So the reason to vote shlin28 is "a hunch".Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Why Rythmic and Sarathos? And why are they more suspicious then Mithrandir?
Also hunches? Are you from Paris perhaps?
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So the reason to vote shlin28 is "a hunch".Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Why Rythmic and Sarathos? And why are they more suspicious then Mithrandir?
Also hunches? Are you from Paris perhaps?
I'm not sure pever and W&F stories add up either. Strikes me they aren't really townies until they lynch the other one--until then I bet they'd be willing to ally with the mafia.
Surely that point emphasis had nothing to do with your lawyer background. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Also, I think Mithrandir is innocent. You can cry "WIFOM" all night until the cows come home, but I just can't see a mafioso acting like that.
Yes, and let's ignore your "cases" against Rythmic and Sarathos...Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Care to explain to us why they are so high on your suspects list?
(Does somebody have an "alive" list?)
They're not. It's process of elimination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
The alive list is as follows:
shlin28
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
pevergreen
Rythmic
Sarathos
woad&fangs
Tratorix
Mithrandir
Cross Glenn and Tratorix off because they're inactive. Cross pever and woad off because they're Captains*.
This leaves:
shlin28
GeneralHankerchief
Rythmic
Sarathos
Mithrandir
Now, I'm off the list because I'm a townie. I know there's no way of proving it to you until the game's over, but for purposes of discussion we'll continue down this path. That leaves us with four. I think Mithrandir's innocent and I think shlin's guilty. That's how I ended up with Rythmic and Sarathos in 2nd and 3rd places.
*There is a chance that pever and woad could be lying, especially after the last couple of rounds where they haven't voted each other. Now, this may be possibly in hopes that someone will kill their counterpart off. Of course, there's always the chance that they could have claimed so we'd back off their trail, but this is highly unlikely and if it is the truth, then they've pulled off a brilliant deception and deserve to win the game.
Funny, when shlin28 does that (less eloquently then you, I'll grant you that), you talk about a list coming out of nowhere :inquisitive:
Anyway, instead of just working down your list of 4 suspects, don't you think it's better to keep discussion going and to force everybody to talk?
Saying "here's the list, let's lynch in that order" kinda kills discussion, doesn't it?
So, what do you think of Rythmic and Sarathos, regardless of the process of elimination? And I don't quite agree with your assumption of Mith's innocence because of his weird behaviour.
Because as far as I can recall, it's uncharacteristic of him. If someone can find me evidence to the contrary (when he was innocent, preferably in a smaller game like this one) then I shall move my vote elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
I just gave people something to discuss with my last post. They can agree with it; disagree with it; say someone should be farther up/farther down, etc. Whether they do anything with this prodding is up to them.Quote:
Anyway, instead of just working down your list of 4 suspects, don't you think it's better to keep discussion going and to force everybody to talk?
Saying "here's the list, let's lynch in that order" kinda kills discussion, doesn't it?
I think they're a bit too quiet, but otherwise fine. Sarathos seemed like he wasn't paying attention when he briefly came alive last round; there were three kills that round so I doubt it's him. Rythmic would be more likely to be scum.Quote:
So, what do you think of Rythmic and Sarathos, regardless of the process of elimination? And I don't quite agree with your assumption of Mith's innocence because of his weird behaviour.
When did you first post (in a post that hasn't been edited after this game started :grin:) a list and based your vote on the process of elimination?
I probably haven't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
But then again, I'm usually not alive at this point in the game either, and if I am there's somebody else directing things. I'm more of a "support townie" ; taking charge of things when I'm scum is more my forte.
-edit- And I'm taking the lead now because nobody else is and this game deserves better.
I think if we're at a loss (doesn't seem to be real evidince on shlin or sarathos) we ought to vote out W&F, since he and pever are acting anti town atm.
And I do vote based on gut feelings a lot.
Mithrandir and Shlin. I'm pretty confident that at least one of them is mafia. Mithrandirs behaviour seems consistent with his style in other games, but it is a style that can be used as a facade to hide bad intentions.
Shlin does seem more "listy" then usual. "listing" is another style which is easy to hide behind.
I think you made a typo. Surely instead of "Shlin" you meant Sarathos, seeing as you're voting for him...Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
Is GH listy or is he more hunchy?Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
And what about Sarathos? Is he voicy?
u guys r dorky. :laugh:
If anyone doesnt believe that I'm the captain, I can post the pm log between me and the host asking if i can get the name of the other captain.
Sarathos is the best lynch for today.
Now back to my schoolwork :no:
They may be anti-town, but they're live bodies that the scum need to kill in order to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
So... who is the BAd and who the Ugly? Sasaki the Bad, GH the Ugly? or viceversa?
I am voicy, now that I have time to pay proper attention to this game.
Many things have happened since I last posted and I do apologise for my absence. I put the .Org on high priority but my education does rank a little higher, I have to study so I may continue to participate on the .Org.
A few things I must get straight:
1.Quote:
Originally Posted by peverpink
My only question, why? There is really no reason for me to be lynched apart from the fact that I am semi-lurker but it is explainable and rather unavoidable. You however, have made no attempt at giving a reason and claim to be doing school work yourself, perhaps you need to be lynched?Quote:
Originally Posted by peverpink
Also, you automatically assume you are safe because you have claimed you are the Union Captain. I am starting to doubt that because you said to prove it you will post a pm log. Now normally that would be fine, but you are asking for the other Captain's names which completely defeats the purpose of the game as your victory condition is to get him killed. You are a seasoned mafia player so why on earth would you even ask that...?
Vote:Peverpink
2.Now I consider myself a very junior mafia player in comparison to many other players here but that has to be the biggest bandwagon I have ever seen. You voted me beause Mithrandir and Pever voted me. Fair enough that Mithrandir used Random.org but Pever is just being himself and hasn't even given a reason for voting me yet you seemed to be fully convinced. No one has 'told' you to do anything yet you still vote, when the two other voters have next to no reason, which is very scummy. You bandwagon which is extra scummy and to ice things off, you are the third on that very bandwagon, that = you x scummy^2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woads&Fangs
Just a question to Myrddraal, is there going to be WOGing in this game or not?
Originally neither myself or W&F were given each others names.
Think about it, how am I meant to make the town lynch the opposite captain, if I dont know who that is?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
There you go.
Please, tell us, how did you and w&f find each other?
There you go. Now lynch Sarathos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
The problem is, Myrddraal can't confirm that he sent you that pm, since that would confirm your role and I wouldn't put it behind you to fake it. Also, your "role pm" is just an exact copy from what is available in the OP.
But all in all, your role hasn't been counterclaimed thus far and I don't believe Myrddraal will tell the mafia who they have killed (if the captains would have been killed, they wouldn't be allowed to counterclaim, because of the no reveal after dead rule), so giving you guys the benefit of the doubt for at least a couple of rounds seems reasonable.
edited on request of host.
I revealed, I dont falsely reveal, do i?
GH, if you would like the town to win, you would vote Sarathos, because he is pretty much almost definitely the last killer...
Unvote GH, Vote Sarathos
Well I am missing something, because i don't see how I am the killer? I go do school work and come back to find everyone pointing fingers at me for, what was the reason again....?
*** points finger at Sarathos ***
Lists out of nowhere, hunches, voices, random.org,... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarathos
Oh well, not much I can do now. Seems everyone has their mind made up. I can't explain/defend myself from anything because no one has accused me of anything. Not much I can do....~:handball:
Voting over. Please wait for the conclusion of this phase.
Thats me out
Thanks for the game Myrddraal. :2thumbsup:
Now the inhabitants were gathered to see justice done.
"The condemned, standing before us... sitting before us... Sarathos... has been found guilty by trial by his peers of the murder of Warman, the murder of Ichigo, the ..."
The gathering crowd were anxious to see him hang...
"Glad they got him. A man guilty of all those crimes!"
"... the murder of Khaan, we condemn him to be hung by the neck until dead.
May the Lord have mercy on his soul. Proceed."
The whip was raised and fell, but this time there was no guardian angel.
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Sarathos struggled for a short while, but soon he hung limp, dead.
Send your night orders.
GeneralHankerchief was hitchhiking on a freight train. He was taking nap between two crates when he was woken by the brakes slamming on and the engine stalling.
As he gathered his things and prepared to leave (he didn't want to be caught illegally riding a train) he heard two gunshots.
Time to get out of here he thought.
He leapt from the wagon and bolted, trying to maked it into a gully not far from the train, but he was shot dead before he could make it far.
Voting begins. There will be WOG.
Damn... Vote Rythmic, only possible mafia left...
Or you.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
Figured that was what was going to happen, but you won't be rid of me that easily.
All right, I've been doing some thinking. Myddraal has stated that WoGs will happen this round. The remaining town should probably ignore both the innocents and the WoG-bait in order to maximize their chances of defeating the enemy.
Updated alive list:
shlin28
Glenn
pevergreen
Rythmic
woad&fangs
Tratorix
Mithrandir
Innocents, as discussed before:
Glenn
pevergreen
woad&fangs
Tratorix
Potential WoG-bait:
Glenn
Rythmic
Tratorix
The two people that appear on neither list are:
shlin28
Mithrandir
The town's attention should thus be focused on lynching one of those two people today. Rythmic may or may not get Wogged this turn but if he doesn't show up then he almost certainly will buy it next day phase. Out of the two of them, I think shlin is more likely to be guilty. I think he offed me this turn because he knew we were getting down to the end and my death would mean one less vote against him. If Mithrandir was scum, he would know that I wouldn't have gone after him until a few days later.
So, liv'uns, shlin is our best bet.
lynch shlin!
Essentially, that's what it comes down to, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
vote: Shlin
You lied to me :no:
Wow I am screwed :embarassed: I guess nobody would trust me now, but listen to this, I HAVE THE TOWN'S BEST INTEREST AT HEART!!! But if you want to lynch me, I guess it won't matter, because the game will end when the surviving killer gets WoGed...
Unvote Rythmic, Vote peverpink, to make up for lying to you W&F :shame: (I would also have to make up to peverpink though somehow :sweatdrop:)
Edit: In case you havn't figured it out yet, I am the Ugly, and has killed off all of the potential mafias, leaving only the lurkers...
Edit 2: In case you don't believe me, I will post my role pm tomorrow, too tired today.
Unvote: Shlin; Vote: Peverpink
:laugh4: I was wondering if you gave him the same offer you gave me.:laugh4:
If the WoG's are coming at the end of this round then the bounty hunters will be gone and the town+ugly will win, O and me of course since we're lynching pever.
Anyone feel like explaining to the dead town?
Simplified version of what I did:
Andres (the doctor) gave me a list of people I can kill (ie not the Good), I killed/lynched them. Then I started going through the rest of the list, ie Sasaki, Sarathos and GH. (and I organised the bandwagon on Sarathos too), I figured one of them has to be the mafia/bounty hunter.
Unfortunately... they were not, so now the lurkers are the bad guys.
And now... my Role Pm:
You are Tuco Ramirez, The Ugly
Tuco Ramirez, The Ugly (Serial killer)
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1854/theuglyap2.jpgCharacter description (Warning, spoilers):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The Ugly, Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez, a comical, oafish, fast talking bandit who is wanted by the authorities. Tuco manages to discover the name of the cemetery where the gold is buried, but he doesn't know the name of the grave - only Blondie does. This state of affairs forces Tuco to become reluctant partners with Blondie, but greed has Tuco waiting for the first opportunity to betray Blondie.
- Abilities:
- 1 Kill per night, 100% chance of killing any player.
- Objectives:
- Major Victory:
- Kill the Bad
- Kill the Bounty Hunters
- Kill the Good
- Survive
- Minor Victory:
- Survive
- Bonus/Special Objective:
- Keep Father Pablo (his brother) alive
Andres was giving you orders and you left Mithrandir alive? :inquisitive: Andres has been going after him the entire game.
Mithrandir is under my control :yes:
That was how I managed to create my uber bandwagon on Sarathos, I like to think myself as the puppetmaster of the game :beam:
Since Shlin killed you and no one else was killed last night I believe it is safe to assume that one of the WoG bait is a bounty hunter. The game will end with the WoGs and Me, Shlin, and Mith will ride off into the sunset together...On camels of course...
edit: How is Mith under your control? Did you offer him a deal too?
Actually, reading up on the Town victory conditions, I (the Town) win if either you (shlin) die or the bounty hunters do, so go crazy. :yes:
hah, I figured it was something like that. So, lynch shlin for townie victory.
I would, but I'm dead. Looks like what's gonna happen is pever's getting lynched, Glenn and Tratorix (possibly Rythmic) are getting Wogged, leaving the Ugly, the surviving Captain, and whatever role Mithrandir is winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Alternatively, if Rythmic doesn't get Wogged, shlin will just whack him tonight with the same scenario.
Vote: Shlin28Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlin28
:dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2:
Right, screw this. Just lynch shlin, just because.
Anyone arrogant enough to call himself the game's puppetmaster in the public thread deserves a lesson in humility.
It's a pity I got killed.
Remember, that pm was sent BEFORE you revealed that you were just a townie with a bonus objective, I thought you guys were neutral, and so I thought I better not send both of you guys the same pm, just in case you support he mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by peverpink
My control over Mithrandir came about when I attacked him on the first round :2thumbsup:
And lastly, my comment about me being the "puppetmaster" was a bit stupid... please don't hold it against me... :juggle2:
The town were gathered to discuss the latest murder, and to see justice done.
Shlin: Look amigos, I killed General Hankerchief! but don't be harsh on me, I swear it was in self defence! Well... preemptive self defence... I'm trying to kill a couple of bounty hunters who are after me!
Rythmic: They're after you? I thought they were after me?
Mithrandir: I think..
Shlin: Shut up Mithrandir, or I'll finish you off
Tratorix: But who are the bounty hunters? Is anybody here a bounty hunter?
Dead silence followed, which was interrupted by the entrance of the Glenn the Sheriff.
Wait, stop! I just searched Sasaki's diary and found conclusive evidence that he was a corrupt Union corporal helping a bounty hunter to track down a casket of stolen confederate coins. They were killing all who got in their way. That bounty hunter, Angel Eyes, was also known by some as Sarathos. It seems like we got the scum!
Mithrandir: Well Sheriff, what abo...
Mithrandir's words were cut short as two revolver butts knocked him out.
Shlin and Rythmic both grinned widely: I slipped.
But before Glenn could suspect anything, GeneralHankerchief made a dramatic entrance, staggering under his injuries, he collapsed on the threshold of the town hall.
As if this were a hidden cue, mayhem broke out. GeneralHankerchief was rushed to the amateur care of Tratorix, Glenn had to break up a vicious brawl between pevergreen and woad&fangs and Mithrandir hid under a table as gunshots and table legs flew overhead.
In the confusion nobody saw a brief exchange of words between Rythmic and Shlin, and they quietly slipped out the back.
Saddling up outside, Shlin looked at his new partner. Seems I won't find that gold after all, that double crossing Khaan is dead without telling me the name on the grave.
Well that's a funny thing, said Rythmic The other day I was following the Bounty Hunter Ichigo, and I saw him kill a blond haired man who was unarmed in a barn. The blond haired man was only injured, so when Ichigo had cleared off I went up to him. I asked him who he was, and he gave me a name, but something tells me it wasn't his name...
And the pair rode into the sunset, as life in the west returned to normal.
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/...ysunsetgd8.jpg
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Wahoo! :medievalcheers:
Thanks for hosting Myrddraal. This game deserved better than what it got. It was fun for me, trying to rationalize everything in the thread and then realizing on the last day that I was completely out of the loop. :laugh4:
Funniest moment goes to Andres for claiming doctor in the thread when he thought he was going to be lynhced :laugh4:
I didn't get a single investigation request from Glenn, and the doctor and the good got killed off pretty fast, so the town did quite well all things considered.
Glenn told me he had investigated me Night 1. :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
I killed khaan...:bigcry:
pever, sorry that I had to reveal us like that. I didn't expect an extended night phase or for there to only be 1 kill.
Bad Shlin:whip:
GH was a townie and you lied to me and pever.
It's too bad the game had so much inactivity. Fun game nonetheless. I'll be sure to show up for your next game, Myrrd.
I did what I had to do to find the bounty hunters :yes:
But look at this, I killed off Sasaki and Ichigo, lynched Sarathos and Caius... without me you wouldn't have your victory :beam:
ummm, me and pever lost...
I don't know what he told you but we were neutral roles whos only objectives were to get the other lynched and survive.
In post 180 he claimed that you guys are "pro-town"...
Of course I was.Quote:
GH was a townie
I never lie unless it suits me.
Sorry you're right. Glenn did investigate you before gowing AWOL
Interestingly both the Ugly and the Bad targeted the cowardly store owner in the first round. Mith was cursed with that role, but for some reason Sarathos never passed any instructions to Mith, which left Shlin to use him as he wished.
Grr... :whip:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I chose to help the town. I won in my mind.
I could past instructions to Mithrandir... :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
Must not of read my role pm correctly.
Oh great, 2 serial killers both decided to kill me first :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
Good game shlin28 :bow:
Well played, my beloved brother. Now, please, stop this life of crime and become a priest. Mom will be happy.
Thnx for hosting Myrddraal, it was a fun game :2thumbsup:
Thanks for the hostage Myrddraal :bow:
It wasn't in your role PM. It was in the Cowardly store owner description, which was available to all. I also told you in your results for the first round :wink:Quote:
Must not of read my role pm correctly.
Who knows what difference it might have made :grin: :cowboy:Quote:
{BHC}AntiWarmanCake88 is the Cowardly General Store owner!
He has sworn to serve you in exchange for his life. He does not know your identity. You may send him messages and instructions through me.
NOTE: {BHC}AntiWarmanCake88 is quitting the game, and will hopefully be replaced by Mithrandir
I don't mind :laugh4:
*crawls from under the table and sets of on his camel into the sunset*
Meh, I didn't use Mithrandir that much, I only told him who to vote for...
Imagine what would happen if Sarathos tried to use Mithrandir to prevent his bandwagon though :smash:
Yeah, if only I could read properly :bigcry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlin28
Yey! Win through lurking.
At the end I debated whether I should kill you or GH... you got saved because I thought you were too obviously lurking :sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic