Daggers in the Night [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

The one fatal flaw in your strategy pevergreen is that you prove to be no big loss when you die, and a liability when you're alive. So do us all a favor and die.

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That's just said in the spirit of the game... right?

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Good game though, Kagemusha. I admire your talented performance. Just remember I never once bought your Sahara News act and I was crawling up your butt all game.

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You can add YLC and I to that; we died voting for him! :P

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Originally Posted by Secura

That's just said in the spirit of the game... right?



You can add YLC and I to that; we died voting for him! :P

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According to our experts you and YLC died in unsuccessfull WIFOM.:tongue3:

pever should die. pever should always die. if i couldve, i wouldve killed him already.

I only just read up on this at school after an exam, and I have a theoretical driver's test to prepare myself for tomorrow. After that test I'll be around more again.

Diana, I think you should vigilante kill pevergreen or Kagemusha, our two top suspects. I don't think Kage is immune to vigilante kills as per TinCow's analysis, but by the same reason it goes that he should not be killable only by vig. That'd be ridiculous. If you're convinced pever is the last slave, I'd say you should vig him and we lynch Kagemusha tomorrow, when he can be lynched.

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

According to our experts you and YLC died in unsuccessfull WIFOM.:tongue3:

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Yep, that would be the case!

At least now everyone knows your scumtells for certain; you will accuse me and/or Renata of picking on you! :P

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Originally Posted by Secura

Yep, that would be the case!

At least now everyone knows your scumtells for certain; you will accuse me and/or Renata of picking on you! :P

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Maybe you should consider why i did what i did?~;)

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Why so serious, pevergreen? It's odd for you to be serious about anything, least of all yourself.

pevergreen on the other hand can basically sit on his thumb for rounds at a time with no suspicion on him no matter what he does. He's also very unlikely to be suspected as being chosen as a slave, given recent games and some unpleasantness involved. He can accuse anyone at any time for any reason and it will never raise an eyebrow, because he's not expected to play seriously. His survival is never suspect because he often is contrary to whatever is popular, usually on purpose, so he's never really a threat to the scums. Thus when he's not murdered it doesn't seem out of place.

Kagemusha is also someone who would choose pevergreen because he is someone who thinks very hard about who he would choose for his partner. He realizes that pevergreen would be an ideal candidate in this game because of the fact that he's never suspicious even when he's doing things which are horrendously bad, and he doesn't attract votes or even murders. He also realizes the situation here in the gameroom where pever would be less likely to be recruited by anyone.... anyone but Kagemusha, really.

Kagemusha has made no attempt all game to get rid of pevergreen by the vote or by accusation.

atheotes has made no attempt all game to get rid of pevergreen by the vote or by accusation.

Always unserious and uncaring pevergreen suddenly bristles at the mention that someone might have recruited him. it's the only time this entire game he's been actually serious.

Why so serious, pevergreen? Even a single serious post from you is cause for alarm.

I would bet the farm that pevergreen was recruited by Kagemusha. In any case I believe that pevergreen is a liability and will be utterly uncooperative in the endgame anyway.

The one fatal flaw in your strategy pevergreen is that you prove to be no big loss when you die, and a liability when you're alive. So do us all a favor and die.

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People need to stop looking at one persons case and then deciding that what they say is proof...

Here is the peverspecial: The 1am defence! :beam:

You're right, over the recent time with the gradual player shift, I've become a much lower priority target. I remember when I was a high profile target...though I'm not sure why I was.

I do like this though:

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He can accuse anyone at any time for any reason and it will never raise an eyebrow, because he's not expected to play seriously. His survival is never suspect because he often is contrary to whatever is popular, usually on purpose, so he's never really a threat to the scums.

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Spent a lot of time building this up. :yes: I gave up one trying to build actual cases on people when everyone ignored my posts constantly for about 6 months. Its just a habit now, I know what I post is either skimmed over or not actually judged, so I can pretty much sprout anything I feel like. Same in the backroom.

I don't see why Kage would go for me as a pick though, if he is the main guy. Coming off the flak I've gotten for star wars, I would have thought I'd die pretty early, or at least be targeted early by a scumconsul. :wink:

I'm uncooperative sometimes because I actively resist the playstyle of many other players, which is sit back and let you/sasaki/TC and a few others do the big fancy posts, then agree with whatever you say...kind of like what is happening here.

I can say two more things: 1. If I had been following this game as I should have, out of respect to Andres, my activity would be a lot more even. 2. Why so personal at the end there?

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Originally Posted by Secura

That's just said in the spirit of the game... right?

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IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Either way its true.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

pever should die. pever should always die. if i couldve, i wouldve killed him already.

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You will never get over the first two CDTC games will you? I only remember 3 things from CDTC, and you aren't in any of them.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Diana, I think you should vigilante kill pevergreen or Kagemusha, our two top suspects.

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HALP IM GUNNA DIE.

actually i love you pever,

that is why you are my favorite character to kill.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

I only just read up on this at school after an exam, and I have a theoretical driver's test to prepare myself for tomorrow. After that test I'll be around more again.

Diana, I think you should vigilante kill pevergreen or Kagemusha, our two top suspects. I don't think Kage is immune to vigilante kills as per TinCow's analysis, but by the same reason it goes that he should not be killable only by vig. That'd be ridiculous. If you're convinced pever is the last slave, I'd say you should vig him and we lynch Kagemusha tomorrow, when he can be lynched.

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Are you serious DE!? ~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad

If we end up using both of our vig kills on someone other than known mafia, and waste a lynch on him instead...

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Are you serious DE!? ~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad

If we end up using both of our vig kills on someone other than known mafia, and waste a lynch on him instead...

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I am thinking that Kagemusha is untouchable unless we get his minion first. Hence, killing the minion (it could be pevergreen as ATPG suggested) first would be a better solution than wasting our last vigilante kill, right?

If you have reason to believe Kagemusha has lost his invulnerability-like ability since the lynch, a vigilante kill attempt on him is of course the way to go. I'm just not sure I'd be willing to risk the game on that.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

I am thinking that Kagemusha is untouchable unless we get his minion first. Hence, killing the minion (it could be pevergreen as ATPG suggested) first would be a better solution than wasting our last vigilante kill, right?

If you have reason to believe Kagemusha has lost his invulnerability-like ability since the lynch, a vigilante kill attempt on him is of course the way to go. I'm just not sure I'd be willing to risk the game on that.

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You think Andres gave us only 2 vig shots, and made the main bad guy unviggable? Of course, we should have tested it with the first shot. But, there is likely no way to know if we hit the minion. We could hit the minion and then try lynching him for a few days, worried about trying to hit kage. We could not hit the minion, see a drop in kills, try to lynch kage, and fail. So it is best to vig kage.

Methos is probably the minion.

Response to pevergreen;

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

People need to stop looking at one persons case and then deciding that what they say is proof...

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Translation: "And apparently, ATPG is always right..."

You know, I have to admit there probably is some latent dissatisfaction with the situation where if I make a big case on someone, right or wrong, they generally do die. I am sure that's annoying to people, especially when I am wrong. Or to those who made the exact same case 5 rounds prior, but perhaps not quite as perspicuously. I'm sure they hate being ignored.

How many times have I accused someone where someone like YLC or Renata or Secura was there first, but their cases were ignored? Perhaps people do give undue weight behind what I say. And I am sure that frustration manifests itself when I accuse you. But, there's another thing: Most of the mafia I ever accuse react the same way: playing off of that particular frustration or doubt as a defense. "Come on guys, you're really not going to just sit back and listen to ATPG, are you?".

What do you expect their reaction to be? All of a sudden people will realize that they've got to grab their pitchforks and torches and go home? Join hands and say to each other, "he's right.... let's never listen to ATPG again...." It doesn't really work though, and that is why I am amused when it keeps being used as a defense.

You know what really worked as a defense? Look back to how atheotes reacted when I started accusing him in Star Wars: RotS. There was almost no reaction, no righteous indignation, and he waited for my own bad, assumption-based case to fall apart. He pointed out one flaw in my reasoning after like an hour of accusing him, which if he were mafia he would have used against me right away. When you're mafia the idea is to make your accuser look incompetent or wrong as best you can... not leave a lifeline like that on the table. He could have just whipped it out in reaction, but there was no real pressure for him to do so because I was wrong about him. But there is usually very little patience and calmness when I'm right about someone. The immediacy of the situation prompts mafia to "empty their clips" at me to stop the attack. It requires almost a totally inverted psychological state to patiently deconstruct. Some people have it in them to do so, but even then they rarely leave a good opening unused. Discrediting the accuser is very important in a game where emotion and instinct plays as big a part as logic does, and instinctively mafia tend to go right for that move.

It's why I dropped my case against atheotes like a sack of potatoes. Not only was I wrong about many different facts, but atheotes' reaction was cool as ice, and my accusation did not trigger any sort of immediate discrediting attempt on his part. That's a major difference between the usual townie reaction and the usual scum reaction. And never-serious pevergreen's reaction was to go straight for the instinctive, reflexive discrediting... or playing on the sympathies of others I may have accused and been wrong about. It gets to be so reflexive that I cannot help but admire those players who can resist the urge. It actually makes my job much more difficult when they do. Kagemusha is one of those players who would be unlikely to get flustered by me, and yet even in this game he flinched a bit. I am actually surprised that you reacted this way... you're nothing if not unique. It's very odd to see you acting like every other ordinary scumbag...

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Here is the peverspecial: The 1am defence! :beam:

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y so srs?

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You're right, over the recent time with the gradual player shift, I've become a much lower priority target. I remember when I was a high profile target...though I'm not sure why I was.

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I can only imagine what you'd be like as townie if you were still in old pevergreen mode and you were still trying. I would like to see that again. You obviously have skills as mafia, or else you wouldn't be able to pull of such a performance like in this game without acting slightly off from your usual. And if you have skills as mafia then you understand mafia enough to be a competent townie.

If I am right about you, which admittedly is an assumption (not much of a leap though... process of elimination is kind of kicking your butt here... should have killed certain people by now...) then my main critique would be that you played the unserious card too much. In these final rounds even you usually make an attempt to vote for a real suspect. Voting for splitpersonality last round was just bad karma.

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Spent a lot of time building this up. :yes: I gave up one trying to build actual cases on people when everyone ignored my posts constantly for about 6 months. Its just a habit now, I know what I post is either skimmed over or not actually judged, so I can pretty much sprout anything I feel like. Same in the backroom.

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Yep... that's your thing, kind of like Csargo being a constant lurker and not responding even when his life is on the line. People have different styles and most of it has a place in the gameroom. Obviously your style is to great advantage when you're mafia. You might suffer a little backlash in the early game if you are guilty here though, as is the usual custom.

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I don't see why Kage would go for me as a pick though, if he is the main guy. Coming off the flak I've gotten for star wars, I would have thought I'd die pretty early, or at least be targeted early by a scumconsul. :wink:

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@ bolding: Smooth. Didn't want to confirm or deny, did you?

You don't see yourself as being valuable to the team as mafia, even though I said a couple months back that you'd be an excellent mafia, since you can just creep by. Surely someone such as Kagemusha would see that. Even if you only managed to survive 2/3 of the way through the game, that's a bankable asset to a team that needs slaves to be alive as long as possible.

Also interesting to note is that there has been absolutely zero pressure on you vote-wise all game long, and no indication until now that anyone even considered you a suspect. Yet you've never been attacked by the mafia... after at least a couple of large games straight where you seemed to last until the very end or very near it. You haven't been distracting, really... not like The Stranger had been. And the odds of a mafia dying go up every round, especially if you're innocent and there's zero pressure on you. A wise mafioso would have killed you by now. You have been getting a pass to do whatever you please... surely they would have seen that and eliminated you to keep as many suspects or potential lynchees alive as possible. Especially since it is highly unlikely that the Naib is defending you at night.

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I'm uncooperative sometimes because I actively resist the playstyle of many other players, which is sit back and let you/sasaki/TC and a few others do the big fancy posts, then agree with whatever you say...kind of like what is happening here.

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Well.... you can't really blame others for their wagoning playstyle when yours is to sit back and essentially waste your own vote on people who won't get lynched. You'll admit it isn't particularly useful for a townie to do... you're really just protesting what you perceive as mindless bandwagoning or trusting certain self-anointed leaders. It's more of a political statement than anything else.

But, you would have more of a point if you had been making more pointed accusations at people from time to time. It's ironic that your form of protest actually helps enable that kind of groupthink in others, because you don't offer much of an alternative by way of accusing suspects, and your vote when placed on someone obviously not going to be lynched, like splitpersonality, is just as "bad" as one placed on the end of a long bandwagon on kagemusha, let's say. It doesn't affect the outcome in the slightest. I get that you're doing it for a reason, but the goal you have in mind can never be achieved this way.

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I can say two more things: 1. If I had been following this game as I should have, out of respect to Andres, my activity would be a lot more even.

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How do you mean? Your activity was very even. You were a constant, if unnoticed, presence.

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2. Why so personal at the end there?

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It's not personal, it's just business.

If I critique your strategy it is for in-game purposes only. This has no bearing on who you are outside of the game and IRL.

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HALP IM GUNNA DIE.

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And back in character. We've gone full circle, from unserious to srs to unserious again. But here, it feels painted on. (A more logical argument you'll never find, surely. :wink:)

If I am right, I will claim that I used the force and searched my feelings, and sensed the dark side in you.

If I am wrong, I'm blaming Peasant Phill. Somehow this must be all his fault...

Night 11 - Conclusion

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Song to accompany write-up : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pb1...eature=related

The moon was purple. A rare phenomenon, associated by some with the end of times.

"Wake up!"

One of the nearby graves started to tremble.

"Wake up, slave!"

Hands crawled through the dirt.

"Come! Wake up, slave!"

Finally, the body appeared, holding its' head in its' hands.

"Good. Put on your head and come over here."

The corpse obeyed and walked over to the master.

"Good, slave. Now listen... Tonight, you will go on a..."

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Steak. He was dying for a decent steak. Screw security measures. He wanted steak! He had come all the way from Japan to this place and after 11 days, he now wanted his steak. NOW!

And so, Beefy187 was found, walking the streets of Sacromonte, looking for a decent restaurant where he could eat steak! Real steak! He heard the sauce made of cabrales cheese was delicious. He wanted steak! Saignant! With cabrales cheese. Not kangaroo steak, he had more than enough of that in Australia; no, a real steak! Beef! He wasn't called Beefy for nothing!

As he was walking down the streets, drooling and craving for beef, he didn't notice the dark figure sneaking up on him.

Finally, Beefy187 found a restaurant and hey, they had steak on the menu! With cabrales sauce! With a discount, especially for tourists! He could have two steaks for the price of one!

He couldn't wait to enter the restaurant, but alas, fate was cruel for this fine young man. As he was about to enter, a wooden club hit him on the head.

He fell down, barely conscious.

"No, not now! Couldn't you wait for an hour or so? Two steaks. That was all I wanted! Two st..."

The swing of a sword ended his hallucinations of giant steaks bathing in cabrales sauce.

The killer looked at the beheaded body, bowed and reached for Beefy's wallet. He looked up and saw the announcement at the restaurant.

"Hmmm... steak with cabrales sauce!"

The killer entered the restaurant.

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"Ah mon lit! Comme je suis fatigué!" our friendly Canadian dagger said to himself.

Reaching for the only Francophone magazine in his hotelroom, TheFlax turned on the television, when he heard a "mooo" sound.

He shrugged. "Meh, ces espagnoles avec leur bêtises!"

"Moooo!"

The sound seemed to come from the inside of the building.

"Mais, qu'est-ce que c'est? Une vache dans l'hôtel?" TheFlax said, annoyed, and he walked over to the door.

"MOOOO!" loud now.

TheFlax was too curious and opened the door of his room. In front of him stood TinCow.

"Mais, tu es mort!"

"Moooooo!" was TinCows' reply and he grabbed TheFlax by his throat with a firm grip.

TheFlax tried to free himself, but his struggle was soon over as TinCow was using supernatural forces to strangle his opponent. He tightened his grip and broke TheFlax' neck.

As soon as his victim died, TinCow's body evaporated and there was nothing left of him, except dust and ashes.

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The hunt is on. Through the streets of the old Albaicin. Running, a man catches his breath, looks around, and runs again.

Faster, running, puffing heavily.

Darkness, running, street lights, narrow street, dark again.

The hunter is holding his right hand on his blade, his left hand ready on his belt with silver daggers.

The chase continues The prey runs. Speed is its' only weapon. Fighting this hunter is fruitless.

Faster, faster, faster!

The hunter sees the target. It enters a narrow street. The hunter grins and climbs up a nearby wall. Jump. From rooftop to rooftop. The prey is close.

The prey hears sounds of boots landing on a nearby roof.

The prey stops. Holds its' breath.

The boots land on a roof. Silence. Again, boots landing on a roof. Silence. Boots on a roof, further now.

The prey grins. He deceived the hunter...

He bows, leaning with his hands on his knees. He inhales fresh air, pauses, inhales again, pauses, puffs, inhales, spits on the floor and looks up. A silver dagger planted in the doorpost behind him.

The prey runs again. The hunter follows. The hunter is close. The hunter sees the target. Feels the target. The hunter is fast, the prey becomes tired. Boots echoing through the streets of the ancient medieval town. The hunter jumps from rooftop to rooftop, following the shadow of the prey through the light of the street lanterns.

The prey starts to realise he can't keep up this pace. While he keeps running, he unsheats his silver blade, stops, turns around, his back against a wall, and waits.

The hunter is above him, on the roof. The prey waits, stays silent.

The hunter jumps down. The prey looks at him. "So, she picked you to attack me." The prey starts shaking his head. "A terrible mistake."

The hunter doesn't answer, his face remains without expression. He draws his blade. The prey doesn't stand a chance against his drugged attacker. He manages to block one attack, but the second attack comes before he can move his sword in another direction. The blow slices him open from the belly up to the chest.

The prey sinks on his knees and looks up. The reflection of the moonlight on the silver blade was the last thing pevergreen ever saw.

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Day 12

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Diana Abnoba looked up as 5 daggers showed up.

She briefly stared at each one of them and then she sighed, for a short moment, a glimpse of sadness on her face.

"Let's talk."

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Alive (6)

1. Diana Abnoba
2. Double A
3. Methos
4. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
5. Kagemusha
6. DiamondEye

Killed (23)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder
YLC
Secura
Captain Blackadder
GreyBlades
Niklas
TinCow
Kukrikhan
Renata
Choxorn
Jolt
TheFlax
Beefy187
pevergreen

Lynched (10)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D
Romanic
atheotes
Beskar
The Stranger
Scienter

WoG (1)
AVSM

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It's now day. You can start voting. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

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pevergreen was the vig choice? I hope that was the right choice... I suppose the plan now is trying to lynch Kagemusha again?

Oh yeah, Romanic: I was not the mafia you were looking for :clown:

And more death. If people keep dying at this rate there soon wont be any of us left!:cry:

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Originally Posted by TheFlax

pevergreen was the vig choice? I hope that was the right choice... I suppose the plan now is trying to lynch Kagemusha again?

Oh yeah, Romanic: I was not the mafia you were looking for :clown:

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:oops: It didn't matter, no one was listening to me, but I am somewhat shocked that you were not mafia.

6 people left only. Tough spot, the next decision will be critical.

Wait, I thought Beefy was a suspect...

Mafia :bow:
But I don't understand why you killed me.

So obviously, we can't lynch Kage today, and the mafia have two votes to our 3 (so all the townies have to vote the same way). If we lynch a townie we lose if there are two mafia left. So let's lynch Methos. Then tomorrow we have to lynch Kage.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

So obviously, we can't lynch Kage today, and the mafia have two votes to our 3 (so all the townies have to vote the same way). If we lynch a townie we lose if there are two mafia left. So let's lynch Methos. Then tomorrow we have to lynch Kage.

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Sounds like the best plan to me. :yes:

Well, technically there's one mafia (Kage) and one special role (Methos), but yeah.

I would throw the Hail Mary and lynch Kage one more time. I do not believe that Methos' play is consistent with him being one of the slaves. Either pevergreen was the last slave (we lynch Kage and win); or Kage is the slave, Nikolaos has taken over and is killing independently, and both the Ancient Vampire and Nikolaos had singleshot lynch-switching abilities to use on whomever they wished (we lynch Kage, then tomorrow take a shot at Nikolaos).

Now I know no one will agree with me, but I wouldn't lynch Methos even if it is unknown slave plus Ancient-Vampire-Kagemusha: see above. Take a shot at never-got-wogged Double A, showed-up-just-in-time-not-to-be-wogged Split, or even late-replacement Diamondeye, instead.

You people are driving me crazy!

Methos--slave
Kage--ancient one

If pever was the slave (which he wasn't), than we have a spare lynch, and kage is the last mafia. So we lynch someone other than kage, no question.

Methos's posts yesterday make him clear mafia. Remember: ALL of the townies have to vote the same way today. We have 3 votes to the mafia's two. If people are throwing around these theories, than the townie players who are only showing up once a day to vote and then disappear will vote for the wrong person and we will lose.

umg I died.

@atpg's long post: eh.

The vig target was pever? :thumbsdown::no:

I agree with Sasaki, lynch Methos.

Alright, that makes sense. You know, lynch the guy preventing the lynch of the super bad guy.

vote: Methos

I just hope that for the next lynch Split will actually show up.... Or it will be a tie. (I'm not expecting him to be night killed.)

EDIT: Stupid of me, I forgot the Naib. Alright, it lynching Methos and then Kagemusha sounds ok.

I am here.

Under the direction of the Naib's will shall I vote :bow:

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Originally Posted by Double A

Alright, that makes sense. You know, lynch the guy preventing the lynch of the super bad guy.

vote: Methos

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Yesterday I voted to lynch Kage, which is what we were supposed to do, when means I did vote to lynch the super bad guy. Are you just not paying attention, or just trying to hid your own scumminess?

I'm withholding my vote for now.

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Originally Posted by Methos

Yesterday I voted to lynch Kage, which is what we were supposed to do, when means I did vote to lynch the super bad guy. Are you just not paying attention, or just trying to hid your own scumminess?

I'm withholding my vote for now.

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So good of you to follow the town's dutiful orders without question, especially since the slave would know that Kage would be immune to the lynch.

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Well I see two options. We either lynch Kagemusha now or we lynch one last suspected henchman and then Kage.

If he has a slave still alive, then we have to try to lynch the slave today anyway. If he does not, he should be down to one kill, which means there isn't as much urgency. So, I would generally favor lynching a suspect today, then Kagemusha.

Double A was totally inactive on the .org, CivFanatics, and TWC for 4 straight days. during that time, several games that Double A was involved and interested in continued without his involvement. Here, 2 might phases with slave kills happened during that time.
Splitpersonality requested to be dropped or replaced in all of the games he was in, and was inactive for 4 days here as well, during which time there were 2 night phases with slave kills.
Diamondeye replaced Johnhughthom, who requested to be replaced in my Murder Manor game, and requested to be replaced here. While he could be guilty, I doubt it.
Diana Abnoba is someone I strongly assume to be innocent.
Kagemusha will be lynched today or tomorrow, so that leaves:

Methos.

Well, it's certainly possible. The one thing I notice about Methos is that he's cool as a cucumber and does not offer alternative suspects on the rounds where atheotes dies and Kagemusha is first lynched. However, he doesn't vote for atheotes until it's basically been decided that atheotes should die, and voting for Kagemusha proves nothing because Kage can survive it.

So, if it is not Methos but Kagemusha has another slave, then there is no time and we lose if we lynch him. But, if Methos is the slave or another special role somehow, then we may drop our kills down to 1 and that should allow us to kill Kage at the last.

So if:

1. Diana Abnoba- can't vote
2. Double A
3. Methos- lynch
4. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
5. Kagemusha
6. DiamondEye- murder

That leaves 2 votes versus 1 on Kagemusha, and the game would be over anyway if we were wrong about pever or Methos. So at that point the game seems won. Otherwise we were supposed to use our vig kill on Kage, and I am not sure that is so, or the game would be over already.

Yep, lynch Methos, then Kage. The only other option is lynching Kage, and I am struggling to see any advantage in doing so. So if he wins because of a miscalculation there, then good game.

I think we already killed the henchmen/slaves, and all we need to do now is lynch Kage. But if you guys still need to kill someone else fine, just make sure you all vote the same. I believe that we may have 1 round left.

Split- not active, but not active on any forum game.
Double A- not active, but not active on any forum game.
Diamondeye- replacement player for inactive player.
Methos- voted several times to lynch Atheotes and Kage, never changed his vote at the last minute.
Diana- innocent, been Naib almost 2 rounds now.

Kage- Scum

Methos to me is the only one with a slight hint of scum, but not really if you look back on his posts. The only thing is he is a good player, that maybe could pull this off, but he is just too cool about it. So I really don't get the scum vibe strong with him.

I think we should just lynch Kage, but I understand if you guys just have to be sure and lynch Methos. Just make sure that you all vote the same.

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Originally Posted by Diana Abnoba

Just make sure that you all vote the same.

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Yes, this.

There is no good plan today that involves lynching Kage.

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Originally Posted by Methos

Yesterday I voted to lynch Kage, which is what we were supposed to do, when means I did vote to lynch the super bad guy. Are you just not paying attention, or just trying to hid your own scumminess?

I'm withholding my vote for now.

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If the super bad guy is revealed, sometimes his scumbuddies will vote for him to make themselves look good, espicially when the super bad guy is unlynchable.

Sweet honeycomb, lynch Methos already!

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Originally Posted by Methos

I'm withholding my vote for now.

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Scum tell! I do that all the time... as Mafia.

Fine lynch Methos, you just ALL have to.

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Originally Posted by Psychonaut

Sweet honeycomb, lynch Methos already!


Scum tell! I do that all the time... as Mafia.

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He wants to see if a townie will vote for someone else, then he and kage can vote that person too.

Methos is Nikolaos, so whether you lynch him or Kage today doesn't matter so long as they both die in the next two days.

So who are the other townies voting for?

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Originally Posted by Double A

So who are the other townies voting for?

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Vote for Methos.

Vote: Methos

vote: Methos - and then Kage next round as Sasaki says :bow:

douible A should make new friends.

Good luck guys.

The town is going to lose epicfail, I can foresee it.

Nobody gets to whine about losing who hasn't put any significant effort into winning.

can i whine? ill do it anyway.

no one is entitled to whine but atpg...

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

can i whine? ill do it anyway.

no one is entitled to whine but atpg...

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Nah, he definately isn't, not after attempting and succeeding in getting me killed, incorrectly.

I do acknlowedge he seems to be trying for the town.

I'm entitled. :) But I'm not inclined. At least not about losing, if we do.

-_- if you are entitled than so am i...

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Nah, he definately isn't, not after attempting and succeeding in getting me killed, incorrectly.

I do acknlowedge he seems to be trying for the town.

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you tried to kill me too.. incorrectly. sooo... and if that hadnt happened. we wouldve lynched methos and we wouldnt be in this mess

I tried to get you lynched. My reasons, however, were not because I thought you were scum, more that you were detrimental to the town effort.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

The town is going to lose epicfail, I can foresee it.

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I agree. In all honesty, I hope we failed to kill the slave, that way tomorrow Kage and his remaining slave kill the town and we all have the great and amazing Sasaki to thank for losing the game for us! :bow:

Vote: Methos

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Originally Posted by Methos

I agree. In all honesty, I hope we failed to kill the slave, that way tomorrow Kage and his remaining slave kill the town and we all have the great and amazing Sasaki to thank for losing the game for us! :bow:

Vote: Methos

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If you are innocent, we can also blame you for losing the game for us. A falsely accused townie in this kind of situation should put up a much better defense than you have.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

If you are innocent, we can also blame you for losing the game for us. A falsely accused townie in this kind of situation should put up a much better defense than you have.

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Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.

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Originally Posted by Methos

Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.

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Just for ships and gigolos, who do you pick out of the remaining living people to be guilty? Kagemusha and one more.

At least if we lose and you guessed correctly, you get to look smarter than the rest of us. :grin:

There's plenty of blame to go around, so stop bickering about it. I made my decisions, based on in thread info and PM's sent to me. There were a lot of players that didn't send me any PMs, so if you don't like the decisions I made and you didn't send me a PM, sorry you have no right to complain. Also we had a lot of inactive players, that didn't add much input to the game, so again if you are one of them, you also have no right to complain. I think we did the best we could with what we had, and I like to look on the positive side here (at least until we know we've lost). "Stop harshing on my mellow, man." Just wait till the end to find out how well we really did. There's nothing we can do about it now. Yes, I too would have changed things, even from the start of this game, but isn't that always the way it is with 20/20 hindsight.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Just for ships and gigolos, who do you pick out of the remaining living people to be guilty? Kagemusha and one more.

At least if we lose and you guessed correctly, you get to look smarter than the rest of us. :grin:

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I believe the final slave was pever, but I'm still wondering if we've lost this game. We can't be sure about the re-animator and what side they are on, or whether they have their own VC. If they do, the it's going to end up like this:

Today: I'm lynched (5 remaining)
Tonight: Kage and re-animator kills (3 remaining)
Tomorrow: We lynch Kage (2 remaining)

If the re-animator isn't town or mafia and has their own VC, then this game either ends as a tie or as a town loss. I know that while Diana is Naib, she's protected, but will she still be Naib tomorrow night? If she is, the game ends as a tie. If she isn't, the game ends with the re-animator winning. This of course assumes the re-animator doesn't win as town. If the re-animator is town, then we win.

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Originally Posted by Methos

Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.

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Why should we bother trying to justify our mistakes? Is lynching the wrong person some kind of mortal sin in mafia? A town loss can be blamed on numerous people at numerous points in the game. Pointing the finger at Sasaki accomplishes nothing and it's also wildly inaccurate. When the town loses a large mafia game, everyone is to blame. Yes, even the person who was right all along but failed to convince the others.

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Originally Posted by Methos

We can't be sure about the re-animator and what side they are on, or whether they have their own VC.

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You're not sure what side the re-animator is on? Surely his tendency to murder people every night gives some clue...

Tally:

Methos: 4 (Double A, Split, Diamondeye, Methos)

not voting: Diana (Naib), Kagemusha




Okay looks like Methos is it for the lynch. Write up with Pizza seasoning sent to Andres. This one is, a much needed, comic relief, one. I think we all could use a laugh. I hope you guys like it, I did. I hope you get a kick out of this one Methos. :bow:

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Originally Posted by TinCow

You're not sure what side the re-animator is on? Surely his tendency to murder people every night gives some clue...

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We're all murderers, remember?

15 minutes left.

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Originally Posted by Methos

We're all murderers, remember?

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Not me. I am a lamb.

And i am only an innocent reporter caught in this madness.:shame:

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

douible A should make new friends.

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Who's douible A and why should he make new friends?

Day 12 - Conclusion

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Methos had often contemplated what happens after death, especially since so many fell by his own hand. He used to fear it, or more accurately, he feared the unknown of death, but not any more. Since coming here he’d learned that death meant nothing, as the souls of that individual still existed and were able to communicate their foolishness just as they did in life. For that he reasoned that what did it matter anymore, so with that, he calmly stepped forward and handed his silver dagger to his Naib.

“I vote myself”.

Diana nodded and snapped her fingers. The remaining daggers put Methos in chains and led him to a special execution platform. But all there was on top of the wooden platform was a big comfy chair. Looking confused, Methos sat down in the comfy chair and allowed himself to be strapped in.

Diana stood on the platform with Methos, and addressed him, while the other daggers watched.

Diana began:

"You are accused of blasphemy, heresy, consorting with vampires, impersonating a swiss maid, high treason, crude and boorish behavior, grand larceny, grand theft auto, low treason, impersonating a taiwanese daredevil, first degree murder, improper disposal of a corpse, improper relations with a corpse, drinking Heineken and liking it, using your cellphone in a restaurant, medium treason, littering, witchcraft, improper reanimation of a corpse, impersonating a pirate, gratuitous depictions of nudity in a moving picture, not worshipping Andres last Friday, grievously improper use of a plunger, ties to an international communist conspiracy, unpaid parking tickets, and general scumminess. How do you plead?"

Methos proudly lifted up his chin, and with a gleam of sadness in his eye, he gave the people what they wanted...

"I plead guilty. No one else could have done these heinous crimes. I accept my sentence."

Methos knew he was innocent, but nothing was going to change the minds of this mob of people bent on violent murder. He was once one of them... so he knew he was no better. He felt the only thing to do was to give them some small bit of hope and a feeling of accomplishment. It was his final gift to a doomed group of well-meaning vigilantes.

Diana nodded. "Okay. BACK UP THE TRUCK!!!"

A large red truck emerged and began backing up towards the execution platform. Methos tried to crane his head around to see what was in store for him, but he couldn't see. All he could hear was the roar of the engine and the noise that a truck makes when backing up.

A pair of daggers ran to the truck and began unraveling a long hose. They brought it quickly up the steps of the wooden platform, and handed the hose to the Naib, kissed her shiny black boots, and then backed away with their heads lowered in respect. "Kill me next, honored Naib!" they pleaded, for it was indeed an honor to be slain by a woman so glorious as Diana Abnoba.

Diana ordered Methos to open his mouth, and when he did, she began stuffing the hose down his throat, causing him to gag uncontrollably. Tears welled up in his eyes as he felt the cold black hose being fed all the way down to his stomach.

"Begin!" bellowed the Naib.

A dagger pulled the lever on the truck, and the thick brown fluid began pumping through the black hose, all the way up the steps of the execution platform, and down into Methos' stomach. He had no idea what was being pumped down his gullet.... was it drugs? deadly poisons? toxic waste? raw sewage? His brain fired rapidly, and he began to panic. He started moaning for the terrible torture to stop, but his words were unintelligible. He felt his stomach begin to expand uncomfortably, and he started choking as the fluid began seeping back up.... and then he tasted the foul liquid he was being slain with.

It was sweet.... very sweet. It made his mouth tingle. It tasted so familiar, what could it be?

"That's enough!" shouted the Naib.

The dagger reversed the lever, and the pumping stopped. Diana took her sword and cut the hose off, mere inches from Methos' face. What now?

The Naib took out a roll of familiar-looking candy, tore it open slightly, and slid the entire roll into the hose. She forced Methos' head back and allowed the roll of candy to slide down the hose and into his stomach. Then she withdrew the hose, and covered Methos' mouth with duct tape. Methos was still as puzzled as he was before, until he saw the truck drive off.

"Oh my God...." thought Methos.

The Naib turned quickly and ran from the platform, and the crowd began to back up, and cover themselves with a plastic sheet.

Within a few seconds, it began. The dark brown fluid in Methos' stomach reacted with the mint-flavored candy, and the pressure began to build. Methos' eyes bugged out as Diet Coke shot fifty feet out from his nose. The Diet Coke exploded from his mouth, and a geyser of cola sprayed all over the enthusiastic crowd. But the pressure continued to build, until finally....

KABOOOM!!!!

Methos' head exploded, and a giant fountain of Diet coke erupted from his neck hole. A representative from the Guiness Book of World Records was there, and was able to verify that it was the single largest Mentos and Diet Coke explosion ever.

Everyone in the crowd began to applaud enthusiastically. They had done it! They were in the book of world records! Diana herself was very pleased, and bowed before the crowd. A voice in the clouds grumbled: "That'll teach him! Drinking Heineken and liking it!" Everyone, even the Gods, cheered for their Naib, the greatest Naib that ever lived! Hoooray!!!

Forgotten in all of the celebration was all the worry and fear about the Ancient One or the threat he posed. And soon, night would fall...

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Tally:

Methos: 4 (Double A, Diamondeye, splitpersonality, Methos) :skull:

Not voting: 2 (Diana Abnoba (Naib), Kagemusha)

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Alive (5)

1. Diana Abnoba
2. Double A
3. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
4. Kagemusha
5. DiamondEye

Killed (23)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder
YLC
Secura
Captain Blackadder
GreyBlades
Niklas
TinCow
Kukrikhan
Renata
Choxorn
Jolt
TheFlax
Beefy187
pevergreen

Lynched (11)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D
Romanic
atheotes
Beskar
The Stranger
Scienter
Methos

WoG (1)
AVSM

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It's now night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 23 hours.

:bow:

What a Classic! Methos killed with the Mentos bomb!:laugh4:

This time nodoby forgot to turn off their cellphone. :grin:

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The list of crimes is much funnier when read with Michael Palin's voice. :laugh4:

Also, you forgot Jaywalking.

That was hilarious! Definitely an excellent write up! :lol:

Eeny,miiny,maini,moe..Who is coming with me to the other side?

Can it be me?

:o

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Eeny,miiny,maini,moe..Who is coming with me to the other side?

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You know that you want to kill me, Kagemusha. Just get it over with.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You know that you want to kill me, Kagemusha. Just get it over with.

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Well you did it yourself already. I could always dig you up from the grave and kill you again?:wizard:

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Well you did it yourself already. I could always dig you up from the grave and kill you again?:wizard:

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How about I come out of this grave and beat your vampire butt? :laugh4:

It worked last game. No wait, that was you.

Edit: stupid crossposts :shame:

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Originally Posted by Diana Abnoba

There's plenty of blame to go around, so stop bickering about it. I made my decisions, based on in thread info and PM's sent to me. There were a lot of players that didn't send me any PMs, so if you don't like the decisions I made and you didn't send me a PM, sorry you have no right to complain. Also we had a lot of inactive players, that didn't add much input to the game, so again if you are one of them, you also have no right to complain. I think we did the best we could with what we had, and I like to look on the positive side here (at least until we know we've lost). "Stop harshing on my mellow, man." Just wait till the end to find out how well we really did. There's nothing we can do about it now. Yes, I too would have changed things, even from the start of this game, but isn't that always the way it is with 20/20 hindsight.

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It was all my fault anyway. I played too conservatively. Sorry guys. Andres may have one more surprise up his sleeve though, so :fingerscrossed :