It was obvious that was you XD
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It was obvious that was you XD
We were tossing up between you and Dorne, but were planning on blaming you for political reasons. We didn't want to needlessly antagonise Dorne, not when we had a neighbour who had just invaded with 25k troops we could pin it on instead.
Of course, though not to the characters. I was kinda hoping the strangler would not kick in instantly, let more of you drink it, but I guess it doesnt matter.Quote:
It was obvious that was you XD
Tbh I think that action would have allied everyone against the Lannisters XD
Not when I poisoned Doran and pinned it on Magaery's grandmother on turn 3. :grin:
I'll be honest, when I heard the news I almost declared war on the spot.
I half-intended to declare a southern alliance and march on Lannisport with our combined force.
No cigar, Tywin. Doran doesn't drink gifted wine. :yes:
Nope.That was the unexpected thing. The controversial thing was what the greyjoys probably wondered also what was that. Against our orders to remain upriver oldtown until the forces of Stannis and Renly would engage the Ironborn at Whispering sounds or arrive to Old Town.Our navy decided to peace meal attack them alone when we were just about to have superior odds against them. The whole plan was to lure the Ironborn into trying to stop Stannis from coming into oldtown. Next Stannis then fought them alone after our buts were already kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
Heh, Like I would try wine just after doing it to Magaery. Still, if it makes you feel any batter I was trying to get Renly not Magaery.Quote:
Joke's on you, Tywin. Doran doesn't drink gifted wine.
If your fleet wasn't led by some authoritative character could easily be reckless soldiers...
I love being the Ironborn haha. But a restart is fine with me. Just want to see this game continue! Things will go differently I think next time
Yeah, this time Joffrey will stay in his room until after eddard has been captured.
I knew it! I asked JHT whether there was any evidence that Margaery was the intended target, but that was just before he left so I didn't get an answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Will we necessarily have the same teams? I assume not, so things can happen quite different.
@Kagemusha
Did you use a character as admiral? Anyway, if you "missrolled" it can just happen, that your subjects do different then intended.
Im sure the former Master of Ships for the last Targareyn King would apply as somewhat capable fleet commander. Maybe name Redwyne says something to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
He could still have made a very bad roll (depending on the exact system).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Then I honestly don't know lol
But he still was a minor character I guess, maybe attacked just because he was confident...
Bottom line I don't see the host changing your orders, it was simply the game, I had very similar troubles...
What rolls have to do with conditions? Condition is for an order to be executed. Roll is for an outcome. Wouldnt you agree?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kival
Paxter Redwyne? Isn't he in his 70's during the war of five kings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Hence the need for a slight rejig of the system. A capable and experienced admiral, who knows his fleet is outclassed and has explicit orders from his Lord not to engage, shouldn't launch a suicide attack no matter what the dice roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kival
All the more reason for him to be cautious. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Well duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
What the hell did I ever do to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Not the man to be too reckless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Yeah, I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishmael
In that case you could order to attack the Lannisters and instead your forces would decide to go after Baratheons. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
If I killed you and successfully pinned it on Stannis half of your forces would have gone over to my side, including most of your fleet and Highgarden would refuse to work with old baldy. Nothing personal.Quote:
What the hell did I ever do to you?
Imo it all falls in the unexpected, afaik Redwyne doesn't have stats, other than maybe "adds X to Y of Mace Tyrell"...
LOL that's too much :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
You gave orders to engage, he simply didn't wait for some reason: the execution was different, but still "followed" the order...
Also maybe the Greyjoys sent some ships to delay Stannis, bad winds to get there or something that ruined your course of actions...
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha
If you have a betraying commander that could happen. Yes. But what happened is more a failure and not a betrayal.
I'd just like to interject and say that it isn't the fact that Dragonstone came out of that phase in poor shape that resulted in me asking for a do-over, rather the fact that Beskar had dropped from the game as a player in order to take over as game host. Heck, the outcome of Melisandre's actions for the second phase were pretty dire (to the point where she should have just stayed in bed for the duration, seriously), but I was prepared to take it in stride and continue as normal without complaint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
The problem for Dragonstone was that Beskie called the shots in terms of faction orders, had all the diplomatic ties and knew the lore better than the rest of his team put together; it didn't feel fair for the remainder of our team to have to cope with these disadvantages in addition to the fallout from the diplomacy/military choices he made for that turn, and so I suggested we revert back to the start of the phase.
I'd like to thank JHT for his input and particularly his efforts with my own results over the two phases (even the unsuccessful ones! :P); he perfectly encapsulated both my character and the way that her magic and influence worked, something that I was able to use to draw myself further into the game. I hope that your absence is not permanent JHT, you still have an awesome mafia concept to use. :3
You cant be serious.:P You are ready to make bold assumptions when you dont know the conditions.Mace Tyrell, Willas Tyrell, Randyll Tarly and Paxter Redwyne were all at Old Town with clear cut split of command for each, just to make sure no mishaps would happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
As we did not get an description of what exactly happen.I will not join you in making hypothesis about the unknown. Maybe next time we will have better luck, or maybe you are just referring that because the Tyrell characters must be so inferior to begin with.They should not be able to get anything done right? :P
Kage I think that your admiral did all that he was required to do. In our results post it says that instead of waiting to be enveloped in a pincer movement, my Iron Fleet instead sailed straight at you (I guess we had advance warning of Stannis) and took the fight to avoid being attacked on both sides until you were routed, then we turned on Stannis
No no no XD
House Tyrell was my third choice and still is :)
What I'm saying is that what differed was the execution, that happened to me both turns, it's how the game goes, otherwise it's all about coin tosses between two playable factions...
But you are right about the stats and that we can't be certain, but at the same time you are forgetting the influence of the enemy or whatever variables JHT put into it...
Edit: so in the end the Greyjoys attacked and Redwyne, as the good admiral that he is, was compelled to engage instead of being a sitting target...
Wait...Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
I have a fleet?