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Originally Posted by Fragony
The Palestinians have the right to attack and defend themselves against those who have imprisoned them for generations and who plan to continue that imprisonment for generations more.
Then what does "I would shoot them and watch them drown" mean when one speaks of civilians? Or is that Dutch for "I love everybody"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Doesn't mean I don't love them, it's just somewhat differen't, that's a very Dutch thing really we all kinda are. you can make them holes in bodyparts that aren't equiped with any openings by nature, she forgot I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
What? What are you talking about? Who's she?
Forgot, can't have been very specialQuote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
And what of the Canadian subjugation of the Native Americans? Megus can discuss at length their suffering. Certainly they deserve all their land back, and until then, Megus would be completely justified in launching rockets indiscriminately at Toronto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Canada: Still oppressing two centuries later. They make Israel look like noobs...Quote:
The native population makes up about 4% of Canada's population though it remains among the poorest. Canada was one of the few nations that last year voted against the UN declaration of the rights of indigenous peoples, saying that it would create constitutional problems.
I think you will find, sir, that no country has been as as generous in restitution and as observant of treaty with its indigeous people as Canada. And protection for those agreements are entrenched in our constitution. In Quebec alone, treaties with native peoples give them special status rights over hundreds of thousands of square kilometres of land, authority over billions of dollars of natural resources, as well as direct payments and compensation well into the hundreds of millions of dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
By the by, nice tank in your sig. My father used to blow those up. :smiley:
There's that rosy depiction, and then there's the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
The 'restitution' you describe amounts to nothing but trinkets, shiny beeds for Manhatten if you will. Why don't you just give them their land back and go back to Britain or where ever your colonist, oppressor relatives came from? They were there first and you stole their land and genocided them for the hell of it.Quote:
In 1909, Dr. Peter Bryce, general medical superintendent for the Department of Indian Affairs (DIA), reported to the department that between 1894 and 1908 mortality rates at residential schools in Western Canada ranged from 30% to 60% over five years (that is, five years after entry, 30% to 60% of students had died, or 6-12% per annum). These statistics did not become public until 1922, when Bryce, who was no longer working for the government, published The Story of a National Crime: Being a Record of the Health Conditions of the Indians of Canada from 1904 to 1921. In particular, he alleged that the high mortality rates were frequently deliberate, with healthy children being exposed to children with tuberculosis.
Israel's problem is that they haven't been as ruthless as Canada in dealing with their indigenous population. I guess they did learn something from the Holocaust.
Unless he found them out of gas and abandoned, I'm doubting he blew up many of those. ~;)Quote:
By the by, nice tank in your sig. My father used to blow those up.
Indeed, that's a german tank destroyer, I believe, assuming your father operated a bazooka I dont think he would have encountered many of them; they weren't often used against infantry. Also if he was a Sherman tank driver the chances of surviving against them was remote, Sherman's weren't realy known for being particually powerful in comparison to German tanks.Quote:
Unless he found it out of gas and abandoned, I'm doubting he blew up many of those.
Oh, I'm certainly not saying the native people were always well treated, on the contrary - they suffered horrible abuses because of the stupidity of Canadian people. I am the first to agree that we owe the native peoples a huge debt. But I also believe the Canadian people are coming to terms with the truth of the situation and are honestly concerned with making up for the horrors visited upon native peoples because of our ignorance and stupidity. And I say again that few, if any, countries in the world are going as far in making reparations as Canada is.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
I can't make up for what happened centuries or even decades before I was born. What I can do is push for and support the native people in their goals right now. I can and I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
And if you think what the native peoples have received (so far) as restitution is nothing but trinkets, then you really have no idea of the truth. But if you want to excuse the murder of Palestinians by the Israelis by throwing rocks at Canada, that's fine with me. We can carry the converation as far as you would like to take it. But given that the two situations exist as night and day in comparision, it does little to further your argument.
I admit to being befuddled; I'm not sure whether to point out the thundering wrongness of that statement or to simply state how odd it is that the person making it is one who glorifies Nazism.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Proof is in the pudding. We won - they lost. And one of the reasons we won is that we blew up a lot of their tanks. :smiley:Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
He was a graduate of Sandhurst and served as a tank commander with the Canadian army in Italy in WWII.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Yes you can. It's as easy as packing up and moving away. Give the people their land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
I mean,IsraelCanada took an extra step into the land of the stupid by not only redrawing borders, but by importing an entire culture and people from another part of the world and plopping it right smack dab in the middle of a place that already had an indigenous population. It was not only criminal and stupid, but criminally stupid.
Who are the ones stealing land, imprisoning thousands without trial, using torture, killing men. woman, and children with every weapon imaginable, denying the very basics of human life, and keeping a million people in a brutal open air concentration camp decade after decade after decade?
It is nice that you - the occupier who makes a living out of destroying the environment they care so deeply for - have deemed your nation's efforts at restitution 'good enough'.Quote:
And if you think what the native peoples have received (so far) as restitution is nothing but trinkets, then you really have no idea of the truth.
Maybe if the ones who stole the land and imprisoned, brutalized, tortured, dehumanized, and killed the people who lived there didn't do those things, the other people wouldn't feel so abused.
TheIsraelisCanadians are the bad guys. They are the ones who continue to steal land. They are the ones who kill far more innocent people than the indigenous peoples. They are the ones who ran concentration camps and keep whole generations locked up under brutal and inhuman conditions.
Indeed they are. The Israelis never used biological warfare as a method of genocide against Palestinian children. The Israelis have never tried to 'kill the Palestinian in the child'.Quote:
But given that the two situations exist as night and day in comparision, it does little to further your argument.
Sieg Heil :rolleyes:Quote:
I admit to being befuddled; I'm not sure whether to point out the thundering wrongness of that statement or to simply state how odd it is that the person making it is one who glorifies Nazism.
Since the discussion has revolved around evil nations full of genocidal, maniacal, occupying outsiders with no intention of returning the land they stole (and/or ridiculously over-dramatic rhetoric about such nations), Canada seemed to fit right into the equation - except that what they did and continue to do to the natives is at least several orders of magnitude greater than the worst the Israelis have done to the Palestinians. You don't agree?
Considering the fact that no Jagdpanthers served in Italy, I have an even harder time believing your father ever blew one up.Quote:
He was a graduate of Sandhurst and served as a tank commander with the Canadian army in Italy in WWII.
It it not about Canada, but about establishing guiding principles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
Does your stance on Canada mean that in principle you think Israel should exist, but that it should treat the Palestinians as well as English Canadians treat their minorities?
Allowing them to rule themselves in territories that are their own, only Canadian in name? Ah well. Where teh outraged over the Marrocans illegally holding the Western Sahara, where are they when Turkey uses gas against the Kurds, where are they when Egypt gasses Palestinians. Horrible way to die, your longues actually melt, you live long enough to cough parts of them up, 30 minutes or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Reading your posts I get the feeling you support the Palestinians.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
That's very enlightened of you. :sunny:
The Israelis.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Is it just me or is there somehting really weird about being lectured to on the rights of Jewish people by someone with a tag and sig that would frighten a Jewish grandmother right into her grave?
I've worked on reserves cutting trees and clearing out for maple sugar stands with Mohawks. Believe me, I think I was the most environmentally minded guy there.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Well it's not a good tactic for people living only a mile away.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Whatever turns you on, baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Not in the least. As time goes by Canada gives more land back to the native people, grants them more special rights and jurisdition, and pays more restitution. Israel just keep taking and killing and taking and killing.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
None in Italy? Were they up in Poland with the SS beating up old women or in France having "senior staff" fellatio parties*?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
(*I was just reading The Arms of Krupp and there is the story of Fritz Krupp getting busted for being a pedophile and the authour describes the rampant sodomy taking place between German officers in the Reich. Gives a whole new meaning to "breach loading" doesn't it?)
I believe the creation of Israel was a criminal, but it's too late to do anything about it. Israel exists and that's that. And no, the Israelis should have no jurisdiction over the Palestinians. Palestine has to be a free country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
It isn't even the worst they use schools for http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&tb...&aqi=&aql=&oq=
Ever considered that a state would make terror an domestic thing, they aren't going to burn their hands at that as long as they get it all for free.
I think that neither side wants this situation solved. It is beneficial for both Israel and Palestinians to have an arch(?) enemy. It's much easier to blame some one else for all the bad things that happen in your home. I'm quite sure that my grandchildren will talk about the situation in Israel/Palestine.
The only thing I support in this thread is the insanely over the top rhetoric that can be applied to virtually every developed nation on earth. Such hysterics make the backroom fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
Please try and keep up. I'm lecturing you on the Native Americans that you are currently oppressing.Quote:
Is it just me or is there somehting really weird about being lectured to on the rights of Jewish people by someone with a tag and sig that would frighten a Jewish grandmother right into her grave?
The language of the oppressor, ladies and gentlemen, from a citizen of the nation that voted against the UN declaration of the rights of indigenous peoples. You've stolen their land, destroyed their civilizations, and genocided their children - and now you're offering them grants! How enlightened.Quote:
Not in the least. As time goes by Canada gives more land back to the native people, grants them more special rights and jurisdition, and pays more restitution.
Why don't you just leave, Beirut? Remove your jackboot from these poor people's collective throat, pack up, and go. You're living and profiting directly from stolen land, while the victims remain some of the poorest people in the Western Hemisphere.
Canada is a criminal, genocidal nation and I fully support violent insurrection against Euro-Canadians. It's time some inaccurate rockets landed in your backyard, so you can begin to feel the pain of the victims you are currently oppressing.
Nope, not a one - and your father should consider himself lucky for that indeed.Quote:
None in Italy?
What's rock & roll without feedback? :smiley:Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
I simply thought you needed to do a better job of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Soaring prose, lad. Soaring prose.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
I can't say that it bears a hint of a whiff of a sniff of reality in it, but by God it was well written.
I don't see why. Since the Germans got whacked in every theater they fought in, that means someone was blowing those things up. And since my father was a someone and fought in a theater of WWII, it stands to reason that would have blown some up, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
So whether it was the Russians blowing them up "BOOM!" or the Americans blowing them up "BOOM!" or the British blowing them up "BOOM!" or the Canadians blowing them up "BOOM!", the fact remains - they done go blowed up
"BOOM!"
Forget about the Six Nations*, this weekend's best entertainment is provided by the nazi and the lumberjack. :beam:
* The Euro rugby tournament that is, not the genocided people from whose stolen land Beirut castigates others for stealing land. ~;p
eh wut
GO SQUIRRALS, really just get the hell out of there
Dose anyone else see the irony of a Frenchman discussing the land theft of others? Particularly Canadian land theft?Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
After all Canada is a relatively new country. The original theft took place under French and or British control.
Also one could make a reasonable argument that excepting Île-de-France the whole country was snatched away from its rightful owners. :hmg:
[QUOTE=Fisherking;2053261613]Dose anyone else see the irony of a Frenchman discussing the land theft of others? /QUOTE]
Irony makes them French to begin with, it's like Belgium sweating pure testosteron. Hold them back
So is a lot of what you say about the Israel-Palestine conflict, I think that is PJ's point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
The emphasis and repetition towards the end cannot distract from the fact that you're heavily backpedaling now. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
Though it doesn't really matter whether your father destroyed a Jagdpanther or not, he probably did a good job anyway....
is that intended to:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
a) advance the current debate,
b) merely act a 'pleasantry', or;
c) troll for a angry reaction,
just curious.............?
I stopped responding a while ago. There was no point when some one just regurgitates something blindingly like a Fox News talk-host, and doesn't address certain hypocrisies in their posts.
Well, from what I've seen, a lot of people here seem very concerned with the rights of displaced indigeous peoples.
Methinks the Palestinians have much more backing now then they did a few pages back. Either that of the people who back Israel are freely admitting the land was stolen and that the Palesting are getting screwed over by right of might.
Just having some fun, bubby. :smiley:Quote:
Originally Posted by Furunculus
agreed, this did rather become a purposeless thread rather than a vehicle for discussion and learning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
And that is the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
I've read your posts for years Beirut, and even though you do not post here very often anymore, I remember that they were always insightful, measured responses - except when discussing this particular topic. I don't know if it triggers an emotional reaction in you, or if you think such methods further your point, but you become a one man propaganda machine for the Palestinian cause.
Now of course you are free to post whatever you like, but I just wanted to point out that people tune out such absolutist rhetoric and your opinion soon loses credibility.
Interestingly enough, the Allies eventually had great success in every theatre except one. ~;)Quote:
I don't see why. Since the Germans got whacked in every theater they fought in, that means someone was blowing those things up.
Was that the one between russia and finland?
Kind of you to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
I see a people imprisoned and suffering. How can I not jump to their defense?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
My concern isn't whether people tune out; my concern is that people speak loudly and forcefully when they see people being victimized. There is a lot of stigma and stones thrown at people who support the Palestinians. It's important that those people doing the throwing never think for one moment that the other side will ever give in, tone down, or walk away in fear. This is a human rights issue. Absolutism is required.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
And you will be dropping this particular shoe when?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Sounds really bad that prison, really confuses me why all Palestians I know visit it every year. I'm invited for the summer, should I go it sounds kinda dangerous
Home is home, even if it's not the best place. And why should a person not go home just because someone else is making it a bad place to be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I think Palestinians going back to Gaza shows a lot of heart.
I totally think you should go. I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I would go, who cares if its dangerous you'll probably be fine and it would be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Of course not. By Beirut's logic he would be justified in targeting RCArmy and RCMP facilities as they are armed components of the oppressor state. Beirut was very clear about the AIMING thing, PJ. Beirut has NOT succumbed to the "They hit our kids so we should hit theirs" philosophy -- he has merely noted that there are those who do think that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
That was kinda sarcasm. I know it will be fun should I go and I know that I will have no problems whatsoever beyond sugar-overdose how can they eat that. Which is kinda the point, things aren't all that bad there, most certainly not a humanitarian disaster. And if there was any the only thing that sets it apart is that it are Israeli's doing it. Total silence on where it's much much worse. Not going by the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Chuchip
Strange because UNRWA is still massively busy there. Must be a holiday camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I can find you plenty that it isQuote:
Originally Posted by alh_p
guess who is he UN there by the way, all money is byebye
Go on, tell me that they are all obese and therefore actually over-indulging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Never said all, but they are the second fattest people in the universe and surroundings yesQuote:
Originally Posted by alh_p
http://www.duo.uio.no/sok/work.html?WORKID=18238Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Nutritional status and lifestyle among school adolescents in Gaza strip, 2003, Abudayya, Abdallah Hassan, University of Oslo
And for more points:Quote:
Results: The prevalence of underweight was 4.9%, overweight was 12.8%, obesity was 5.5% and stunting was 9.6%, the latter being higher among boys than girls. The prevalence of anemia was 48.1%. It was higher among girls than boys 51.4% and 44.2% respectively. Higher consumption in starch items was found compared to other important food items such as animal products, mainly meat, and dairy products as well as fruits and vegetables. Food frequency intake seems to be positively related to socio-economic status for all food groups.
However no relationship was found between the frequency intakes of the different food groups and BMI, except for starchy items that were negatively associated with BMI. Poverty and low level of education in parents was associated with the high prevalence of chronic
malnutrition (stunting). Adolescents’ lifestyle seemed to be affected by the urbanization as well as the political situation. A high sedentary lifestyle and physical inactivity was observed in this study. A relatively high number of dieting adolescents and skipping meals patterns was also observed. The prevalence of smoking was found to be relatively high in adolescents at this age.
Conclusion: Stunting, overweight/obesity and anemia are considered public health problems among the adolescents in Gaza and immediate actions to improve the nutritional status of this age group should be taken. Multi-sector coordination between different ministries and community NGOs in order to improve the nutritional status of the adolescents in Palestine should take place. The Nutrition
Department in the Ministry of Health should take the leading role and initiate this and take the initiative to develop a national plan which aims at improving the nutritional status and maintain well-being of young children and adolescents.
www.who.int/countryfocus/cooperation_strategy/ccsbrief_pse_en.pdf
Yes, a holiday camp.Quote:
Demographic and epidemiological transition is occurring. The fertility rate remains high at 4.6 children per woman, while infant and under-five mortality rates are low at 24.2 and 28.5 per 1000 live births respectively. Noncommunicable diseases are the major causes of mortality (heart disease 19.1%, cerebrovascular conditions 8.2%, cancers 9.9%, and a sharp increase in accidents from 9 per 100 000 in 1995 to 32.2 per 100 000 in 2004) together with perinatal conditions (9.7%).a Communicable diseases including pneumonia, respiratory infections, viral hepatitis (A, B and C) and tuberculosis account for 10% of deaths. HIV/AIDS is not yet a significant problem.
Mental health morbidity is increasing. Levels of psychological trauma and stress are high especially for children and young people. Almost 50% of children report personal experience of conflict-related violence or have witnessed violence. Aggressive behaviour among children and adolescents is increasingly reported. Since 2000 there has been a significant increase in the number of patients seeking treatment at community mental health centres.
Chronic malnutrition and dietary-related disease are slowly increasing. Iron-deficiency anaemia affects 25% of children under five and 33% of women of child-bearing age; stunting is increasing in children under five; premature and low birth weight are responsible for 25.9% of all reported infant deaths in 2004. Obesity nd chronic diseases related to diet are increasing in older groups. There is a significant health imbalance between West Bank and Gaza Strip. Infant mortality rates are 30% higher in Gaza (30.2 per 1000) than in the West Bank (20 per 1000) and mortality figures in Gaza have increased by 15% compared with pre-intifada figures.
The who huh
I hope Banqo isn't going to get all to angry with me, but it's really true. Inbreeding causes most of all that
Really? That's not what those SCIENTISTS and MEDICAL DOCTORS say above. Who should I believe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
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Poverty and low level of education in parents was associated with the high prevalence of chronic malnutrition (stunting). Adolescents’ lifestyle seemed to be affected by the urbanization as well as the political situation. A high sedentary lifestyle and physical inactivity was observed in this study.
Listen to daddy and start giving sources. :smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I don't know if the extremely high obesity levels in Gaza are the result of inbreeding, but many other physical and mental problems are. For example, boys mistaken for girls:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/me....id/index.htmlQuote:
Until last summer, both Nadir and Ahmed were -- for all intents and purposes -- girls. They wore female headscarves, attended girls' school and even answered to the female first names Navin and Ola.
Both Nadir and Ahmed were born with a rare birth defect called male pseudohermaphrodism.
Deficiency of the hormone 17-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17-B-HSD) during pregnancy left their male reproductive organs deformed and buried deep within their abdomens.
At birth, doctors identified Nadir and Ahmed as girls, because they appeared to have female genitalia.
As a result, they spent the first 16 years of their lives dressing and acting like girls. It was a role that grew increasingly difficult to play, as they hit puberty and their bodies began generating testosterone, resulting in facial hair and increasingly masculine features.
"They used to travel by car to girls' school and back," says Nadir's father Mohammed Sadih Ahmed Saleh. "Because of their facial hair, it was difficult for them to go out into the street. Psychologically they were distressed."
[...]
There are an unusually high number of male pseudohermaphrodite births in the Gaza neighborhood of Jabalya, where Nadir and Ahmed live.
Dr. Jehad Abudaia, a Canadian-Palestinian pediatrician and urologist practicing in Gaza, says he has diagnosed nearly 80 cases like Nadir's and Ahmed's in the last seven years."It is astonishing that we have [so] many cases with this defect, which is very rare all over the world," Abudaia says. He attributes the high frequency of this birth defect to "consanguinity," or in-breeding.
"If you want to go to the root of the problem, this problem runs in families in the genes." Abudaia says. "They want to get married to cousins... they don't go to another family. This is a problem."
Pathological research on suicide bombers revealed that 90% suffered from severe mental or physical defects. Islamic / Afghan society having little patience with deformities, these social outcast wre driven into martyrs.
Many Islamic societies have high levels of consaguity. This creates unusually high numbers of people with mental or physical disabilities: the very people that are recruited / driven into martyrdom. In this manner, Islamic terrorism is closely linked with Islamic inbreeding. :book:
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Pathologist: Taliban Mostly Recruits Afghans With Disabilities For Suicide Bombings
KABUL, AFGHANISTAN--National Public Radio's Morning Edition reported Monday that most of the increasing number of Taliban suicide bombers in Afghanistan are believed to have had physical or mental disabilities.
NPR quoted forensic pathologist Dr. Yusuf Yadgari, who claims that, based on autopsies performed on the remains of recent suicide bombers, nearly 90 percent had a disability or medical condition such as leprosy.
"They are probably resentful because in Afghan society they are outcasts," Dr.Yadgari said. "They hold a grudge because many of them can't get a job. So, to make money for their families, they agree to become suicide bombers."
He added that it is often difficult to identify those who have successfully carried out suicide missions for the Taliban because they seldom carry identification, and family members seldom come forward to claim their remains.
News services have not been able to confirm Yadgari's claims, which were first announced in May of this year. Canada's Globe and Mail reported, however, that his findings were consistent with the number of would-be suicide bombers whose missions have failed, either because they have changed their minds or because they have been stopped by law enforcement or soldiers.
Oh yea duh I forgot about all that stuff you said earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
So where's the source to say that? Isn't that the biggest whopper in your piece -that Islamic societies are inbred? I'm not denying that many tribal (and other) societies will be but if you're going to use the book emoticon...Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
As to the degree of people with disabilities being suicide bombers, that to me speaks as much to the exploitative grooming of bombers. This is at odds with the use of videos etc to carry a message of "commitment to the cause" by Palestinian and others, to indicate "martyrdom" by a healthy individual, fully conscious of their decisions.
http://www.reproductive-health-journ.../1/17/table/T1 :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by alh_p
The problem of Islamic inbreeding is not limited to tribal societies:Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen (Reproductive Health Journal, 2009
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Britain's huge Pakistani community should be legally prevented from marrying first cousins, a Labour Party MP has declared, after new research showed Pakistani families produced an alarming 30% of the UK's genetically diseased children.
The research, conducted by the BBC and broadcast to a shocked nation on Tuesday, found that at least 55% of the community was married to a first cousin.
This is thought to be linked to the probability that a British Pakistani family is at least 13 times more likely than the general population to have children with recessive genetic disorders. The research found that while British Pakistanis accounted for just 3.4% of all births, they had 30% of all British children with recessive disorders and a higher rate of infant mortality.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...35,curpg-1.cms
It's all so much more fun when they call bull first, gracias Luigi
Frag's, isn't that a bit ironic given our immediately preceeding exchange?
Thank you Louis, I wasn't contradicting you, just asking you to be rigorous when you are asking for rigour.
Not that much don't worry we aren't related :sweetheart:Quote:
Originally Posted by alh_p