Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

[dyachei]

Don’t get me wrong

Dya is a great choice to give it to if they’re b and ur v

But it’s like ladd says, they’re not really a v read someone who doesn’t know them well would have gotten to as easily

Im sorry but I absolutely have issues with this.

1. Manti knows me well
2. I was clearly obvious v yesterday and most people have been saying that I'm villagery when I'm in thread.

You guys just all forget about that when i can't be in thread. I would have preferred manti give it to someone else, but I guess I get his reasoning

[nebjiamn]

U really think it’s visor? I feel like he’s just town regardless of whether he’s right or not on you

Not really, but I don’t think he’s clear from his lissa push tbh

im more just pointing out the stupid cherry picking

[Visor]

do you tihnk lissa is a wolf at this point benneh

[Gemma]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1802

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
4	Lissa	Totally not Taffy (2), Visor (14), pzelda (16), waza (24)
2	Totally not Taffy	Maple (19), didistetter (22)
1	Maple	nebjiamn (22)
2	Not Voting	Lissa (13), dyachei (10)

[nebjiamn]

The fun world is Lissa/taffy and Lissa voted a lost wolf in rask

Should look up how Lissa and taffy treated each other

Why do you keep spinning the world rask is the most wolf lol

If one exists it’s clearly not him from his flip

[nebjiamn]

do you tihnk lissa is a wolf at this point benneh

85% to be wolf imo

[waza]

Im sorry but I absolutely have issues with this.

1. Manti knows me well
2. I was clearly obvious v yesterday and most people have been saying that I'm villagery when I'm in thread.

You guys just all forget about that when i can't be in thread. I would have preferred manti give it to someone else, but I guess I get his reasoning

Ah I didn’t realise manti knew you well, my bad I’ll take ur word for it then

[Visor]

Why do you keep spinning the world rask is the most wolf lol

If one exists it’s clearly not him from his flip

why would he learn alignment if he wasnt a lost wolf

what on earth is the point of learnign alignment otherwise

[Lissa]

Just to be clear nothing on my end would cause Taffy's bomb to fail.

And her getting feedback on whether the bomb planting succeeded makes it even more likely she's a neutral imo, that makes a lot less sense for a villa than a neutral.

I knew about Benneh's post. Idk how to explain my activity there. It was something I took into account. It's why I was sitting on Arctic (mostly). It was my reason for talking about arctic and their claim a lot. I probably would move my vote and my focus more otherwise, because there were moments I found villa (esp. from "an outed wolf") like the level of activity and them trying to leave legacy.

I'm not saying you didn't know about it, but you not acknowledging it a single time basically is just bizarre.

Lissa isn't trying to solve the game she is just trying to find people to kill

Just kill her

nah game is strange though ngl

i spent like most of a month straight wolfing before this game it's definitely done weird stuff to my play in this game. some parts of that also made me really start thinking about elements of my village play that are ineffective. I feel like I mostly ended up falling into the traps of the same stuff anyway though? unfortunately lol

This one. It felt weird Visor asking dya that in such a shortform and she responded in kind of a similar laid back way.

how so? seems like a pretty normal interaction to me

Because it's a potentially fake conversation with a forced laid back tone. Questions running in my head were: Why was he asking about these four names (you probs hadn't included them in your early takes)? Did he work with the information he got from you? And so on. I guess it was more about Visor and his sometimes opaque way of processing information in this game and about him directing the post at you than about your response, which probably isn't really noteworthy outside of the fact that you had a possibly self aware need of pinting out that your takes were "at the odds with a lot of the thread."

It's just one interaction tho. I don't have a whole theory about the two of you being wolves wrapped around it. I'm kind of solid on Visor being town too. In my list of possible pack you/Visor is pretty low and roughly on par with Maple/Visor.

Yeah I just don't understand this at all. What about it reads specifically potentially fake/forced?

[Lissa]

feel like maple giving dya an invention is like one of the least of note things she's done lmao

waza latching onto that is like

hrm

[waza]

feel like maple giving dya an invention is like one of the least of note things she's done lmao

waza latching onto that is like

hrm

You mean the part where I questioned the person that you are repping to be your strongest wolfread today?

Or the part where stett who is your strongest townread shared a similar concern?

Which part of it did I latch onto fypov? I explained why I found it weird for them to tr dya fmpov but then dya cleared it up for me somewhat and I let it go. What’s wrong fypov?

I hope you don’t take this questioning as another attempt at me burying you lol, which by the way visor has been doing for 3 days straight and you still haven’t addressed that

[Lissa]

You mean the part where I questioned the person that you are repping to be your strongest wolfread today?

Or the part where stett who is your strongest townread shared a similar concern?

Which part of it did I latch onto fypov? I explained why I found it weird for them to tr dya fmpov but then dya cleared it up for me somewhat and I let it go. What’s wrong fypov?

I hope you don’t take this questioning as another attempt at me burying you lol, which by the way visor has been doing for 3 days straight and you still haven’t addressed that

yes I do, it made me wonder if it might come from a tmi place because of all the things to find objectionable about her posting/behavior itg, that one was a weird one. even without the dynamic context I feel like dya made sense there

maybe latch on wasn't the right word or maybe we're thinking of it as different meanings idk

I actually did engage with visor a little while ago. most of what he's said before I haven't really been sure what to say to honestly, and yesterday I also didn't really have a lot of time/energy for most of the day due to oog stuff

[Lissa]

his push before today was basically like. recent game comparison which I don't really think I've actually played much like, uncharitability to arctic which i think i did talk about some

then my eod yesterday

reasons me and benneh are both wolves, which i engaged with

[nebjiamn]

why would he learn alignment if he wasnt a lost wolf

what on earth is the point of learnign alignment otherwise

It serves as a way for the pack to find the lost wolf? Shrug

[didistetter]

Lissa dropping in, posting a couple times, and then three hours later hitting us with the "wow im glad i randed villa" opener is the weirdest post in the thread

I found Sunbae's post about Lissa a bit weird tbh

bc I read that Lissa post and my very first thought was "oh a game just ended" bc that kind of posts is pretty common?
the "wow I'm so relieved that game is over so now I can finally say X" type of post

and Sunbae is a lot more experienced that I am so I am a bit boggled that he wouldn't recognise it
so if anything it looked a bit performative to me

The same way someone suggested that Happy might have immediately reversed his read on Stett just because it looks like a towny thought process, that's what Sunbae's remark looked like to me.

Taffy (6)

i've been rereading d1, and idt waza/maple/ben are like ever with lissa

fo fuckit maybe it just is lissa/taffy

i probs sohuld have holstered my jk claim until after taffy talked about douses bleh

feel like i gave her free space to claim a faildouse

[waza]

i've been rereading d1, and idt waza/maple/ben are like ever with lissa

fo fuckit maybe it just is lissa/taffy

i probs sohuld have holstered my jk claim until after taffy talked about douses bleh

feel like i gave her free space to claim a faildouse

Can you go over those unpairings pls n thx

[waza]

Can you also let me know if you find anything about Zelda

I was trying to poke her thoughts about you and Zelda earlier on the day because I wanted to try and feign that I was open to the idea of her being town and considering other slots in the hopes I could get her to provide spew we could look at later. But err after visors last string of posts I think she’s pretty much accepted it’s over which is why she’s pretty much just gone back to the fruitless task of shading me which ig is to minimize spew since I already look good off her

I specifically chose you and Zelda because you two were me candidates for a deepwolf but when I did look back on stuff you both seemed fine enough. I did find some of the stuff she said from Zelda to be convincing so I was wondering if that’s because they were w/w (it’s easier to sound convincing when you are casing someone who actually is a wolf) and yeah Zelda didn’t really react much to her posts either and his posts todays were kinda meh… but when I look back at his earlier stuff he still seems pretty towny

[waza]

lol I give up too many people doing confusing stuff and not enough posts or time to figure stuff out

Gl after we go lissa, I’m not convinced taffy is the partner because yeah idk why Annika and ladd die if it’s lissa/taffy given they both were against a taffy wagon before they died, but meh kinda hard for me to feel confident they’re town either given mech stuff not making sense and mech in general

Visor probs gets nkd tonight and it’s it not him hopefully it’s me lol, I don’t think Ben is the last but yeah he probs doesn’t get voted unless he advocates for it to happen, which ig may happen but yeah lol

Everyone else has done towny stuff but scummy stuff too and I yeah I lack the wim and time to parse it esp when thread feels dead and postcap means I can’t really just force content out from people either so yeah gl

[didistetter]

Lissa dropping in, posting a couple times, and then three hours later hitting us with the "wow im glad i randed villa" opener is the weirdest post in the thread

I found Sunbae's post about Lissa a bit weird tbh

bc I read that Lissa post and my very first thought was "oh a game just ended" bc that kind of posts is pretty common?
the "wow I'm so relieved that game is over so now I can finally say X" type of post

and Sunbae is a lot more experienced that I am so I am a bit boggled that he wouldn't recognise it
so if anything it looked a bit performative to me

The same way someone suggested that Happy might have immediately reversed his read on Stett just because it looks like a towny thought process, that's what Sunbae's remark looked like to me.

Taffy (6)

Can you go over those unpairings pls n thx

ben was pushing lissa a fair bit d1, and lissa jumped onto his arctic mech sus in a way that doesn't feel w/w
you had some really shady stuff towards lissa d1 and yalls back and forth and mutual sus yesterday/today doesn't really feel like distancing as much as a wrestling contest for control

maple/lissa also had posting towards each other d1 that just rlly didn't feel paired.

I can quote if you need me to: all of it is outta range now so i'll have to control f to hunt it down

imma be so fr i'm starting to realize i'm straight up worse at town without the abillity to iso. It's how i recent and quickly scan for info and having that tool removed just really wrecks my ability to focus lol

its like... trying to write a research paper without any indexes or table of contents

[didistetter]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 4 - Votes from post 1657 through 1802

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
4	Lissa	Totally not Taffy (2), Visor (14), pzelda (16), waza (24)
2	Totally not Taffy	Maple (19), didistetter (22)
1	Maple	nebjiamn (22)
2	Not Voting	Lissa (13), dyachei (10)

given the low ass posting in general today i'm kinda assuming either this is a miss and game is gonna end or it's a hit and people are just burnt out/don't know how to solve.

bit rough but ik i've been lower volume too

[Visor]

I don't think game should end today even if three alive wolves like I expect and we get it wrong

But I'll be around close to EOD to do some more work

Where are you at rn stett

[Visor]

I think everyone should full claim though

[waza]

I’m pretty sure we’re all just VTs otherwise they really shoulda claimed earlier so we coulda punted maple/taffy

[dyachei]

I think everyone should full claim though

VT

exciting stuff, I know

[nebjiamn]

I don't think game should end today even if three alive wolves like I expect and we get it wrong

But I'll be around close to EOD to do some more work

Where are you at rn stett

absolute worst case should be 3 ppl ignite tonight which would leave us at 3:2 tomorrow in the absolute worst worlds where theres an arso + lost wolf

[nebjiamn]

actaully i did the math wrong cause we'd lose today in that scenario

[pzelda]

Man y'all are just wrong

Benneh and Lissa are wolves

In tired of y'all just ignoring benneh being a wolf

He's a wolf

Just because he can write nice posts doesn't change the actual facts of what happened this game

They're both Wolves

I like this post. I'm not sure I'm on the same page (I mindmelded with Benneh several times) but It's def something to consider.

[pzelda]

Just to be clear nothing on my end would cause Taffy's bomb to fail.

And her getting feedback on whether the bomb planting succeeded makes it even more likely she's a neutral imo, that makes a lot less sense for a villa than a neutral.



I'm not saying you didn't know about it, but you not acknowledging it a single time basically is just bizarre.



nah game is strange though ngl

i spent like most of a month straight wolfing before this game it's definitely done weird stuff to my play in this game. some parts of that also made me really start thinking about elements of my village play that are ineffective. I feel like I mostly ended up falling into the traps of the same stuff anyway though? unfortunately lol



how so? seems like a pretty normal interaction to me



Yeah I just don't understand this at all. What about it reads specifically potentially fake/forced?

I thought I managed to explain it in the post. Maybe the way it was so minimal, just few words. My impression was that Visor went for the minimal amount of words to make it look natural.

[pzelda]

I think everyone should full claim though

VT, quite obviously.

[nebjiamn]

vote: lissa

stett idk what you read that unpairs me with lissa day 1 but i cleared her pretty easily iirc lol

dont worry tho u got it right still