Now I can read up at my leisure. GG, town, but you just got lucky.
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Now I can read up at my leisure. GG, town, but you just got lucky.
Dp101 - 6 (Bsmith, Choxorn, Kcaz, Lewwyn, Montmorency, Renata)
Al Sipsclar - 5 (Arakhor, Dp101, GHC, Visor, Winston Hughes)
Montmorency - 2 (Atheotes, Al Sipsclar)
Arakhor - 1 (Csargo)
Kcaz - 1 (Sooh)
Renata -1 (Snerk)
Last night's final vote count above. I guess I'd be surprised if at least one scum besides Al Sips didn't get themselves caught out off of both wagons: that's atheotes, csargo, sooh and snerk. Guess I wouldn't mind seeing a reasoned push on any of them.
I tend to think neither of those was the mafia kill and it was blocked in some way.
Just my honest reaction to yet another superfail on the night ability front.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Where does the scumminess come in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Right you are, it's earlier. Page 2 early.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Eventually. Can people claim (if only softclaim) nightly activities pls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
BSmith kill doesn't make sense. If it's a vig pls claim it whoever. Al kill could be a busdriver or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by kcaZ
Why don't you think Al kill was a straight vig?
Or maybe you killed Lou Gehrig.Quote:
Originally Posted by kcaZ
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Anyway, claims so far:
Monty: Commuted
Winston: Failed watch on Monty
Arakhor: Watched someone.
Snerk: Failed action on Sooh.
No that's perfectly possible too. But it's a remarkably good shot if so. I had Al down as town just due to being the alt scum wagon. Two scum wagons d1 happens, but not very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Monty being the only guaranteed non-verifiable target that I could have claimed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Untrackable, unwatchable - unless someone can scan to the root of the ability used itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Haven't read anything yet, but feel this is important information -
I submitted a peek for Winston Hughes last night and discovered that he's not corrupted. Which I take to mean he's almost always a villager, barring some sort of shenanigans.
The way wagons went down and dp/al acted fairly obviously hinted at w/w, but I acted in a way I thought would ensure the highest likelihood of me surviving the night and getting a peek off without being interfered with. Didn't bother peeking Al because there was a super likely chance he was getting resolved anyways.
BSmith would have been a pretty sub-optimal kill choice for wolves. I know for a fact there are ways to interfere with the wolf kill, so it seems more likely that al/bsmith were both killed by villagers and the mafia didn't get a kill through. Either that or they just made a terrible kill.
Realized that a moment after I asked you. Thumbs up on the reason, but not so sure on the self-consciousness involved in thinking about that at all. Was that your immediate thought when Monty claimed hide/commute?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
(Though I still stubbornly think that Al's posting pre-flips and pre-wagonomics was ~rand. :beam:)
My immediate thought was that I should have claimed straight away when he said he protected himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Two questions:Quote:
Originally Posted by kcaZ
-- what hinted at w/w for you
-- why choose winston. I would have thought between his vote on Al Sips and that clearing interaction he had with Dp he would have been the type of player you leave for another day. Why not one of the off-wagon people?
It's not clearing and I'd always expect Al to be bussed over Dp with the way he was playing. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
What's the good in me spending all this effort looking scummy if you're going to go and reveal something like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by kcaZ
OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
The way they both tried to jump on Monty at the end, DP in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
I didn't care about either of those things as far as clearing him and thought his behavior was fairly cringeworthy if a villager.
So isn't that effectively an alignment scan, something I believe Jabbz said wouldn't be included? Either way, if Winston is GodMaster that should confound any scan.Quote:
Originally Posted by kcaZ
Where did he say that? Also seriously doubt any godfather mechanics based on:Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
The only way it would be wrong is if someone redirected me, which is certainly a possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabbz
Can confirm a spell that appears to be an alignment scan.
Also, before I realized we could only cast one spell each night, my plan was to horde up all those cheap watcher spells and go crazy. :laugh4:
OK, very well. But why is Godfather bastard? Would make perfect sense in a game with investigations flowing like water, and in light of the flavor.
My money's on sooh/atheotes. Visor >rand wolf if he has low wim.
learn 2 readQuote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
"I will not tell you things that are false"
Speaking of cheap spells, it is technically possible to kill someone without vigging or redirecting a kill: the Tier-1 mana drain spell.
If someone drains all your mana, you die. Max 5 mana drained, but if someone had low mana and used a high-tier skill on the same night as being drained it's possible.
But that's no more false than being redirected. I don't share this interpretation.Quote:
Originally Posted by kcaZ
I can cast more than one spell.Quote:
Originally Posted by kcaZ