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Why is it wrong to have hairy armpits? Most people are born with hairy armpits, why hate yourself?
I shave my face but I'm not running around saying people with beards are barbarians.
Even though I'm proud to be an unshaved hairy barbarian, "we" conquered Rome being that. :disguise: :knight: :disguise:

I'm absolutely not into promiscuous women either, I like to feel special, not like one of a hundred guys she's had. Yes, I'm selfish like that. :laugh4:

Oh and, that reminds me that your armpits produce pheromones, sweating more underneath there can only be a good thing. :eyebrows:
Reminds me to change my user title back to "Pharaoh Pheromones". :egypt:

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

The days of 'no sex please, we're British' are well and truly behind us. The British are now the most promiscuous of all industrial nations. And British women even more so than men. (I do wonder how that works. Lesbianism? Foreign men (:jumping:) ?)
But probably what's meant is that a greater number of women have a promiscuous lifestyle than men. That is, there a few Kadagar Ubermen who do all the work.

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Can anyone actually explain this? (Sorry to derail the thread, but the problem has been bothering me for some time.)
Sexual partners is the easiest way to do this but really it's a question of averages. How can women have a higher (or lower, I forget what the actual figure is) number of average sexual partners than men? Assuming the two populations are equal and same-sex intercourse isn't recorded, every instance of sexual intercourse would add to the average for both sexes, even if it is only a minority of women sleeping with most of the men? Does anyone understand the point I am (poorly) trying to make?

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Can anyone actually explain this? (Sorry to derail the thread, but the problem has been bothering me for some time.)
Sexual partners is the easiest way to do this but really it's a question of averages. How can women have a higher (or lower, I forget what the actual figure is) number of average sexual partners than men? Assuming the two populations are equal and same-sex intercourse isn't recorded, every instance of sexual intercourse would add to the average for both sexes, even if it is only a minority of women sleeping with most of the men? Does anyone understand the point I am (poorly) trying to make?

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I think it's because the only way they use to find out is not spying in peoples' bedrooms but asking them, maybe women are more honest then, or they exaggerate more.

So, theoretically the averages should be the same? I looked some figures up online (lost the link): in the UK, heterosexual men have an average of 16 female sexual partners while heterosexual women have an average of 15 male partners. So, the only causes for the disparity would be foreign partners (outside of the tested population) and dishonesty?

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

The days of 'no sex please, we're British' are well and truly behind us. The British are now the most promiscuous of all industrial nations. And British women even more so than men. (I do wonder how that works. Lesbianism? Foreign men (:jumping:) ?)
But probably what's meant is that a greater number of women have a promiscuous lifestyle than men. That is, there a few Kadagar Ubermen who do all the work.

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Note the researcher says that in "more liberal countries such as Britain women may even be becoming more promiscuous than men", ie this is his opinion on what might happen in the future, not what the situation is like right now.

I really don't believe women are more promiscuous the men, from my experience it is pretty much even.

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Originally Posted by Husar

or they exaggerate more.

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We don't need to exaggerate about how many sexual partners we have.

If a man sleeps with alot of women, he's applauded for it and called "stud" or "player". If a woman sleeps with alot of men, she is a "slut" or "skank" or whatnot. Why would we exaggerate only to be plastered with such titles from men and women alike?

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Originally Posted by bobbin

I really don't believe women are more promiscuous the men, from my experience it is pretty much even.

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While I hate to make generalisations, if you go out to a nightclub, check out the women-men ratio; in the average club in Manchester, you're probably looking at two men to every woman, or thereabouts. Men seem to do, say and buy anything in order to keep a girl talking to them and not their friends or other guys. Women do not do this, we're fine with letting you come to us.

If we really want it, we could simply go out, click our fingers and someone would come running. Men have to work alot harder for their kicks, so there's likely a point where they simply throw in the towel and go home with the Heathers rather than the Kellys. We're alot more selective than that. :P

I knew a guy back in university who used to say that once he had made his way through what he called "the notties", he would only be left with the attractive women; he believed that having his way with "notties" was better than not getting any whatsoever, so he'd make a point of sleeping with anything he could. I'm not saying all men are like this... but I do think they're generally more promiscuous than women.

clubs are the bane of youth, stay away

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Originally Posted by Secura

We don't need to exaggerate about how many sexual partners we have.

If a man sleeps with alot of women, he's applauded for it and called "stud" or "player". If a woman sleeps with alot of men, she is a "slut" or "skank" or whatnot. Why would we exaggerate only to be plastered with such titles from men and women alike?

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Because the questions were probably asked anonymously. I still don't know why women would exaggerate then but it was an idea. :laugh4:
You also forgot to mention to the word chav, that you used earlier to describe women on pictures you posted and subsequently rated based solely on their looks. ~;)

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Originally Posted by Husar

You also forgot to mention to the word chav, that you used earlier to describe women on pictures you posted and subsequently rated based solely on their looks. ~;)

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Well, I wouldn't 'rate' anyone based on their appearances, male or female... it's their personalities and brains that would attract me or put me off, and I honestly don't find anything attractive about chavvy men or women. Check Wikipedia or the rest of the 'net if if you wish for information on them... the closest comparison I can think of is trailer park white trash in the US.

I'd hoped that the pictures (a chavvy mother smoking while heavily pregnant?, drunken 13/14 year olds?) could convey that sorta thing to you better than words could. :P

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Well, I wouldn't 'rate' anyone based on their appearances, male or female... it's their personalities and brains that would attract me or put me off, and I honestly don't find anything attractive about chavvy men or women. Check Wikipedia or the rest of the 'net if if you wish for information on them... the closest comparison I can think of is trailer park white trash in the US.

I'd hoped that the pictures (a chavvy mother smoking while heavily pregnant?, drunken 13/14 year olds?) could convey that sorta thing to you better than words could. :P

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is a chav basically british slang for slut. Personally girls like that arent very attractive because beign dirty, looking like a racoon, and 24/7 beer breath arent personal turn ons

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is a chav basically british slang for slut

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Not really, because the term also applies to men; see this guy or this bunch.

The word is used to describe what's quite like a social class of it's own. They're like... the scummiest of the scum.

I'd rather sit down and have a drink & chat with a homeless person than a chav; at least with the homeless person I'd hear about something other than fake designer clothes, how many "birds" they've "shagged" or getting girls pregnant at fifteen and then claiming benefits for the rest of their life.

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Not really, because the term also applies to men; see this guy or this bunch.

The word is used to describe what's quite like a social class of it's own. They're like... the scummiest of the scum.

I'd rather sit down and have a drink & chat with a homeless person than a chav; at least with the homeless person I'd hear about something other than fake designer clothes, how many "birds" they've "shagged" or getting girls pregnant at fifteen and then claiming benefits for the rest of their life.

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ah so they are just trash then. well thats pleasant.

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Originally Posted by Secura

We don't need to exaggerate about how many sexual partners we have.

If a man sleeps with alot of women, he's applauded for it and called "stud" or "player". If a woman sleeps with alot of men, she is a "slut" or "skank"

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Oi! It's not the men in this thread who portrayed liberated women as skanks! :balloon2:

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Yeah, me too. I only know a few girls (single figures) who could be counted as promiscuous.

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I only know a few girls (single figures) who could be counted as not promiscuous.

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Well, I wouldn't 'rate' anyone based on their appearances, male or female... it's their personalities and brains that would attract me or put me off, and I honestly don't find anything attractive about chavvy men or women. Check Wikipedia or the rest of the 'net if if you wish for information on them... the closest comparison I can think of is trailer park white trash in the US.

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So calling someone trash is not rating them? :inquisitive:
You even followed up with "scum" and "lowest class"...
That's not to say I disagree but I wanted to show you that you use such ratings as well and it's not just others using them on you or women in general.

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So calling someone trash is not rating them? :inquisitive:

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I misunderstood what you meant by "rate", I apologise. You mean judging them, right?

I guess that I do this quite alot; if I see a group of chavvy-looking youths loitering around somewhere, I'll cross over the road without a second thought. It's probably a form of prejudice, judging them all to be bad news without even knowing them... but I've been in trouble with these types of people before and wouldn't want to risk doing so again.

I apologise for the major thread derailment, by the way. Didn't mean to turn the thread into a critique of British society. xD

People are too harsh in judging anyone that looks remotely chav-like. When I was younger I used to wear the whole tracksuit thing (facepalm, I know), I still always wear tracksuit bottoms over jeans, just because it's the norm where I live.

That's just how people dress in lower-class areas, well at least in the west coast of Scotland anyway. Doesn't mean they're all loud-mouthed thugs. And tbh, they look quite a bit different from those English chavs anyway, I've never seen any of the whole bling-thing up here.

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People are too harsh in judging anyone that looks remotely chav-like. When I was younger I used to wear the whole tracksuit thing (facepalm, I know), I still always wear tracksuit bottoms over jeans, just because it's the norm where I live.

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It isn't about the way they dress or anything; I wear tracksuit bottoms if I'm going for a run, nothing wrong with that. :P

It's more... their lifestyle and their attitudes that I disagree with. Getting on buses and playing their music without headphones/smoking at the back, being rude to people three or four times their age, being aggressive if you so much as look in their direction (that's more the women in my case, though)... I'm not saying that they're all like this, just that this is how I see them all because of the bad encounters I have had with them, both in my hometown and at university. :<

You get chavs at university?

I think this might cause part of the confusion... there is a difference between the chav/ned look you get in lower-class areas, and then this whole chav culture you get with rich kids spending triple figures on tracksuits and acting like ****'s becuase they wish they were black and it's the closest thing they can get to being gangsta.

I know when I was at university I spent 3 figure sums on tracksuits. And of course by that I mean 3 figures in terms of pence. Not for any fashion statement or wish to be part of a cultural grouping, simply because cheap clothes meant I had more money to spend on alcohol to get drunk and attempt to get female students out of their equally cheap and nasty tracksuits.

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Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

You get chavs at university?

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Dunno, you might do; never saw any on campus myself, but that doesn't mean they're not around! :P

I meant that when I would go into Piccadilly, Deansgate or indeed most places off MMU's campus, I'd see chavs, acting similar to how they did back home. I should have said "at my university city", really, would have made more sense. :3

wow british culture sounds like a poor rip off of american gangsta's/mafia.

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Originally Posted by Secura

I misunderstood what you meant by "rate", I apologise. You mean judging them, right?

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Yes, no problem.

Sometimes I want to beat up those subway-smokers, too, although some of them look like they could easily reverse the situation...
And to get back on the subject, smoking in the subway is not manly at all, if you want to smoke a fag, do it in private, some people are so desperately in need of one, they already start on the escalator, it's not only annoying, it also shows they are enslaved by those little round sticks...

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

wow british culture sounds like a poor rip off of american gangsta's/mafia.

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That's only the upper echelons of British youth culture. The more culturally backward only worry about having/fathering a child as soon as possible and getting all the necessary information on what benefits they are entitled to, and what they aren't entitled to but can get anyway if they nag their doctor enough.

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That's only the upper echelons of British youth culture. The more culturally backward only worry about having/fathering a child as soon as possible and getting all the necessary information on what benefits they are entitled to, and what they aren't entitled to but can get anyway if they nag their doctor enough.

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they say Britians our cousins but i think we must be long lost identical twins :wink:

All I know about Britain is what I have seen on the internetz during my breaks between ME2 breakthroughs. To the best of my knowledge you guys love your socialism, your soccer and you guys actually go after bad executive branch leaders suspected of misleading the public.

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http://tmcq.co.uk/pictures/chav5.jpg

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Hehe, that girl on the left sort of looks horse-ish. The long face, eyes put strangely on the face, the shorter hair, and the teeth. The one on the right isn't entirely that bad, though... Gets me thinking: if the only way I could have the girl on the right was to take her at the same time as the funneh girl on the left, I think I'd do it. Maybe, I think. A few drinks would certainly decide it, anyways.

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Hehe, that girl on the left sort of looks horse-ish. The long face, eyes put strangely on the face, the shorter hair, and the teeth. The one on the right isn't entirely that bad, though... Gets me thinking: if the only way I could have the girl on the right was to take her at the same time as the funneh girl on the left, I think I'd do it. Maybe, I think. A few drinks would certainly decide it, anyways.

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Trying desperately to fit into several stereotypes, are you? :inquisitive:

Without there class the British are really just ugly Americans, pity it's come to that.

So Hooah what happend have you tried to talking to her yet?

With some more class Americans would know it's 'their' ;)

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With some more class Americans would know it's 'their' ;)

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Well when you speak 7 languages it's hard to keep these things straight.

Especially in Texas. And I never said I speak them I said I could screw up. As you just did.

It is there <-directional
It is theirs <-possesive

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Especially in Texas. And I never said I speak them I said I could screw up. As you just did.

It is there <-directional
It is theirs <-possesive

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Im just busting your chops.

You'll always be my favorite tulip

Thx, if I would ever want to live in a desert Texas will always be my first choice

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Thx, if I would ever want to live in a desert Texas will always be my first choice

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https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/79...illcountry.jpg

What am I supposed to look at, there is something blocking the view. Find a better angle.

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https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/79...illcountry.jpg

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Whoa, and I expected it to be a dry desert down there. Never knew it could get so wet.

Which, incidentally, is the same as what I said to Heather last night. Bringing us nicely back to the topic of this thread: yo Hooah, what's up buddy? Keep us up to speed!

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Originally Posted by Azathoth

Everyone knows that Czech women are the most attractive.

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i have to tell you that the Czech Republic isn't even in the running, the award to sexiest woman is a dead heat between slovenia, finland and poland.

Slavic women are very pretty indeed

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Which is the same as what I said to Heather last night.

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Tsk tsk tsk.

Did you lick her yoghurt pot lid? Seriously, you should watch that link, Harry Hill is pretty funny. :3

I'm going to wipe all the posts about chavs from my memory and keep this as my image of England:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQWP...eature=related

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i have to tell you that the Czech Republic isn't even in the running, the award to sexiest woman is a dead heat between slovenia, finland and poland.

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I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, but i find the Western Europeans ´spesically French women on many occasions lot more fascinating then ours up here in North atleast.

I am, sorry to generalise, not all that fond of Eastern European women. Too much make-up, too short a skirts. In general not usually my type.


French women are awesome.
Even more striking, they really come into their own when they age. Or rather, when they 'ripe', like a good wine showing its true class by only improving astime goes by. They age beautifully and gracefully.

Catherine Deneuve *drool* :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AFN...eature=related

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, but i find the Western Europeans ´spesically French women on many occasions lot more fascinating then ours up here in North atleast.

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He said between that means you are right above it.

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Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

You get chavs at university?

I think this might cause part of the confusion... there is a difference between the chav/ned look you get in lower-class areas, and then this whole chav culture you get with rich kids spending triple figures on tracksuits and acting like ****'s becuase they wish they were black and it's the closest thing they can get to being gangsta.

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Ah, Rars. The bane of my existence, men that dress like slobs and women who dote on men who dress like slobs. Home Counties breeding required.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

I only know a few girls (single figures) who could be counted as not promiscuous.

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Really? Maybe I'm naturally selective of my female friends; I seem to pick Christians out the way some men tag NVPL. Maybe our definition of promiscuous is different. I mean women who are monogomous and don't generally but out until some time after the 3rd date line.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

clubs are the bane of youth, stay away

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Indeed. Overpriced drinks, generally bad music (mostly because the DJ is rubbish), too loud to talk.

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Originally Posted by Husar

Trying desperately to fit into several stereotypes, are you? :inquisitive:

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Do you look kinda horse-ish too, German? :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Really? Maybe I'm naturally selective of my female friends; I seem to pick Christians out the way some men tag NVPL. Maybe our definition of promiscuous is different. I mean women who are monogomous and don't generally but out until some time after the 3rd date line.

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That is kind of promiscuous (what do you mean by 3rd date?), though my female friends are in relationships so they wouldn't be around other people doing that anyway. I also was counting people I weren't friends with.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

It is there <-directional
It is theirs <-possesive

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I'm so proud of you! *wipes away tears*

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Do you look kinda horse-ish too, German? :laugh4:

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I don't look horse-radish, I look more sauerkrautish.

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I don't look horse-radish, I look more sauerkrautish.

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Hehe. But srsly, that girl looks like a horse! At first I thought she ressembled a chipmunk, but no, she's far closer to a horse than that.

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, but i find the Western Europeans ´spesically French women on many occasions lot more fascinating then ours up here in North atleast.

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a few years back i made it a mssion to hop over as many various 'fences' as i could find, and i found quite a lot! regardless, my conclusion was that finns poles and slovenians are the hottest women around, although in deference to Louis's opinion i must admit that i have never mounted a french 'fence'. :p

trick is to kick in the gate

You use your foot? That's what I've been doing wrong all these years.

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a few years back i made it a mssion to hop over as many various 'fences' as i could find, and i found quite a lot! regardless, my conclusion was that finns poles and slovenians are the hottest women around, although in deference to Louis's opinion i must admit that i have never mounted a french 'fence'. :p

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My father gave me a huge lecture on Finnish women during the bronze medal game in hockey at vancouver. He sounded appreciative. And he did marry a slav so that must mean something, right :wink:

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a few years back i made it a mssion to hop over as many various 'fences' as i could find, and i found quite a lot! regardless, my conclusion was that finns poles and slovenians are the hottest women around, although in deference to Louis's opinion i must admit that i have never mounted a french 'fence'. :p

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Now that I think about it, I never managed an Englishwoman. All of them*, without exception, turned out to be Scottish.

Lovely lasses, great times.


*Trying to maintain my image of manly awesomeness, it's only in the small print that you find out 'all of them' does not denote a massive amount, but merely two.

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*Trying to maintain my image of manly awesomeness, it's only in the small print that you find out 'all of them' does not denote a massive amount, but merely two.

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thats not bad for a single ethnicity.

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a few years back i made it a mssion to hop over as many various 'fences' as i could find, and i found quite a lot! regardless, my conclusion was that finns poles and slovenians are the hottest women around, although in deference to Louis's opinion i must admit that i have never mounted a french 'fence'. :p

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Ofcourse these are matter of taste that can and should be talked to no ends, but in the end it is great that we dont have all the same preferences when it comes to the lovely beings women are.:painting:

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Now that I think about it, I never managed an Englishwoman. All of them*, without exception, turned out to be Scottish.

Lovely lasses, great times.

*Trying to maintain my image of manly awesomeness, it's only in the small print that you find out 'all of them' does not denote a massive amount, but merely two.

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>respectfully ignoring the small-print<

i should point out that i am acquainted with several french woman, all of them lovely, so i recognise that it is my loss that no fences have been leapt in that direction.

my only Scottish girl was ethnically Chinese, and seeing as ethnicity was the name of the game she doesn't count as bonny-highland-lass. lovely girl, great times.*


*until she went loopy and tried to take a £5,000 loan in my name.

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...until she went loopy and tried to take a £5,000 loan in my name.

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Then you broke up and become a loner? ~D

So, despite saying that English women are the most promiscuous, none of you have actually been with one?

It appears that you have all found your Everests, then. :>

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That is kind of promiscuous (what do you mean by 3rd date?)

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He means that on the third date, he'll try to get his leg over. Or that the girl he's been dating will put out. One or the other. :P

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Then you broke up and become a loner? ~D

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nah, i just continued with my mission to frank as many exotic women as possible. :D

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That is kind of promiscuous (what do you mean by 3rd date?), though my female friends are in relationships so they wouldn't be around other people doing that anyway. I also was counting people I weren't friends with.

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So they're promiscuous in relationships?

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Originally Posted by Secura

He means that on the third date, he'll try to get his leg over. Or that the girl he's been dating will put out. One or the other. :P

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No, "he" means that they don't have sex until after the third date, i.e. they aren't the sort of girls who count down to the third date and then jump into bed like it's a formality. I knew one girl in my first year who would routinely bring men back to halls after she had been out. She was very attractive and quite discerning about her partners (physically at least).

As far as I'm concerned; currently celibate.

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No, "he" means that...

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Hey, there isn't a need for that sort of tone... I forgot your name while quoting Beskie's post, hence 'he'. I also didn't read it correctly, it would seem. I understand what you meant now, at any rate. Sorry if I came across as rude or anything. :/

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As far as I'm concerned; currently celibate.

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If that's entirely through your own choice, it's quite commendable. :3

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nah, i just continued with my mission to frank as many exotic women as possible. :D

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Um, did you miss the pun? Loaner...loner. Ba-da-dum (rimshot). :drummer:

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Um, did you miss the pun? Loaner...loner. Ba-da-dum (rimshot). :drummer:

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i did. :p

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Hey, there isn't a need for that sort of tone... I forgot your name while quoting Beskie's post, hence 'he'. I also didn't read it correctly, it would seem. I understand what you meant now, at any rate. Sorry if I came across as rude or anything. :/

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Well, the term "get his leg over" was personal, which irritated me. Having said that, I was probably oversenestive, sorry for snapping.

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If that's entirely through your own choice, it's quite commendable. :3

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God told me if I ever have sex with a woman I'll go to Hell. *deadpan*.

No, I'm celibate because I have no idea where I'm going to be in six months, I wouldn't have sex with a girl unless we were in a relationship, and I don't like the idea of relationships with expiry dates.

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Well, the term "get his leg over" was personal, which irritated me. Having said that, I was probably oversenestive, sorry for snapping.

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I didn't convey myself in quite the proper tone, so it's understandable that you'd snap, really. Don't worry about it! :3

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I wouldn't have sex with a girl unless we were in a relationship, and I don't like the idea of relationships with expiry dates.

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I don't know many guys that would maintain this sort of stance, but then I generally know alot of d-bags!

Kudos, you have my upmost respect, sir. :bow:

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Originally Posted by Secura

He means that on the third date, he'll try to get his leg over. Or that the girl he's been dating will put out. One or the other. :P

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Is this with a girl the person has basically met for the 4th time in total, or some one they been friends with/known for years?

Aka, random person in a club, met up two other times else where. Leg over?

or, known such a person for 5 years, constant contact, only after 3rd "romantic outing" they do the leg over?

Big difference.

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I didn't convey myself in quite the proper tone, so it's understandable that you'd snap, really. Don't worry about it! :3

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I don't know many guys that would maintain this sort of stance, but then I generally know alot of d-bags!

Kudos, you have my upmost respect, sir. :bow:

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I think that's a shame. I'm not the only one, and you certainly shouldn't aplaud me for something that should be taken for granted.

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Is this with a girl the person has basically met for the 4th time in total, or some one they been friends with/known for years?

Aka, random person in a club, met up two other times else where. Leg over?

or, known such a person for 5 years, constant contact, only after 3rd "romantic outing" they do the leg over?

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Well, it's neither, really.

Meeting someone four times doesn't constitute having sex with them after all. It's simply that after three dates, and all the getting-to-know-you conversation that comes with that, you'll know someone somewhat well enough to decide whether you want to get into a relationship with them and progress to a more intimate stage at some point..

Go back and read what Philipvs (I remembered this time!) typed a few posts back to see what he meant, if what I said doesn't make sense. :3

Would you Brits mind stopping the apologies and exchanges of pleasantries already? The uncivilised world is getting nervous about it.

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Originally Posted by Furunculus

i just continued with my mission to frank as many exotic women as possible.

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Originally Posted by Gregoshi

Ba-da-dum (rimshot). :drummer:

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Oh dear....That's a(n unintended) pun well worthy of a truckload of warning points. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Secura

Well, it's neither, really.

Meeting someone four times doesn't constitute having sex with them after all. It's simply that after three dates, and all the getting-to-know-you conversation that comes with that, you'll know someone somewhat well enough to decide whether you want to get into a relationship with them and progress to a more intimate stage at some point..

Go back and read what Philipvs (I remembered this time!) typed a few posts back to see what he meant, if what I said doesn't make sense. :3

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M-hmmm, yes.

More to the point, there should not be a "line" (3rd date or otherwise) at which point a woman is obliged to well, oblige.

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Would you Brits mind stopping the apologies and exchanges of pleasantries already? The uncivilised world is getting nervous about it.

Oh dear....That's a(n unintended) pun well worthy of a truckload of warning points. :laugh4:

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Could you not just retreat to your sense of cultural superiority and lick your wounds? ;-)

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Ofcourse these are matter of taste that can and should be talked to no ends, but in the end it is great that we dont have all the same preferences when it comes to the lovely beings women are.:painting:

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mwah they all kinda taste the same

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Originally Posted by Fragony

mwah they all kinda taste the same

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I can't be the only one who saw this as an innuendo, surely? :P

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Originally Posted by Secura

I can't be the only one who saw this as an innuendo, surely? :P

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Innuendo? Wot innuendo?

Your dirty mind, says I.



I bet you see all sorts of filthy things in this picure too, eh?


https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3100/rorschachw.jpg

(I know Fragony will see a Danish Muhammed cartoon in it)

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I bet you see all sorts of filthy things in this picure too, eh?

https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3100/rorschachw.jpg

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It looks like a Rorschach on acid. Aside of that, I see nothing. :P

i tohught it looked like a flower, than again im a good little catholic boy.

on that note......

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mwah they all kinda taste the same

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highly debatable sah highly debatable.

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I don't know many guys that would maintain this sort of stance,

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No? It's not that rare arond here, though I do live in a red state so...:juggle2:

In all seriousness, I would never...you know...with anyone that I hadn't known for a farily long time. I'm only 20, so it's not like I've had to wait long, but I'm content to hold out until I find someone I like and trust. And like Philipvs, I'm looking for something long-term (at least I think that's what he meant?). So yeah. Maybe it's not that common in the grand scheme, but we do exist. :sweatdrop:

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No? It's not that rare arond here, though I do live in a red state so...:juggle2:

In all seriousness, I would never...you know...with anyone that I hadn't known for a farily long time. I'm only 20, so it's not like I've had to wait long, but I'm content to hold out until I find someone I like and trust. And like Philipvs, I'm looking for something long-term (at least I think that's what he meant?). So yeah. Maybe it's not that common in the grand scheme, but we do exist. :sweatdrop:

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Well, I am looking for something long term eventually, but what I really meant was that I don't like the idea of a relationship that has to end. In other words, I wouldn't start something if I didn't htink there was long-term potential.