HmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
Well, I was thinking rask but he also claimed
I’d lean maple rn but I kinda wanna see what happens over the. Text few hours
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HmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
Well, I was thinking rask but he also claimed
I’d lean maple rn but I kinda wanna see what happens over the. Text few hours
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ladd
not worth thinking about now but if wisdom is real it could also mean a 3p Arso
Remember on day 4 or smth
if there’s no arso I agree it’s probly to distract a potential MD/tracker. The game is role heavy so I could see that
I made a post about waiting 24 hours earlier today and had always planned to claim with ~12 hours left if I don't feel healthy (or am in danger).Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
Wisdom claiming delayed me because I was not sure about my position in the thread tbh.
hadn't seen jan claim pr
noted
think wisdom/jan are literally never w/w because of the post syn made 'looking at wolf reads looking at this' about both jan/wisdom.
so either both are villa or only one is a wolf
but will keep in mind that my previous stuff with jan could have been him trying to get some sus as a role and i'll bear in mind on my reread.
(still personally read him as a wolf but i've been wrong before about jan!PR before XD )
Not possible for him to have protected sheepQuote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
? not sure what you misread here nglQuote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
@Vanta Black yes ive been fully tracking VH this game, it lets me construct retroactive VCs which helps me a lot
i think current vc is:
Maple (2) Gemma, Raskolnikov
Dolby (2) ColonelLubriderm, Maple
Raskolnikov (2) Enderwiggin, Nebjiamn
Nebjiamn (2) Insomnia, Ladd
Jan (1) Theknightsofneeee
Enderwiggin (1) Dolby
Gemma (1) Wisdom
Theknightsofneeee (1) Raskolnikov
Not voting (8) Arctic, Jan, dyachei, Vanta Black, Sunbae, Montmorency, Grr, Didistetter
sorry if i missed anything
I wish I have 2 votes :curtain: (unvoted knights after ISOing him)Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
Vote: ladd
I’m pondering it but whyQuote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
also thoughts on maple, sunbae, Gemm?
@didistetter bop states in the post you quoted he faked the neighborship fwiw
vote:montmorency
Something feels off today and I feel like there has to be one in rask Jan and LaddQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
Sunbae prob v, Gemma idk, manti lean v
Why does ther eneed to be one in me/jan/rask. We dont even really wolf read each other, i dont get where this is coming fromQuote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
Plz re read my eod with rask beimg confirmed villa in mind, i genuinely dont think i am hard to clear. Ik you can get there
Someone cliff notes me on updates please? This is a drive by but it sounds like we got claims
claims
wisdom- firefighter 2-shot
maple- some kind of PR+ now has a PGO 1-shot
jan- some kind of PR
rasko- 2 shot vig, killed sheep
ender- some kind of pr who targetted didi
ColonelLubriderm-VT
if i was going to kill in the claims i'd kill wisdom
i think rasko is always a villa.
PGO means if someone targets them they die right?
hmm ok gonna ponder over lunch ty
Did wisdom explain how being a firefighter made them know sheep was killed by town? i remember a post about that
i have like 6 or 7 posts left
it is very important someone confirms whether or not a PGO kills someone who targets them in the night
It has restrictions, but I can kill a player who targets me in the night once.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm
what are the restrictions pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Maple
5/6 left
I think game dynamics from yesterday imply it heavilyQuote:
Originally Posted by ladd
like which ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
cause rask is a confirmed villager and i think jan is likely to be villa as well so uh ya
I think those things too. That's why I'm voting you. You all have very different solves Iirc and I find that concerning since you're all very good at the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
But the way the three of you kept being brought up and dismissed d1 has me worried one of you is a wolf
vote: ladd
Jan was widely villa read d1 and i got almost no heat, rask is the only one who got heat and i defended themQuote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
So idk what u are talking about. Idr what rask/jan solves are but like i am sure people can have different solves? I dont get how that specifically is a concern
this argument from you seems super weak
well im pretty sure maple is a wolf
the wolf factional is carried so i doubt their is a villa role that makes another villa basically go 1-1 with the factional kill; i doubt a villa uses that type of thing on maple; i doubt a wolf uses that type of thing on a villa; and quite frankly question whether or not it even exists.
i mean, lets imagine there is a villa that makes it so if someone is NK'd they take a wolf with them; thats absolutely broken in this small of a game
Unrelated to that I kind of think sunbae might be a wolf; especially if ladd is a villa; and this is purely from a sense of wolves gotta be somewhere since i beleieve rasko claim and i kinda think jan is a villa.
maybe something like wisdom/maple/sunbae +1
dunno
saving rest of posts for eod votes;
I gave it to myself with my role, as i mentioned.
You got heat tooQuote:
Originally Posted by ladd
you could probably get me killed pretty easily bop. enough people have suspicions, im about to head out for the day, and i doubt id have any defenders willing to stick their neck out! plus hey, spooky woof it could be true this game!
in the event you do, game was fun but i definitely do think it was a one of for a good time and not an actual comeback. you people are lovely and i wish you well <3
after skimming and ponderin while enjoying my delicious wendys (ghost pepper saucy nugs and fries with a berry frosty for those interested) im pretty much at a similar place i was earlier. rask being v is nice, i was feeling better there after the mention of mixing me up with someone. think jan being a pr would make sense. not entirely sure on wisdom and enders but that feels like a problem for the future. just pick someone else in that bottom part of my list and pew pew
as for maple, idk gl figuring it out lmao
how spicy are those?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunbae
ill admit i was clowning on the whole 'saucy nuggs' thing before but then i tried them and they're pretty damn good
i did reread grr and took the ladd/insom notes into account and feel good there
reread gemma and feel whatever there but again, problem for a future day
knights still seemed towny to me
i was the same wayQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
id call them white people spicy where its got a kick but its not like omg
quite good tho
personally still think dya and benneh are villagers so shrug
berry frosty is good too, tho think chocolate is still the king
i could vote maple
today i feel like he's only been stuck on the inversed / role thing
there's no way all of our claims are legit btw, right?
not sure i have it in me to sit through this EoD so someone's gonna have to clutch up in my spot with a random vote hehe
yall are like, convinced convinced on arctic and didistetter and grr as town right?
i thought i could stay awake until eod but now i am not so sure, i'll follow along the thread but if i disappear is prolly cause i fell aslepp
i hate defending myself but since people arent doing the work i'll quote it for them
Here is my EoD:
^Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
was talking about syn, countering arctic argument that he had a wider world view here vs their wolf game
i'll quote the bad too - sheep pop ins and made a comment about consolidating that ringed hollow to me and reminded me of their last pop inQuote:
Originally Posted by ladd
there were the wagons atp:
Wagons:
Gemma (4) Ladd, Sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom, Insomnia
Theknightsofneeee (3) EnderWiggen, Gemma, Didistetter
Raskolnikov (3) Grr, ColonelLubriderm, Jan
Syn (2) Newcomb, dyachei
EnderWiggen (2) nebjiamn, dyachei
Jan (1) Theknightsofneeee
Sheepsaysmeep (1) Syn
ColonelLubriderm (1) Vanta Black
No vote: (4) Arctic, Sunbae, Montmorency, C0balt, Maple
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Originally Posted by ladd
now wagons are rask vs syn, I have absolutely no reason to descredit rask read on syn when if i am a wolf it's literally syn only way to save themselves
and i villa read syn counterwagon
this was literally answering to jan's post quoting rask villareading syn - again i have 0 reason to do itQuote:
Originally Posted by ladd
this is what pinged me about jan during eod and why i started d2 pushing themQuote:
Originally Posted by ladd
i think my mistake was not voting syn but genuinely there was no particular reason for it. if wagons were close at the end i probably would have but once i realized rask was safe i was cool being off wagon shrug.jpg
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yeah im gonna lock in knights as town with the new info on rask being confirmed
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yeah this has to be town tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Arctic
Vote: maple
ladd is unvoteable :/
for villa cred renewal, i was villa reading jan today and defending him and also ender
in case it was needed
i'd like to kill in benneh / maple today
any other lunch options?
manti somehow randing the only weird role of the game seems incredibly suspicious to me but they hardclaimed self resolvable and it's d2 of a 22 player game so idk if there is any point in lunching them today
if they dont actually confirm themselves tomorrow kill them tho
rask>jan>ender>maple=wisdom is my order of the people who have claimed from most likely real to least likely but with more info on the setup it should be easier to get it right
i thought dya was super likely a villager for meta/toan and some micro stuff (eod post about syn, post saying how they were the only villager voting for sheep is the type of anti tmi post they tend to not make as a wolf ime) but their push on me feels super weak reason wise
i am voting monty atm simply cause he can be with everyone and he is less villagery than vanta. willing to swap tho (if i dont fall asleep)
With rask being a villager, i think its v likely wolves either werent around for eod or had ~no presence. third option would be they bussed but it doesnt feel that way?
Isn't that the usual PGO? But sometimes they kill everyone who targets them, sometimes just one of them. It kinda seems more towny to mention it. But: I am skeptical of all the claim except the most vague one (some kinda PR)Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm
Yes on Stett and grrQuote:
Originally Posted by Sunbae
arctic could be a wolf in some worlds but I think he’s still likely town
hi, i might not have read every post, saw the Rask claim and the Wisdom claim and the Maple claim and the Jan claim I hope that was all. I don't think I can make EoD.
Echoing this exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
what up, reading back
I struggle with finding u as a villa usually but ngl from the people I kinda cant really sort at least I like ur reads most (like me is whatever but tinfoil on arctic is what i had today, and i liked ur take on sheep yesterday and the one on montecery too.Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
(don't ask me why im telling u this)
so honestly today a lot of stuff has been pushed I didnt really agree with and im not a fan.
sorry @MapleQuote:
Originally Posted by Maple
so just to clarify: you gave yourself the 10 of Swords which = 1 shot nerfed PGO with your own role, and then also someone else inverted you, which you then pretended to not know what means in response to me while then admitting you knew what it meant later
so: are you basically claiming PGO inventor who got inverted so you ended up giving the PGO to yourself?
if so, how is that self confirmable?
I mean, maybe they could be, but the game IS very role heavy and thus I’d expect wolves either have some fake claims or lots of roles will be pretty conditionalQuote:
Originally Posted by insomnia
either way idt there’s value in sorting it out today
for maple like if he is in any way not being able to self-resolve then kill him, no shenanigans, but other than that kinda waste of braincells to consider rn.
wisdoms claim looked indeed the worst.
oh isnt maple actually confirmable. i am a huge fan of that then.
I think the VC Stett provided is inaccurate, I think Bop went on Ender and isn't on me rn?
I haven't really read D2, but I'm sensing there has been a slew of claims. Can someone summarize/link them and the current tally while I prepare a post? I only skimmed Wisdom is a firefighter and Maple is a gun owner who shot someone (sheep?).
Rask has begun the process. But as I said it's not just the one post. Y'all were up and down treating each other's slots like a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
Here is one of the walls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
Some excerpts from how ladd interacted with dya, their lhf partner and first to be ousted (ladd was subsequently day-vigged if anyone's taking direction).
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dya - i havent been too hot in reading dya lately but i think the way they are making reads at their own pace and the SNARK everytime anyone dares to shade or wolf read them is >>>rand villa
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#1719 ladd defends dya from Visor SR: maybe if it was 2 years ago but their meta changed a ton
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#1736: In response to Renata suggesting that Visor and dya commenting on Taffy is partners ginning up a counterwagon to Visor: villagery post (but i disagree on dya, they look villagery in the exchange imo)
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#1764: In humoring Visor's requesst to talk about something other than Visor/Ender: lettuce talk super briefly (cause i gotta go and i am already late lol) about dya and boq
imo dya was very villagery last couple of pages, i feel the renata/HK pushes are the "hipster" pushes dya makes as a villager where they think they latch onto something and go for it despite what everyone else thinks
What do you want to call it? Hedging, balancing, deflecting, distancing? We need more eyes on that ladd-syn ISO for D1 this game, though I believe I've posted enough to chew on. Syn's leans list that swaps ladd for Hally while listing every other player, despite having just interacted with ladd, is especially disturbing to me.Quote:
#1769: for amy my only fear is dya villa reading them, maybe i should respect dya's read more. but besides that i think they have been wolfy (tho not excessively so) and they fit like a glove in an ender!wolf world
I am extremely sus of the idea that anything is self resolving and confirmable
its a flipless game my dudes lol
?Vote: Maple
which is why probably not all of the claims are legitQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
idk if there's 2 fake ones though or just 1
This also lends credence to wisdoms claim being weirdQuote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
idk, I feel like an arsonist with firefighter being in the game with no role flips is kinda bastard maybe?? The more I think about it that feels like way too much info to withhold from town
Although tbh I don't like how Ender handled EOD, offering fairly weak reasons to maintain his early-game vote on knights while shading the Syn CW and declining to comment on Gemma. But if Gemma is the one in my world I'm likeliest to want to swap out, then two, rather than one, of the redacted set - Jan/Wisdom/Ender - should be mafia.
Posts like these late in the day could fit with the modus of trying to skirt the business of the day while priming a scum POE further on.
Thus I'm at least 80% sure the game is solved within ladd-Gemma-Colonel-Jan/Ender/WisdomQuote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
My other leans:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I am a CONFIRMABLE ROLE
I can use a DAY ACTION which will give FEEDBACK at the start of night.
I am shocked that my very limited time this phase is being wasted on belaboring this point.
unlimited despo shots, people
Wisdom claims Strength, a 2-shot firefighter #1789
Jan claims village pr, role probably couldn’t be inverted #1851
Enderwiggin claims PR who targeted didistetter n1 #1880
Raskolnikov claims vig shot on sheep #1904
Maple claims a confirmable and self resolving role, claims to have given self the 10 of Swords which = 1 shot nerfed PGO, claims to have been inverted n1
#1876
@Montmorency
@Dolby missed that vote somehow, ill look for it
why does god keep giving me his most confirmable roles
I feel that people have danced around voting Wisdom. Let's get it started then
Wisdom
happy with any of Wisdom/Ender/Maple dying at this exact moment
Host gives their most confirmable roles to their funniest shitpostersQuote:
Originally Posted by Maple
Vote: Wisdom
lol
ok so like I'm gonna scattershot something here.
I think very furry: Gemma, Wisdom, ladd (maybe add dolby I dont really want to cause I have not really processed his posts but the ladd tr based on syn spew that didnt look clearing for ladd pinged me)
I think there is some kind of fur here: sunbae, benneh, dya, maple but hard to find as its defo not all 3 of sunbae benneh and dya and their reads on each other are often not bringing super clarity.
I think insomnia, didi is always pure.
Ender and Jan posted stuff today I village read.
colonel i v-read d1 as i am typing this i am getting a bit paranoid.
Um, Gemmas posts were tonally cool and all but the push against didistetter was extremely weird as didistetter is obvious town imo and she got pushed for pushing Raskol, and I also noted that dya was also pushing Raskol (and Ender, who i also believe is a villager?) so I'm not sure why the obvious town was pushed here. I dont know if Gemma is a player who is prone to wild paranoia but if they aren't that is a mega red flag.
Arctic also pushed a lotta things I somewhat disliked today but for him it might just been the disconnect and also maybe there were good reasons to clear him I just forgot. Agree with benneh that's tinfoil stuff.
Other players I just have no thoughts on rn. benneh's read on montecery seemed good I think?
wait so wtf does inverting a desperado do lol
does it mean you survive if you hit town and die if you hit maf?
rip if tru
but yeah thats confirmable enough
if true, good look for sunbae
rlly ih...
pls dont call me didi :/
apologies, i am aware just forgot.Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
I think if wisdom is a wolf there is zero cred to gain here today because I read rask is gonna shoot her anyway.
Monty's latest posts are good and towny
Ladds two votes being Monty and Maple don't feel good even though i still sus Maple.
Players Votes
Maple 4 (Gemma, Raskolnikov, insomnia, nebjiamn)
Raskolnikov 1 (EnderWiggin)
EnderWiggin 1 (ColonelLubriderm)
Gemma 1 (Wisdom)
Wisdom 1 (Dolby)
Dolby 1 (Maple)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
Ladd 1 (dyachei)
Montmorency 1 (Ladd)
believe this is correct
Wow, what is this inverted shit? They invented a new modifier? Dang.Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
I have no idea what that means. What happens if a PGO is inverted? Actually, reading again, Maple didn't reveal their PR, just that they were inverted and were gifted a PGO shot.Quote:
Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from kills that night, but all their actions will be blocked that night. Actions that would normally be unable to target this action's target will be able to target this action's target.
Before I judge any of these people must be lying, I need clarification on that, and whether it makes sense to assign Mafia such an inverter PR.
I would take maples claim as a promise to deliver something that actually clears them. as far as i can see they have not actually claimed what it exactly it is. So I would just delay this till tomorrow and if there is no delivery of anything clearing then I would not be impressed (and for me it would personally be a policy elimination then but I understand others are more considerate)
Is this something people disagree with? Has maple posted so wolfy it's a lock for you @insomnia
Momny dude, syn said hally instead of ladd because they used the list in the op to make the kist which had hally instead of me, i already told ya
I am falling asleep