Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

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Originally Posted by didistetter

uh, no lol

you told me not to so i didn't, that was 10 days ago

Vote: Unvote

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so, you didnt just because i asked? what if i was a wolf fypov and u let me get away with it simply because i asked u not to case me

well im not either way, but now im asking u to wolfcase me like u planned to on d1 and if u have time can u do a proper one and not a tldr one pls n thx

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Originally Posted by Visor

Dya wya on taffy stett Annika and arctic

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Originally Posted by Visor

Lissa isn't trying to solve the game she is just trying to find people to kill

Just kill her

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tbh that might be the difference i sense between her casing me and waza pushing stett.

@didistetter what are you thinkin rn

not just today just overall

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Originally Posted by pzelda

tbh that might be the difference i sense between her casing me and waza pushing stett.

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How so

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Originally Posted by Visor

How so

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Because Waza is pushing Stett to be active and to show their towniness or wolfiness. I think that Lissa just focused on my d2 and she is just pointing out why I might be wolfy without committing to pushing me. I reacted to her post but I didn't feel any urge to do so.

Also her point about me having tmi is a weird angle to push. In what regard? I'm as confused and blind as a villager can be.

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Originally Posted by pzelda

This one. It felt weird Visor asking dya that in such a shortform and she responded in kind of a similar laid back way.

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this is how visor always talks to me? im confused why being laid back is a concern to you here

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Originally Posted by dyachei

this is how visor always talks to me? im confused why being laid back is a concern to you here

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Because it's a potentially fake conversation with a forced laid back tone. Questions running in my head were: Why was he asking about these four names (you probs hadn't included them in your early takes)? Did he work with the information he got from you? And so on. I guess it was more about Visor and his sometimes opaque way of processing information in this game and about him directing the post at you than about your response, which probably isn't really noteworthy outside of the fact that you had a possibly self aware need of pinting out that your takes were "at the odds with a lot of the thread."

It's just one interaction tho. I don't have a whole theory about the two of you being wolves wrapped around it. I'm kind of solid on Visor being town too. In my list of possible pack you/Visor is pretty low and roughly on par with Maple/Visor.

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Originally Posted by didistetter

k well that really does make it look like 2 in ben/lissa/maple huh.

if the inventions are real i jailkept lissa but who tf knows.

today's probs mylo ig

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I missed this. Stett claimed before Taffy. That keeps Taffy/Lissa in the game. It doesn't matter that much as all of my favourite pairings rn include lissa. Rereading that eod. Lissa pushed hard to stay alive. Some of the other players had w/w potential (Maple, dya, maybe even Stett).

Ok, reading it again, maybe little more rested. I quite dislike the way Maple defended lissa at sod. He reposted the exact posts I found wolfy and called them posts a wolf would never make.

My jails *shouldnt* stop the bombs. Unless they don't actually function like douses.

If they DO stop bombs that's EVEN MORE evidence that taff is 3p because that means both wolves and village have anti-arso tools

No but actually why douse lissa she's a cw

And for that matter I don't believe the arctic and holster claims sorry I'm still tunneled

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Originally Posted by Maple

No but actually why douse lissa she's a cw

And for that matter I don't believe the arctic and holster claims sorry I'm still tunneled

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I guess Taffy doused or claimed dousing Lissa because of waza telling them to do so. Tbh, this tunnel is what I like the most about you rn.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

Ben it's a form of cop but I won't say what type.

Pzelda you seemed so sure I was a villager until yesterday and now you're OK with me dying and this is weirding me out a lot

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@Maple why would you give the cop out last?

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Originally Posted by Arctic

hmm

i feel like this push on me comes across as far more pushable than benneh's once i flip, and i'm not sure a wolf knowing full well that my role does exist and is in this setup would try to use that as an argument cuz it's not gonna look good when i flip

i would guess that, as convincing as his acting is, benneh is probably a wolf for all this. i think he was prompted to look at me again because he thought i was vanilla fps'ing based on what i claimed and asked him earlier and he's converted that into a free ML now that he can't just say to ignite me since my claim made me self-resolving. and now he specifically doesn't want to let me act at night either, which is another thing i take problem with because wolves are not going to want to let me act tonight

i think lissa deciding to make 10 posts about me being outted mafia and preflipping based off that comes across as performative. i think she's intentionally trying to come across as lacking TMI on me. good wolves see situations like this and decide to preflip the villager wolf and make a bunch of nonsense solving so they can look like they didn't have TMI after the flip. but i think a villager here would still be uncertain, or at least uncertain enough to the point of not deciding to treat me as outted mafia or make their entire solve based on my posts before even getting my flip

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What he said

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Originally Posted by waza

so, you didnt just because i asked? what if i was a wolf fypov and u let me get away with it simply because i asked u not to case me

well im not either way, but now im asking u to wolfcase me like u planned to on d1 and if u have time can u do a proper one and not a tldr one pls n thx

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i'm not going to waste my time wolfcasing someone i don't think is a wolf. It's performative and a waste and basically requires me to just force reads. It wouldn't be natural like it would when i did sus you and I can't reconstruct that mindspace.

There's no real reason for w!you to kill ladd so i do not care about you rn. (in the nicest way possible).

my biggest concerns are
1. figuring out if there's any possible world taffy is a wolf
2. making absolute sure the world can't be maple/benneh or taffy/benneh, which are probably the only worlds we lose to today if we vote lissa

Man y'all are just wrong

Benneh and Lissa are wolves

In tired of y'all just ignoring benneh being a wolf

He's a wolf

Just because he can write nice posts doesn't change the actual facts of what happened this game

They're both Wolves

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I guess Taffy doused or claimed dousing Lissa because of waza telling them to do so. Tbh, this tunnel is what I like the most about you rn.

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waza told taffy to douse maple no?

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Originally Posted by Visor

Man y'all are just wrong

Benneh and Lissa are wolves

In tired of y'all just ignoring benneh being a wolf

He's a wolf

Just because he can write nice posts doesn't change the actual facts of what happened this game

They're both Wolves

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i kinda think he is but i don't want him to be which is why i've kinda been zoned out a bit today cause i let myself get ated again if he's wolf and that feels belh

i do wanna know why maple gave out cop last tho

The way Lissa treated ender was super Wolfy

It's possible maple is also a wolf but I don't care to figure it out rn, just kill benneh and Lissa first

Vote: Lissa

funnily enough if ben is a wolf

i had jk on him most of the night but swapped last min

so lolme

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Originally Posted by annika

hmm
he's kinda wolfie tho imo

not really just for his scumread on me—specifically saying he thinks Arctic and I are a diff check in 336 doesn't track for me when Arctic and I haven't interacted at all and... should pretty easily be partners from his PoV

he says he's not sure why he thinks that, which is fair, but it's still odd to me

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Annika goat

vote: maple

kill me today instead, i'd rather not participate in a stupid threadstate tomorrow

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Originally Posted by didistetter

@Maple why would you give the cop out last?

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It's the worst of the three abilities, trust me.

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Originally Posted by ladd

visor i could see being a wolf more than sunbae, i do think some of his switch of reads have been a bit opportunistic and i havent vibed with his posts in the second half as much as the first half - i wouldnt even rule out him being w/w with taffy. he is prolly out of my v reads tbh

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ladd goat

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Originally Posted by didistetter

i'm not going to waste my time wolfcasing someone i don't think is a wolf. It's performative and a waste and basically requires me to just force reads. It wouldn't be natural like it would when i did sus you and I can't reconstruct that mindspace.

There's no real reason for w!you to kill ladd so i do not care about you rn. (in the nicest way possible).

my biggest concerns are
1. figuring out if there's any possible world taffy is a wolf
2. making absolute sure the world can't be maple/benneh or taffy/benneh, which are probably the only worlds we lose to today if we vote lissa

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if taff is a wolf her role has to be VERY different to what we think it is, doesnt make sense for them to have ff/arso. no idea wtf it would be but like yeah nah

as far as me and benneh goes shrug idk i can see why you'd think its a possiblity based off of d1 + me swapping to defending him so Fair Enough i suppose

idk i think like without the mantichora paranoia i should be pretty clearly a villager here like sure i fucked some stuff up but this setup literally only make sense if im a villager and like idk wtf am i doing if im a wolff lol like i got NO threadpull this game and im just really not effecive not really sure how i can fix that

like im pushing taff and i genuinly DO NOT understand why no one else sees what im seeing??? like am i crazy?

refocusing

dya you visor v that's for sure

tahts 4, 5 left, i need +1. idk i think visor is right. like i guess on a basic level waza and zelda are slots that lissa has treated similarly and if we interpret that as "looking for a way out", basically, then like there you have it, prob both v. so fuck it sure, benneh is the second wolf.

reads have been bad af this game if this is true

like WHY does taff get feedback on douses and why did a jail stop the douse + she claimed it after you already claimed your jail so ???

but my jail only stops kill and RBs

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Originally Posted by Maple

if taff is a wolf her role has to be VERY different to what we think it is, doesnt make sense for them to have ff/arso. no idea wtf it would be but like yeah nah

as far as me and benneh goes shrug idk i can see why you'd think its a possiblity based off of d1 + me swapping to defending him so Fair Enough i suppose

idk i think like without the mantichora paranoia i should be pretty clearly a villager here like sure i fucked some stuff up but this setup literally only make sense if im a villager and like idk wtf am i doing if im a wolff lol like i got NO threadpull this game and im just really not effecive not really sure how i can fix that

like im pushing taff and i genuinly DO NOT understand why no one else sees what im seeing??? like am i crazy?

refocusing

dya you visor v that's for sure

tahts 4, 5 left, i need +1. idk i think visor is right. like i guess on a basic level waza and zelda are slots that lissa has treated similarly and if we interpret that as "looking for a way out", basically, then like there you have it, prob both v. so fuck it sure, benneh is the second wolf.

reads have been bad af this game if this is true

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I suppose it’s the case of the enbywhocriedwolf

If that’s not your correct pronouns sorry but iirc you had an account named with enby or mayeb that was Akane who made that account

But yeah ur claim doesn’t make sense lol, I already sort of went over some issues with it and yeah then you deciding to give it to dya who I don’t ever remembering seeing you tr is just as concerning. You fakeclaim pr so much as wolf that ig it has caught up to you if ur town here because the moment you do something questionable we’re just gonna doubt you and everything you say lol. I do think it’s unlikely for u and taffy to both be town so I do wish taffy just ignited your slot lol and then we could rethink stuff accordingly from whatever alignment and role u flipped

Plus fmpov you were tunneled on Annika d1 and pushed me to save lissa yesterday so if lissa is a wolf it’s hard for me to come around to your worldview because I know it’s been incorrect. But that doesn’t mean it’s all completely incorrect, on average we are all probably more or less the same amount of incorrevt with a few exceptions that’s usually how town goes, but yeah I think it would be easier to come around to ur worldview if people saw you solve outside of taffy and if you make towny posts and good conclusions on slots outside of taffy it’ll help us come around to a world on taffy in which you are correct and town

But like fmpov you kinda just beeen meowing most of each day phase then you rock up at eod to do some stuff I disagree with so yeah it’s hard to come around to whatever ur selling as a result friendo

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

ladd goat

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U really think it’s visor? I feel like he’s just town regardless of whether he’s right or not on you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9rgGueO6Cs

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Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1789

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
5	Lissa	Totally not Taffy (2), Visor (13), didistetter (19), pzelda (16), waza (20)
1	Totally not Taffy	Maple (17)
1	Maple	nebjiamn (21)
2	Not Voting	Lissa (13), dyachei (9)

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Originally Posted by Maple

like WHY does taff get feedback on douses and why did a jail stop the douse + she claimed it after you already claimed your jail so ???

but my jail only stops kill and RBs

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huh.

k maybe its taffy/lissa then and lissa voted rask over taffy not cause of the pr read but cause of w/w wagons.

bleh

you know 100% for sure your jailkeep *only* stops kills and not other actions?

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

kill me today instead, i'd rather not participate in a stupid threadstate tomorrow

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@nebjiamn ben if ur town we would probs lose if we mislunched you today :wowee:

which is more viable iyo?

odd night redirector bodyguard, even night redirector bodyguard, inventor who gives track/jailkeep/?cop?

or

odd night redirector bodyguard, even night redirector bodyguard, bomb planter who gets feedback on successful plants and who's implantations count as a killing action?

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Originally Posted by didistetter

huh.

k maybe its taffy/lissa then and lissa voted rask over taffy not cause of the pr read but cause of w/w wagons.

bleh

you know 100% for sure your jailkeep *only* stops kills and not other actions?

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Yeah you'd have protected from kills + cause actions used by the target to fail

*other* actions used on your target would still work. 100p

Vote: Taffy

maybe i do want to see ur supposed scumcase on me

enby is correct, and i own the enbyfrogtapioca account

idk dude i literally have been saying that i think dya is v and have come back around to that conclusion on each reevaluation so i dont get why yall are calling me a troll for giving them an invention like its a good choice when the other options all have teh chance to die in teh night

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Originally Posted by didistetter

huh.

k maybe its taffy/lissa then and lissa voted rask over taffy not cause of the pr read but cause of w/w wagons.

bleh

you know 100% for sure your jailkeep *only* stops kills and not other actions?

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The fun world is Lissa/taffy and Lissa voted a lost wolf in rask

Should look up how Lissa and taffy treated each other

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Originally Posted by Maple

enby is correct, and i own the enbyfrogtapioca account

idk dude i literally have been saying that i think dya is v and have come back around to that conclusion on each reevaluation so i dont get why yall are calling me a troll for giving them an invention like its a good choice when the other options all have teh chance to die in teh night

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What about them did u find towny? My issue was you trd them enough to give them a gift but not enough to mention them as a tr when you were going through your initial reads today

Why not give it to Zelda who was more tr’d, did you think they would die?

Don’t get me wrong

Dya is a great choice to give it to if they’re b and ur v

But it’s like ladd says, they’re not really a v read someone who doesn’t know them well would have gotten to as easily

If they’re v* and you’re v

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Originally Posted by waza

Don’t get me wrong

Dya is a great choice to give it to if they’re b and ur v

But it’s like ladd says, they’re not really a v read someone who doesn’t know them well would have gotten to as easily

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Im sorry but I absolutely have issues with this.

1. Manti knows me well
2. I was clearly obvious v yesterday and most people have been saying that I'm villagery when I'm in thread.

You guys just all forget about that when i can't be in thread. I would have preferred manti give it to someone else, but I guess I get his reasoning

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Originally Posted by waza

U really think it’s visor? I feel like he’s just town regardless of whether he’s right or not on you

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Not really, but I don’t think he’s clear from his lissa push tbh

im more just pointing out the stupid cherry picking

do you tihnk lissa is a wolf at this point benneh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jsEs1NBrUY

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Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1802

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
4	Lissa	Totally not Taffy (2), Visor (14), pzelda (16), waza (24)
2	Totally not Taffy	Maple (19), didistetter (22)
1	Maple	nebjiamn (22)
2	Not Voting	Lissa (13), dyachei (10)

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Originally Posted by Visor

The fun world is Lissa/taffy and Lissa voted a lost wolf in rask

Should look up how Lissa and taffy treated each other

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Why do you keep spinning the world rask is the most wolf lol

If one exists it’s clearly not him from his flip

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Originally Posted by Visor

do you tihnk lissa is a wolf at this point benneh

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85% to be wolf imo

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Originally Posted by dyachei

Im sorry but I absolutely have issues with this.

1. Manti knows me well
2. I was clearly obvious v yesterday and most people have been saying that I'm villagery when I'm in thread.

You guys just all forget about that when i can't be in thread. I would have preferred manti give it to someone else, but I guess I get his reasoning

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Ah I didn’t realise manti knew you well, my bad I’ll take ur word for it then

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

Why do you keep spinning the world rask is the most wolf lol

If one exists it’s clearly not him from his flip

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why would he learn alignment if he wasnt a lost wolf

what on earth is the point of learnign alignment otherwise

Just to be clear nothing on my end would cause Taffy's bomb to fail.

And her getting feedback on whether the bomb planting succeeded makes it even more likely she's a neutral imo, that makes a lot less sense for a villa than a neutral.

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I knew about Benneh's post. Idk how to explain my activity there. It was something I took into account. It's why I was sitting on Arctic (mostly). It was my reason for talking about arctic and their claim a lot. I probably would move my vote and my focus more otherwise, because there were moments I found villa (esp. from "an outed wolf") like the level of activity and them trying to leave legacy.

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I'm not saying you didn't know about it, but you not acknowledging it a single time basically is just bizarre.

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Originally Posted by Visor

Lissa isn't trying to solve the game she is just trying to find people to kill

Just kill her

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nah game is strange though ngl

i spent like most of a month straight wolfing before this game it's definitely done weird stuff to my play in this game. some parts of that also made me really start thinking about elements of my village play that are ineffective. I feel like I mostly ended up falling into the traps of the same stuff anyway though? unfortunately lol

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Originally Posted by pzelda

This one. It felt weird Visor asking dya that in such a shortform and she responded in kind of a similar laid back way.

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how so? seems like a pretty normal interaction to me

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Originally Posted by pzelda

Because it's a potentially fake conversation with a forced laid back tone. Questions running in my head were: Why was he asking about these four names (you probs hadn't included them in your early takes)? Did he work with the information he got from you? And so on. I guess it was more about Visor and his sometimes opaque way of processing information in this game and about him directing the post at you than about your response, which probably isn't really noteworthy outside of the fact that you had a possibly self aware need of pinting out that your takes were "at the odds with a lot of the thread."

It's just one interaction tho. I don't have a whole theory about the two of you being wolves wrapped around it. I'm kind of solid on Visor being town too. In my list of possible pack you/Visor is pretty low and roughly on par with Maple/Visor.

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Yeah I just don't understand this at all. What about it reads specifically potentially fake/forced?

feel like maple giving dya an invention is like one of the least of note things she's done lmao

waza latching onto that is like

hrm

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Originally Posted by Lissa

feel like maple giving dya an invention is like one of the least of note things she's done lmao

waza latching onto that is like

hrm

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You mean the part where I questioned the person that you are repping to be your strongest wolfread today?

Or the part where stett who is your strongest townread shared a similar concern?

Which part of it did I latch onto fypov? I explained why I found it weird for them to tr dya fmpov but then dya cleared it up for me somewhat and I let it go. What’s wrong fypov?

I hope you don’t take this questioning as another attempt at me burying you lol, which by the way visor has been doing for 3 days straight and you still haven’t addressed that

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Originally Posted by waza

You mean the part where I questioned the person that you are repping to be your strongest wolfread today?

Or the part where stett who is your strongest townread shared a similar concern?

Which part of it did I latch onto fypov? I explained why I found it weird for them to tr dya fmpov but then dya cleared it up for me somewhat and I let it go. What’s wrong fypov?

I hope you don’t take this questioning as another attempt at me burying you lol, which by the way visor has been doing for 3 days straight and you still haven’t addressed that

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yes I do, it made me wonder if it might come from a tmi place because of all the things to find objectionable about her posting/behavior itg, that one was a weird one. even without the dynamic context I feel like dya made sense there

maybe latch on wasn't the right word or maybe we're thinking of it as different meanings idk

I actually did engage with visor a little while ago. most of what he's said before I haven't really been sure what to say to honestly, and yesterday I also didn't really have a lot of time/energy for most of the day due to oog stuff

his push before today was basically like. recent game comparison which I don't really think I've actually played much like, uncharitability to arctic which i think i did talk about some

then my eod yesterday

reasons me and benneh are both wolves, which i engaged with

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Originally Posted by Visor

why would he learn alignment if he wasnt a lost wolf

what on earth is the point of learnign alignment otherwise

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It serves as a way for the pack to find the lost wolf? Shrug

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Lissa dropping in, posting a couple times, and then three hours later hitting us with the "wow im glad i randed villa" opener is the weirdest post in the thread

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

I found Sunbae's post about Lissa a bit weird tbh

bc I read that Lissa post and my very first thought was "oh a game just ended" bc that kind of posts is pretty common?
the "wow I'm so relieved that game is over so now I can finally say X" type of post

and Sunbae is a lot more experienced that I am so I am a bit boggled that he wouldn't recognise it
so if anything it looked a bit performative to me

The same way someone suggested that Happy might have immediately reversed his read on Stett just because it looks like a towny thought process, that's what Sunbae's remark looked like to me.

Taffy (6)

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i've been rereading d1, and idt waza/maple/ben are like ever with lissa

fo fuckit maybe it just is lissa/taffy

i probs sohuld have holstered my jk claim until after taffy talked about douses bleh

feel like i gave her free space to claim a faildouse

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Originally Posted by didistetter

i've been rereading d1, and idt waza/maple/ben are like ever with lissa

fo fuckit maybe it just is lissa/taffy

i probs sohuld have holstered my jk claim until after taffy talked about douses bleh

feel like i gave her free space to claim a faildouse

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Can you go over those unpairings pls n thx

Can you also let me know if you find anything about Zelda

I was trying to poke her thoughts about you and Zelda earlier on the day because I wanted to try and feign that I was open to the idea of her being town and considering other slots in the hopes I could get her to provide spew we could look at later. But err after visors last string of posts I think she’s pretty much accepted it’s over which is why she’s pretty much just gone back to the fruitless task of shading me which ig is to minimize spew since I already look good off her

I specifically chose you and Zelda because you two were me candidates for a deepwolf but when I did look back on stuff you both seemed fine enough. I did find some of the stuff she said from Zelda to be convincing so I was wondering if that’s because they were w/w (it’s easier to sound convincing when you are casing someone who actually is a wolf) and yeah Zelda didn’t really react much to her posts either and his posts todays were kinda meh… but when I look back at his earlier stuff he still seems pretty towny

lol I give up too many people doing confusing stuff and not enough posts or time to figure stuff out

Gl after we go lissa, I’m not convinced taffy is the partner because yeah idk why Annika and ladd die if it’s lissa/taffy given they both were against a taffy wagon before they died, but meh kinda hard for me to feel confident they’re town either given mech stuff not making sense and mech in general

Visor probs gets nkd tonight and it’s it not him hopefully it’s me lol, I don’t think Ben is the last but yeah he probs doesn’t get voted unless he advocates for it to happen, which ig may happen but yeah lol

Everyone else has done towny stuff but scummy stuff too and I yeah I lack the wim and time to parse it esp when thread feels dead and postcap means I can’t really just force content out from people either so yeah gl

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Lissa dropping in, posting a couple times, and then three hours later hitting us with the "wow im glad i randed villa" opener is the weirdest post in the thread

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

I found Sunbae's post about Lissa a bit weird tbh

bc I read that Lissa post and my very first thought was "oh a game just ended" bc that kind of posts is pretty common?
the "wow I'm so relieved that game is over so now I can finally say X" type of post

and Sunbae is a lot more experienced that I am so I am a bit boggled that he wouldn't recognise it
so if anything it looked a bit performative to me

The same way someone suggested that Happy might have immediately reversed his read on Stett just because it looks like a towny thought process, that's what Sunbae's remark looked like to me.

Taffy (6)

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Originally Posted by waza

Can you go over those unpairings pls n thx

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ben was pushing lissa a fair bit d1, and lissa jumped onto his arctic mech sus in a way that doesn't feel w/w
you had some really shady stuff towards lissa d1 and yalls back and forth and mutual sus yesterday/today doesn't really feel like distancing as much as a wrestling contest for control

maple/lissa also had posting towards each other d1 that just rlly didn't feel paired.

I can quote if you need me to: all of it is outta range now so i'll have to control f to hunt it down

imma be so fr i'm starting to realize i'm straight up worse at town without the abillity to iso. It's how i recent and quickly scan for info and having that tool removed just really wrecks my ability to focus lol

its like... trying to write a research paper without any indexes or table of contents

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Originally Posted by Gemma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jsEs1NBrUY

:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow:
Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1802

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
4	Lissa	Totally not Taffy (2), Visor (14), pzelda (16), waza (24)
2	Totally not Taffy	Maple (19), didistetter (22)
1	Maple	nebjiamn (22)
2	Not Voting	Lissa (13), dyachei (10)

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given the low ass posting in general today i'm kinda assuming either this is a miss and game is gonna end or it's a hit and people are just burnt out/don't know how to solve.

bit rough but ik i've been lower volume too

I don't think game should end today even if three alive wolves like I expect and we get it wrong

But I'll be around close to EOD to do some more work

Where are you at rn stett

I think everyone should full claim though

I’m pretty sure we’re all just VTs otherwise they really shoulda claimed earlier so we coulda punted maple/taffy

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Originally Posted by Visor

I think everyone should full claim though

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VT

exciting stuff, I know

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Originally Posted by Visor

I don't think game should end today even if three alive wolves like I expect and we get it wrong

But I'll be around close to EOD to do some more work

Where are you at rn stett

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absolute worst case should be 3 ppl ignite tonight which would leave us at 3:2 tomorrow in the absolute worst worlds where theres an arso + lost wolf

actaully i did the math wrong cause we'd lose today in that scenario

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Originally Posted by Visor

Man y'all are just wrong

Benneh and Lissa are wolves

In tired of y'all just ignoring benneh being a wolf

He's a wolf

Just because he can write nice posts doesn't change the actual facts of what happened this game

They're both Wolves

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I like this post. I'm not sure I'm on the same page (I mindmelded with Benneh several times) but It's def something to consider.

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Originally Posted by Lissa

Just to be clear nothing on my end would cause Taffy's bomb to fail.

And her getting feedback on whether the bomb planting succeeded makes it even more likely she's a neutral imo, that makes a lot less sense for a villa than a neutral.



I'm not saying you didn't know about it, but you not acknowledging it a single time basically is just bizarre.



nah game is strange though ngl

i spent like most of a month straight wolfing before this game it's definitely done weird stuff to my play in this game. some parts of that also made me really start thinking about elements of my village play that are ineffective. I feel like I mostly ended up falling into the traps of the same stuff anyway though? unfortunately lol



how so? seems like a pretty normal interaction to me



Yeah I just don't understand this at all. What about it reads specifically potentially fake/forced?

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I thought I managed to explain it in the post. Maybe the way it was so minimal, just few words. My impression was that Visor went for the minimal amount of words to make it look natural.

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Originally Posted by Visor

I think everyone should full claim though

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VT, quite obviously.

vote: lissa

stett idk what you read that unpairs me with lissa day 1 but i cleared her pretty easily iirc lol

dont worry tho u got it right still

ladd had a post about pzelda being an obvious town that wolves will prob need/try to miselim at some point. IMO just sheep that cause even if I think some of pzelda's posts are kinda weird, i think ladd is/was probably more correct about that as a future game state than i am concerned about a pzelda snow

and in the worlds lissa flips w i could see her posting this way about pzelda to sort of reverse wifom anti-spew them as looking partner-y for how she's treated them on a day phase where she's the main wagon/almost always going over

I don't remember if I hit submit om the post, but I dont think lissa is likely to be with Zelda and waza for the similar reason that those two are what she presented as her wine path to success wine.

Like, she was saying 2/3 in there and I suppose planned to try to just nuke all three of us and win from there.

I'm especially concerned because, you guessed it, taff. If we miss today and she's 3p fwict she can only ignite if she has both wolves doused? And that brings game to f4. And if we get brought to an f4 by taff tomorrow FUCKING KILL HER PLEASE we are not kingmaking in favour of taff!3p.

Releastically, she needs 1 more douse as either alignment, no?

So yeah yall PLEASE don't give her a free win here.

Anyway, arso rant aside. Not giving the last details of my role yet, yall know I gave a soft invest to dyachei. No further info for the moment.

Wanna hear about stetts d1 unpairings, particularly for benneh. Like yeah idk I think I talked about it earlier but that read is messing with me.

Meow meow

Lol I guess he's the last person in my poe outside of taff now I think about it. If they're both wolves I guess I don't have to feel *too* awful about my reads.

we should def give taffy a free win if she's 3p

fuck wolves

vote: taffy

not that I'm not fine with a lissa wagon, I'm more playing the odds

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Originally Posted by dyachei

vote: taffy

not that I'm not fine with a lissa wagon, I'm more playing the odds

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the odds of what?

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

we should def give taffy a free win if she's 3p

fuck wolves

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I would lose my fucjing mind dude

I’m still voting lissa

I don’t trust manti enough, if the game really depended on killing taffy you should have been there on d1 d2 d3 instead of voting to save lissa yesterday, sorry if ur town and correct on this manti but it’s hard to not rule out the fact u could be a wolf trying to get lissa another day (even if I think that is the more unlikely scenario)

And yeah like Ben said I frankly don’t care about losing to 3p if that’s the case, I didn’t even know 3ps are run in these setups, I play the game to find town and catch wolves, whatever happens with 3p is whatever to me, I won’t consider it a loss if they win so long as we killed wolves along the way

Plus you trying to shade benneh is wolfy lol

(Sorry in advance again to you and visor if Ben is actually a wolfy and yall are goating)

It is not night :embarassed:

I am very sorry, somehow my sense of time got messed up and I just tried to check last night's flip... when there wasn't one.

I'll go check my mentions

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Originally Posted by didistetter

blehhhhh i've decided a lim on an afks wolf is scum sided actually

@Totally not Taffy you're saying you get feedback on whether your bomb planting is successful or not??

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Originally Posted by waza

@Totally not Taffy

Wdym you tried and failed? How are you aware that it failed? Is that part of ur role? Ngl I haven’t event read ur claim yet lmao or most of the claims I was just going off what people said in thread so if the answer is already in ur original claim then it’s okay I’ll probs figure it out eventually

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Ok this is basically the same question
I started D2 with one bomb less than I had D1, so I know I either placed a bomb on Arctic or it got redirected to Sunbae
Today I have the same number of bombs as I had yesterday, so Lissa is unbombed