I would assume so....if you've seen the elephant cannoneers the Timurids field in the crap that is vanilla M2:TW, you would get the reference.
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I would assume so....if you've seen the elephant cannoneers the Timurids field in the crap that is vanilla M2:TW, you would get the reference.
I think they may of existed, afterall AS did build some flunky grand items, look at their monstrous ships. Two Nellies bolted together into an artill platform is what I would expect from AS, something of a grand spectacle and possible terror weapon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsiuv
Going back to the best armies, and my fondness for AS, I want to list the ideal army I build and get peoples feed back on it, although a point from my own perspective is the cost of this army is not relevant, as by the time I can build it, I can support it, 3 of em in fact.
1 General
1 Companion cav(sorry can't spell the proper name).
2 Kataphractoi cav
1 Horse archer(whichever has the best overall stats)
1 Armoured Nellie(used very carefully, a real nut buster and quite easy to use, if skirmishes are driven off, and used during the height of the melee)
3 Silver shield Sarrisa pike brigades
3 Medium Sarrisa pike brigades(they begin with P, sorry I can't remember the spelling)
1 Thoratikai Agyraspidai
1 Elite spear unit(full bronze armour, can't remember the name)
2 Thoratikai
2 Thracian Peltast mercs
2 Syrian Archers
It is supposed to be semi realistic in terms of a mixed force, and not all elite, ie; 6 units of Thoratikai Agyraspidai and 6 Silver shield pikes. Although tougher troops are used, like the 2 Thoratikai, as part of the flank forces.
When landing in Italy the Romans spammed many decent armies, the above army on hard setting chewed through them nicely, and because of it's nature, casualties were kept light.
I also find the above army to be good against a wide range of forces.
I just dont understand how this can be a lengthy conversation. Clearly AS has the best army :laugh4:
Theres mention of Baktria having the widest variety, but I have to break the news to you Baktrian fans. AS has all those units + heavy phalanx + the battle winning all encompassing best unit in the game..
Thorakitai Argyraspidai
Walking tanks. Earthshakers.
Clearly no other unit is superior 1 on 1 save the Iberian foot tanks, but i'll gladly trade 3 defense to have access to cataphracts, ellies, heavy phalanx.. etc.
On top of their stats, they get javelins AND a spear, which atm has no penalty vs infantry in the RTW engine + a BONUS vs cavalry?? sign me up for a full stack pls-kk-thnx.
Thorakitai Argyraspidai arent imitation legionnares, legionnares are imitation Thorakitai Argyraspidai !
Okay, TA kick some serious ass, but there´s one unit AS hasnt access to (at least not through factional MICs): Armoured horse archers.
´Nuff said ~D
Yes but are they a useful advantage, how do people use them effectively?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bavarian Barbarian
when I way up the pros and cons over the best light HA, they just seem to cost more.
Ha! :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bavarian Barbarian
Yes and what is the effect of arrows on TA?? Oh that's right none whatsoever!
:p
Cheers...
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Originally Posted by mAIOR
Hate it say it, mate.......you´re right. :stwshame:
Did a quick CB (med, no chevrons/upgrades, steppe), the TA suffered a total of 7 losses due to arrows, 26 due to charges. My baktrian HA routed with 21 men left.
Replayed the setup with the parthian heavy HAs out of curiosity, 13 losses/arrows, 50 losses/charge ~D