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I agree with this sentiment entirely. And also nominate Pvblivs Atilivs Regvlvs as the commander of Legion I Apulia. He already knows the troops, and what it takes to lead the army. I have complete confidence in his abilities as a commander of Rome.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
The doors to the Curia swing open, but the Senators are chatting away and do not initially notice the figure walking into the Senate Hall. The tapping of his military boots on the marble floor echoes around throughout the space, and the chatting turns to whispers, as Senators turn to stare at the new arrival. Legatus Cotta enters the hall, in clean military dress adorned with tall helmet. His face gives nothing away, as his gaze sweeps the stands. As he reaches the centre, all talking stops, as the Senators wait for the Legate to speak.
Good morning, Gentlemen. How fares today's discussions?
A portly senator stands, a look of anger upon his face.
"Ah Legate, nice of you to join us at last. We were just mourning our dead consul, if you hadn't noticed during your relaxing day!"
Cotta looks at him, with a kind of detached weariness.
Horatius, in case you did not know, I was there when the Consul was killed, thank you very much. I dragged him from the battlefield myself. I have said all I wish to say to him, to his family and his clients. I have nothing to further to say. Mourned I have, believe me not at the cost of your own respect. A fine man, a great man, has died, leaving our Republic once more weaker than it should be.
But we gain nothing from mourning. Further action, retaliation, and less dileberation is what we require at this time. Senators, I do not dishonour the memory of the man that was, when I say we must for now forget about when he was alive, and we must ourselves live up to the fact that he is dead and that is that. Our republic stands daily on the brink of destruction. One decisive move by any single one of our innumerbale enemies, and we are crushed. Consul Asina, had one of us many Senators have died, would unlikely have sat around wishing they were still alive until something so drastic forced him from his slumber. I have returned to Rome to make sure this does not happen.
Segesta is captured, but Liguria is not. It will require many more battles, a constant show of force and the occupation of the country for several more months before we can even think about leaving them be. In my absense and Consul Asina's recent death, the legions have been left in temporary command of the highest ranking tribune, Pvblivs Atilivs Regvlvs. I trust his judgement and command ability. Be in no doubt that our recent exploits of the north have improved our position not only in Italia, but in the Mediterrainian. We are, and should remain, a force to be reckoned with. However, we are still new to the board game. We face invasion from every corner. The Greeks, ever hungry for conquest, still lie in their mountainous homeland. I admit, they fight constantly amongst themselves, no single party gaining the upper hand. But invasion from Greece has occured before; it can happen again.
To the south lies Sicily; the home of evil tyrants and ambitious empires. Syracuse, Carthage. All would not weep at Rome's fall. We called an alliance with the son's of Dido over the Molosson threat. That threat is extinquished; how long can the pact last?
And fianlly to the north, the Gauls watch and wait, like patient wolves eyeing a flock of lambs. Expanded north, we may have done. However, we have no northern border. The Celtic hordes have many a time before swept down the spine of Italia, burning and pillaging whatever pleased them. It could reoccur at any time. We must establish our authority. With exhausted armies and depleted strength, a complete conquest up to the Alps is, for the moment, unrealistic. However, the wide banks of the Po River offer a stong natural barrier against the blond giants. Let us guard this border, lest we again face another invasion.
Senators, the time for mourning is over. There is much to discuss. The Legio I Apullia lacks a commander. My two Tribunes are ready to face the Legatus' trials. We lack a second Consul. All must be addressed, and quickly. I leave it in your hands, gentlemen.
The Dictator Speaks...
"Legatus Pvblivs Atilivs Regvlvs is now the commander of Legio I Apulia...and all new promotions have been documented in the library."
Servivs Longvs stands, weary, tired , and demorilised from the loss of his brave and noble commander.
"Senators, what Legatvs Cotta says is true, we must move on and honor the death of Consul Asina by ensuring that our victories in the North were not a waste. We must fortify those cities soon, or the barbarians will use the death of one of our commanders to their advantage. We must show them that we Romani are strong.
Hear these words, senators, and let us act quickly and send heavy reinforcements to the North. We must keep those cities...we must keep them for Consul Asina...
Servivs sits and hangs his head slightly. His beaten morale causes him to slouch, he will continue to mourn Asina.
I agree. Let us prepare and march!
"Thank you, Dentatvs! It is an honour to replace Asina, and I will make sure not to disappoint you."
Pvblivs bows.
A man, shaven, stern, yet having a morose expression on his face, dressed in military attire enters the Curia.
"Ave Senatores! I am Manivs Clavdivs Cicero, I have recently rode a long distance from Segesta down to Roma to express my gratitude to our noble Heres Blasio for sponsoring me into senatorship (OOC: I'm not sure what's the phrase to use here, so this might sound rather weird); also, as a close friend to the late Consul Asina-
Cicero's facial expressions twitches as he says "late consul" and gulps before saying "Asina"
-I have been trusted by him to publish the last of his documents to the senatorial library (OOC: the stories in the stories thread and some other related things)"
Cicero hands a medium-sized stack of parchments over to a magistrate; on those notes were the instantly-recognisable yet totally illegible handwriting of Consul Asina
Cicero then turned to Legatus Publius
"Legatus, you may or may not recall me but I had served as a minor officer, one of those in charge of drilling the men, in Legio I Apulia. and I wish to enlist in Legio I Apulia as a Tribunus, the choice to accept is yours, I just wish to honour Consul Asina."
(OOC: though Navarro hasn't confirmed Cicero's rank, I'm assuming it to be Tribunus (which it most likely would be)
Senator Tiberius Claudius Marcellus emerged from one of the alcoves designated for the keeping of the Senatorial library, arms piled with several scrolls and a small book, and placed them down at a desk. A housekeeper of the Curia scurried forward with a burning wick to ignite the lamps where the Senator would be reviewing the legal documents.
Curosry glances of the scrolls reveaeld nothing of interest. He knew they wouldn't but one could never be too careful when searching for information. Father had taught him that often enough the most important of things could be hidden in the most obscure or unassuming of places. More than once father had been right. This time, however, the scrolls being examined contained only supply lists for the Legions that until recently had been "liberating" provinces and towns for the Res Publica. A laundry list of everything from barrels of water to bushels of grain to ingots of iron for the blacksmiths. The sheer magnitude of supplies needed boggled the mind. It was inconceivable that so many people could be coordinated to supply these items from all over Italia and be convinced to sell them to the military. Yet, Segesta was the lastest testament that supply these items they did, and according to the records at quite the profit too.
Tiberius pushed the scrolls aside and motioned to a clerk that they were ready to be replaced in the alcoves. The elderly man silently glided up and caressed each scroll as he would a newborn babe. These parchments were this man's life. Tiberius reminded himself to show respect for them. Opening the small book he had almost overlooked on the shelves, Tiberius flipped through the pages until he came to the current accounting of Tribunes being accepted to the new legions. Passed up again!
Tiberius was livid. How dare they pass him up for men of lesser age and standing. While his own standing was still that of plebeius, he was moving up in the world - or at least trying too. Then the wave of realization suddenly hit, overwhelming Tiberius to the point of near regurgitation: The Romani were plotting against him because of his Hellenic upbringing. They wouldn't even consider him for a post unless it was in some backwater province keeping the rocks and the fields in line. They did not trust him.
Calming himself, Tiberius gently closed the book and walked to the alcove to place it back on the shelves. The custodian wrung his hands and figeted nervously, too wary to ask the Senator to allow him to do it himself; but unwilling to trust someone else to handle his charges alone. Tiberius smiled at the elderly man and walked out of the chambers. These Romaoi would learn that Tribunus Tiberius Claudius Marcellus was no man to dangle a carrot in front of and then refuse to let him have even a nibble. No sooner than was the senator out of sight then the arthritic custodian of the Curia quickly glided into the alcove making slight adjustments here, and a finger swipe at the dust there. Senators were such clumsy folk. They had no attention to detail.
The Dictator stands and after a loud cough he speaks...
"I know their has been a lot of confusion after the death of Consul Asina. No man in this Curia looked to him with the utmost respect than I. His passing is the price we pay for a greater Rome.
So, as my servants tell me my condition is worsening, I must quickly get down to business. Legatus Cotta will continue to command Legio II Latium. Legatus Regvlvs will have the honor of commanding Consul Asina's mighty Legio I Apulia. I know young Regvlvs will gain victories in honor of his former commander."
Dentatvs clears his throat...
"As for all new legates at the end of this year, if the Gods allow me to live to then, I will commission one new legion one of you may command. If Denarii, which does not grow off our trees, permits it I may even commission a second. For now all legates are free to study in one of our schools, or serve with any legion. (OOC: They are not tribunus' and will not count as 2nd or 3rd in commands. They are their simply to be part of the RP stories, be part of the action, or maybe get lucky and take command in the absence of a player in real-life. So yes a legion can have as many legates as it wants, but they do not directly report to anyone in it.)
All tribuni who do not already have a command post given to them, must wait till the Congressional Council to gain one in the newly commissioned legions. I suggest you also continue your schooling as education will one day make for a fine commander."
With a harsh cough the Dictator seats himself and sips some water...
Heres Blasio's message from Segesta to the Curia
"I have here read reports from our military advisers. My orders after taking these into consideration:
1st I will be returning to Roma. Legatus Cotta is still in command of Legio II.
2nd All legions will be retrained and march for the last independent state near us, Patavium.
That is all"
"Legatvs Cotta, would you mind if i serve with you in the Legio II Apulia? As a Legatvs myself, there would still be room for your 2nd and 3rd Tribunii, that is, if you'll have me. I would like to continue fighting and would be honored to fight with you again, this time in the same Legion."
Servivs smiles at Legatvs Cotta, waiting for a response.
Legatus Servivs, I would be honoured to have you join me in my legion. May our enemies quake in fear!
A man, barely a man, stands from the sea of senator's and tribunes. He flattens out his robes and looks out into the ocean of waiting eyes. Nervousness attempts to strike him down but he stands, nothing but absolute calm on his face, so calm he appeared emotionless.
Senator's, Concul's and Dictator's, servants of Rome and the Senate! I stand here to announce my introduction into military service to Roma. I am Marcvs Clavdivs Marcellvs, I hope to serve well, and be enslaved to the name of Rome forever, and die fighting for Rome. his voice is strong, as cold as the expression on his face, but his eyes radiate a calming energy.
I have devoted the very exsistence of my life to fighting for Rome and the Dictator. If I must, I will die for the Dictator of Roma, even if that means falling upon my gladius, I would. Is there anyway I can possibly fight for the Dictator?
I also am saddened by Consul Asina's death. A loss of sucha influential figure in our Senate is truly horrible. I am sure his family was proud he died fighting for Rome, killing the enemy of Rome. Such a death is many of those who die constantly... they are jealous of such a death, the option of dieing for Rome.
As if to counter his sad words, not a trace of emotion touches his face, and he sits awkwardly as some of those around him wonder how such words of greiving could come from such a stone of emotion; none.
I shall remain in Roma until the next season for our Congressional session for now, unless Legatus Regulus requires my presence in Segesta.
(OOC: which means only Cicero would be staying in Roma until the congressional session, but the rest of his bodyguard are in Segesta)
Deciumus Cornelius Scipio stands up.
I am happy to report to the senate that my proposal for sending a diplomat to the east is a complete success.
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Foreign Affairs
Our diplomats have given trade rights and map information to the Arche Seleukeia for 200 Denarii in return. They have also given trade rights and map information to Pontos for their own map information. Our knowledge of the world has very much widened on our diplomats voyage.
"Indeed it is, Scipio. Accolades to you for your vision." Most of the Curia turn in their seats to see who is speaking. Tiberius Claudius Marcellus continues,
"My friends, fellow Romans, let us remember well the friendship we have in the Orient. Not only our immediate neighbors - to include the Epirote Hellenes - but also futher past. We would do well to cultivate the garden of friendship and equity that when we set our eyes upon the jewel of the Mediterranean that is Carthago we might call upon mighty allies to aid in the destruction of a mutual enemy.
"Surely, my fellow senatores, you agree that it would be most unwise to have enemies on all fronts. And also, though some would promote the Hellenes as our greater threat, one who appraises the situation carefully would quickly agree that it is Carthago who poses the greatest threat to our borders. Why, the very treaty we signed limiting ourselves from the straights of Messana is insulting to the will of the people of Roma! It is degrading in the manner in which it gives these dark-skinned foreigners rights to monopolize the economies and trade of lands on our doorstep. Verily, it is Carthago with whom we shall next clash arms whether we seek it or not. For, it is best to take the field of battle on our terms, than to play on the defensive while the mighty armies of Carthago ravage our countryside trying to eliminate us as the very threat as which we see them!"
Lowering his head in silent thought, Tiberius can hear the murmurring of the other Senatores considering what has been said. As the voices begin to quiet down, he seeks to tip the balance in favor of his proposal.
"A bad peace worse than war."
Tiberius takes his seat and tents his fingers, watching the flow of events.
Heres Blasio enters the Curia with a sad look on his face.
"Good senators its good to be home. This year is one of tragedy and glory. I have received word that our Lady Favstina, Dictator Dentatavs' wife, has passed away in her sleep. So for the duration of this council, he will not be present and I will monitor this council. so....
I here by declare the third Congressional Council open! It will remain open for debate and legislation until January 16, 2009 at 5pm Pacific; at which point there will be 48 hours allotted for voting."
"I leave the floor open for debate and I will make my main proposals later. As for now I will only announce Edict 3.1: That the commissioning of Legio III Campania be proclaimed. And if Legatvs Servivs Sempronivs Longvs is willing...he may be given command of this Legio. Do you accept Legate Longvs?"
I'd second edict 3.1, we need the legion. Who's commander can be elected afterwards
I also second edict 3.1.
Senators, it is time to expand ourselves outside of Italia. The city of Massilia is well postioned, is rich and prosperous and has had dealings with us in the past. I propose EDICT 3.2-Extract an alliance from the city of Massilia.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I would also like to express my immense condolences to the Dictator after the tragic loss of his wife. May the two of you meet again wonderfully in the distant future.
Very well proposal. Why should we leave Sicilia to those Carthagians? I also second your edict, Legatvs.
Marcvs stands, a slight smile glancing throuigh the fog of his face
Legatvs Caivs, I hope in your expression of grief you do not wish death upon our great Dictator?
Marcvs face transform into a deep frown before settling back into a wall of no expression
A new Legion is very much needed, and it will be swift defense to our borders. I hope Longvs is up to the job, as one mistake up north can mean a swift end to this Senate.
With the forming of this new Legion I wonder when the Dictator will form his own legion, under his own personal command. I am sure iwth the Dictator's skills this Legion can be quite the herald to our enemies. May I ask our leader when he will form such a Legion? Or if we need a Edict for such a thing. I am sure other Senator's will agree with me that it is due time for a Imperial Legio.
I also wonder at what is our stance against the Celtic tribes of Gallica? Do we plan to massacre them like we have the others?
Marcvs looks briefly at the empty seat of the Dictator, then his eyes burrow when he looks at Blasio, wondering
I 2nd the proposal on the attack on Sicily. Every year our ships get plundered by their raiders, and our people go hungry while they could have got fat on Sicilian grain.
Though if we are going to take Sicily we might as well pick up Sardinia and Corsica along with it. A tribune with 4 cohorts of normal legionnaire infantry should be enough to take both islands (maybe more for garrison).
Of course only after our northern borders are secured. Safety of Rome and the senate first.
Cicero rises, apparently seeming more positive than previously.
"If the soon to be recruited Legio III is to be used for defence or garrison duties, I would say that it is too small to be so. If you have read the intelligence reports from the library from a year ago, Gaulish hordes were reported to be rallying around Mediolanum, forming two large armies (OOC: 2 fullstacks, though numbers are unknown)."
"but if the legion is to be used for campaigning, perhaps Legatus Cotta's proposal that Massalia should be made a client state could require the legion, as its presence might intimidate the Massalians to capitulate. However, I fear the stone bastion that surrounds the city might hinder our troops greatly, as none of our legions, or commanders, has had experience in sieging a city with such a bastion."
Cicero suddenly remembers something
"ah yes, there is something I have a sudden urge to refer to in the senatorial library, please excuse me for a few moments, my assistant shall take down any other things which would be directed to me and I shall answer them when I return, it would not be long"
With that, Cicero promptly left the Curia.
Quintus looks some of his fellow senators and says..
Do you people even understand the difference between Massalia and Messana??
Massalia is a town west of Segesta and Messana is a town in north of Sicily.
If I would have the power of proposing legislation I would propose that we go against Messana instead of Massalia. But those islands, Corsim and Sardinia, are also good targets but in order to reach there we need to have a navy. Something we don't have at the moment!!!
Quintus sighs...
OOC: for RP reasons, Cicero isn't back yet
Cicero's assistant stands, however with the appearance that seems as if he would sit down immediately any moment.
"Tribunus Quintus, I assure you Tribunus Cicero understands that Massalia is the stone-walled Greek city to the northwest of Segesta, wheras Messana is the Mamertine settlement on Sicilia; therefore he assumed that Legatus Cotta's proposed edict referred to taking the city northwest of Segesta, rather than the one on Sicilia. As for the thing about the islands and navies, I shall wait for Tribunus Cicero to return to answer it, because I don't think my opinion could represent his"
Quintus responds..
I was talking about Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs who said
And that was response to Legatus Cotta's Edict proposalQuote:
Originally Posted by Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs
I would suggest that Avlvs should check his maps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legatus Cotta
Tiberius chuckles to himself, imbeciles! He almost wished Quintus had let them continue to gaggle like women at the wash. He forces himself to stifle his good humor and take a commanding tone.
"Ave Senatores! Verily, honored Tribunus Quintus is correct. Massalia and Messana are two different places; but fear not! I concur with those senatores who suggest we expand not into the barbarous north, where we already have two legions garrisoned for defense; but rather southwardly into Sicilia! We've enough small water craft to ferry our armies across the straights of Messana and would not need to construct heavier flotillas.
"As I have stated on multiple occasions the Carthaginians are our first and foremost threat. They currently plot our own demise and would not hesitate to put the sword to our soft underbelly should the first opportunity arise! Let us send the mighty new Legio III to hone its blade and bloody its hands on the walls of Messana! In fact, to show my stalwartness and my own faith in this plan, I offer myself as a Tribune in this new Legio III. I shall take part of the lead in the destruction of our enemies!
"Now, as for the isles of Corsica and Sardinia, let us fear them not. They've not enough of a garrison let alone a nearby fleet to transfer them to be any sort of raiding party or reinforcement to a larger army. Let those rocky fortresses stand alone in the sea; it shall be their own undoing, isolated as such. After we focus our spear points on the entire island of Sicilia, then, we can further our borders and extend our reach into the deepest parts of the Mediterranean by taking the Occidental isles. When that is completed, our armies and possessions will form an arrow head with the tip being pointed at the heart of Carthago itself!
Tiberius' voice rings clearly as he crescendos for dramatic effect.
"Of course, senatores, I cannot propose this formally; but let it be on the record that I support the motions of those brave Senatores who can forsee the future of Roma surpassing that of our purported "allies" to the south and west."
Calm down Quintus, my friend, my knowledge of my maps is profound, he mumbled the name, so I did not understand it right Avlvs smiled. No, seriously, I missunderstood (OOC: i read to fast...). Adressing all the senatores: Senatores, my mistake, please forgive me.
And with a more serious countenance, he said
In fact its my oppinion to go south anyways, but we should first attack sicilia, with that we would cut the supply line from Carthage to Sardinia and Corsim. And as Quintus noted, we'd have to build expensive ships to get there. The carthagian navy is far better than any other's in the world. If we beat them, them on land.
Tiberius stand and applauds Tribunus Aulus
"Very well said, my friend. Honor to you, who so humbly and openly admits a mistake, even one so simple. Surely, your character is made stronger in the eyes of these men. As for encouraging an expedition to the south, I also commend your wisdom and vision. Truly, Roma has no better a Senator than yourself.
Raising an arm towards Aulus, Tiberius continues,
"Honored Gentlemen, we could learn much from a man such as this."
Will the Roman Republic then leave a task half done? I say no. Let us strike north and finish off the Celts south of the mountains. Does one leave a wound to fester? Even now Celtic raiding parties cross into Roman territory without regard for our borders to plunder villages and towns. Let us take Mediolanum and Patavium before we even speak of Sicilia again. The installation of a pro-Roman government (OOC: type 4 government) in Massalia would would a wise decision as well. To the north Senators, to the north!
Cotta, having listened with growing impatience to the recent senator remarks, stands again.
Senators, I fully agree with Caivs Aemilivs Mamercvs; how can we think of moving south with one legion when we have yet to finish in the north? I absolutely loathe to see our glorious republic prepare to purposefully and effectively stab our friends in the back! Is that what we have become so quickly? You talk of Sicily as if it were Roman by birthright. Under durress of war this pact may have been done, but how dare we not only break it once the war is finished, but we attack our once time allies. Shame on you, Senators of the Republic.
I fear that Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs may still have much to learn should he think that we can tackle the greatest naval power this world has to offer without a single ship and hope to win. Superior on land our armies may be. However, the Carthaginians employ vast swathes of mercenaries, horsemen and giant beasts. They are one of the greatest powers in the Mediterrainian. An attack on them now would be fruitless, unjustified, and shortsited.
Once more, I also fear my recent edict to extract an alliance with the grand city of Massilia may have been misinterprited, and has sparked off this terrible discussion on war in Italy. Rome is not safe, Senators. I feel almost ashamed that you believe we are impossible to attack. Have you all forgotten our troubles so far? How close we have come to extinction? I do not deny the power of our armies or the potential of our republic. But daily we face old threats from many who want to see us live no longer. We have many enemies, gentlemen. Let us not create more than we need.
To justify my recent proposal, I say that, with the imminent capture of Patavium, the north of Italia will be stronger. With the protection of the western passes through the Alps protected by an allied city state, we are almost completed safe by land. Only with the eventual capture of the Insurgbres (sp.) in Mediolanium will we be safe.
I beseech you, Senators. Strike where we can, fight on our terms where we are strong. North, not south.
Tiberius abruptly stands up, barely allowing Legatus Cotta to finish his last sentence, his anger seething to a near boil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baen
"Legatus Cotta, your work in the legions is most apprecited, and your experience is duly noted here amongst your peers; however to state that you "abhor" us? Your fellow citizens? To so casually bare your hatred for us in the open is reprehensible! While our discussions may be heated, there is no love lost amongst us. Why do you cause such unnecessary discord?
"Senior Senatores, I implore you to shame this man with a nota censoria! Let the people know who is for us and who is against us. His words cannot be taken back! He has spoken his mind and his heart for all to hear! Who but we can right this wrong? I had heard told that those of the Gens Aurelia were xenophobes; but to hear that they hate their own kind fills me with a righteous and burning anger!
Tribunus Tiberius Claudius Marcellus sits down, glowering at Legatus Caius Aurelius Cotta in absolute disgust.
Cotta stands, fists clenching and unclenching by his side.
And you are you to insult me so, Tribune. Never before has such insolence been spoken in these chambers. I appeal to my fellow senators sense, to their humanity and their civil nature. Man should not stab man in the back, when we once not very long ago shared wine and stories with them. You, you are not worthy of your stance in this republic should you question my right to ask justice and good faith upon our fellow man. War with Carthage? I will have no part in it before Carthage itself declares it's detest for our country.
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Originally Posted by Baen
You may be right. I am young and I am eager to learn from you and any older and wiser senator. I have no experience, that is true. But how shall I learn, if not by bringing forward my thoughts, so wiser senators can think about them and correct brash youths as I am?
Now hear, what my thoughts areand think about it without prejudice, before you answer, dear senatores. Would 1 oder maybe 2 legions not be more than enough to hold the Celts back? You see, the league of the Arverni and the league of the Aedui are not best friends. If we attack - well, "free" - Celtic cities, we may unify them. Let them kill each other if they want to.
You are right, friend Cotta, Carthage is strong. But what can they do with their ships, block our ports? This would be not half as effectively as us taking their cities. Could we not establish a strong legion and march south, would that not be enough to beat those Carthaginians IN SICILY - please note, that I do not say, we should march towards the other islands or even Africa. That'd be the case we needed ships for. Its too early for that.
But that is not even the point. I would like to bring forward another sentiment. Messana and especially Syrakousai are very rich cities, and are not under Carthaginian command, are they? Maybe I really have to check the actual maps. Anyhow, Syrakousai is Greek and supports our Greek enemies. If we took those cities - we have good reason - they would be ours by right, not the Carthaginians. We would not start a war with them. If they don't give us the right to extinguish our adversaries, then let them attack. Then they would have started the war, and show, that they never were our friends.
With that, Avlvs sat himself and listened what would be responded.
Avlvs, I doubt not your desire to learn nor your ability in your character. I am a strong supporter of the Aemilii and have expressed this. I admire your courage to speak out despite your inexperience.
As for the power of the Carthaginian navy, I feel you highly underestimate its power.
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As for your offer of attacking the other cities of Sicily, it may be of interest to you that Carthaginian and Roman influence meets in Sicily. Within the alliance we signed with them some years before in mutual support against the Molosson threat, Sicily was considered under Carthaginian sphere of influence. No roman army would cross the straits, and likewise no Carthaginian force would attack any part of the Italian mainland.
I once more express the difficulties and dangers to the north. It seems to be such a glance over that we have suffered so much at the hands of the Gauls. We must secure our homeland before we can expect to attack outside it. We need allies outside our controlled lands to protect our borders, so that our legions need not be tied up constantly patrolling to the north, waiting attacks from the Celts.
I insult no one by asking the Curia to reprimand your statements in here. I respect your rank; but not the man who claims the title. You claimed for all to hear that you "abhor" us. Perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word - in which case how you became a Senator and a commander of men must be brought into question? Allow me to clarify."
An clerk rushes forward with a copy of the lexicon already opened to the correct section. Tiberius thanks him genially, postures about the room for a few seconds and clears his throat dramatically.
"Our word 'abhorrēre' from ab- + horrēre (to shudder) has the meaning 'to regard with extreme repugnance; to loathe.' Those are your stated words, Legatus, about us, your fellow citizens - your fellow Romani. What else do we need to hold you accountable?"
Tiberius paces while dramatically posing as if thinking.
"Your 'love of your fellow man' is duely noted, Caius. Such a shame that your fellow men are dark skinned foreigners from across the sea who took advantage of our position and coerced us into a humiliating treaty and not those who share your blood, your heritage, your home! I tell you all this: Tiberius turns around slowly with a finger raised, garnering the attention of all the men of the legislative body If we do not strike first, we will be first struck! Carthago esse delendum!"
Tiberius pauses, glowing in the uproar of senators arguing and agreeing with each other in heated exchanges. It was pure rapture. He called for quiet to finish his address.
"Gentlemen, honored fathers and sons of Roma, I am a man of convictions; but I am not so hard-headed that I cannot see the forest for the trees. May I ammend my address by suggesting that since we've the man power, we fight on two fronts. It is not wholly impossible - our legions in the north are fully capable of dealing with the rabble that inhabits the mountainous country. Let us fill one to great strength to extend out influence and leave the other in reserve, on the off chance that we should be unsuccessful. Then, with the new Legio III being formed - which I still offer to help command - I suggest we advance into Sicilia as well.
"This is not entirely unsupportable. Let us take heart in the stories of the courage of Aeneas and Romulus and Remus, all of whom overcame extreme adversity and made us the great people that we are today."
Tiberius Claudius Marcellus, reserve yourself! Not only you insult a great warlord and true roman, but also a friend of my family. A roman legatvs is to be respected, especially by a young tribvnvs as you are.
As I have already stated, Senator, I used the term abhor in response to the feelings of shame I feel that our grand republic would so quickly and easily forget all that the treaty we have made stands for. We have few friends; I appeal to the senate-let us not lose another. We are two of the greatest nations on this sea. United, no one can hope to stand against us. The result of the Pyrric war shows this. We have no need to fight as of yet, especially when we have as of yet unfinished business in the north.
Raises an eyebrow at Aulus
"Young Tribunus to you as well, dear Aulus. I have paid due notice to Legatus Cotta's experience and service in the legions. His accomplishments are renowned throughout the Res Publica. However, he has insulted every member of the Curia with his comments, yourself included. I for one, shall not suckle at the proverbial teat of greatness like a muling infant. I demand satisfaction."
(OOC: You edited your previous post and changed "abhor" to "beseech". Not very good RP if you ask me, and you didn't clarify that you meant abhor in reference to the feelings of shame.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Baen
"If you have misspoken, Legatus, then I shall accept your mistake. I am sure you will forgive my indignation towards your spoken, though unintentional, insult."
I will not be drawn any further into this argument. I have made myself perfectly clear. I abhor not the men before me, but the discussion of the attacking our allies that these senators seem to think is acceptable. Tribune Marcellus has made his point clear and has begun to make the attack personal. Therefore here is the basis for my withdrawal.
I have a lot of paperwork to do regarding my legion. I will return to the Curia at a later date.
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Macvs stands angrily and quickly
It is good you have resolved the arguement, senators, as we do not need such useless talk disturbing our discussions. There are more important thing's are stake here then your honor. I insist you both get over it.
Marcvs nods politely towards both men
I actually agree with Legatus Cotta. Why'll Sicilia is a problem, I think we should strike into Gaul. Who cares if the Averni or Aedui are strng? We have Roman might! They shall tremble! One strike into that damned place and thousands of slaves shall run to our Roman mines!
Strike the place! Enslave or kill them all! Send two legion's I propose!
Marcvs stops talking in his booming voice, and sits down.
After hearing the long debates Heres Blasio rises..
"Our dictator wishes to relay a message, he believes that the Carthaginians are imperialists! Our great Dentatvs speaks of truce with the Epirotes and war with Carthage. In all, he proposes:
Edict 3.3: That the war be declared on Carthage with the complete take over of Sicilia and institution of allied governments there.
Edict 3.4: That a diplomat be sent to Epeiros asking for a ceasefire in our long and drawn out war.
"It is my belief that in dealing with the Iberian barbarians, the Carthaginian forces in Sicilia will quickly fall to our sword and their navy can be dealt with at a later time."
Cotta, having recently stepped back into the hall, angrily rises.
Dictator, Heres, Senators of Roma. With every respect I have for our great Dictator, I cannot believe what I am hearing. Forgive me for saying so, but it sounds too much of a random outburst. The Dictator believes the Carthaginians are imperialists? What proof have we they harbour imperialist dreams? And in what way do these affect the safety of Roma and her allies in the near future? Would the dictator himself forsake Roman honour and attack our allies? Rome's reputation will be tainted forever.
As for the next edict, I also ask has the dictator so quickly forgotten his support and the support received from the senators here today that we would not finance our enemies in Greece? We have defeated our enemies there for the moment. Why should we now offer them the chance to use Roman gold to fund new armies to once more threaten the Italian peninsula? Forgive me, but these I fail to see what basis these edicts are based on, and how they are for the good of Rome?
And what does our noble dictator base this claim of Carthaginian "imperialism" on? The fact that Carthaginian soldiers haven't moved outside their borders in the last 6 years?
Caivs' voice drips with sarcasm.
Do alliances mean so little to Rome that they can be broken without provocation?
As for peace with the Epeiros, I support. Our war with them is pointless now that we have driven them from our peninsula.
"Ill grant you that, their forces have not moved. But they have kept a small force outside of Messana for some time now. The have harassed their trade routes and influenced them against joining our Republic. This you cannot disregard. Alliances do amount for much here in Roma, but as the Carthaginians grow economically stronger, it will become impossible for our two peoples to co-exist. What are we to do should one day these forces in Sicilia cross into Rhegion? Are we going to let them keep tabs on us when we have done nothing of the sort, at least not militarily?"
Then it is not stupendous to station a force in the south of Italy in the way of saying we can protect ourselves, but we honour alliances made? So they have troops postioned and diplomatic ideas of their own within their own sphere of influence? Are they not allowed? Sicily is not Roman, nor is it connected in any way to Rome. Carthage is within its own right, right dictated by a pact made by our own people, to station troops withing Sicily to protect it's interests there. I believe it to be a grave offence to see this an excuse to attack them, or simply an excuse to attack them.
"Yes, but above all it is time to expand. We are not making the Denarii we could be making. And with the ports in Sicilia, we could fund our troops and new troops as well for years to come. And has it not been discussed already that Korsim and Sardin be taken? I cannot imagine the Dicator and myself are the only ones who believe in making this age an age of Roman expansion."
Sir, how can we speak of expanding when we do not even have secure our own country. Let us first ensure the country is safe, prosperous and happy. We can best do this by for now securing the south and what we control. We unite the northern cities of Patavium, Mediolanium and Massilia and ensure they are allied to Roma. They can then protect our borders, dispensing of the need for constant patrols of our legions to the north. Italia, Roma and the people will be secure. Then, and only then, do I propose we begin to think of expansion across waters.
The question is not if to expand, but where to expand. I am at a lose why certain members of this assemble are insisting of tackling a sleeping bear, while we have a rabid dog snapping at our heels. We are already engaged with the Celts in the north, why leave the job unfinished to march all the way to the other in of our Republic to attack allies who have not made any threatening moves?
I do agree that Massilia should be taken, in fact along with Patavium they are at the top of our military objectives. However, how do you propose we take Mediolanium or ally with it? Those barbarians there may not even honor the truce we have now and you think they will accept us as friends? No civilized Roman will ever call themselves a friend of barbarian scum!
We send our legions and crush them. We install a puppet government, heavy taxes and levy the lands' sons to serve in our armies, bringing them up as Romans. I am well aware that these tribes below the Alps harbour alliances and friendships with those past it. However, I fear not incursions or threats on invasions from these Gauls. They are tied up with civil war within their own country, and if they do find the men to spare to cross the Alps, we can easily have a legion alongside native armies stationed in the north to deal with such puny attempts. We can also provide aid to their enemies in their country, eithier forcefully, diplomatically or monetarily, in order to keep their attention elsewhere.
If the Dictator, or his heir, make a decision, we have no choice but to follow it. If Senator Blasio, as heir to the Dictatorship, thinks we should take Sicily, then we shall! You speak of securing our homelands? What of Taras? That was not part of our lands!? The lands north of Roma, they were Celtic!
Our economy struggles, and by launching a offensive into Gaul will we will waste money and lives. Carthrage is obviously imperialistic as has been pointed out; Sicily is not their lands, but ours! What of Sardinia? That is under their iron grasp and people need liberation!
Senator Blasio I will happily support and second any Edict you propose concerning the war against Carthrage. We need a boost in our economy, and the island of Sicily is easily defendable, unlike Massilia northwards.
Perhaps you need a lesson on the meaning of the word "Republic"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warluster
Yes, my cousin's right. What do we have the senate for, when the dictator allone could decide what to do?
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A smug smile emerged on Tiberius' face. His agitation amongst the senatores had served its purpose. Peace woulf be attained with the Hellenes, bringing their gold, culture, and greatest minds to Roma. His tutelage had paid off. And what of the barbaroi to the north? They would be conquered sooner or later, there were men a-plenty to see to that; but Carthago was already established. They themselves had men a-plenty eyeing the fertile lands of Italia. Yes, it was time for war with Carthago and Sicilia was to be the staging ground. Legatus' Cotta's name had been besmirched by his own words. It would take little maintenance to continue to turn ears away from his lips. Already the Dictator was declaring that the legions should head south. Should things go well, all would know of the wisdom of Tiberius Claudius Marcellus. And if they went poorly, well, the Dictator would take the fall, as he decreed it should be so.
Thank you Marcvs Marcellvs, but indeed I must agree that the Republic is what is most important. But above all, you have made great points as to what land is really "ours". And I still stand firm. I believe the war with Carthage will be easily one anyway. I do not underestimate them, but Sicilia if it is swiftly taken will be an easy diplomatic weapon to regain truce. Then when the money flows in, we can dominate both of these warring barbarian countries who cant even keep their own country intact.
Legatus Claudius Nero had finally arrived back in Rome the fortnight before this. He had spent the day washing, relaxing, and getting caught up on what he missed in Curia. His assistant and scribe had spent the season in the senate as Nero was off conquering land in the north under the Honorable Legatus Cotta. For he had traveled back to the eternal city for the advent of the Congressional Council. He had sat with open ears and open mind for much of the day, until he could bare no more to stay quiet.
Tiberius Claudius Marcellus! My my my, have we so quickly forgotten our place in this here Curia? You tongue talks like a Legatus, yet your title carries not such a rank. I believe you are a very smart man, but do know who you insult and who you do not. I will not stand by as my close friend and commander is insulted by such outrageous mockery. I should come over there and put you in place if we were not in a place with so many decent individuals. I will keep an eye on you, surely.
Excuse my outburst dear Senatores, but I have yet another topic to rant about.
This talk of simply 'stranding' our dear Legions in the north in favor of a grand conquest of Carthage has left me speechless until now. Do we forget that these are the Romans who were the original defenders of our homeland, who so courageously fought the Barbarian giants back from whence they came and established but two entire provincae which will undoubtedly serve as a barrier between the Celtic horde. We have but a meager navy and yet we have proposed a invasion of flotilla to head on a Hellenic power? And what happens when we take the island of Sicily? What will happen with the Carthagos come to claim their lost territory? I do not doubt the might of our soldiers, but I'm afraid one legion is not enough to fight off an entire Empire. If we establish our dominance in the north we will be able to do as we wish... but until then we can not wander away from such an imminent threat.
I gladly support edict 3.1, but of the others I can not.
I think that establishing a navy would not be necessary. Aside from that though, something must happen and happen soon. If the Epirotes don't return from the north, the Gallic barbarians will as we expand toward them. If we allow Carthage to grow more powerful, when the time does come to face them, they will of amassed forces we will not be able to contend with. Simply put, this senate must come to an agreement on the future of our expansion and safety. Will we finish off the Epeiros? Invade Sicilia? Or march north against the barbarians? What I am saying is that we cannot stand back and watch as enemies surround us and friends become stronger then us.
"Legatus Nero, we praise the gods for your safe return. As for your baseless accusations that I have insulted anyone, I will let the written record speak for me. And while I respect the rank attained by you and others, I speak as a free Roman, appointed to represent the interests of the people of Tarentum within the greater Res Publica. I will not sacrifice what truth need be told for the sake of political correctness. If that is a flaw in your eyes, then so be it.
"Rest assured, noble commander that no one here speaks of abandoning our legions or the men who have sacrificed so much to the cold north. In fact, I had proposed when Consul Asina was slain that the very legions you claim we plot to "abandon" should be celebrated with a Triumphus here in Roma. Indeed, we are discussing them having a rest to guard our borders, to further pacify and romanize the lands they have just liberated. Surely you would not begrudge them a respite from slaugther? Continue training them, they will again be needed one day."
Ahh yes Tribunus, and will you be the one who will apologize to the Celts for intruding upon their land? They will strike at us again, very soon. And they will not be very happy.
Cicero returns to the Curia, and after a lengthy conversation with his assistant, he turns to address the senatores.
Apologies for my rather lengthy absence, for I had to refer to some records in the Senatorial library, to observe where would be a sound target to strike; and from my judgement, I have been convinced that though Mediolanum and Patavium is an obvious target by consensus among my fellow senatores, would it not be more wise if we just halt our efforts there once the Cisalpine frontier is secured? I doubt those celts would find it a challenge to re-establish their presence in Cisalpine Gaul once we rid the region of them.
Then, I suppose the main challenge is to destroy the massive horde near Mediolanum, but as our first great victory, the one by Consul Asina over the Epirotes, shows, our armies are more suited to fight in the field even against superior forces; therefore if we adopt a similar strategy as how we did to take Taras, the Insurbe would be the next on the list of peoples who have subjugated to Rome.
Afterwards, we should then prepare an invasion of Sicilia; as past reports have shown that the garrisons and armies of the various nations in Sicilia are not that sizable, a Legion, well supplied, could take it within a year or two, if wisely led. This may lead to inevitable war with the Poeni, who we may regard as our trading partners and 'allies'; but with the takeover of Sicilia, we could have more Denarii flowing into our coffers as it has been said that the Goddess Ceres resides on Sicilia, making its land very fertile and productive; and therefore could field more armies, and perhaps a sizable navy, to challenge Punic dominance.
Cotta stands, nodding.
Senators, I agree with what is being said here. Along with Patavium and Mediolanium, I do stress we should also ally ourselves with the city of Massilia to protect the routes to the west. We can use the northern allies to protect our borders, while we ourselves turn southward. I know how precious and resourceful the island of Sicily is, and how rich it will make our republic.
However, I will not have blood on my hands. I refuse to accept that Rome will simply throw away treaties of alliance and friendship without provocoraton. Carthage, although powerful and potentially dangerous in the furute, are still allied to us.
Allied to us? More like friendly trading partners. Carthrage is only not raiding us because they make money at our ports. They eye us and we eye them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baen
Also, you make a poor general if your unwilling to take to combat yourself. Maybe you should resign as a general and give the command of the legions to less cowardly men?
I propose a small force comprising of one senator and 1-2 units of hastati and maybe a single unit of principe go to sardinia or corisica to liberate it from Carthaginian control, once war on the bigger island of Sicily commences. The islands are as much Roman as Poeni, being neither.My patrons who number a few merchants and a greek report that the islands are lightly defended and their people not even participating in the defence of the main settlements.The senator commanding the small force, not big enough to be considered a legion, should be brave, know his way on a boat and around a countryside, and be willing to give his life if a unexpected counterattack does happen or the assault goes awry. I volunteer myself.
Having been absent for a few days, Servivs Longvs talks to his assistant who is informing him of what is going on in the Curia. The assistant finishes, and Servivs stands to address the senators.
"Ave senators, please excuse my absense, issues in my home have kept my from the Curia. Now to the issues at hand, i must agree with Legatvs Cotta. Why should we turn on our Carthaginian trading partners? Both nations are gaining profit from this agreement, there is no need to violate it with a pointless war. A war which will cost us large sums of money, time we do not have, and a war which will put us in a position where we are fighting a two front war. Do not forget the barbarians in the north, my friends, they are still lusting for our blood. Decimus Scipio, i am afraid if we fail in the south, volunteering yourself would just be another waste of Romani life.
Instead of mobilizing troops to the south to mass an unprovoked attack on Carthage, let's send reinforcements to the north where the real threats lay."
Cotta stands, a look of disbelief on his face
Who are you to call me a coward? I have fought in the front lines in every campaign our republic has taken in the last 8 years! I pulled Consul Asina's body away from the surrounding enemy myself! How dare you think you can call me a coward within this hall! I must admire your bravery, sir, but I also have to scorn you for your stupidity.
I would also like to point out that 'I do not wish to have blood on my hands' is a figure of speech. It means I do not want to have any part is stabbing our allies, for that IS what they are, no matter how you view them, in the back.
Oh, and how very noble of you, Senator, to volunteer yourself and these soldiers of Rome to transport yourself across the sea to the islands in the west. Rome must be so proud to have brave generals like you in her armoury. We do not have the resources to attack north and south at the same time, let alone a strike across to Corsica and Sardinia. I see absolutely no sense in what you have said.
"This Congressional Session is now closed. All legislation presentation has ended and the floor is now open for routine discussion. 48 hours will be allotted for voting!"
Cicero prepares himself
"Why should Massilia be taken? Though it may serve as a port where we may possibly trade with those Gauls, it may also serve to provoke them into attacking the city and bringing war between our peoples.
When we take Mediolanum, no doubt it would severely weaken our foes, therefore some would use that as an excuse to continue with the takeover of the rest of Gaul. However I would object to that. When we take Gaul, do we not have to impose our proper ways of life onto their Barbaric lifestyles? how about the infrastructure there? we would have to build them from scratch, the roads, defences, markets and so on. how about maintaining the garrisons? The Germanic tribes to the East of Gaul would be constantly eyeing that region, perhaps one day our legions may have to face those Germanic hordes, which from what I heard from merchants, are more ferocious than the Celts we are used to facing.
However, if we were to take Sicilia; the peoples there already have notions of a proper civilised lifestyle, they have walls, roads, ports, markets, infrastructure already built. Which landmass is closer to Sicilia, Italia or Africa? and from that, who would have an advantage in reinforcing that island?
Let us now compare our foes: Gauls, and if Sicilia were taken: the Poeni.
the Gaulish warriors fight with zeal, they march to where their enemies are; the Punic soldiers fight because the city of Carthage covers them with gold, they march where their general throws the coin. By taking Sicilia, we deprive the Poeni of resources for which to pay their mercenaries.
Anyway, those Poeni are becoming less and less like our Allies each day: Punic Soldiers were seen near the straits of Messena, and for a season threatening the city itself, their fleets sail close to our shores, perhaps threatening a naval blockade, or threatening our merchants; who carry goods to far of places in exchange for gold to fill our coffers."
taking a breath, Cicero seems triumphant, yet unconfident
Cotta stands.
I think you misunderstand the notion of allying with the Massilians. We do not want war with them, nor do we wish to take the city and her lands for ourselves. Only an alliance so that we may protect each other in times of need.
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I would also like to personally thank all those who have voted against the war on Sicily. The argument has been going on for many weeks now, so I won't continue it now. But we are not ready for a war with Carthage yet. This is not the time to discuss this matter.
Pulled Consul Asina's body away? Only when your own personell guards sorrounded the body, then shooed away the slaves picking up the rest of the bodies. And we all know who's payroll the guards are on. We also all know whos payroll depends on the Carthaginians are on also *Turns his head towards Cotta".Quote:
Originally Posted by Baen
And when I volunteered my service to Rome for the capture of Sardinia/Corsica I meant it with humbleness. For I consider it wrong, nay, unroman to propose a military expedition that I myself wouldnt go on. Especially a dangerous one as so.
We do have sufficent Roman forces for a small attack on sardinia or Corsica. Or are you doubting the Roman strength and saying we need 2x the number of the garrisoned Poeni troops there?
The legislation said no attack on Carthrage. So I will not debate the issue anymore. But I urge the senators to remember their loyalty to Rome, and refuse bribes from foreign nations *takes a quick glance at Cotta then focuses back on the center of the senate body once again*.
*Decimus takes a seat. When seated friendly senators around him cant but help to laugh but making sure noone hears them (they fail miserably)*
Cicero stands up, with his familiar morose expression
"Surely, Decimus Cornelius Scipio, you may be mistaken, Legatus Cotta is an honest man, I have campaigned with him in his time under Consul Asina, there is little doubt. But the argument on who had pulled the body of Consul Asina away from the barbarians saddens me; why would any person who respects the consul claim glory or slander another over his death? We should halt discussion on who had saved the late Consul."
his tone changes
"As for the islands of Sardinia and Corsica, I think they're merely backwater regions, their thick forests, hilly terrain is neither good for farming nor easy to maintain order; it would probably cost more denarii than it produces to maintain it, and therefore should not be attacked, for now."
"Though the legislation did not mention an attack on the city of Carthage, bringing that up is rather irrelevant, our main topic is whether should Sicilia be taken over, which I believe you agree with me that it should. If we do not wish for a prolonged war with Carthage, perhaps:
OOC: I shall revert to OOC for this part, because I think it's hard to phrase what I am about to say IC. We attack/take over Messena, then Syracuse, and also win major victories over some of their field armies on sicily, by that time, it would probably be the next Congressional session, so someone passes an edict like "make peace with the Carthaginians and annex the island of Sicily (and/or corsica and sardinia)", which could be FD'ed according to the rules.
could be done"
*Deciumus makes his reply*
First, I did not mention a attack on Carthrage. I should have made that clearer. Carthrage is the embodiment of everything poeni, when I said carthrage I meant in general all the forces they control. Just like in theyre senate, when they are discussing attacks upon us. Which no doubt they are, they mention Rome not meaning literally Rome, but the embodiment of rome, our soldiers and land holdings.
I drop the proposal to Corisica/Sardinia.
very well, but in that case, Edict 3.3 clearly stated war with Carthage, and her holdings in Sicilia.
And you have brought up a rather interesting point, Carthage's own senate or council, or whatever name they might call themselves may also be discussing attacks on our lands this moment; we must be decisive, deliberations and arguments here only delay time, allowing the enemy to strike quick and leave our forces crippled.
Deliberations and arguements are the cornerstone of any republic. We must never censor our words, for we will become no better then the Estruscans. While I may disagree with Cotta, his arguemensts are just as valid as mine, even if it is inspired possibly by outsiders.Quote:
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Cotta stands again.
Thnak you, Senators. I am not really sure what basis these allegations against me have, but never would I consider or have considered taking money from a foreign power to protect their interests. I am an honest Roman and a believer in her power. I am not sure why I can be accused of being on Carthage's payroll.
And also, there were numerious witnesses that relayed to the Dictator and the Senate of how I personally waded into the fight to claim Asina's body; not in any attempt to cement my own glory or to further my career, but because I could not stand by and simply watch my great commander and comrade taken down. In case you have forgotten, I was awarded the Corona Civica for my actions-a truely esteemed award I had no wish for at the time of the assault.
I feel it was necessary to defend myself against these accusations, and hope this need go no further.
"Decimus Cornelius Scipio!..."Heres Blasio speaks..."I was at that horrific battle, and I awarded Legatus Cotta his Corona Civica personally! You mind your tongue when you speak to a young man I would bid my life on. At the moment, he may be the most honored man in this curia, aside from our honored dictator who has striven to expand this republic. Legatus Cotta let no man tell you of your valor in that siege. Consul Asina gave his life in taking of another, and Legatus Cotta risked his life in saving of a good friend. And I declare it here and now...no man will ever speak once more of rumor and nonsense of Legatus Cotta's actions, for we who stood there on that bloody day know the truth!"
"Yes...let no more be heard of this matter"
Cotta rises again, a smile on his face
I thank Heres Blasio for his honesty, loyalty and justice. Let no one doubt his word in Rome.
Heres Blasio nods...he knows no more words are needed on that issue
"Let us drift from any more bickering, their are matters at hand. I wished to give leadership of Legio III to Legatus Servivs Longvs(OOC:Potocello), as he is next in line for a command post, but he has not yet excepted the offer so we must deal with this soon."
I will depart for the Campvs Martivs to relay this information to the masses, sir.
Cotta rises and walks briskly from the Curia.
Cicero abruptly rises
"I had just remembered that nobody has been assigned or elected to serve as consuls this term. Heres, who are to take up the positions?"