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Originally Posted by Syn

fake read tbh

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

HK as town tends to do risky/off the wall scumreads more than townreads, and very rarely do I see HK commit to a "THIS IS 100% TOWN" so early on D1.

Where as wolf I've seen him make that turn play more.

Hope that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Yes.

This is exactly why I'm wolfreading him lmao.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

I have not much thought on pzelda but ngl the fact that the wagon showed up when HK was first getting voted too feels kinda weirdchamp.

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Originally Posted by Syn

when ender tried to explode open the POE and I shut it down, baudib responded that I made a great post

and baudib all day has been making noises in support of an ender chop, even coming to blows with ender himself

but now suddenly ender might have a point, and what do you know, we should really be widening the POE and looking elsewhere

even with the association between hk/ender in his post, he ends on the assumption of what happens after we chop HK, not Ender

his post exclusively serves to save ender and push suspicion on everyone else.

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@EnderWiggin look Syn thinks I’m saving you.

Btw dya made some posts earlier today that really reinforced my V read on them

dya, Rask, and baudi in my top tier of towniness

(and happy birthday to the little one, such a precious time in life)

Does anyone have a strong take on Ephemeral?

I'm especially curious as to what people who have played with him more think. I don't think I've actually played a game with him, just seen him in the Discord server

I'm not sure what alignment he is. But the thing is, I find the timing of his votes and even the questions he's asked to generally be reasonable. Like I'm not sure I can actually point to something he's done and say "yeah that's wolfy af" as opposed to a player who's hard chillin

This is not a town read. That said I'm brainstorming because tbh I came into this game hoping to do very little as town and if he's town he prolly came in with the same mindset lul

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

I, too, am lightly inclined to think Rask is a villa off pure vibe/comfortability, I v read his syn/hk bussing shitpost lmao

I am lightly leaning V on baudi cuz he has a mix of playfulness/seriousness that I’m reading from a mindset of being excited to play in a good pl after months of torture on MU. I guess he would try to dunk on us as a wolf but it feels cromulent enough for now in italics

Idk on the HK/Syn thing, I haven’t played with HK in years but I remember him making bold statements as both alignments, might try to parse that whole exchange when I’m not sneaking away to post at work lul

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keeping this post in mind for later. This is like the first non shitpost of his and it's not very exciting

Dont mind his read on my opener, kind of think it's NAI for yolo tbh

votes zelda, kind of buy the derp that they didnt know pzelda is capage. Feel like it's easy to fake but a wolf bro would know? super light feeling from that.

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).

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@pzelda

Can you talk me through your process/language on the underlined? Was there something about the HK/Syn interaction that made you think both were villagery initially?

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I have thoughts on the first post for later, putting this down for own reference

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kind of like this post. not a ton, but it feels like a genuine question/the nuance in it is ok.

dont think yolo/hk makes a lot of sense as a team

kind of like yolo's ender suspicion.

d2 play kind of sucked especially with sk's flip

honestly, my gut says he's not a wolf. I liked his thought process d1. I would have liked more of that d2 but d3 is better imo

I kind of want to believe in the hk/ender/pzelda world. They all are about the same level of wolfy and every time I read someone else, I come back thinking they're really v

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

Does anyone have a strong take on Ephemeral?

I'm especially curious as to what people who have played with him more think. I don't think I've actually played a game with him, just seen him in the Discord server

I'm not sure what alignment he is. But the thing is, I find the timing of his votes and even the questions he's asked to generally be reasonable. Like I'm not sure I can actually point to something he's done and say "yeah that's wolfy af" as opposed to a player who's hard chillin

This is not a town read. That said I'm brainstorming because tbh I came into this game hoping to do very little as town and if he's town he prolly came in with the same mindset lul

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i feel nothing about them

[QUOTE=hollowkatt;2053841623]that said ender isn't playing this game like any wolf game I've seen him play, he's a very competent wolf. [/QUOTE @hollowkatt

Can you plz talk more about this, what nuances are you seeing?

you really cant seem to keep quotes from breaking huh?

Something about the HK/Ender interactions are off as hell

This is "no shit sherlock" tier but the way they came out today both pushing baudi who I think is obvious town and the way they're like mutually townreading each other feels off, like there is some weird pocketing shit going on

@ ender

Can you link/detail more on your reasons for sussing baudi? Like it seems you think town is completely wrong rn, what makes baudi the "wolf in towncore" wolf for you?

Yolo here's my problem with you right now:

I don't view you as an egocentric player. You're not like a Batman whose on another level and then blames his mistakes for people not being on his level. You're not like a "I'm great and you're a potato, you don't get to question me" type of thing.

So I find it really weird for you to frame the NKs around "people who thought I was villa are dead and no one will comment on that." Like I find it hard to believe that you think the NKs are planned based on reducing your support. If we want to go down this path then I'd say you shrug-yeeting SK when he thought you were a top wolf candidate isn't a good look.

idk i kind of think pzelda's interactions with yolo and yolo's interaction with pzelda aren't w/w. That plus I've understood and agreed with multiple yolo takes

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Originally Posted by dyachei

idk i kind of think pzelda's interactions with yolo and yolo's interaction with pzelda aren't w/w. That plus I've understood and agreed with multiple yolo takes

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Yolo is an elite distancer imo. Yolo and I did sort of a fusion powerwolf game with each other, calling each other top towns, and doing hard-distancing from our third partner in a game like this once. We did lots and lots of "Idk if a wolf ever talks about his partner like this" posts.

FWIW

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

Something about the HK/Ender interactions are off as hell

This is "no shit sherlock" tier but the way they came out today both pushing baudi who I think is obvious town and the way they're like mutually townreading each other feels off, like there is some weird pocketing shit going on

@ ender

Can you link/detail more on your reasons for sussing baudi? Like it seems you think town is completely wrong rn, what makes baudi the "wolf in towncore" wolf for you?

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but then, I just really fking agree with this take lmao

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Yolo is an elite distancer imo. Yolo and I did sort of a fusion powerwolf game with each other, calling each other top towns, and doing hard-distancing from our third partner in a game like this once. We did lots and lots of "Idk if a wolf ever talks about his partner like this" posts.

FWIW

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yes but it's from both sides which makes it less likely

@ladd how close are you to locking in a V dya read. Cuz I’m pretty much there but I would like to stop this dya-Yolo tinfoil.

Oh thanks Dya for quoting back this post! That's what I meant earlier today when I said to Syn I was waiting for swag's followups (which nick do u prefer btw? swag or yolo? I'd say swag is more swag)

[QUOTE=YOLOSWAG;2053840707]

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).[/QUOTE @pzelda

Can you talk me through your process/language on the underlined? Was there something about the HK/Syn interaction that made you think both were villagery initially?

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I have thoughts on the first post for later, putting this down for own reference

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I really want to hear your thoughts about the bold thing @YOLOSWAG

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

I don't follow your line of questioning earlier or how you found any of my posts wolfy

I am the most villagery player in the game and am the most free spew read from the flipped wolf, I feel like you'd see this pretty easily in conjunction with the bangers I have been posting

I feel like there has been a fair amount of sentiment against me this phase, I can see some other players struggling with the read (my 2 voters are people I've wolfed with who probably remember my wolf play more than my village game) but not you. But more importantly I distinctly remember you pushing me as a wolf in a few V/W games we've had for reasons that weren't great, I'm playing with the idea you might have been doing the same thing here

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i didnt really find your posts anythig which is why i am trying to poking you to get some reaction

i am inclined to think it's a villagery reaction so congrats (tho you thinking you are the most villagery player is ???)



god knows i have been lazy as a villager in a ton of games so i won't crucify anyone for being lazy here but i am feeling it really hard to get a read on you/eph when i feel like i should probably have one. like you were so sure sk was a wolf that you didnt even bother to check in second half on d2?

Possibly horrendous take but a D3+ ladd/dya/Yolo/Rask/syn//visor/baud village team does not lose to precisely HK/Ender ever. So maybe we should swing for the fences and aim for a deeper wolf.

[QUOTE=YOLOSWAG;2053840707]

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).[/QUOTE @pzelda

Can you talk me through your process/language on the underlined? Was there something about the HK/Syn interaction that made you think both were villagery initially?

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I have thoughts on the first post for later, putting this down for own reference

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lmao. Swag broken quotes broke mine. :bow:

The post from pzelda you had thoughts was:

"Is remarkableness a word? I agree that HK is crying. He's a sensitive fella. Not sure if he lives up north enough to be frozen."

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Originally Posted by baudib1

@ladd how close are you to locking in a V dya read. Cuz I?m pretty much there but I would like to stop this dya-Yolo tinfoil.

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ya thats fine

i am at me/rask/you/dya/syn villa, wolves in the rest

still don't think hk/ender is the team shrug.jpg so someone in yolo/eph/visor is a wolf imo

with that being said if we lunch a wolf in hk/ender i am cool with having the joat rb the other just so people can move on with their lives

argllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll this is cursed

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

and ya afaik hk sometimes makes off the wall comments regardless of alignment

what bothers me is how he went radio silent after getting heat for it though

realistically the timing can be purely coincidental but that's just how it has me feeling atm

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if hk is a wolf, this is a good look for ephem

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

would it be fair of me to say c4 is probably a villager simply because his early game hasn't looked nearly as forced/awkward as the other recent game where he got caught d1

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this read is pretty decent

votes HK a little while later then switches to pzelda

dont really like that ephem cant get a read on me since I think i've been pretty obvious this game

actually really like this following post from ephem

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

appreciate the response bud

I don't have an issue with your dya read, the thought process seems reasonable given the context of last game(though whether I agree with the conclusion is still up in the air)

But I would like you to elaborate on Ender, I'm not seeing nearly as much depth there vs your dya read

you called him out earlier saying he should "know better", but you yourself said that you're playing similarly to the previous game where you completely pocketed the guy and practically demolished him yes?

what's making him a wolf instead of a potential villager who's aggressively paranoid of you after that game for example?

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i dont really think that ephem can be with hk unless ephem decided pre game to bus the fuck out of hk

and if its hk/ender and i am wrong y'all can laugh at me postgame so it's a win/win

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Possibly horrendous take but a D3+ ladd/dya/Yolo/Rask/syn//visor/baud village team does not lose to precisely HK/Ender ever. So maybe we should swing for the fences and aim for a deeper wolf.

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lmao. Stop being wolfy. We will loose if we look for the deeper wolf first.

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Originally Posted by ladd

and if its hk/ender and i am wrong y'all can laugh at me postgame so it's a win/win

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i keep trying to find someone outside that pairing and coming up short. Like I might entertain a baudib w read to get outside but i'm really having a hard time with it

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

Does anyone have a strong take on Ephemeral?

I'm especially curious as to what people who have played with him more think. I don't think I've actually played a game with him, just seen him in the Discord server

I'm not sure what alignment he is. But the thing is, I find the timing of his votes and even the questions he's asked to generally be reasonable. Like I'm not sure I can actually point to something he's done and say "yeah that's wolfy af" as opposed to a player who's hard chillin

This is not a town read. That said I'm brainstorming because tbh I came into this game hoping to do very little as town and if he's town he prolly came in with the same mindset lul

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man I've read your recent posts and have been thinking you could be a wolf

but the whole two peas in a pond thing w/r/t our apparent mindset and approach scares tf outta me lol

i'll be back tomorrow

adieu

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Possibly horrendous take but a D3+ ladd/dya/Yolo/Rask/syn//visor/baud village team does not lose to precisely HK/Ender ever. So maybe we should swing for the fences and aim for a deeper wolf.

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oh maybe I read this wrong (aka you meant with the current reads this group has, re nka etc etc).

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

oh maybe I read this wrong (aka you meant with the current reads this group has, re nka etc etc).

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but at the same time, you have been posting about it for a fair amount of time. So my first reaction is still legit. If you are villa, we got it.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

i keep trying to find someone outside that pairing and coming up short. Like I might entertain a baudib w read to get outside but i'm really having a hard time with it

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dya this legit,
My first post in this game was true, if was a wolf in this game I would demand we NK you first because that game you subbed in for Benneh in a 13ee years ago, you were terrifying, just insta-fired off a 10/11 read list and we killed you before you ever gained any real thread status. I also think you would be the hardest person to pocket, so I’d kill you 100/100.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

i keep trying to find someone outside that pairing and coming up short. Like I might entertain a baudib w read to get outside but i'm really having a hard time with it

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You said Yolo/HK doen't work, walk me though it pls.

A demain Ladd (not burning another post for this)

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Originally Posted by ladd

ya thats fine

i am at me/rask/you/dya/syn villa, wolves in the rest

still don't think hk/ender is the team shrug.jpg so someone in yolo/eph/visor is a wolf imo

with that being said if we lunch a wolf in hk/ender i am cool with having the joat rb the other just so people can move on with their lives

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if I absolutely had to pick one I could wrong about in nl/yolo rn I have to say yolo purely because of ~less overall villagery posts in a vacuum

but I have a hard time coming to terms with him having more wolf equity than any of ender/hk given their posts and just the general feeling that we've been taking similar approaches to the game

nl i wouldn't reeval until like f5(which is the same place I have you in), beyond the fact that we've been on the same page a lot throughout d1, i just think his posts have been generally good

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Possibly horrendous take but a D3+ ladd/dya/Yolo/Rask/syn//visor/baud village team does not lose to precisely HK/Ender ever. So maybe we should swing for the fences and aim for a deeper wolf.

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ok let's kill you

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

You said Yolo/HK doen't work, walk me though it pls.

A demain Ladd (not burning another post for this)

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take a look at yolo's ISO. he goes after HK hard and like ALL of d1

it doesnt feel like a bus to me. Like ephem doesnt just agree with my read of HK, he reads the other game and forms his own read off of it.

I said it could be horrendous FFS! Being horrendous is like the staple of my village meta, so I declare myself LACK CLAIRE.

Carry in.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

take a look at yolo's ISO. he goes after HK hard and like ALL of d1

it doesnt feel like a bus to me. Like ephem doesnt just agree with my read of HK, he reads the other game and forms his own read off of it.

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DId he vote there? Did he try to flip HK? I don't remember it being the case. (maybe a RVS early on but not after he voted pzelda - which I think has decent chances to be a bus if you read my previous post about it today - around the time you came itt)

to list some possibilities

hk/ender
hk/yolo
yolo/ender

what gives me pause in the hk/ender "easy" world could be summarized as "wtf were wolves doing", the progression between the 3 of them has been fucking bizarre to say the least

but in that world the wolves would've also been dealing with 2 of them being railroaded pretty much right off the bat so I could see it as them just floundering after the fact thus rendering "what's the plan" type of reads less useful

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

DId he vote there? Did he try to flip HK? I don't remember it being the case. (maybe a RVS early on but not after he voted pzelda - which I think has decent chances to be a bus if you read my previous post about it today - around the time you came itt)

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yes he did. then was hoping for more discussion from hk when he voted pzelda

I dont think that makes it more likely to be a bus

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Originally Posted by dyachei

take a look at yolo's ISO. he goes after HK hard and like ALL of d1

it doesnt feel like a bus to me. Like ephem doesnt just agree with my read of HK, he reads the other game and forms his own read off of it.

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He wasnt that hard on hk iyam

Hk was under fire from like pg. 3 also

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Originally Posted by ladd

He wasnt that hard on hk iyam

Hk was under fire from like pg. 3 also

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ok, i mean i disagree with that with the way he approached Hk. didnt feel like he was trying to find an out for HK or anything imo

@YOLOSWAG

Remember the game where I said “I’m sitting in wolfchat with Abraxas and Grant and trying to decide to kill Viggorous”? And you said you had never seen a wolf name his whole team like that.

Do you think the Pzelda “HK is never a wolf unless he’s a wolf with Ender” is on that level of uniqueness? It’s not really comparable because I wasn’t in antispew but like, how unlikely is it even then.

I'll reread D1 with that in mind Dya to see if I agree

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

DId he vote there? Did he try to flip HK? I don't remember it being the case. (maybe a RVS early on but not after he voted pzelda - which I think has decent chances to be a bus if you read my previous post about it today - around the time you came itt)

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i did vote hk, not in rvs

but I did ease up considerably on actively trying to flip him after pzelda and logic shenanigans

which actually brings me to another point I've been thinking about, hk made a post earlier calling nl out for "trying to wolf read him but not actually doing anything with it"

from an outsider perspective I imagine reading my posts/progression on hk specifically would look very similar, at least up until I moved off of ender today

what I find odd about it is the fact that hk not once mentioned something like this when talking about me

makes me feel like he's not actually reading the posts

VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 4 Visor Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin
yoloswag 1 baudib1
EnderWiggin 1 Syn
ladd 1 YOLOSWAG


MAJ is in effect and is 6
EOD is 7pm eastern on 2/8/23

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

i did vote hk, not in rvs

but I did ease up considerably on actively trying to flip him after pzelda and logic shenanigans

which actually brings me to another point I've been thinking about, hk made a post earlier calling nl out for "trying to wolf read him but not actually doing anything with it"

from an outsider perspective I imagine reading my posts/progression on hk specifically would look very similar, at least up until I moved off of ender today

what I find odd about it is the fact that hk not once mentioned something like this when talking about me

makes me feel like he's not actually reading the posts

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I was talking about Yoloswag Ephe, not you lol

But fair point. overnight I thought HK wasn't following up with his stuff. I will try to bring some quotes l8r

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 4 Visor Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin
yoloswag 1 baudib1
EnderWiggin 1 Syn
ladd 1 YOLOSWAG


MAJ is in effect and is 6
EOD is 7pm eastern on 2/8/23

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anyone else skeeved out by the baudib wagon??

let's kill wiggin *clap, clap, clap clap clap*

let's kill wiggin *clap, clap, clap clap clap*

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Originally Posted by Syn

let's kill wiggin *clap, clap, clap clap clap*

let's kill wiggin *clap, clap, clap clap clap*

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vote: ender

fwiw, i think hk looks worse than ender but I keep getting caught up in these reads and I cant shake that they are both w

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Originally Posted by dyachei

anyone else skeeved out by the baudib wagon??

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villageriest people ITT voting him :curtain:

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Originally Posted by dyachei

fwiw, i think hk looks worse than ender but I keep getting caught up in these reads and I cant shake that they are both w

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HK's play is colossally bad ye

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Originally Posted by Syn

HK's play is colossally bad ye

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but sunk cost dictates that i continue believing he's town

I want HK/Ender to win now because I want to see power wolfing from the bottom of the PoE to become the new thing.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I was talking about Yoloswag Ephe, not you lol

But fair point. overnight I thought HK wasn't following up with his stuff. I will try to bring some quotes l8r

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ephem do you still think I'm hard to read today?

and one more question: do you think the w reads on you are justified?

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Originally Posted by dyachei

ephem do you still think I'm hard to read today?

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i've been struggling to get a read on you for the vast majority of the time simply because you were too deep in the background whereas in the games I can recall seeing you village in you were usually a lot more actively engaged with the game, thus making it easier for me to see how much you cared to solve the game

I do recognize now that you were just busy(hbd mini-dya!) and the issue lies mainly with me because I don't think I've got a very solid grasp on the micro side of your game so I mostly rely on the macro to read you which I feel is harder to see when available content is minimal

that said, I do have you as more likely a villager than not atm based on your posting today specifically

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Originally Posted by dyachei

and one more question: do you think the w reads on you are justified?

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...meh

tbh I think that despite my very laidback approach from the beginning I also made myself findable enough generally speaking

but I suppose I can't say I'm surprised either given the fact that I went MIA for basically the entire of d2, so it is what it is

Vote: EnderWiggin

i got a long day today, so prob won't be around till tonight until i can motion detect raskols mum

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Originally Posted by Visor

Vote: EnderWiggin

i got a long day today, so prob won't be around till tonight until i can motion detect raskols mum

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thank you and lol

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I'll reread D1 with that in mind Dya to see if I agree

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Dya, this is all posts from Swag mentionning HK D1 (or even hinting at him in the post he talks about Ender's treatment of wolf bros)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I wanted to call Syn town for not caring that much, but I think I should actually call HK town for having the same reaction to Syn's entrance (the one about wolves in the thread).

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@pzelda

Can you talk me through your process/language on the underlined? Was there something about the HK/Syn interaction that made you think both were villagery initially?

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I have thoughts on the first post for later, putting this down for own reference

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

Is this a general sentiment of being wronged by the village or shading of me? Or are you saying wolves are pushing you?

I remember you being pretty solvey as town, you seem to have shut down here after some early pressure, sup

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

They can both die and idc

that is my honest answer. pzelda if you want a preference/pending a response from HK

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

I was playing with the idea that this:

might be towny. I think Ender stretched at times but I'm not sure it's a wolf versus a villager who's experiencing paranoia/skepticism of wagon formations and trying to find non-consensus wolves off it

Basically I'm asking myself why Ender does this as a wolf unless it's specifically to deflect from a partner (I am not sure how Ender tends to treat his bros as a wolf, would appreciate any meta on this)

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

I mostly just want to hear from HK at this point, kinda wish I had read this game earlier because I think content from HK/Syn is needed to advance the gamestate but we're not getting enough

Beyond that I think Wisdom had a villagery post earlier where she postulated wolves in ladd/pzelda/logic -- I cannot find the words as to why that was villagery but for Wisdom specifically I think it is

Ephe I agree has been middle of the pack but he might also be chill villager like me so he's existing in this 'let him be, a read will come' headspace for me which is kinda funny cuz he did the same to me earlier

Visor is a weak V read, kinda surprised I'm lower than SK/Logic/Syn but his wrestling with me/Ephem shows some nuance, lettuce see what comes of it

That's all off the top of my head

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I don't think it makes them unaligned tbh. (no follow ups re the weird post from pzelda about HK, prefers the former over the later, minor meta push on villa!HK expected activity)
On contrary, it looks like light distancing to me. But I welcome opinions.

I just love how baudib opened the game with a spoiler telling the wolves will TR him and Swag claimed Baudib is his top villa in his first post lol.

i swear to god, if you make everyone flash-wagon YOLO at EOD, I am going to reveal your darkest secrets to the world

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

this is a thing to think about though. Why kill Wisdom over literally any other townie? I don't recall her making a large impact, she didn't lead the pzelda wagon, she was on ladd when she died and a wolf team that contains ladd is smarter than killing the only person on his wagon. Might be worth looking into if it hasn't been done already.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I was talking about Yoloswag Ephe, not you lol

But fair point. overnight I thought HK wasn't following up with his stuff. I will try to bring some quotes l8r

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I checked and I actually got HK mixed with Swag about this.
The other points I've made about him stands though.

Peacing out for tonight. (my mum is power killing Visor tonight. glgl)

Alright I’ll stop my open wolfing arc, probably overthinking it.

vote: enderwiggin

for now

Hey Raskolinov, look at that HK quote again.
That’s a pretty interesting perspective IMO from a townie, even one who obviously got heat D1. It’s like he’s someone talking about townies as people other than himself.

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Hey Raskolinov, look at that HK quote again.
That’s a pretty interesting perspective IMO from a townie, even one who obviously got heat D1. It’s like he’s someone talking about townies as people other than himself.

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heh that was a quote drama but I can see what you say. I am prolly not weighting it in my read though. (that's the cherry, not the cake)

VOTE TALLY


EnderWiggin 4 Syn dyachei Visor baudib1
hollowkatt 3 Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin
ladd 1 YOLOSWAG




MAJ is in effect and is 6
EOD is in about 24hours-ish at 7pm eastern on 2/8/23

I think I am going to totally disrespect visor’s deepwolf game because I really just can’t see it.

Imagine you bus your bro pretty hard D1, I agree it’s an easy spot and that wagon ain’t pure, it seems most people agree.

He’s calling for Logic to get poisoned, votes SK and peaced out, talks about a D2 sweep, checks back in, wavers on SK in much the same manner as ladd/me. SK flipping V probably looks worse for me out of that group.

There’s the minor frustration at not being considered too towncore if either Logic/SK flip W, but he’s not being a dramatic about it.
Then comes in today and is angry at Logic for turtling in that fashion.

That’s a whole range of epic perfomative emotions if he has TMI.

A wolf who busses his bro is probably not that keen into taking a lead role in two villagers deaths immediately because I don’t think a wolf really understands the exact line where his town cred drops. He would be a bit more cautious and let someone else take blame for it.

Also the mindmeld over pretending we were CFDing Logic is also amazing and like, the two people who seemed to really think that could happen were…uh… HK and Ender. Lmao

Conclusion: They’re just too weird and too aligned in non-towny reactions to go anywhere else now.

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Dya, this is all posts from Swag mentionning HK D1 (or even hinting at him in the post he talks about Ender's treatment of wolf bros)

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I don't think it makes them unaligned tbh. (no follow ups re the weird post from pzelda about HK, prefers the former over the later, minor meta push on villa!HK expected activity)
On contrary, it looks like light distancing to me. But I welcome opinions.

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like I said, from both sides, it doesnt really

visor, if you're still around i kind of want to hear what you're thinking here

dead thread is dead

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visor, if you're still around i kind of want to hear what you're thinking here

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on what

i just want to say i sometimes hate when people say x/y can't be together and people find it shocking that you can wolfread two people independently (or even as a team differently to you)

(yes this is a minor call out of ladd)

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Originally Posted by baudib1

I think I am going to totally disrespect visor’s deepwolf game because I really just can’t see it.

Imagine you bus your bro pretty hard D1, I agree it’s an easy spot and that wagon ain’t pure, it seems most people agree.

He’s calling for Logic to get poisoned, votes SK and peaced out, talks about a D2 sweep, checks back in, wavers on SK in much the same manner as ladd/me. SK flipping V probably looks worse for me out of that group.

There’s the minor frustration at not being considered too towncore if either Logic/SK flip W, but he’s not being a dramatic about it.
Then comes in today and is angry at Logic for turtling in that fashion.

That’s a whole range of epic perfomative emotions if he has TMI.

A wolf who busses his bro is probably not that keen into taking a lead role in two villagers deaths immediately because I don’t think a wolf really understands the exact line where his town cred drops. He would be a bit more cautious and let someone else take blame for it.

Also the mindmeld over pretending we were CFDing Logic is also amazing and like, the two people who seemed to really think that could happen were…uh… HK and Ender. Lmao

Conclusion: They’re just too weird and too aligned in non-towny reactions to go anywhere else now.

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i could do everything ive done in this game as a wolf

i just wouldn't because im lazy

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on what

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gamestate in general. who to look at if hk and ender both end up villagers?

@hollowkatt do something

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gamestate in general. who to look at if hk and ender both end up villagers?

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eph/yolo would be the obvious candidates but i might actually look into ladd tbh

perhaps its just.... feeling weird that he is feeling weird about me lol, but i think the way he is approaching ender and hk feels.... weird to me (lol)

but we haven't always been on the same page in recent games so take that with a grain of salt

i think if both ender and hk flip v i have been very wrong outside of pzelda and would need to throw out my reads completely from scratch (and would rather know sooner rather than later)

i have some thoughts on the gamestate but don't really have time to get into them in the detail i want rn, probably tonight

if raskol is a wolf i will never live this game down so actually maybe ill look into him too LOL

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if raskol is a wolf i will never live this game down so actually maybe ill look into him too LOL

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he's not a wolf don't worry about it

trust me bro