Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

That being said I have been reading through thread and the possibility I've just been wrong on HK is not a great feeling lol.

Vote: Yolo

Because I didn't like his treatment of me with the whole "Defending my ability to read then turning around and completely ignoring it."

And yes I'm fully aware this isn't going to be the wagon for today, but:
1. Gives you something to look back on if you flip me
2. Lemme have my vanity wagon alright?

Probably my last post for the day phase as I got training again early and can't be on comp/phone for it.

Maybe I'll show up 3-ish hours before EOD depending on how I feel when I wake up.

Gl, gnight.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

That being said I have been reading through thread and the possibility I've just been wrong on HK is not a great feeling lol.

Vote: Yolo

Because I didn't like his treatment of me with the whole "Defending my ability to read then turning around and completely ignoring it."

And yes I'm fully aware this isn't going to be the wagon for today, but:
1. Gives you something to look back on if you flip me
2. Lemme have my vanity wagon alright?

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What did you think of the posts I made about Swag toDay?

so ender comes in and disagrees with my rask read...but doesn't comment at all about how when I reread rask, I dismissed my concerns about him entirely.

interesting

rask what do you think of ender's re-entry today?

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

What did you think of the posts I made about Swag toDay?

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Also what is it with the tone of this post? Like you, me, we all know HK is going to die today, so what's up?

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Originally Posted by dyachei

rask what do you think of ender's re-entry today?

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wolfy, but I am struggling to seperate the wolfy from the resigned villager hence my questions to him

it really strikes me as weird that if ender *is* a villager, he can't see the issues with HK clearly and sees HK as a villager, too. This is part of what is making me think w/w is a possibility there. Ender keeps defending HK when *if* he is a villager, he wouldnt know HK's alignment and should want to self-pres on hk. Or re-eval HK to see what he's missing

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

What did you think of the posts I made about Swag toDay?

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I thought the HK interactions thing was interesting, but tbh I don't remember much else of it?

If there was anything else poignant I somehow glazed over it.

Yeah I wasn't sleeping and came back to thread like a dumbass.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

so ender comes in and disagrees with my rask read...but doesn't comment at all about how when I reread rask, I dismissed my concerns about him entirely.

interesting

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It was better and I was trying to catchup because people started talking about claims lol.

But also didn't tick the bar much because it could be busywork "Oh man I sus Rask randomly, whoops guess not!"

Just.

Didn't do much for me?

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Also what is it with the tone of this post? Like you, me, we all know HK is going to die today, so what's up?

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Eh?

Ngl I'm under the impression I probably go over today. Got like 3 core people that want me, HK probably will self-pres on me, and if any of you/Visor/etc decide to vote me I'm lightly toasted.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

It was better and I was trying to catchup because people started talking about claims lol.

But also didn't tick the bar much because it could be busywork "Oh man I sus Rask randomly, whoops guess not!"

Just.

Didn't do much for me?

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lol

ok but you literally shaded me for the former and made NO comment about the latter

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Originally Posted by dyachei

lol

ok but you literally shaded me for the former and made NO comment about the latter

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It’s because he’s a wolf, it’s his job tbh.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

it really strikes me as weird that if ender *is* a villager, he can't see the issues with HK clearly and sees HK as a villager, too. This is part of what is making me think w/w is a possibility there. Ender keeps defending HK when *if* he is a villager, he wouldnt know HK's alignment and should want to self-pres on hk. Or re-eval HK to see what he's missing

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In champs my biggest issue was being right and then letting others sway me into letting my reads go.

In the recent Anon game I wagoned all the wolves D1 but let people sway me off them.

I'm not saying I'm always right. Absolutely not. But I'm sick of feeling "what if"s about sticking to my guns when I have a good read or feeling.

And the fact that it was me/HK in the POE when I had that made me feel very much like a "me against the world" situation.

The fact that the likely clear-status of the main core of people I suspected to be corrupt and the growing chance I was just wrong (or right depending on how you look at it.) on HK? Makes me feel pretty shit.

Part of me figures that if I just vanity and go down today it'll mean I'm no longer in this mess and you guys still have enough steam + POE to resolve the game.

Honestly sounds kinda selfish when I lay it out like that rip.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

lol

ok but you literally shaded me for the former and made NO comment about the latter

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Sue me.

I didn't see the need to comment on it, especially when I decided my tinfoil theory has been wrong and therefore there's a bunch of town telling me you're town.

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Originally Posted by baudib1

It’s because he’s a wolf, it’s his job tbh.

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AWoooooooo

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Also what is it with the tone of this post? Like you, me, we all know HK is going to die today, so what's up?

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Also, you cannot tell me that if HK goes over and flips wolf tomorrow isn't just going to be Turbo Ender anyway.

I can barely post my way out of the POE anyway without Vulgard hero-shooting a wolf. I have no confidence in my ability to do so when I've probably spent a few day phases defending 'em.

(Me being constantly sussed early no matter my alignment is disheartening in itself but that's a "me" problem and something I have to work out with "why is my posting always wolfy recently.")

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

That being said I have been reading through thread and the possibility I've just been wrong on HK is not a great feeling lol.

Vote: Yolo

Because I didn't like his treatment of me with the whole "Defending my ability to read then turning around and completely ignoring it."

And yes I'm fully aware this isn't going to be the wagon for today, but:
1. Gives you something to look back on if you flip me
2. Lemme have my vanity wagon alright?

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[QUOTE=Raskolnikov;2053841931]Oh thanks Dya for quoting back this post! That's what I meant earlier today when I said to Syn I was waiting for swag's followups (which nick do u prefer btw? swag or yolo? I'd say swag is more swag)

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

I really want to hear your thoughts about the bold thing @YOLOSWAG

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Made me think Syn was unaligned with him at first glance

Yolo vs Org quoting system, the true battle for the ages.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

That being said I have been reading through thread and the possibility I've just been wrong on HK is not a great feeling lol.

Vote: Yolo

Because I didn't like his treatment of me with the whole "Defending my ability to read then turning around and completely ignoring it."

And yes I'm fully aware this isn't going to be the wagon for today, but:
1. Gives you something to look back on if you flip me
2. Lemme have my vanity wagon alright?

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

In champs my biggest issue was being right and then letting others sway me into letting my reads go.

In the recent Anon game I wagoned all the wolves D1 but let people sway me off them.

I'm not saying I'm always right. Absolutely not. But I'm sick of feeling "what if"s about sticking to my guns when I have a good read or feeling.

And the fact that it was me/HK in the POE when I had that made me feel very much like a "me against the world" situation.

The fact that the likely clear-status of the main core of people I suspected to be corrupt and the growing chance I was just wrong (or right depending on how you look at it.) on HK? Makes me feel pretty shit.

Part of me figures that if I just vanity and go down today it'll mean I'm no longer in this mess and you guys still have enough steam + POE to resolve the game.

Honestly sounds kinda selfish when I lay it out like that rip.

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I feel that

So what were your early wolf reads here, just HK and Syn?

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Also, you cannot tell me that if HK goes over and flips wolf tomorrow isn't just going to be Turbo Ender anyway.

I can barely post my way out of the POE anyway without Vulgard hero-shooting a wolf. I have no confidence in my ability to do so when I've probably spent a few day phases defending 'em.

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If HK is a wolf, I am snap voting Swag tmr and dipping till end game (that is if Visor doesn't MD you red in the first place :curtain:)

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Also, you cannot tell me that if HK goes over and flips wolf tomorrow isn't just going to be Turbo Ender anyway.

I can barely post my way out of the POE anyway without Vulgard hero-shooting a wolf. I have no confidence in my ability to do so when I've probably spent a few day phases defending 'em.

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i mean if you're a villager you could just get peeked if hk flips wolf no?:book2:

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

I feel that

So what were your early wolf reads here, just HK and Syn?

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Syn wasn't even an early wolfread. That came... D2 I think? Maaaaaybe late D1.

HK was my first and then I played with Visor/Ladd before tossing my Ladd wolfread out. Then I got pulled into Pzelda and the rest is history.

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

i mean if you're a villager you could just get peeked if hk flips wolf no?:book2:

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I'm curious what you mean.

Unless JOAT has saved doc to keep our MD alive then peeking is a lil hard.

Unless you mean the block.

... You know JOAT has to have doc or block left. You're kinda right.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

If HK is a wolf, I am snap voting Swag tmr and dipping till end game (that is if Visor doesn't MD you red in the first place :curtain:)

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I’m gonna need you to find me bub

Vote: hollowkatt

Vote: HK

I am apparently still swayable.

It's now nearly 2am so sleep + work is a thing that still needs to happen.

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

Vote: hollowkatt

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swag

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

I’m gonna need you to find me bub

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I don't think it actually matters rn. but OK I guess. I was kinda joking anyway: if HK flips red, I will definatly keep reading everyone in good faith AND thinking at alternatives. (assuming no peeks)

if HK flips green, I will prolly trash all my reads and start over (lol HK and me in that case)

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Vote: HK

I am apparently still swayable.

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Wait is this the MAJ!
@Sunbae @nebjiamn

I actually think Ender just did MAJ HK (Visor's vote on Enderkatt shouldn't count if I understand things right). Lettuce find out

I wanted Visor to have the time :bow:

Lmao

they didn't give nl the time:shame:

Ender: HK is sus. pzelda's wagon is a wolf counter
also Ender: HK is town, never ever touch him.
also Ender: Maj HK :D

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Ender: HK is sus. pzelda's wagon is a wolf counter
also Ender: HK is town, never ever touch him.
also Ender: Maj HK :D

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i dont think it's maj

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

VOTE TALLY

EnderWiggin 4 Syn dyachei Visor baudib
hollowkatt 3 Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd
baudib1 2 hollowkatt EnderWiggin



MAJ is in effect and is 6
EOD is 7pm eastern on 2/8/23

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I think this was the latest vote count?

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Originally Posted by dyachei

I think this was the latest vote count?

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didn't nl move onto hk tho

that'd put him at 6 if the "enderkatt" vote didn't count which I'd assume it didn't?

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Originally Posted by dyachei

I think this was the latest vote count?

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yeap. Since the, Visor, swag and Ender voted HK. None of Ephe, Ladd, me moved iirc. Asking for a friend but

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

yeap. Since the, Visor, swag and Ender voted HK. None of Ephe, Ladd, me moved iirc. Asking for a friend but

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ok I guess that's a thing then

ngl a maj works better with my irl timing. I won't have to be unpleasant and play fm in my inlaw faces who are literally camping at my house (the downside of having kids I guess). no pls flip red. glglgl

*now

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

ngl a maj works better with my irl timing. I won't have to be unpleasant and play fm in my inlaw faces who are literally camping at my house (the downside of having kids I guess). no pls flip red. glglgl

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same. supposed to have dinner with the in laws right before EOD tonight

I believe we have majority. My understanding is visor's vote for 'enderkatt' is not legal and thus the previous vote for hollowkatt stands.

Please stand by and no more posting ITT

VOTE TALLY


hollowkatt 6 Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd yoloswag EnderWiggin Visor
EnderWiggin 3 Syn dyachei baudib
baudib1 1 hollowkatt

hollowkatt has been chopped! They were Vanilla Town!


It is night!

Please send night actions to @Sunbae and @nebjiamn by 6PM EST on 2/9/2023
Night will end at 7PM EST on 2/9/2023

Raskolnikov has died! They were Vanilla Town!


IT IS STILL NIGHT

Alive (8):

1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
3. EnderWiggin
4. Ephemeral
5. Ladd
6. Syn
7. Visor
8. Yoloswag


Dead (7):
Pzelda (Scum Firefighter, d1 chop)
Wisdom (Vanilla Town, n1 death)
Logic (Vanilla Town, d2 poison)
Silverkeith (Vanilla Town, d2 chop)
noraplus (Vanilla Town, n2 death)
HollowKatt (Vanilla Town, d3 chop)
Raskolnikov (Vanilla Town, n3 death)


Majority is in effect. With 8 players alive, Maj is 5. If Maj is reached, please stop posting and let me and benneh know.


The day is scheduled to end 48 hours from now (7pm eastern on 2/11/23)




Day 4 has begun. Have fun!

wow where to begin

an embarrassment to be associated with this game or the village.

Baudib1, quite possibly the worst werewolf player of all time. never has one man posted that many words in a game and been so wrong, so often. painful to even skim your posts. we always hear about these old school players being good back in the day, but they are all just pretty much terrible thinkers and have no clue what is going on most of the time. you don't even get credit for re-reads cause you did 0 critical thinking, just pure aids busy work.

I hate all of you.

vote: EnderWiggin

thanks bye

Team Just Lunch the Wolfy Players took one on the chin so?.

I?m not really sure Ender is a wolf and if he is I?m not sure who his partner is. Is it Syn? Lmao

I do think we?re at a point where we have to consider that ladd is within both ranges but thinking about who his most logical partner is, is so mind bending to me.

ladd/dyachei makes sense, would explain why neither one of them is getting pinged by the other. But like this is so implausible to me. in the context of their wolf game and expectations for engagement/activity, Dya might be the most removed from wolfrange of anyone in the game.

Ladd/Ender is like, pretty weird. I do think ladd questioning him about his hollowkatt read seemed villagery.


The wolfiest thing ladd has done is probably his analysis of this as HK is a wolf who knows Visor is a wolf here. On one level it seems like a pretty in-depth organic thought that doesnt ever come from a wolf but this is ladd we are talking about.

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

ur moneys no good here and you've been riding my jock for two days now. find a new pony or you know do something about it. Like for as vociferous as you've been about HK is a wolf you strangely keep winding up on someone elses wagon at the end of the day, and you don't actually do much to stump for my chop, you're just loudly annoying about it to start a game day and then kinda poofs out.

are you stringing me along and poisoning the well or are you actually trying to solve?
next question: do you have me paired with Ender or do you think I have him fooled?

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Originally Posted by ladd

here is a fun read - when i as catching up and i read this post it almost read like a post made by a wolf who KNOWS visor is a wolf too and is doing some distancing lol

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With HK flipping V this kinda haunts me.

Ladd - I would like to hear more on you saying Syn is a villager because of the Wisdom flip. seems pretty thin but honestly I just want to hear more from you in your thoughts on Syn just to formulate my own read on him.

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vote: EnderWiggin

thanks bye

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If it is not Ender who do you think the team is?

I'm not answering your "let's railroad Syn now" posts, sorry. Do what you like. I won't help you do it.

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Originally Posted by Syn

I'm not answering your "let's railroad Syn now" posts, sorry. Do what you like. I won't help you do it.

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Okie doke

https://i.ibb.co/rZQfDcN/F8-D88-FDC-...BD35-E0-DF.jpg

so we had a claimed pr. I guess they were worried about a doc?

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Originally Posted by dyachei

so we had a claimed pr. I guess they were worried about a doc?

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watcha think about ladd?

Still think it is Ender?

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Originally Posted by baudib1

watcha think about ladd?

Still think it is Ender?

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still dont like ender but I'm not sure because I dont have the best track record reading him

need to reread ladd but probably wont do that tonight

Just gonna hardclaim joat to make game easier for everyone and prob no shot they have 2 charges left? If they have 2 shots left sorry lol

N2 heal rask
N3 rb yolo


If md claims who they MDed n3 we can exclude a team i hope

Bbl

now THIS is interesting

i'm the md

n2 ender - positive

n3 baudib - negative

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

i'm the md

n2 ender - positive

n3 baudib - negative

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Lmao thats funny so ender is outed no?

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Originally Posted by ladd

Lmao thats funny so ender is outed no?

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yep

Alrighty nice

Well i thought team wqs yolo/ender oveenight but i am open to other options (not sure which ones tho?)

Its not me/eph. Not syn. Not visor

Think all of these we can safely say

If my memory serves me right its not dya.

I guess i could re read baudib to make sure its not him?

But before thay i am gonna go back to sleep

def possible yeah, yolo made some p odd posts

but it's almost 6 am so not really in the headspace to think about it too much rn lol

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Originally Posted by ladd

Its not me/eph. Not syn. Not visor

Think all of these we can safely say

If my memory serves me right its not dya.

I guess i could re read baudib to make sure its not him?

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atm i agree it's not nl or dya, very unlikely i change my mind even after going thru stuff again tomorrow

syn I admittedly didn't pay too much attention to in the grand scheme of things so we'll see where that goes

baudib is gonna be a fun one to unpack

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

atm i agree it's not nl or dya, very unlikely i change my mind even after going thru stuff again tomorrow

syn I admittedly didn't pay too much attention to in the grand scheme of things so we'll see where that goes

baudib is gonna be a fun one to unpack

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Syn/ender would be a very looooong buss. I dunno i guess we can consider it but idr see it

Oh the Ephemeral pr read was legit

swag

1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
6. Syn
7. Visor

VOTE TALLY

hollowkatt 6 Ephemeral Raskolnikov ladd yoloswag EnderWiggin Visor
EnderWiggin 3 Syn dyachei baudib
baudib1 1 hollowkatt

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Considering Visor?s POE?ing of ender, that means I?m reading for a bus. Fun

gotta say i didn't expect a maj

but not gonna complain, wouldve kept my vote there anyway most like

ender being a wolf is a sigh of relief tbh, i'll take 2/3 from hk/pzelda/ender

who was your n1 eph?

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Originally Posted by Visor

i am pretty sure ladd is a villager for a specific reason i will reveal later if it ever matters

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the reason is btw i PR read him lol

just had a weird tone to him that wasn't like wolfy ladd tone but not regular free flowing ladd either

nice to see i was right i guess lol

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Originally Posted by Visor

gotta say i didn't expect a maj

but not gonna complain, wouldve kept my vote there anyway most like

ender being a wolf is a sigh of relief tbh, i'll take 2/3 from hk/pzelda/ender

who was your n1 eph?

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hk lol

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

hk lol

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lmao

rip

Alive (8/15):
1. baudib1
2. Dyachei
3. EnderWiggin
4. Ephemeral
5. Ladd
6. Syn
7. Visor
8. Yoloswag

we kill ender

6:1 in the night

if wolves have 2 shots remaining:

one of ladd/eph dies, i probably die

goes to 4:1, if we miskill its 3:1 and two kills means game over, so if wolves have 2 shots this is must lynch basically

if wolves have 1 shot

6:1, sod4:1, sod2:1 we get one extra lynch
or
6:1, sod5:1, 3:1 must lynch with one pr alive potentially?

if wolves have 0 shots remaining

6:1, sod5:1, 3:1

so worst case, its mustlynch best case (either 1 or 0 shots left) we have one miskill available

i think? if i did the maths right

6 v 2

Ender D4, ladd, ephem N4

4 v 1

YOLO/Syn/dya/baudi/Visor

Hm so we get another mislunch if wolves don?t have 2x. If they have both that?s rough, possibly gg

in the worst case world:

tomorrow will v likely be

baudib
dya
eph/ladd
syn
yolo

gun to head i think id go yolo but in that world id be dead so not my problem lol