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I don't believe you. Although, had you asked permission, I think it wouldve been the slave girl orgy that would've got you turned down.... Public displays of indecency and slavery are tough sells to most folks, being illegal and whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by English assassin
Me either.Quote:
Originally Posted by English assassin
Why, last year the local council wouldn't even let me roast a goat and have an orgy with 20 syrian slave girls, citing some nonsense about planning controls.
I don't believe you.
Well, the advertising is really an aside... I went on a rant earlier, and that came up. (It is on page two.)
Maybe he lives in Nevada. ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Its pretty funny as you sound like a christain fundementalist in part of that rant where your complaining about the comericization of christmas. Most christains have the same problem with it nowdays. Chritmas is about the birth of Christ and new hope for the world not goinfg out and buying people presents, At least thats the true meaning of christmas thats getting lost in all of this.Quote:
Well, the advertising is really an aside... I went on a rant earlier, and that came up. (It is on page two.)
I really enjoyed "Polar Express", which I watched recently.
Ho Ho Ho
"mongoose, I'm guessing you are jewish, but what religion are you?"
Not quite sure. probably Atheist, but not the kind that's bothered by decorations...:san_wink:
I agree on the advertising. Though i don't see how others being caught up in the gift giving part should subtract form your enjoyment of the holiday.
ok, so its settled, lets blow up walmart and Kmart and any other marts we find. oh and 1 more ting, why take santa off coca-cola? i don't belive in him but is still a kind and familiar part of my world, but now the freakin polar bears are invading.
And here's the extra-funny thing -- I am a Christian, and according to you you aren't. And yet you're the one going on about a "secular attack" on Christmas and Christiantiy. And you don't even have the nerve to take on all of the pagan elements that have been tacked on to Christmas over the centuries. Do you really believe half the stuff you say, G, or is it all for the sake of sounding like an idealogue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
There is no war on Christmas. There's just the usual scrimmage of misguided folks with odd ideas. That's America, folks. Some ideas get tried on for a while, and usually the worst ones get discarded. "War" on Christmas, indeed. Oh, you mean a few townships have gone overboard on the PC wagon and have done stupid things like banning Christmas carols from the school chorus? Well, sounds like a war to me.
Dear lord, you would think the religious right would have something more substantive to get frothy about.
Do you even bother to read what I post?Quote:
And here's the extra-funny thing -- I am a Christian, and according to you you aren't. And yet you're the one going on about a "secular attack" on Christmas and Christiantiy. And you don't even have the nerve to take on all of the pagan elements that have been tacked on to Christmas over the centuries. Do you really believe half the stuff you say, G, or is it all for the sake of sounding like an idealogue?
What was this I said then
Or how about thisQuote:
Christmas is about the birth of Christ and new hope for the world not going out and buying people presents, At least thats the true meaning of christmas thats getting lost in all of this
And if your speaking of an idealogue I suggest you look in the mirror. Im no religous fanaticQuote:
The avertising hasnt really anything to do wth christmas but profits. Most people enjoy the lights and decorations. The advertising is another matter and theirs nothing christain about it
Lemur's post sums it up for me. I don't understand how people get worked up over this stuff.
Oh, go smoke a joint, all of you.
Its censorship and it violates the 1st amendment.Quote:
Lemur's post sums it up for me. I don't understand how people get worked up over this stuff.
Gawain, you attacked the commercialism of Christmas, that's true, but you must know that most of the symbolism Americans associate with Christmas is pagan, or straight-up invented. That's one of the reasons that various puritanical sects throughout history have banned Christmas. Far more successfully (in their setting) than the ACLU.
Anyway, here's a former Fox News Channel producer ruminating on this made-to-order "war": (Linky.)
It’s no surprise, of course, that this phony call to arms, this “Christmas (ergo, Christians) Under Attack” hysteria, emanates from the bowels of Fox News Channel. The network is, after all, ground zero in the culture wars that polarize so much of America these days. Make no mistake about it: Fox is on a mission. Its slogans say, “Fair and Balanced” and “We Report, You Decide.” But in the six years that I worked there, what I heard most from Fox management were mission statements – about turning things around, taking news back from the liberals, and giving “middle America” a voice long denied it by the “east coast media elite.”
[snip]
But what really separates Fox from the competition is its unabashed use of religion as a divisive weapon. Common sense -- and common courtesy -- have long dictated that personal religious beliefs be kept out of news reporting unless the story at hand involves religion. But on Fox, it’s not uncommon for an anchor to raise the issue of a guest’s religion, or lack thereof, a’ propos of nothing.
They're selling "us versus them" religious hatred, Gawain. And the way you post, you sure make it sound like you're buying.
Sure i do. Santa Claus, Christmas trees and the like have nothing to do with a christain christmas.Quote:
Gawain, you attacked the commercialism of Christmas, that's true, but you must know that most of the symbolism Americans associate with Christmas is pagan, or straight-up invented
Now this guy wouldnt have an axe to grind would he?Quote:
Anyway, here's a former Fox News Channel producer ruminating on this made-to-order "war": (Linky.)
It’s no surprise, of course, that this phony call to arms, this “Christmas (ergo, Christians) Under Attack” hysteria, emanates from the bowels of Fox News Channel. The network is, after all, ground zero in the culture wars that polarize so much of America these days. Make no mistake about it: Fox is on a mission. Its slogans say, “Fair and Balanced” and “We Report, You Decide.” But in the six years that I worked there, what I heard most from Fox management were mission statements – about turning things around, taking news back from the liberals, and giving “middle America” a voice long denied it by the “east coast media elite.”
[snip]
But what really separates Fox from the competition is its unabashed use of religion as a divisive weapon. Common sense -- and common courtesy -- have long dictated that personal religious beliefs be kept out of news reporting unless the story at hand involves religion. But on Fox, it’s not uncommon for an anchor to raise the issue of a guest’s religion, or lack thereof, a’ propos of nothing.
I go more by what I read here and yes it is an us versus them thing. I think hatred is a bit too strong a word here though my feelings on the ACLU approach that emotion.Quote:
They're selling "us versus them" religious hatred, Gawain. And the way you post, you sure make it sound like you're buying.
Hey whats up with all the stinking christmas decorations aroud here lately? Or are these holiday decorations?
Careful with that axe, Gawain...
Help! Help! I'm having a cardiac arrest! :san_laugh:
If you'd bothered to read the link, you'd know he was a she, and that she worked as a producer at Fox for years. Six years, I believe. She's allowed to have an opinion, and a rather more empirically informed one than your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Wow. Ecce homo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
And let's ignore the fact that "holiday" has an explicitly religious meaning:
Holiday: O.E. haligdæg, from halig "holy" + dæg "day;" in 14c. meaning both "religious festival" and "day of recreation."
War Update:
Apparently this whole silliness about the War on Christmas has something to do with promoting a Fox acnhor's book, as well. Amazing what a little Google searching will turn up:
Fox News Xmas War Snore: Nobody's Buying It
John Gibson's book publisher must have thought he'd died and gone to heaven. The Fox News anchor, out peddling The War on Christmas, not only got to plug the book on his weekday program, The Big Show, but Fox News producers generously booked Gibson on an array of other shows, pounding the idea that liberal secularists were out to kill Christmas.
According to Media Matters for America's tally, Fox News has aired nearly 60 separate segments on the Christ-hating craze this season. For Gibson's publisher it's a dream come true; non-stop televised publicity that reaches the target audience of cranky conservatives who have shown again and again their eager willingness to send partisan books rocketing up the best-sellers list. Talk about sitting back and counting the money, right?
Wrong. Despite an avalanche of mentions on Fox News, The War on Christmas continues to do disappointing business. It's nowhere near breaking through the New York Times best-seller's list. It's not even included on USA Today's expanded list of the top 150 best selling books. In fact, according to Amazon.com's sales rankings, The War on Christmas is stuck in the 200's; No. 286 to be specific. The book has sold approximately 30,000 copies since hitting book store shelves nearly two months ago. That'd be decent business for a first-time non-fiction writer. But for a Fox News anchor whose employer won't stop plugging the title, that sales total is middling at best, which only confirms how manufactured Fox News' crusade is -- even its loyal, Red State viewers aren't buying it.
UPDATE: War's woes continue. Today the book slides down to No. 364 at Amazon. (Thanks hapkidokid .)
I did but didnt notice it was a her. Can you tell me why she no longer works there?Quote:
If you'd bothered to read the link, you'd know he was a she, and that she worked as a producer at Fox for years. Six years, I believe. She's allowed to have an opinion, and a rather more empirically informed one than your own.
Yes and that will have to be the next thing to go. We cant go around celibrating Holy days any longer now can we?Quote:
And let's ignore the fact that "holiday" has an explicitly religious meaning:
Well theres a leftwing organization of there ever was one.Quote:
According to Media Matters for America's tally
Ill give you its not really a war on christmas. Its more of a slow death. They kill it off a little more each year.
So by your reasoning, ex-employees of a managerial position are inherently untrustworthy, because they either left or were fired, and are therefore untrustworthy? Couldn't you put a little more effort into Swift Boating somebody whose gender you hadn't noticed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Yes, I certainly wouldn't trust them to count the number of segments aired by a news channel. I mean, their special liberal glasses would cloud over any ability to count. Everybody knows that liberalism is synonomous with illiteracy and innumeracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Jumpin' Jehosephat, G, can you do anything besides mud-sling against sources, even for the most innocuous facts? Are you capable of responding in a substantive way?
Then what's the point of the hysterial rhetoric? What's the point of the Fox News heavy breathing? Are you willing to concede that this entire "war" business is nothing more than a flavorful hunk of red meat for the red voters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Why does it matter to you? Good riddance, I say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
It's funny how much "freedom of speech" appears to be a relative subject for certain people...IT'S ABSOLUTE, even if you like it or not.
The sick part of this is that in the future I can see my son getting in trouble in school because he told someone merry christmas. I can also see my self raising hell about it. I never thought I would think about sending a child to a private school, until now.
A few years ago I was working at a Inn over nights. There was a Rabbi how would get in late at night and sit and talk with me before going to bed. Around the holidays he wished me a merry christmas, because he knew I was catholic. Now if someone from a different faith can wish me a merry chistmas what the hell is wrong with the rest of the US. Would I have been insulted if he wished me a happy hanunkkah? NO! Why would I? Its a nice gesture, not an attack on your beliefs. All these people who don't what chistmas or other religous holiday stuff around were most likely spoiled little brats that one christmas got coal in there stockings because there parents finally grew a pair and put there foot down. They need to go out a buy them selfs the train set they didn't get and leave the rest of us the hell alone!
Actually, the older I get, the less Christmas seems to be about the presents. sure they're a nice gesture, but I just enjoy other people's company. I'll still celebrate Christmas until the day I die, even if I am agnostic. Theres no harm in it. Unless the Soviets really did win the Cold War!:san_laugh:
Ok Port, & brandy do taste good after the first glass, I still can't get used to single malts though, (I have tried...Alot).Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorba
Does that help?
Oh & Merry Christmas from all here at SuperSaverSantaLand :san_cheesy:
EA: almost got me thinking about converting.
Questions:
1. Are Syrian slave girls available to everybody or just thunder god worshippers?
1a. Are they all shaven (everywhere)?
1b. Are they greased up?
1c. Are they nubile?
2. Roast goat, is this a must or can you have a roast lamb instead?
2a. What are pagan condiment selections like for this celebration?
3. Do I have to become a hippy?
war on christmas, sounds like another 'Political Correctness gone mad' story, christmas is more of a national holiday than a religious one now, most of the cards decorations etc don't even show religious figures, its all cartoon reigndeer and holly.
Its interesting but you often find that the people who try and implement such PC measures don't actually listen to the people who they think will be offended, who usually don't mind.
1 They are available at all good slave markets. They AREN'T cheap but they ARE worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
1a, usually, 1b naturally (dunno why they call it extra virgin oil though) 1c you bet.
2 Roast goat is traditional, although you may roast any animal your neighbour owns, provide you have killed him and stolen it. Condiments= beer
3 Absolutely not. Whoever saw a hippy with a thunderbolt? You are thinking of those fertility deities.
can i join, i worship Saturn, Tyr, Set, and Baal as best i can.:san_laugh:
i don't know why people get worked up about holidays, even religions, if anything i'd call this time of year simply JOY cause everyone is happy unless they have some stupid BS like dis going on.