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according to the mr julius cesar titus labienus was the main responsable for that belgium confederation when he tryed to assassinate comius or whatever is name was

also according to gaivs ivlivs the belgians where germans keltoi and germano-keltoi tribes so it´s hard to make a confederacy of people who are still in the process of making a new culture and that have diferent backgrounds :no:

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Originally Posted by The General

I trust a certain Mr. Julius Caesar provided you with this information? <.< >.>

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The Belgae weren't a confederation.

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Now i want to know why choose Nervi as faction instead of another belgae tribs :help:

Sorry, but i want to add something:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier..._people-fr.svg
At the beginning, of the gallic war, this is the situation of the aedui's confederation. (aedui=éduens)
In red, the aedui's tris.
In light pink, the aedui's allied tribs
In orange, the client and in grey the enemies.
Aedui (oppidum: Bibrax)
Bituriges Cubes (oppidum: Avaricum)
Parisii (oppidum: Lutetia)
Sénons (oppidum: Agedincum)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ple-fr.svg.png

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Originally Posted by fougere

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Now i want to know why choose Nervi as faction instead of another belgae tribs :help:

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Well you'd have to ask the guy starting the poll. Bellovacae, Suessiones wouldn't be bad choices. However the Belgae weren't settled in modern day Belgium/holland/france yet.

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Originally Posted by fougere

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I'm sure you know this already, but some people have hinted he might've exaggerated the numbers... :rolleyes2:

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Originally Posted by fougere

Now i want to know why choose Nervi as faction instead of another belgae tribs :help:

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Because one has to be chosen, as it was with Lusotani, Getai, Sweboz, Casse and Aedui/Arverni. Most of these are representing an ethnicity, like Sweboz are the representative of Germanic tribes, Getai are of Dacian tribes, and so on...

Now, as to why Nervii would be the chosen people, you'll have to ask the poll maker. There are other good candidates, aye.

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Because one has to be chosen, as it was with Lusotani, Getai, Sweboz, Casse and Aedui/Arverni. Most of these are representing an ethnicity, like Sweboz are the representative of Germanic tribes, Getai are of Dacian tribes, and so on...

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For Lusotani, and Getai i don't know why, but for aedui and arverni, I think they were the strongest gallic factions (maybe the sequani were so strong too); the sweboz are the most known, du to Ariovistius; but don't know why you choose the casse and not the brigantes...

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Now, as to why Nervii would be the chosen people, you'll have to ask the poll maker. There are other good candidates, aye.

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Yes. My knowledge in the belgae tribs is limited. That's why I want someone to explain me how to choose beetwen all this belgae tribs...plz

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Originally Posted by fougere

For Lusotani, and Getai i don't know why, but for aedui and arverni, I think they were the strongest gallic factions (maybe the sequani were so strong too); the sweboz are the most known, du to Ariovistius; but don't know why you choose the casse and not the brigantes...


Yes. My knowledge in the belgae tribs is limited. That's why I want someone to explain me how to choose beetwen all this belgae tribs...plz

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Originally Posted by Moros

However the Belgae weren't settled in modern day Belgium/holland/france yet.

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However if a Belgae tribe would be chosen I imagine one of the more stronger would be picked. Bellovacae and the suessiones would be two of the leading tribes I believe.

And why should you be trusted?:inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Alsatia

And why should you be trusted?:inquisitive:

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Because I've read and I particpated in the debates on what the new EBII factions should be?

...says EB's master of disinformation. :clown:

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Originally Posted by Frontline1944

...says EB's master of disinformation. :clown:

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If I'm not to be trusted, then why are trusting my own written user title?

Oh, I never directly said that you aren't to be trusted, of course...

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Originally Posted by fougere

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Now i want to know why choose Nervi as faction instead of another belgae tribs :help:

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I chose the Nervii as they were considered a particularly agressive tribe and they might have had more of a germanic character (they reportedly believed they were of germanic origin although this comes from just after eb's time period) which would make them in my opinion a interesting faction to play.

They certainly aren't the only choice as the Bellovaci, Suessiones, Remi and Menapii are all just as good (if not better in some cases) candidates.


ps don't worry Moros i trust you:2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by bobbin

ps don't worry Moros i trust you:2thumbsup:

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You're going the trust 't3h master of disinformation'? :skull:

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Originally Posted by bobbin

I chose the Nervii as they were considered a particularly agressive tribe and they might have had more of a germanic character (they reportedly believed they were of germanic origin although this comes from just after eb's time period) which would make them in my opinion a interesting faction to play.

They certainly aren't the only choice as the Bellovaci, Suessiones, Remi and Menapii are all just as good (if not better in some cases) candidates.


ps don't worry Moros i trust you:2thumbsup:

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Weren't Nervii more occupied with themselves though? They were fierce warriors granted, but I believe they were not really bussy with the outside world.

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Originally Posted by Skullheadhq

You're going the trust 't3h master of disinformation'? :skull:

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Whachoo talkin' bout, Willis?

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Bellovaci, Suessiones, Remi and Menapii

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Suessiones were strong because they had many client's tribs. Moreover they had 4 oppida (Ratomagos, Iatinum, Suessionum and Viromandis).
Ps: I've just one questions: someone know if Tricasses were part of Senones or Lingones?

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Originally Posted by Moros

Weren't Nervii more occupied with themselves though? They were fierce warriors granted, but I believe they were not really bussy with the outside world.

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They were quite active during the Caesar's campaigns but i'm not sure about before that. On reflection the Suessiones would be a better choice for a Belgic faction being very active in belgium and the surrounding regions (going so far as raiding and settling in southern britian).

You keep talking of a Belgic faction but the Belgae on their own would be a faction!

That would be no more historically accurate than the "Gauls" of vanilla RTW. :thumbsdown:

or the iberians in the same game since there where at least 4 major groups in iberia (not counting the punic´s)

i defend the nervii cause they where strong and comio made them an amazing people altough after revisiting my sources their strenght grew after the romans had destroyed 60k troops of another belgic tribe wich i can´t remember in an island batle in the midle of a swamp so maybe those "fools" who lost 60k in the swamps instead of retreating to fight another day (they where more celtic and that was a celtic tradition to stick and fight i believe)

not sure about their name maybe someone could point them out to me :help:

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Originally Posted by bobbin

That would be no more historically accurate than the "Gauls" of vanilla RTW. :thumbsdown:

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Ofcourse not, the Belgae was a Confederation just like the Sweboz!

To quote Moros from this very thread

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Originally Posted by Moros

The Belgae weren't a confederation. They are a group of tribes who are alike in culture etc,...
There were confederations of Belgae tribes and the like, but the Belgae are not and have never been a single political entity.

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You would quote the Prince of Lies? :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Moros

Weren't Nervii more occupied with themselves though? They were fierce warriors granted, but I believe they were not really bussy with the outside world.

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Whachoo talkin' bout, Willis?

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Oh, sorry, didn't see it was you, Spreader of Truth

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Originally Posted by Darius

You would quote the Prince of Lies? :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Phalanx300

You keep talking of a Belgic faction but the Belgae on their own would be a faction!

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Err...nope. :sweatdrop:

We see right through your lies Moros. :clown: We've discovered the new faction! :whip:

hmmmmmm:dizzy2: I dont vote for anyone exept Armenia....:2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Phalanx300

We see right through your lies Moros. :clown: We've discovered the new faction! :whip:

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If it makes you happy, just keep telling yourself that.

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Originally Posted by Moros

If it makes you happy, just keep telling yourself that.

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New EB slogan, fellas: War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Moros is Truth. :clown:

Back on-topic: is there much information on Byzantion from the period before it was sacked by the Romans? It would be nice to have a faction with significant trading opportunities bordering the Black Sea.

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Originally Posted by ArmenianWarrior301

hmmmmmm:dizzy2: I dont vote for anyone exept Armenia....:2thumbsup:

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Voting for Armenia would be a bit unnecessary here... They can never be a possible new faction...

There already are a faction...