how is it punishing it would be no diffrent if they were born in their own country because we would send them BACK.
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how is it punishing it would be no diffrent if they were born in their own country because we would send them BACK.
Its not even close.Quote:
Now if you go nitpicking, sure the wording of the law is not the same: I doubt you can find any law being the same in any other country to the semicolon.
OK ours is just replace French With AmericanQuote:
The requirement are to become French if born in France are:
- born in France
But thats it for us . None of this.
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- need to 18, or 13 if parents ask for you earlier. It's either automatic at 18 or upon request at 13 if asked by parents.
- live in France at 18 (or later), when getting the citizenship.
- has lived in France for 5 years
Not even close... ?
You mean being 18 is really a tough requirement to meet? How is that a problem, if at all?
Between 0 and 18, even if you're not a citizen (yet) you have some kind of specific Id card allowing you to be in the country. So it's not even illegal to stay in France... Although it might be for your parents. Which, I believe, is also the situation in the US.
That also means that "staying 5 years in the country" is, overall, a rather easy requirement to meet.
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Louis,
You just dont get it. Born in the US your entitled to US citizenship live there or not. If the mother of my child snuck into France gave birth and them snuck back out would our child be entitled to French citizenship? Would you give this child all the rights of a citizen from birth?
Yes, and you clearly don't like latinos..... Don't see any reason to comment on that though...Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
Let's hope so, since, if you got your will, soon she would have to do so to get a western citizenship....... ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
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Let's hope so, since, if you got your will, soon she would have to do so to get a western citizenship..
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Everythings a joke to you and usually not funny. This time I cant even make any sense of it.
I agree. It's not funny to revoke innocent childrens citizenships. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Well, if the child was Born in Las Vegas, then went back to Mexico, I can understand the wrath of anti-immigrationist if once adult, the guy/gal says "Hey, I'm American".Quote:
Originally Posted by bmolsson
If he was born in Las Vegas, grew up here, was taught American lessons, learned the local language, local customs, worked here, why would he NOT be American?????
Me thinks the french law should come back to the request part(the one that does not want to be french shall not be), but I'm otherwise very pleased with it. The child does not pay for its parents errors. And France does fulfill its role of cultural leadership in the world by providing education for any children on its soil - be it legal or illegal. Is USA's ambition to be a cultural leader & a lighthouse in the world?
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Originally Posted by bmolsson
I don't care if you are white, black, oriental, latino, what ever. If you are going to move here do it the right way get green card.
And we aren't punishing the children because it would be just like they were born in their own country.
The children we are talking about are not moving over there. They are BORN there. Big difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
But they are NOT born in any other country than US and you ARE revoking their right to get their US citizenship, hence they are punished for something that can't help or change.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
The parents sneak here illegally to make their kids americans. And many times are allowed to stay because their kid is here. Many times they do this just to live here and don't care about the kid.
And how can that be the kids fault ???Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
So this is how the world most powerful nation on earth should treat new born innocent children ?? :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
Without a doubt if their parents are breaking the law by being here. How come your not crusading for your country to adopt this law. Hell why do we want to punish any children for the mistakes of their parents. Let them make the kids citizens of any country they like. If I were in England when my son was born I wouldnt expect him to be a British citizen. Its your parents and where their from or should be that determines your nationality.Quote:
So this is how the world most powerful nation on earth should treat new born innocent children ??
I am, but they don't want to listen. They are insensitive and imperialistic with no regards to innocent lives. :furious3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
No it's not. It's the duty of you as a citizen to protect innocent children from prosecution, abortion and deportation. Their rights should be protected at any cost....... :charge:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
I was born in Fiji,
Have New Zealand and Australian citizenship.
And have the right to apply for abode in Britain.
My wife has Taiwan and Australian citizenship.
So which country should my child have citzenship of?
Thats what Im doing for US children. Look if your mother is a Mexican with no other citizenship and your father is a Mexican with no other citizenship and you have a child that child should be Mexican not what ever country the mother could make it to before it was born. As for deportation tell that to Elio Gonzales.I still have no idea what rights your speaking of. The right to illegaly sneak into the US. Sounds like a fly planting its parasitic egg inside a host.Quote:
No it's not. It's the duty of you as a citizen to protect innocent children from prosecution, abortion and deportation. Their rights should be protected at any cost...
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Originally Posted by Papewaio
Neverland ? ~:grouphug:
Is this how you see a child ? :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
So why can't the parent abort it's tool when it feels for it then ?? ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube