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Some of us have no such confidence issues. ;)
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Originally Posted by
Renata
The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.
I would be surprised if Beskar did kill Husar (whereas I would not be nearly so surprised if White_eyes had). But being upset or annoyed would seem a bit of an overreaction from anyone other than Husar himself, though it might be understandable coming from a mafia partner of whoever did kill him.
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Originally Posted by
Renata
Andres isn't really acting like he's afraid of death. :)
Unofficial vote count:
Andres 5 (white eyes, GH, Khaan, Diana, ATPG)
Beskar 4 (Chaotix, pever*, TinCow, Sasaki)
Sasaki 3 (Kage, Methos, Niklas**)
White_eyes and Lord_Winter are at two votes each. A whole bunch of people at one.
And Ibn abstained. :brood:
The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.
vote: Tincow
Which brings him to 2 as well.
Beskar said it was a low blow to kill a returning or new player immediately and proceeded to vote for Niklas :rolleyes:
what about the wagon on Andres? you like that one? you think there is a good reason for that?
Vote: Renata
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Originally Posted by
Renata
41 votes made, five pages of almost pointless chatter, and all you can come up with is abstain?
I fixed your post.
I do agree with ATPG though. It looks like the killers/Sith apprentices are not droids.
I hope the next night can give some more clues.
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Forgot about Ichigo.
Unvote: Ichigo, Vote: Beskar
Just in case. :wink:
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Originally Posted by
Renata
Andres isn't really acting like he's afraid of death. :)
Unofficial vote count:
Andres 5 (white eyes, GH, Khaan, Diana, ATPG)
Beskar 4 (Chaotix, pever*, TinCow, Sasaki)
Sasaki 3 (Kage, Methos, Niklas**)
White_eyes and Lord_Winter are at two votes each. A whole bunch of people at one.
And Ibn abstained. :brood:
The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.
vote: Tincow
Which brings him to 2 as well.
vote:Beskar seems way scummier than Andres or Sasaki this round, in my opinion.
Also, ATPG, I like your analysis of the writeup, keep that going and don't lock on to something you make up on day 1. Not that you need me to tell you that, of course :laugh4:
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Atheotes has spoken, so unvote:Atheotes. The Beskar rationale given by pevergreen is as good as anything I've seen, so I'll vote:Beskar.
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Originally Posted by
atheotes
Beskar said it was a low blow to kill a returning or new player immediately and proceeded to vote for Niklas :rolleyes:
what about the wagon on Andres? you like that one? you think there is a good reason for that?
Vote: Renata
There is no Andres bandwagon per se. It looks superficially like a collection of one-off votes that happened to add up. Not one of them had a reason attached.
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Originally Posted by
Renata
The Beskar wagon sure has sprung up quickly, didn't it? I don't like it. Convince me that post he made was more likely to come from the person who killed Husar, just to be a jerk, than from someone honestly upset about the situation.
So, you think Beskar was sincerely upset about Husar being killed? Some seem to think he was pretending to be upset :shrug:
Jumping on the new guy right after being "upset" about a N1 kill on a player coming back from retirement doesn't help his credibility. Lynching the new guy round 1 isn't very nice either. It makes Beskar look less sincere.
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Originally Posted by Renata
vote: Tincow
Which brings him to 2 as well.
And the reason for voting TinCow is...?
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Analysis: I find this Beskar bandwagon to be ridiculously bad. You will regret this action like no other in your short pointless lives.
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I think you guys should take a look at this post:
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Originally Posted by
Beskar
I love Sigurd.
What does this mean to you?
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Originally Posted by
Secura
I think you guys should take a look at this post:
Statement: The human with the bad hairstyle is correct. You miserable weaklings sicken me in ways I am not programmed to comprehend.
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Originally Posted by
Secura
What does this mean to you?
Do we really want to know?
Besides, how can somebody say he still loves Sigurd after seeing me? I'm sure Beskar has excellent taste and thus already forgot his love declaration a long time ago after having seen my... qualities :wink:
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Vote: ATPG
I don't like droids.
Also, rule of two has a fairly short timespan and it wasn't ignored during that time, silly pizza.
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Originally Posted by
Andres
Do we really want to know?
Well, considering what I know about that post and why he said that, it is a very bad idea to lynch Beskar.
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I'm sure Beskar has excellent taste and thus already forgot his love declaration a long time ago after having seen my... qualities :wink:
You sound as though you're a Twi'lek... it's going to be funny for me if you're Aayla Secura. xD
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TheFlax
Vote: ATPG
I don't like droids.
Also, rule of two has a fairly short timespan and it wasn't ignored during that time, silly pizza.
Encouraging reply: Perhaps you have caught me in a lie. Would Master be so kind as to deactivate me, before I am forced to kill you in your sleep?
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Originally Posted by
Andres
And the reason for voting TinCow is...?
Scummiest of the four Beskar voters at the time. Chaotix was just a joke. pever has some frame-job theory that doesn't make sense to me much but doesn't strike me as scummy either, sasaki went out and attracted himself attention and votes right off the bat,which buys him a little leeway. That leaves TinCow.
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Originally Posted by
Secura
You sound as though you're a Twi'lek...
Zeltron > Twi'lek
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Originally Posted by
Secura
Well, considering what I know about that post and why he said that, it is a very bad idea to lynch Beskar.
Not impressed.
I don't know what you know so I don't know what you're talking about. I also don't know your source of information, but if it's Beskar, then why would he feel the need to privately claim a pro-town role to you at the very beginning of the game? That makes no sense. And it would be rather foolish because for all he knows, you could be scum.
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Originally Posted by Secura
You sound as though you're a Twi'lek... it's going to be funny for me if you're Aayla Secura. xD
*** smiles mysteriously, then giggles ***
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Originally Posted by
Renata
Scummiest of the four Beskar voters at the time. Chaotix was just a joke. pever has some frame-job theory that doesn't make sense to me much but doesn't strike me as scummy either, sasaki went out and attracted himself attention and votes right off the bat,which buys him a little leeway. That leaves TinCow.
And why is voting Beskar suspicious in itself? Are the reasons for voting Beskar invalid in your opinion? Why does the mafia have to be a player who voted Beskar?
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Amused interjection: Master Andres, it is most unreasonable for you to expect sense from Master Beskar. Now do yourself a favor and reconsider, before I tear the vocal processor from your cranial motivator.
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Originally Posted by
Askthepizzaguy
Amused interjection: Master Andres, it is most unreasonable for you to expect sense from Master Beskar. Now do yourself a favor and reconsider, before I tear the vocal processor from your cranial motivator.
You're just being frustrated because your cold metallic and, might I add, boring, personality makes you immune for the better things in live. You have no clue about how to treat a lady, you barbaric device.
Pfuh.
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Originally Posted by
Andres
You have no clue about how to treat a lady, you barbaric device.
Overly informative statement: I am fully functional, and programmed in multiple techniques. A wide variety of pleasuring.
Clarification: That is, if you take pleasure to mean the emotion I am programmed to experience when removing ugly flesh carcasses from my sight.
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Originally Posted by
Andres
And why is voting Beskar suspicious in itself? Are the reasons for voting Beskar invalid in your opinion? Why does the mafia have to be a player who voted Beskar?
They don't have to be anyone. But I see Beskar's post about Husar, I see a great big flashing sign that says to the mafia: I am innocent and I just all but proved it to any townie whose paranoia does not exceed their good sense. Please kill me.
So I wanted to see who would oblige. So far TinCow's snap vote on the basis of Beskar's Niklas vote seems to fit the bill better than the other options.
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Originally Posted by
Andres
I also don't know your source of information, but if it's Beskar, then why would he feel the need to privately claim a pro-town role to you at the very beginning of the game? That makes no sense.
That is correct, the information I'm privy to is straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak. While it is plausible that he might be lying, I doubt it on this occasion; Beskar made these claims to me because he was literally elated by his Role PM. He didn't quote it, as per the rules, but he was very excited about it. I suppose following through with the lynch might be the only way for everyone to see why he's so chuffed, though.
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And it would be rather foolish because for all he knows, you could be scum.
This is true, it would be foolish under normal circumstances... but Beskar's character isn't normal circumstances.
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Originally Posted by
Renata
They don't have to be anyone. But I see Beskar's post about Husar, I see a great big flashing sign that says to the mafia: I am innocent and I just all but proved it to any townie whose paranoia does not exceed their good sense. Please kill me.
So I wanted to see who would oblige. So far TinCow's snap vote on the basis of Beskar's Niklas vote seems to fit the bill better than the other options.
That's reasonable :bow:
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Well, the way it looks, Beskar is dead anyway now.
You women need to learn not to talk about secrets in public. ~;)
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Condescending statement: Don't worry, Masters. Everyone makes mistakes. When you realize your error you can always reassemble him.
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Husar
You women need to learn not to talk about secrets in public. ~;)
I haven't really told you anything constructive, though, so it's hardly like I revealed anything beyond saying his lynch is a bad idea.
I personally believe that Beskar is the Jedi Council's envoy, but to each their own.
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Originally Posted by
Secura
I personally believe that Beskar is the Jedi Council's envoy, but to each their own.
That doesn't mean he can't be a Sith Lord :shrug:
Knowing Sigurd, I wouldn't be too surprised if the leader of our expedition actually is the Sith Lord we are looking for.
Now, wouldn't thát be a role to be excited about?
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Originally Posted by
Secura
That is correct, the information I'm privy to is straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak. While it is plausible that he might be lying, I doubt it on this occasion; Beskar made these claims to me because he was literally elated by his Role PM. He didn't quote it, as per the rules, but he was very excited about it. I suppose following through with the lynch might be the only way for everyone to see why he's so chuffed, though.
You do realize that by saying all this you're essentially forcing a role reveal by Beskar. It would have been more effective if you had just defended him normally without resorting to a power-role claim. By doing this you've painted a target on his head for the town if he doesn't reveal and a target on his head for the mafia if he does. Did you not think this through, or are you intentionally trying to get him killed?
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Originally Posted by
TinCow
You do realize that by saying all this you're essentially forcing a role reveal by Beskar. It would have been more effective if you had just defended him normally without resorting to a power-role claim. By doing this you've painted a target on his head for the town if he doesn't reveal and a target on his head for the mafia if he does. Did you not think this through, or are you intentionally trying to get him killed?
Interesting point.
Why so careless with valuable information, Secura?
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Originally Posted by
TinCow
Did you not think this through, or are you intentionally trying to get him killed?
Actually, I have thought it through considerably, mulling over everything he told me in considerable detail.
Consider what you said in regards to the town and the mafia for lynches/kills respectively, then consider what I have said myself, and then you might understand.
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unvote, vote: Beskar
Statement: I have done a recalculation, and it seems this is the only way to teach the meatbags a lesson.
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Originally Posted by
Secura
Actually, I have thought it through considerably, mulling over everything he told me in considerable detail.
Consider what you said in regards to the town and the mafia for lynches/kills respectively, then consider what I have said myself, and then you might understand.
If you want Beskar to be forced to reveal and/or be lynched/killed, why were you criticizing the people who voted for him? You're not making any sense.
[edit] Er, sorry... got Renata and Secura mixed up. Apologies. Noting to see here... :creep:
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Originally Posted by
TinCow
why were you criticizing the people who voted for him?
Don't jump the gun, TinCow; I didn't criticise anyone who voted for him, it was a different person that did that.
I mentioned his "I love Sigurd" post a few pages back and asked you all why he might have said that, that was all.
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I get it too. unvote: Sasaki, vote: Beskar
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Originally Posted by
Secura
Don't jump the gun, TinCow; I didn't criticise anyone who voted for him, it was a different person that did that.
I mentioned his "I love Sigurd" post a few pages back and asked you all why he might have said that, that was all.
Yeah, sorry, just noticed that a moment ago. I got you mixed up with Renata.
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Ok, due to my mix-up of posters, I had to do a re-read, and that leaves me still with problems with Secura's posts.
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Originally Posted by
Secura
Well, considering what I know about that post and why he said that, it is a very bad idea to lynch Beskar.
Self-explanatory, you say you don't want Beskar lynched.
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Originally Posted by
Secura
I haven't really told you anything constructive, though, so it's hardly like I revealed anything beyond saying his lynch is a bad idea.
I personally believe that Beskar is the Jedi Council's envoy, but to each their own.
You say you haven't told us anything constructive, then you specifically peg Beskar as what is likely the most powerful pro-town role in the game? Are you insane? When I then ask why you would do such a thing as a 'defense' of Beskar, you say you thought about the situation very carefully:
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Originally Posted by
Secura
Actually, I have thought it through considerably, mulling over everything he told me in considerable detail.
Consider what you said in regards to the town and the mafia for lynches/kills respectively, then consider what I have said myself, and then you might understand.
I honestly couldn't tell what you meant by that, but then ATPG votes for Beskar and you seem to approve:
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Originally Posted by
Secura
Someone gets it now.
So... what exactly are you doing here? The bandwagon on Beskar really was pretty flimsy. Renata was already doing an acceptable job of refuting it and with a bit more support it wouldn't have been too hard to reverse it and save Beskar. But, instead of doing that, you straight up call him the top pro-town role without any prompting whatsoever. Your claims that you carefully thought through revealing this information AND that you want to save him are contradictory. You've doomed him for no reason.
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She's implying he claims he can't be lynched, either, and she wants to test him on that claim.
I'm not sure I see any reason to oppose it, whatever I may think of what's going on in general.
Unless Beskar turns up and says she's lying through her teeth. When's the deadline?
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TinCow
Self-explanatory, you say you don't want Beskar lynched.
I said it was a bad idea, if what I've been told is true.
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You say you haven't told us anything constructive, then you specifically peg Beskar as what is likely the most powerful pro-town role in the game? Are you insane?
I believe it is called a Xanatos Gambit; I felt I had to chance it while there were still some votes on him.
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So... what exactly are you doing here? The bandwagon on Beskar really was pretty flimsy.
Flimsy is a bit of an understatement, yes, I can totally agree there; the one currently on Andres is just as poor. But what can one expect from the first round, huh?
Beskar made some claims to me which I wanted to test, but simply hopping on a bandwagon and voting for him wouldn't suffice; I would have to cast doubts in the town's mind to perhaps encourage more votes on him to see whether he was telling the truth or not.
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You've doomed him for no reason.
Mmmmhmmm.
You need to think a little more about my motives, I feel.
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Anyone else care to vouch that they know whatever Secura claims to know about Beskar? Right now we're lynching someone she herself says she believes is the most powerful pro-town role in the game, based solely on her own word regarding Beskar's implications of his abilities. This would not necessarily be a bad trade for mafia.
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Well, at least the first day won't be wasted on random silliness. I must say, that seems to be a trend over the last several months. I almost miss our pointless round 1 lynches.
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Man this feels just like pever's riftwar where we straight up lynched the pro-town king on the first day. :no:
So I'm reluctant to vote Beskar, as I have a hard time understand what Sec is doing here. Why would Beskar write something like that into the thread, even I thought he was alluding to a special role he got. That's just weird.
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Renata
Anyone else care to vouch that they know whatever Secura claims to know about Beskar?
As far as I know, he claimed solely to me. It wasn't really claiming so much as boasting.
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Right now we're lynching someone she herself says she believes is the most powerful pro-town role in the game, based solely on her own word regarding Beskar's implications of his abilities.
I hazarded a guess at who he might be based upon those claims, because they seem too powerful and unbecoming of an peon like me.
I can unvote, vote: Beskar now I've laid out my case anyway.
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Originally Posted by
Secura
I haven't really told you anything constructive, though, so it's hardly like I revealed anything beyond saying his lynch is a bad idea.
A bad lynch is always a good kill...
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Originally Posted by
Joooray
Man this feels just like pever's riftwar where we straight up lynched the pro-town king on the first day. :no:
That game we had 2 towns vying for majority, so there were townies who wanted him out.
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Originally Posted by
Niklas
Oops, thanks ATPG, edited.
Edited voted don't alway count, safer to make a new post. Unless that was your plan, to secretly keep your vote on Beskar...
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7 hours left - lets wait for Beskar.
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Originally Posted by
atheotes
That game we had 2 towns vying for majority, so there were townies who wanted him out.
Okay true, but nobody said that openly, for it felt like people didn't believe W_E even after he role-claimed.
Which reminds me, now that we know what Beskar claims to be, Vote: White_Eyes:D! So what are you then? :grin2:
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Originally Posted by
pevergreen
Of course the frame would only work if they saw the conversation, which is like...Beefy and Beskar are the only two other orgahs who could have seen that and are playing.
Unvote: Renata, Vote: Beskar
I'll first kill known lurkers who has contributed in previous games. Unless I knew of a pro-town, and thus kill them for obvious reasons. Beefy comes under neither or those. I believe anyone who has been my mafia partner before in a game knows that. For example, like Netherworld.
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Originally Posted by
TinCow
You vote the new guy on D1 to haze him, you don't actually try to go through with it. :stare:
Unvote; Vote: Beskar
Interesting, since the whole post was infact a correctly done pressure vote. It wasn't a final vote. You are grasping straws.
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What I find interesting this round is how some people were eager to lynch me for "scummy" reasons, when I am not infact again scum.
Some one let the cat out of the bag, but attempting to lynch me is a bad idea. It is hard to return the genie into the lamp once you released it. I am indeed a Jedi Master. Thank you for telling this to the mafia. Since if you attempt to lynch me, you will discover this is the case anyway.
Unvote; vote: TinCow, since you so badly wanted to lead this expedition to fail.
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Originally Posted by
Captain Blackadder
Of course there is you silly droid I taught myself the ways of the force I needed no teacher to tell me what the force is I discovered it for myself
Statement: I also use the force whenever necessary, meatbag. It pleases me greatly.
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Originally Posted by
Captain Blackadder
now get out of my sight it sickens me to even see your kind here.
Advisement: Is saying that such a good idea, meatbag? After all, saying that to an assassin droid does not appear to be the best of ideas.
Evasion: Err. I mean a protocol droid, meatbag. Ignore my last advisement.
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Originally Posted by
Beskar
I am indeed a Jedi Master. Thank you for telling this to the mafia. Since if you attempt to lynch me, you will discover this is the case anyway.
To be clear: you're claiming you can't be lynched?
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Unvote; vote: TinCow, since you so badly wanted to lead this expedition to fail.
Odd, I thought I was grilling the person who revealed your role for no reason. Interesting that you see me as your greatest attacker.
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Originally Posted by
TinCow
Odd, I thought I was grilling the person who revealed your role for no reason. Interesting that you see me as your greatest attacker.
Actually that is correct. Unvote; Vote:Secura
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Originally Posted by
TinCow
Odd, I thought I was grilling the person who revealed your role for no reason.
So let me get this straight... what you're saying is that if someone told you that they were completely immune to all forms of elimination in this game, you wouldn't find that suspicious? You wouldn't call them out on it or attempt to prove their claims?
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Originally Posted by
Secura
So let me get this straight... what you're saying is that if someone told you that they were completely immune to all forms of elimination in this game, you wouldn't find that suspicious? You wouldn't call them out on it or attempt to prove their claims?
You didn't say that before, you danced around the point and acted inconsistently.
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Tally:
Beskar: 9 (Chaotix, Niklas, Csargo, TC, Sasaki, Diamondeye, Auto, Atpg, Secura)
Andres: 4 (GH, Khaan, Diana, WE)
Atpg: 3 (ACIN, Andre, TheFlax)
White_Eyes: 3 (WH, Khazaar, Joooray)
TC: 2 (Belisarius, Renata)
Lord Winter: 2 (Subo, Yaro)
Sasaki: 2 (Kage, Methos)
Kage: 1 (LW)
pever: 1 (Csargo)
Khazaar: 1 (Psycho)
Jolt: 1 (Jolt)
TM: 1 (Capt B)
Renata: 1 (atheotes)
Secura: 1 (Beskar)
abstain: 1 (I-K)
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Originally Posted by
TinCow
You didn't say that before, you danced around the point and acted inconsistently.
And you're now doing the same thing; what would you have done in my shoes, TinCow?
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Alright, screw this. I might as well take-up the mantle as Townie Information Network leader.
I am a Jedi Master, I cannot be lynched. You will obviously see this in a few hours. Thanks for revealing this information though, great way to attract wanted attention to me.
As you will see this is obviously the case, I request all roles to fully reveal to me after this lynch phase, then I suggest we lynch anyone who does not comply. I also obviously like protection on me as well.
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I believe Beskar. I doubt a mafioso would claim lynch immunity in private and then publicly on day one; it's too risky because mafioso are never lynch immune for balance reasons. There is plenty of time to test Beskar's role in other ways later on. We've gotten the role-reveal we asked for, time to move on to other suspects.
Unvote; Vote: Secura
This may be a strategic disagreement, but I would not have handled this situation the way you did. It smacks of scum to me.
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Originally Posted by
Beskar
Alright, screw this. I might as well take-up the mantle as Townie Information Network leader.
I am a Jedi Master, I cannot be lynched. You will obviously see this in a few hours. Thanks for revealing this information though, great way to attract wanted attention to me.
As you will see this is obviously the case, I request all roles to fully reveal to me after this lynch phase, then I suggest we lynch anyone who does not comply. I also obviously like protection on me as well.
Statement: Lynching is a very ankward meatbag method of killing somebody. A blast in the face is usually the best way of fixing problems.
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Re: StarWars: Return of the Sith [In Play]
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Beskar
As you will see this is obviously the case, I request all roles to fully reveal to me after this lynch phase, then I suggest we lynch anyone who does not comply. I also obviously like protection on me as well.
For the record, I heavily disagree with this bit. Keep your secrets to yourselves, or post them publicly. Networks are the servants of the Dark Side.
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TinCow
This may be a strategic disagreement, but I would not have handled this situation the way you did. It smacks of scum to me.
I'd have had a night kill to test his claims instead, if that was the case.
Alas I am an Initiate and had to utilise the only means I have.
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TinCow
For the record, I heavily disagree with this bit. Keep your secrets to yourselves, or post them publicly. Networks are the servants of the Dark Side.
Well, it will make the game far easier for the town. If you know how I handle a pro-town network, one look at D20 will show the success I can produce. Since I am about to get revealed as being correct in what I say, there is no reason to doubt me.
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Trying to lynch Beskar was probably sensible to begin with as at least once he was dead we would know if he was sincere, Beskar can stoop low sometimes.
But given the reveal I'll vote for someone entirely different, the worst that can happen is no lynch if people don't unvote him, that is if hes unlynchable.
Vote: Belisarius II
Just because I don't trust him, new players wouldn't be aware Husar is a returning player, experienced ones would. As a new mafia player to this forum I'm happy to initiate a welcome vote for him. :grin:
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any talk of role reveal or townie network should wait till the phase is over and Beskar's role can be ascertained.
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Beskar
Well, it will make the game far easier for the town. If you know how I handle a pro-town network, one look at D20 will show the success I can produce. Since I am about to get revealed as being correct in what I say, there is no reason to doubt me.
You'd be surprised how far scum would go to gain control of the town's information. I vaguely recall a serial killer actively dying for the town to help prove his alignment. That one didn't end well for the town. Don't push it, my willingness to defend you goes only so far. In any case, Sigurd is fond of cover role PMs specifically to prevent your proposed strategy from working.
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Beskar
one look at D20 will show the success I can produce.
Beskar's the whole reason the town won Swords and D20s 3; he uncovered and named every single person and their respective roles to the host within a day of joining the game. And he joined one day after everyone else as it is. His boasting in-thread was a little irksome, but it was warranted I think.
This was precisely the reason I wanted Beskar's claims proven; if he was lying, we bagged a Sith, and if he was telling the truth, we have someone to rally around.
I read it as a win-win, but your mileage may well vary.
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johnhughthom
Tally:
Beskar: 9 (Chaotix, Niklas, Csargo, TC, Sasaki, Diamondeye, Auto, Atpg, Secura)
Andres: 4 (GH, Khaan, Diana, WE)
Atpg: 3 (ACIN, Andre, TheFlax)
White_Eyes: 3 (WH, Khazaar, Joooray)
TC: 2 (Belisarius, Renata)
Lord Winter: 2 (Subo, Yaro)
Sasaki: 2 (Kage, Methos)
Kage: 1 (LW)
pever: 1 (Csargo)
Khazaar: 1 (Psycho)
Jolt: 1 (Jolt)
TM: 1 (Capt B)
Renata: 1 (atheotes)
Secura: 1 (Beskar)
abstain: 1 (I-K)
>:(
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Beskar
If you know how I handle a pro-town network, one look at D20 will show the success I can produce.
Count me out of this one then.:bow:
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Beskar, if you want to be proven innocent, how come you don't vote for yourself? If you did, it would go a long way to hush the voices in my head whispering that this is all an attempt to get everyone to move their votes to elsewhere.
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Beskar
Alright, screw this. I might as well take-up the mantle as Townie Information Network leader.
I am a Jedi Master, I cannot be lynched. You will obviously see this in a few hours. Thanks for revealing this information though, great way to attract wanted attention to me.
As you will see this is obviously the case, I request all roles to fully reveal to me after this lynch phase, then I suggest we lynch anyone who does not comply. I also obviously like protection on me as well.
Somebody needs a major history lesson. This is for your own good.
Unvote: Andres
Vote: Beskar
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I must follow my general.
Unvote: Andres
Vote: Beskar
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Since it appears Beskar is about to become the information broker, then I agree we need to be sure... Vote: Beskar.
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Well, I want everyone who comments on this from now until the end of the day to make it clear: if Beskar is lynched and confirmed, he *will* be an information nexus to some extent. People will tell him things. Including some of the non-town, presumably. And there will be townies who refuse to. And most of them will wind up dead for the refusal, sooner or later. That's just the way it tends to work.
But anyone who keeps Beskar from being lynched for the rest of the day is implicitly voting against all of this.
I have mixed feelings. But I do think he's very likely to be pro-town, and I vastly prefer the outcome if he is "lynched" to the outcome if he isn't, which is likely to be non-stop "should we lynch Beskar or shouldn't we" until the cows come home.
So unvote, vote: Beskar.
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I'd just like to state right here, before this is resolved, that I will *not* be providing any sort of information to Beskar even if he is lynched and ends up surviving. This will be out of protest for the system that I know is bound to materialize.
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GeneralHankerchief
I'd just like to state right here, before this is resolved, that I will *not* be providing any sort of information to Beskar even if he is lynched and ends up surviving. This will be out of protest for the system that I know is bound to materialize.
Once again, I follow my general.