ckiv9mk54y

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I think this mod is broken from this link. Can anyone confirm? The command stars work but the influence from Patricius/Plebeius seems broken. It's supposed to remove the -3 influence penalty for being Plebeian but it doesn't. The "Plebeivs" trait still gives a -3 influence penalty and it's not simply a mistake in the text because if you begin a new game and add up all the influence-giving traits of Curius Dentatus he should have a full 10 influence (12 actually but 10 is max) and yet he has 7. That's because the -3 influence for the Plebeivs trait still applies.