New SS 6.4 HS: preparations thread (2 turns per week)

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Originally Posted by sonnet

I wanted to take Venice.
But Core7-inside anticipated me.

Modifications are not sure, it'll depend on player choice and more importantly how players will fit in the schedule.
So lets say I take turks, chosing factions like Byzantines or koj will only be possible if player of those blocks are right before or after my time slot.
It's a possibility to offer players more choices since we don't know exactly how the map will turn out (imagine for instance Genoa and Venice gets annihilated or close to destruction, leaving the possibility to the player to choose the Sicily would be nice)

I'll take Moors-Sicily, although I don't fancy them.


Right this is the situation:
Block 1: England-Scotland- Emproment (time?)
Block 2: Norway-Denmark - Gaius Octavianus
Block 3: HRE-Poland - Tonno
Block 4: France-Aragon Jiub
Block 5: Portugal-Castille (and Aragon if player block 4 chooses France) :
Block 6: Moors-Sicily Sonnet
Block 7: Venice-Genoa : Core7-inside
Block 8: Hungary -ERE : Lord Luka
Block 9: TO-Lihuania (and whatever is not chosen between Novgorod and Kiev). Vipman
Block 10:Koj- Fatmids - dur3x
Block 11: Turks (& Byzantines if player block 8 chooses Hungary,& Koj-Egypt if player block 10 chooses Egypt/Koj) :
Block 12: Novgorod-Kiev : Makrell
Block 13: Mongols- Kwarezm

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When we going to see the map???

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Originally Posted by sonnet

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Right this is the situation:
Block 1: England-Scotland- Emproment (time?)
Block 2: Norway-Denmark - Gaius Octavianus
Block 3: HRE-Poland - Tonno
Block 4: France-Aragon Jiub
Block 5: Portugal-Castille (and Aragon if player block 4 chooses France) :
Block 6: Moors-Sicily Sonnet
Block 7: Venice-Genoa : Core7-inside
Block 8: Hungary -ERE : Lord Luka
Block 9: TO-Lihuania (and whatever is not chosen between Novgorod and Kiev). Vipman
Block 10:Koj- Fatmids - dur3x
Block 11: Turks (& Byzantines if player block 8 chooses Hungary,& Koj-Egypt if player block 10 chooses Egypt/Koj) :
Block 12: Novgorod-Kiev : Makrell
Block 13: Mongols- Kwarezm

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Why didn't you bold my name as well? :P

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Originally Posted by Vipman

Why didn't you bold my name as well? :P

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You must be an anticipated loser :P

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Originally Posted by yuonyuon

When we going to see the map???

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we need to choose the factions and give me the time frame.
This way I'll change the faction order in the descr-strat file accordingly.
Once that is done, I'll pass the files to Myth and he'll make the save.
Only when he produced the save we can see the map.

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Originally Posted by Vipman

Why didn't you bold my name as well? :P

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Your factions will die before turn 60 and it'll be the fastest elimination ever seen in the history of HSing :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by sonnet

we need to choose the factions and give me the time frame.
This way I'll change the faction order in the descr-strat file accordingly.
Once that is done, I'll pass the files to Myth and he'll make the save.
Only when he produced the save we can see the map.

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i already give you my time 18-24 +2 GM during the week or Sundays.

but next week i will be gone all week until ... actually i m available from 1 July . but i will find someone to sub my first one or two turns.

about the factions i still don t know . just put me on Castile and if will be more room i will rather chose the last block .. Persia . (but i think is dead)

ok after first 30 turns looks like Byzantines are ruling the world then France , Moors , HRE and Novgorod.

Venice , Castile, Kiev and baltics are loosing

Also Egypt is curshed by KOJ

Just a qucik question... do I need Kingdoms dlc for SS to work?

Ok lets see if we get everyones time's preferences.

Block 1: England-Scotland- Emproment (time?) [02:00-08:00 Time in London]
Block 2: Norway-Denmark - Gaius Octavianus [14:00-17:00 time in London, 16:00-19:00 time in Bucharest]
Block 3: HRE-Poland - Tonno
Block 4: France-Aragon Jiub [10:00-16:00 time in London, 12:00-18:00 time in Bucharest]
Block 5: Portugal-Castille (and Aragon if player block 4 chooses France) : Yuonyuon [16:00-22:00 time in London,18:00-24:00 time in Bucharest, no preference on days]
Block 6: Moors-Sicily Sonnet [06:00-12:00]
Block 7: Venice-Genoa : Core7-inside [07:00-13:00 time in London, 14:00-20:00 +7 gmt]
Block 8: Hungary -ERE : Lord Luka [16:00- 20:00 time in London, 17:00-21:00 time in Berlin/Rome/Paris Wednesday-Saturday]
Block 9: TO-Lihuania (and whatever is not chosen between Novgorod and Kiev). Vipman
Block 10:Koj- Fatmids - dur3x [15:00-20:00 time in London, 17:00-22:00 time in Bucharest]
Block 11: Turks (& Byzantines if player block 8 chooses Hungary,& Koj-Egypt if player block 10 chooses Egypt/Koj) :
Block 12: Novgorod-Kiev : Makrell [17:00- 21:00 Time in London, 18:00-22:00 time in Oslo, no preference on days]
Block 13: Mongols- Kwarezm-Cumans : Ebs [23:00-03:00 London, 00:00-04:00 Sofia, no preference for days ]

Yea Im read.. Im will busy till friday then i will have time.. I can play between 12:00-18:00 GMT+2(14:00-20:00 Sofia time) or after 23:00 GMT+2(24:00 Sofia time)

So Block 13 is for me?I see only Block 13 is free..

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Originally Posted by ebs

Yea Im read.. Im will busy till friday then i will have time.. I can play between 12:00-18:00 GMT+2(14:00-20:00 Sofia time) or after 23:00 GMT+2(24:00 Sofia time)

So Block 13 is for me?I see only Block 13 is free..

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Remember that we'll skip anyone who's late.
You can choose any faction you want.If you want a block already chosen by someone, we'll issue a drawing and the loser will get the block that's been left.

If you join, Yuonyuon already wrote that he'd like block 13.
In that case only block 5 (Castille-Portugal) and Block 11 (Turks) are totally free.
But again, you can choose any block you like. This way no one will be penalized by seeing the thread later than others.

I will take Castile since there will be most of the action.

i guess Auran will take Byzantines and we are done .

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Originally Posted by yuonyuon

I will take Castile since there will be most of the action.

i guess Auran will take Byzantines and we are done .

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Turks is what's left. But Auran can choose any faction (so even factions chosen by other players), if he likes and we'll make a drawing to decide who is getting that faction (the loser will get what's left).
I'm making this way to ensure no one is penalized by posting late in the thread, and give everyone the same opportunity of choice.

what drawings are you talking about??

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Originally Posted by yuonyuon

what dawing are talking about??

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a raffle, a lottery to be run at http://www.random.org/.
This way everyone ha sthe same chance as others to get his favorite faction.

I will be able to do my turn from 2PM to 2AM. (GMT + 7:00)(depends)

How add a human faction by console ?

PS: I did it, no problem now !

Auran can't join, so Mongols-Cumans-Kwarezm will become off limits.
EBS was offered choice between Turks or Moors-Sicily and opted for the last option.

The hours written on the left, are referred to the time in London (I refer to that because gmt changes during summer and
it would create confusion). On the right is the local time in your country


day 1:(Tuesday and Friday) [00:00-13:00] Venice-Milan Core7-inside [08:00-21:00, time in Bangkok]
[13:00-17:00] Norway-Denmark Gaius Octavianus [15:00-19:00, time in Bucharest]
[17:00-21:00] Novgorod-kiev Makrell [18:00-22:00, Time in Oslo ]
[21:00-02:00] Moors-Sicily EBS [23:00-05:00, time in Sofia]

day 2:(Wednesday and Saturday) [06:00-12:00] Turks Sonnet
[15:00-19:00] koJ-fatmid Dur3x [17:00-21:00, time in Bucharest]
[19:00-23:00] Castille-Port Yuonyuon [21:00-01:00, time in Bucharest]
[23:00-06:00] England-Scotland Emproment

day 3:(Thursday and Sunday) [06:00-10:00] HRE-Poland Tonno [07:00-11:00,time in Zagreb ]
[10:00-15:30] France- Aragon Jiub [12:00-18:00,time in Bucharest]
[16:00-19:30] ERE-Hungary Lord Luka [17:00-20:30,time in
[19:30-24:00] TO-Lithuania Vipman [21:30-01:00,time in Bucharest]

So for instance, just to make things as clear as possible,with the above schedule, Dur3x will have to play his turns
every week on Wednesday and Saturday, every week. Obviously his turn might become available earlier, and in that case it's up to him
to play it earlier (if he can) or play in his due time-slot.


Basically everyone got what he asked for (or extremely close to). If you see any mistake or room for improvement,pls let me know asap.
Unless there are unforeseen delays, I'll give within today the settings and the descr.strat adjusted to the above schedule, to Myth
and likely within tomorrow the save will be posted for everyone to see. Players will have to choose the faction they'd like to play with
within 24hrs possibly after the save (with all passwords cleared, so that everyone knows everything and the process is as transparent as possible)
If everything goes accordingly, I guess we may start officially on tuesday (although players might start playing earlier).

PS: to keep everything ordered I put the layout this way, but possibly Vipman will be the first to start,as his block should be among
the first to start.

Jiub !! I have missed you so much Jiub. <3

Second run , same thing , Byzantines rule the world.

What if we start with the turn 30?That is before Byzies become the most powerfull.

Just recieved a PM from Lord Luka about joining this HS. But I believe all the factions are taken, if not I'd like a place please :) P.S I like the idea of the decisive battle. Could be very interesting!

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Originally Posted by Lord Luka

What if we start with the turn 30?That is before Byzies become the most powerfull.

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after turn 10 Byzantines just explode. and Turks are defeated every time . . i guess we still have players that wan t to join

this block thing is great but after 60 turns the map is totally up side down , Venice is crap every time and Egypt too .

Then whoever creates the save should stop 2-3 times the auto-play and for example disband some byz armies, take away some money, and give money and units to the weak factions...

Byz will be fvcked up later, dont worry.
Please skip it for a long term. Maybe 100-200 turns. I love late era units :P.

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Originally Posted by yuonyuon

after turn 10 Byzantines just explode. and Turks are defeated every time . . i guess we still have players that wan t to join

this block thing is great but after 60 turns the map is totally up side down , Venice is crap every time and Egypt too .

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Problem is that I gave too many elite units to KoJ and Byzantines (like I mentioned some post above) in order to have a balanced map, as otherwise they tend to disappear (and then we;'d have a too big Hungary or Fatmids and Turks)
Now I'm reducing them a bit (I removed 3-4 elite units to each of them).

Try those files:
https://www.mediafire.com/?t9yb7dmjwf63x6o

This is the save with those settings (you need to turn Venice to AI )
https://www.mediafire.com/?qt8nm1bs6zafj3u

Run 60 turns and make a save, posting the map and factions strength
Then keep going up to turn 80 and do the same

You can mod start of diplomacy section , in this way Byzantines will be friend with his neighbors and survive . a 0.60 + means that they very likely to form alliance ,

i will run another 60 with your setings

This is the new result with the new settings.

This is pretty solid (yea well, Turks), only thing is that Jiub would be forced to pick Aragon. And I am a bit concerned for England.

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Originally Posted by Tonno

This is pretty solid (yea well, Turks), only thing is that Jiub would be forced to pick Aragon. And I am a bit concerned for England.

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Not really, Aragon is still weaker than France, even now. France, as beaten up as it is, is stronger then Aragon.