Seems like you had no bad experiences for L4D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
If it is because of E:TW, then blame CA for releasing a bad game, not Steam.
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Seems like you had no bad experiences for L4D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
If it is because of E:TW, then blame CA for releasing a bad game, not Steam.
No, I just breathe deep and close my eyes until the game has actually loaded. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
ETW? Eww. I take that as a significant insult. The last CA game I actually really played was MTW-VI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
the console reviews of MW2 are amazing.
the PC reviews, not so much.
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Originally Posted by Subotan
SC? NC i believe you mean. and if its a show....than i dont think so. i just thought the vid was hilarious.
and i too harbor a deep, eternal hatred for steam. for the release of ETW. it is not the game itself i hate (I like it, especially modded) but how the release and patches and auto-patch goes. it means if i want to play a mod, i have to re-copy-paste all the data back into the folder. and hope it works. and then once i exit, i get to do it again if i want to play more.
back ontopic guys!!!
so, i just read the story online; sounds pretty boring:
*WARNING!!! HUGE SPOILER TO FOLLOW!!!*
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
not. overused. at all. russia and us have a misunderstanding and then have a massive war. never seen that.
note my over-use of sarcasm. ill get it in the bargain bin in a few months.
story-aside, with the same engine and ability to use an AC-130, and weapons besides just american and terrorist, id say its better multiplayer wise than CoD4 on the consoles. still, ill just keep my nazi zombies and PPSH's for another year.
Apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prussian Iron
Um. That has never happened to me, and I've used plenty of mods (Goldeneye Source FTW)Quote:
Originally Posted by Prussian Iron
no more steam talk please, unless it is specifically related to the release of CoD MW2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
So why did they make a deal to use Steam? Apart from Steam, Valve are awesome, and it doesn't make sense to via Steam to give money to another game making company (Vale, the company that owns Steam). Unless, from Steam, IF get more money, as they get to bypass shops such as Amazon, GAME etc, because they can sell their products through Steam?
ummm.........
maybe so they had to put minimal effort into the PC multiplayer, and just let steam take the fall for the lack of reliable multiplayer, like with ETW.
That isn't really how it works. Steam is a distribution system combined with a bit of social networking. The MP servers are unrelated to Steam, and that's common knowledge.
oh.......well..................Quote:
Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
To the Secret Vault to evade being wrong!
Exactly, Steam is like Last.fm for gamers, except Steam does updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
That doesn't make any sense. Apart from the fact that Steam is run by a company called Valve, who have numerous times over proved their ability to use Steam in MP, (TF2 Anyone? Counterstrike?), MP in COD was developed by IF rather than "Steam", so a bad MP would leave IF liable.Quote:
maybe so they had to put minimal effort into the PC multiplayer, and just let Steam take the fall for the lack of reliable multiplayer, like with ETW.
my buddy got it today, and we played a little.
i have to say, it is just as i expected. a carbon copy of CoD4 and 5 with new guns and different places. even more than half the dialogue in the tutorial mission is the same lines as in cod 4's.
Are you curious as to what boycotters of MW2 are playing right now? Rock Paper Shotgun was, and the pic found its way to Kotaku.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...8035395841.jpg
Epic boycott fail.
To be fair, most of them probably joined just to see what was happening. The lesson being re-learned today is that internet boycotts are silly.
Okay I just finished the SP in four hours (MW2).
My opinion on SP;
The first three hours are quite brilliant. I read somewhere that they have cut out all the 'filler' shooting bits and made it all highly intense. And it was. Obviously the series has taken a nosedive from the slight reality of the first four Call of Duty's, and it feels like an action movie then a war FPS, but its still a magnificent ride worth playing (Even just a weekend rent is enough).
Sometimes the SP felt like it was showing off all the new stuff for MP. Especially the American missions. The Gulag mission was incredibly amazing and the first Cliffhanger snow mission was superb, and some moments are memorable.
But when I really started to get into the plot (Yeah, it was really cliche, but it was still done well) it got really, really unbelieveable; in a bad way. I don't want to give too much away for those who will play it; but basiclly it ditches the old CoD formula and goes James Bond-style.
And a horrible, horrible ending.
MP returns, and its updated and improved from the last game (CoD4). It has titles, embelms, more ingame achivements, and a lot of stuff which makes it fun, but I really miss the 64 player game, or even 32 players. Haven't entered any grenade festivals yet, and the new Killstreaks are fun and well implemented.
I honestly think the best part about this game is the Spec Ops mode. Me and a mate have been churning through it and its really. Its not coop like WaW, but you get singular missions which are unique to Spec Ops. If you've beena round the gaming world for the past few years you've surely heard of the AC - 130 gunship mission in CoD 4; well you can replay that in Spec Ops but instead your covering a friend on the ground who has to race to a finish line. After moments of said friend blowing you up with the 105 mm cannon it is really fun.
The only downside is the poor Internet connection we both have so its lags a lot sometimes; and the frustration some hard missions cause.
Thats my opinion. I was excited about MW2, and I will be hanging onto it mainly just to experiment with MP a bit more and wait for the DLC for Spec Ops. SP can hide away for another year. I am interested in the next CoD to see where Treayarch heads for (I am one of the freaks who enjoyed WaW!). Not the game of the decade but a fun game.
Edit: I forgot to mention, some of the plot doesn't add up at all.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
unfortunately, the majority of players lack the will to boycott such an anticipated game. i probably wont buy it...ever, but i know if someone said "Everyone, let's boycott CoD WaW until they give us a new free zombie map!" I would start off playing Bioshock for maybe a week, get back into battlefield bad company, and then lose my willpower. and guess what. i dont have any fortify willpower potions (if youve played morrowind or oblivion you know). and id go back to WaW.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
spoiler'd for length.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warluster
i agree that MP is still great, but think of why it is: it is the same engine running in CoD 4 and WaW. i do adore the customizable kill streaks, and ninja deathstreak is useful if youre goin against like an uber team. i just simply cannot get over the fact that they made each kill 100 points instead of 10 (5 in FFA) like in the last 2 games. it throws me off.
I'll rent it this weekend and try out the SP. hopefully i'll be surprised. and regarding the plot, refer to this post:
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not. overused. at all. russia and us have a misunderstanding and then have a massive war. never seen that.
note my over-use of sarcasm.
unfortunately, the majority of players lack the will to boycott such an anticipated game. i probably wont buy it...ever, but i know if someone said "Everyone, let's boycott CoD WaW until they give us a new free zombie map!" I would start off playing Bioshock for maybe a week, get back into battlefield bad company, and then lose my willpower. and guess what. i dont have any fortify willpower potions (if youve played morrowind or oblivion you know). and id go back to WaW.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
spoiler'd for length.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warluster
i agree that MP is still great, but think of why it is: it is the same engine running in CoD 4 and WaW. i do adore the customizable kill streaks, and ninja deathstreak is useful if youre goin against like an uber team. i just simply cannot get over the fact that they made each kill 100 points instead of 10 (5 in FFA) like in the last 2 games. it throws me off.
I'll rent it this weekend and try out the SP. hopefully i'll be surprised. and regarding the plot, refer to this post:
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not. overused. at all. russia and us have a misunderstanding and then have a massive war. never seen that.
note my over-use of sarcasm.
Ok. So I tried it at a friend's place.
Finished the SP in just under 3 hours on Hardened. Was decent, some good play at the start, then it trails off. Very short.
MP. Arcade game much? I dislike how matches aren't auto-balanced, and you can't switch teams. I dislike most of the guns. I want to shoot whoever thought it was a good idea to allow double P90. What on earth were they thinking!?!
All-round. This game gets a massive meh from me.
Lastly. I loved this. Official reviewer gives it 9.5. The general public gives it 1.9 (975ish votes).
I saw this about MW2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudC...layer_embedded
How was that even possible?
The single player felt like a step down from MW1. They got rid of endless enemies, which was nice, but instead had a finite number of enemies who spawn behind you. Big improvement.
The fighting in American suburbs was neat, though more for the setting than technical reasons. In contrast, a lot of the British missions felt gimmicky. The "race to the end" with the snowmobiles and boats were annoying instead of cinematic (and the auto-kill-anything-in-front-of-you guns were silly). It was also getting a bit silly the number of times you were shot in the stomach by people who had just rescued you.
And the plot holes are big enough to fly an AC-130 through. The first one required some real suspension of disbelief but this was ridiculous.
Not playing MP.
thats.....stupid. hilarious, but stupid. why do thye have throwing knives anyway? do you have any idea how hard it is to hit something accurately with a throwing knife? apparently every soldier, terrorrist and "Militia" (that was his team i think) is adept at throwing knives. real realistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
what i liked about the plot of the first one was that it was simple, and with the exception of that many soldiers dying when a confirmed nuclear threat is present for a while, realistic. but a general killing members of a multi-national task force simply to make himself a hero in the upcoming war?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
thats an idiotic thought, in the modern west at least. as is russia invading washington DC. think about the logistics:
you have to ship all those tanks, vehicles, and troops (because no invasion would dare use only infantry, and transporting that much would be resource-wasting with planes) from the Black sea or the North sea, through the hellespont, out of the meditteranean, out the pillars of hercules, and across the atlantic. one would expect the (obviously unlikely; you dont start a huge war like that over 1 american, who is disguised as a russian terrorist. at least not after lots of deliberation) russian invasion to cross from Siberia to Alaska, and all along the west coast, taking only a day or 2 at most to get ready-to-deploy troops into california. than, if it is going well enough, using ICBM's and paratroopers against DC and other east coast cities.
does anyone else agree?
Though realistic compared to games where you fire your machine gun at them, and they are still running about fullspeed and not dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
??? what game is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
On the snowmobiles/rubber boats you hold the gun sideways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
That's nothing. Not sure if it's a bug or something but I've been in a couple of games where the enemies had up to three air support kill streaks in at once. There was a helicopter, a Harrier jump jet hovering about and then to top it of an AC 130 flying above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
That knife was pretty ridiculous though, didn't even know they could curve myself..
didn't you hear? apparently, you are an undercover gangster from LA, and you are trying to get DC destroyed to eliminate some west coast rivals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
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Originally Posted by Beskar
This is all over the internet. Apparently the guy who did it says he thought he was throwing a grenade at first and had completely forgot he had knives in his load-out. Listening to the reactions, however, makes it priceless. "That's :daisy: !" :laugh4::laugh4:
LOL what are the odds of that
my buddy had that happen to him today too; only it was square into his nose and it was just a long-distance non-obstructed street.
but, after playing MW2 MP, and playing MW1 MP, I'm having infinitely more fun with MW1. but I also liked MW1's MP more than WaW's; it was pretty perfect with the exception of the lack of many foreign guns.
p.s.: just got the MP-44 (STG-44) on MW1. im lovin it!!!
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Originally Posted by Prussian Iron
I can't see the diffrence between the two games. The only difference between the two is that the player amount is limited and there are no dedicated servers. Is that really that much of a negative to stop people playing the multiplayer?
From the several hours I've spent they've added some really good positives; more guns, more levels, more maps and more of the smaller additions like more killstreaks, or titles, etc.
Has anyone on this forum actually got MW2 and playing it? I'll add you on Steam and verus on MP or complete some Spec Ops missions. Heard there was a .Org Steam User Group, where could I find that? :book:
im talking about PS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warluster
and i despise some of the kill streaks. it is so annoying when people place those turret miniguns. i have no trouble with them, but my buddies always get torn up. i like the AC-130 and the fact that you can control helis, but you can have all at once, making it totally unfair.
one time, the enemy team had the harrier, pave low (uber helicopter), normal helicopter, a helicopter gunner, an AC-130, and a stealth bomber all at once. then i got nuked.
obviously this is a 1-in-a-million chance, but i dont think its fair to have that much. i would have left out the Harriers and the Pave Low. the other killstreak perks are pretty balanced as it is.
one of the thing i hate about it is the new blood splatter. the red edges in previous games weren't enough apparently, so we needed to be blinded. even if you're shot in the foot, your vision still becomes covered with blood. dont like it. everyone agrees with me on that.
honestly, i probably would buy it if they had a "Ultra-Nationalist Zombies" or something as a sequel to nazi zombies. thats pretty much all i do in WaW anyway, unless more than 1 friend is over.
Unless it's different on PS3 then I don't believe that. On xbox you can only have 2/3 (not sure which) helicopters/planes in the air at once, and only one of each type. And I don't agree with you on the blood splat either, it only impairs your vision when you are very close to death, at which point you wil either die anyway or have to and hide for a bit so you don't really need to see. I think the balance is pretty good overall though I do admit that the killstreaks can get a bit much, once you have one it get enough kills for the next two on it's own and then yeah, everone dies.
ive now seen someone use the nuke:
not as impressive as i thought. awesome, but i hoped that it would:
show like a bomber, or an ICBM coming from above, than you watch in slow-motion, while an audible, very slow heartbeat pumps, and you see the green and yellow markings, and for a split-second, you see "NUKE" on the side....and then it impacts, and the mapflares out, while the explosion emenates and engulfs all the players, sending everyone flying into the nearest solid object, and than crawling, dying after 15 seconds
that would be truly epic.
Pretty much done with this game.
Gets boring quick if you play by yourself, never really got fun, just made me really really angry..
okay, I finally broke down and got the game on Xbox. its pretty standard with the last 3. I do like the more variety and cooler guns and attachments.
i mean, i liked the last 2, and you get used to the blood splatter. if you like the last 1 or 2 or modern warfare 1, youll like this.
the special ops is where the game really shines though. my dad and i spent like an hour just doing the AC-130 mission on veteran, and it was well worth it. well probably do it more tomorrow. the new 55 inch HD TV helps too :P
You mean you had it on PC, then you bought it on Xbox?
:dizzy2:
I find it ridiculously overpriced when in 6 months it's going to be at least half the price.
60 euros for an improvement over MW1? No thanks. At least not now.
??? where did i say that? i played it on my buddies ps3 for a while, than got it on the xbox after getting a 55 inch, HDTV with 1080P and surround sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
BTW: get stars quick in special ops and repeatedly do the AC-130 mission. it is the funnest spec-ops ever.
Oh right, my bad, sorry.