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why not watch the film end do they start kissing each other after the battle like the sacred band would have~:pat:
i take that back that was a good clip. i noticed that the pikes are represented as shorter than most people state so they can be manipulated a lot better. and the badwar was impressive but i was hoping that instead of pistoliers they might have sent in uber heavy cavalry so i could watch them get owned by lowly pikemen.
Some people would like to watch the whole movie before knowing how it ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad cat mech
chill dude
Speaking of rolling under the pike hedge, I'd appreciate a spear wall formation that doesn't make pikemen useless when attacking or defending against an enemy unit lower down on a slope.
some pike need to have offensive capabilities in the game, swiss pike used to charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by diablodelmar
in that movie clip you will see the pike army advancing on each other it was impressive
I don't know about vanilla but if you take away their swords so that they just use their pikes, pikemen do grind down enemy units pretty effectively if you let the enemy charge you first and then take them out of guard mode.
They fail tottally in vanillia, the troubl is they are a bit quick at their meat grinding trick without Swords, I don't want the meat today, I want it at the start of next week :laugh4:.Quote:
I don't know about vanilla but if you take away their swords so that they just use their pikes, pikemen do grind down enemy units pretty effectively if you let the enemy charge you first and then take them out of guard mode.
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Originally Posted by Furious Mental
We were talking about that earlier in the thread. If you take away the swords from pikemen, then they become way way way too powerful. They lose their vulnerabilities from flank and rear attacks and need not maintain a rigid formation. In essence, they are no longer pikemen. They become a super-human pokey mass of death dealing sticks, much to the detriment of game balance, but to the amusement of all.
I don't see what the problem is. They don't seem overpowered when I use them. And pikemen are should be able to point their pikes at enemies attacking from any direction. That's the whole idea of a pike square.
its funny in the vanilla the ai seems to be awfully good at keeping its pikes in action. not quite sure what is going on there. but a push through with infantry and then an attack will decimate them.
that push through has got to be fixed. sheeesh!