It's a surprise mafia [Concluded]

I'll have to vote: GeneralHankerchief

This is not a pressure vote, this is a vote to get you lynched if you don't work for the town.

Honestly I see no reason for the way you wagoned Blackadder yesterday if you are a pro town role, now notice, I'm not saying Blackadder wasn't scum, he defended very poorly and looked scummy while doing so, but if you are not working for some personal goal other than a town win I don't see the reason for withholding the information you have... especially at a stage where there probably won't be any murders right now...

I'm not working for a personal goal or anything beyond a town win.

I fully realize that this stance I'm taking will get me lynched and quickly, but frankly from where I am, being lynched is worth keeping my reasons to myself.



Askthepizzaguy rules!

Is there a fate worse than lynching you are trying to avoid? Being smothered by fat guys in bannana hammocks for eternity? Eating at Waffle House every meal for the rest of your life? Having to listen to Rush and never being able to turn it off?

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I'm not working for a personal goal or anything beyond a town win.

I fully realize that this stance I'm taking will get me lynched and quickly, but frankly from where I am, being lynched is worth keeping my reasons to myself.

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You could share it with someone you trust.

I'll just leave quietly :creep:

Vote: General Hankerchief

Seems reasonable for now.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I'm not working for a personal goal or anything beyond a town win.

I fully realize that this stance I'm taking will get me lynched and quickly, but frankly from where I am, being lynched is worth keeping my reasons to myself.

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:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Trust me everyone from my end GH behaviour this entire game is incredibly amusing.

Guys, I have feeling GH isn't scummy.
So, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

I enjoy Rush, despite their misfortune of having been born a hundred miles or so too north. :stare:

(also, happy Canada Day! :canada:)



Askthepizzaguy rules!

vote: General Hankerchief

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stuka

So, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

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vote: Mr. Stuka

It's like you're ticking all the boxes on purpose now.

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

I'll have to vote: GeneralHankerchief

This is not a pressure vote, this is a vote to get you lynched if you don't work for the town.

Honestly I see no reason for the way you wagoned Blackadder yesterday if you are a pro town role, now notice, I'm not saying Blackadder wasn't scum, he defended very poorly and looked scummy while doing so, but if you are not working for some personal goal other than a town win I don't see the reason for withholding the information you have... especially at a stage where there probably won't be any murders right now...

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That's the second time you're pushing for GH to reveal his information. While I have difficulties seeing a scummy motivation for him, to make this move on Day 2, I don't for you. Either you're picking the easiest lynch target around, or you want to get rid of a potential dangerous Town role. Either way it's a potential scummy motivation.

vote: TheLastDays

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

(also, happy Canada Day! :canada:)

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How do you get 200 Canadians out of the pool?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

By asking nicely

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stuka

Guys, I have feeling GH isn't scummy.
So, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

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Blatant OMGus. Where's the bandwagon when you need it?

Right here.

vote: Mr Stuka

Unvote;
Vote: Abstain

To kill the General you first kill his underlings..

Vote: Major Robert Dump

Because I would like to stay alive:

Vote: Mr. Stuka



Askthepizzaguy rules!

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Originally Posted by Romanic

That's the second time you're pushing for GH to reveal his information. While I have difficulties seeing a scummy motivation for him, to make this move on Day 2, I don't for you. Either you're picking the easiest lynch target around, or you want to get rid of a potential dangerous Town role. Either way it's a potential scummy motivation.

vote: TheLastDays

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Well give me a case on someone else and I might follow suit, right now GH's behaviour is what seems the most scummy to me. I don't think the information he's hiding is that he's some scanner because why would he hide that? That's what everybody thinks anyways if GH is town.

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Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS

Blatant OMGus. Where's the bandwagon when you need it?

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And still no reason why you voted for me twice now? But of course, I am OMGusing(?)

and really GH? after I told them you weren't scummy? Oh well, I'd like to stay alive too. unvote; vote: GeneralHankerchief

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stuka

and really GH? after I told them you weren't scummy?

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Tell you what, compromise?

Unvote: Mr. Stuka
Vote: TheLastDays

His vote's already on me. :tongue:



Askthepizzaguy rules!

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

I'll have to vote: GeneralHankerchief

This is not a pressure vote, this is a vote to get you lynched if you don't work for the town.

Honestly I see no reason for the way you wagoned Blackadder yesterday if you are a pro town role, now notice, I'm not saying Blackadder wasn't scum, he defended very poorly and looked scummy while doing so, but if you are not working for some personal goal other than a town win I don't see the reason for withholding the information you have... especially at a stage where there probably won't be any murders right now...

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Originally Posted by Believer

Vote: General Hankerchief

Seems reasonable for now.

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Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

That's the second time you're pushing for GH to reveal his information. While I have difficulties seeing a scummy motivation for him, to make this move on Day 2, I don't for you. Either you're picking the easiest lynch target around, or you want to get rid of a potential dangerous Town role. Either way it's a potential scummy motivation.

vote: TheLastDays

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A valid point but I'm not moving my vote as long as I don't have a better suspect than GH.

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Originally Posted by Believer

Unvote;
Vote: Abstain

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Huh? No reason given? Why? Just after Romanic has pointed out that voting for GH might put one on the scum-radar it's not "reasonable" anymore? Why was it "reasonable" before? Because you could jump onto a wagon unnoticed without really explaining it?

I think I have a better suspect...

unvote, vote: Believer

@GH: :furious3:

now I might have to rethink that...

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Tell you what, compromise?

Unvote: Mr. Stuka
Vote: TheLastDays

His vote's already on me. :tongue:

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Okay, sounds good to me. Now my vote goes back to ArpeggiateTHIS for 2 days of voting for me with no reason given. unvote, vote:ArpeggiateTHIS

Can't stay awake.... round will end at 00:40 regardless (the 24 hour mark) unless it's tied. If it is tied, the round will continue until you break the tie.

Will do writeup when I wake up.

test to see what time it is before I make an A** out of myself

Man my time is all jacked up.

The deadline was one hour ago.

Its 1030 am here, the sun rises at 0330, sets at 1900, the wind won't stop and I haven't pooped in 5 days. This be worse than Paktya

You need more vegetables in your system. Come here, let me drive this carrot through your heart. :wiseguy:

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Stuka: Arpeg, Secura, Renata,
GH: DE, PR,
TLD: Romanic, GH
MRD: IK
Believer: TLD
Arpeg: Stuka

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Talleh. Writeup to begin immediately soon.

DAY THREE





Askthepizzaguy: "Okay! Who is guilty of heresy this time?"


They looked toward their leader, General H. It seemed that Generals A through G were complete failures. Perhaps they were unprepared for leadership. But General H knew all about preparation. That's why his nickname was..... Hanky?


General Hanky: "General says do the Bartman!"


And it was so. They all did the Bartman.


General Hanky: "General says he's innocent."


And it was so. They all nodded in agreement.


General Hanky: "General says he's not a heretic!"


And it was so. They all nodded in agreement.


General Hanky: "General says that Mister Stuka will move his vote, and let me live!"


And it was so. Mister Stuka did exactly as he was told.


Askthepizzaguy: "You're freakish, I just want you to know that. People say I can make people do what I want, but you.... Hanky, are something else. You are the man who stares at goats."


General Hanky stared at a goat, and made it explode. Everyone applauded.


Then General Hanky stared at Mister Stuka, and he was blown into smithereens.


Askthepizzaguy: "Okay everyone! The sun went down a long time ago, and that means it's almost time to wake up and do this again. Get yourself about five minutes of sleep, and then I'll be in to wake you up with a garden hose."




Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:
Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:
Mr. Stuka- Boom, boom, boom.... even brighter than the moon, moon, moon. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/pissed.gif



This round will end in 24 hours. An extension will be granted if I don't get all the orders in.



NIGHT THREE

I do like Katy Perry.
...and I forgot TheLastDays changed his vote from GH....:wall:

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stuka

I do like Katy Perry.
...and I forgot TheLastDays changed his vote from GH....:wall:

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He has an obsession for voting me when I'm innocent. We all catch some of the bad sides of it now and then.

Oh, Stuka, that was friggin classic.

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Originally Posted by Believer

He has an obsession for voting me when I'm innocent. We all catch some of the bad sides of it now and then.

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Well, instead of smart-talking, you could explain your vote change last day. Especially why you changed it to an abstain D3.

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

Well, instead of smart-talking, you could explain your vote change last day. Especially why you changed it to an abstain D3.

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I couldn't let you lynch my cult leader, of course.

And what is the name of this cult?

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

Oh, Stuka, that was friggin classic.

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:2thumbsup: Great! that's the only reason I was playing you know, to get some laughs outta you guys with my wacky antics, such as dying!

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Originally Posted by Believer

I couldn't let you lynch my cult leader, of course.

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Come on, I never said you were trying to "save" GH. I said you were pulling out of a bandwagon after Romanic's post suggested that voting for GH could be interpreted as scummy. That's why I'm asking: If I am wrong, why did you change your vote, especially when you obviously didn't have a better suspect and thus abstained?

If you're still holding grudges because I made a mistake in Music Mafia, fine, I'll say again that I'm sorry but please answer my question...

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

And what is the name of this cult?

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Black September. Our main goal is to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and liberate the glorious nation of Serbia.

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

Come on, I never said you were trying to "save" GH. I said you were pulling out of a bandwagon after Romanic's post suggested that voting for GH could be interpreted as scummy. That's why I'm asking: If I am wrong, why did you change your vote, especially when you obviously didn't have a better suspect and thus abstained?

If you're still holding grudges because I made a mistake in Music Mafia, fine, I'll say again that I'm sorry but please answer my question...

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I had no suspects at all.

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Originally Posted by Believer

Black September. Our main goal is to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and liberate the glorious nation of Serbia.

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My old archnemesis!

I'll post an update after work.... which is in about 11 hours from now.

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Originally Posted by Believer

I had no suspects at all.

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Ok, then why vote GH in the first place and what has changed between your vote for him and your abstain?

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

Ok, then why vote GH in the first place and what has changed between your vote for him and your abstain?

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I wanted to pressure him into opening up about his info he had on CB.

I realized he wouldn't do it.

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Originally Posted by Believer

I wanted to pressure him into opening up about his info he had on CB.

I realized he wouldn't do it.

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Hello,

You're starting to sound like Saregona.

You certainly look like him.

NIGHT THREE




OUCH!!!

OUCH!!!!



You wake up and see Askthepizzaguy at the foot of your bed, beating you with a garden hose.



Askthepizzaguy: "WAKE UP!!! WAKE UP!!! It's time for more heretic-hunting, sleepy-head!!! BWAHAHAHAAAA!!!!"



You're really starting to hate that guy.






Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:
Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:
Mr. Stuka- Boom, boom, boom.... even brighter than the moon, moon, moon. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/pissed.gif



This round will end in 24 hours.



DAY FOUR

vote:GeneralHankerchief I just don't think he has been all that helpful to the town cause.

Vote: Secura

Post more, we need you if town.

vote: Ibn-Khaldun

say something...

What do you want me to say?

Well don't you have anything to say?

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Originally Posted by Believer

Post more, we need you if town.

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This is a fair point, though I'm unsure whether you're merely trying to encourage me into posting more or you're actually implying that I might be lurking, which I abhor and wouldn't resort to were I town or scum.

Anyway, I'm going to vote: classical_hero today.

Your vote feels a little lazy and seems to lack any real conviction this time around; you accuse GH of being disruptive to the town's cause, but he only seems so because you're allowing his behaviour to distract you.

Lynching GH isn't going to result in him revealing his reasons for the Blackadder lynch, and in a game with no reveals we only have Blackadder's word that he was innocent, which begs the question of what you hope to achieve by lynching GH? Heck, I'd also like to know what it is that GH would have to gain by getting Blackadder lynched when he could've employed that tactic against someone like Renata or Romanic?

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Originally Posted by Secura

This is a fair point, though I'm unsure whether you're merely trying to encourage me into posting more or you're actually implying that I might be lurking, which I abhor and wouldn't resort to were I town or scum.

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No mistress, I would never dare! Please don't hurt Believer. Believer good!

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Originally Posted by Secura

Your vote feels a little lazy and seems to lack any real conviction this time around; you accuse GH of being disruptive to the town's cause, but he only seems so because you're allowing his behaviour to distract you.

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You got me by the balls here. I have nothing good, that's why I'm poking better players for something.

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Originally Posted by Secura

Lynching GH isn't going to result in him revealing his reasons for the Blackadder lynch, and in a game with no reveals we only have Blackadder's word that he was innocent, which begs the question of what you hope to achieve by lynching GH? Heck, I'd also like to know what it is that GH would have to gain by getting Blackadder lynched when he could've employed that tactic against someone like Renata or Romanic?

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Perhaps. I was considering the fact that he might be bluffing. Obviously he wasn't, or he's too cool to give it away to some pressure.
I lack good initiative in this game, I want something tangible but can't seem to grasp at it. Give me something to shoot!

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Originally Posted by Believer

You got me by the balls here. I have nothing good, that's why I'm poking better players for something.

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My comments after the vote were aimed at classical_hero, not you! :3

Vote: Believer.

unvote, vote: classical_hero

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Originally Posted by Secura

My comments after the vote were aimed at classical_hero, not you! :3

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I stand by my balls and your grip of them.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Vote: Believer.

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Sup?

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

Well don't you have anything to say?

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Actualy, no. This is not exactly the usual mafia game and I'm really confused.

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Originally Posted by Believer

Sup?

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I just did, thank you very much.

Vote: Major Robert Dump

I still think he is guilty.

No.

Vote: Believer

Because he is in a cult

Since that's a pretty definitive statement:

Vote: Believer


Askthepizzaguy rules!

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

I just did, thank you very much.

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I think the forum rules dictate that we both speak and interpret in English, my nordic friend. :)

Why vote me? (The same goes for MJD and GH)

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

No.

Vote: Believer

Because he is in a cult

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Do you know this for a fact?

I don't understand this from you TheLastDays:

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

vote: Ibn-Khaldun

say something...

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

What do you want me to say?

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

Well don't you have anything to say?

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

unvote, vote: classical_hero

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How are you satisfied enough with Ibn's answer to unvote him?

The "don't you have anything to say?" implies that Ibn should have something to say, and you're right, he should have, if he's looking for scum. But then you simply unvote him before he answers.

Plus you're now voting classical_hero without giving a reason. Why?

vote: TheLastDays

I might switch to Believer if MRD's answer is satisfactory, but I ain't going to follow another "hidden claim" like GH's, not coming from MRD anyway, after I've seen the mess he made in ATPG Mafia 2.

After scummy conversations in private and even scummier dark-alley transactions I have decided upon the following.

Unvote;
Vote: TheLastDays

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Originally Posted by Believer

I think the forum rules dictate that we both speak and interpret in English, my nordic friend. :)

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Sup: To take or drink in swallows or gulps.
Chiefly dialect: to take food and especially liquid food into the mouth a little at a time.

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Why vote me? (The same goes for MJD and GH)

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The same reason I've voted you before; You're hiding in the skirts of others (Secura!).

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Sup: To take or drink in swallows or gulps.
Chiefly dialect: to take food and especially liquid food into the mouth a little at a time.

The same reason I've voted you before; You're hiding in the skirts of others (Secura!).

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Ah. That's about what it means in Swedish aswell, I thought you were responding at that.

I'm not hiding anything. I'm trying to come up with something but I can't, so I'm poking someone for activity for the benefit of the town. I'm posting at all hours and people are free to ask me about anything. I'm being completely open.

Believer, you had PM conversation with TheLastDays?

vote: TheLast Days

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Originally Posted by Believer

After scummy conversations in private and even scummier dark-alley transactions I have decided upon the following.

Unvote;
Vote: TheLastDays

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So is that an OMGUS for last vote on you or for Music Mafia? Or the joining of an argument by yet someone else in Romanic?

unvote, vote: Believer

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Originally Posted by Romanic

How are you satisfied enough with Ibn's answer to unvote him?

The "don't you have anything to say?" implies that Ibn should have something to say, and you're right, he should have, if he's looking for scum. But then you simply unvote him before he answers.

Plus you're now voting classical_hero without giving a reason. Why?

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It's not so much about being completely satisfied with an answer than about getting a bunch of answers. Sometimes unvoting someone can be as effective as voting for them, I got my answer after I unvoted him. You're right, he should have an answer. That he doesn't have an answer is also an answer.

Plus, I wanted to support Secura's argument by putting more pressure on classical_hero and since I was at work I wasn't sure when I'd be able to post again. Unfortunately he hasn't answered, although pressured.

Now I'd like to know why you seem so intent to critique my votes? IMO they make sense and I'm trying to do something at least.

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Originally Posted by Populus Romanus

Believer, you had PM conversation with TheLastDays?

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No, he did not. That's another GH-like argument he's pulling off there.

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

Now I'd like to know why you seem so intent to critique my votes? IMO they make sense and I'm trying to do something at least.

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I've said why I critique your vote:

1) Your vote on Ibn is fine, but the unvote is strange, given his answer.
2) Your vote on CH was unexplained.

But if you were asking why I critique your votes then I'll reply that I am looking for scumbags. What kind of question is that anyway? :smug2:

As for why Believer moved his vote, I asked him to, to pressure you, and also see how he would react. I can't say that I liked his reaction, as he started on the defensive, stating that I might be a cultist trying to trick him, but he eventually did it. As far as I'm concerned, you two are satisfactory lynches for now.

And I'm still waiting for MRD's explanation *tap* *tap*

Tally time perhaps?

4 Believer (Diamondeye, Major Robert Dump, GeneralHankerchief, TheLastDays)
3 TheLastDays (Romanic, Believer, Populus Romanus)
1 GeneralHankerchief (classical_hero)
1 classical_hero (Secura)
1 Major Robert Dump (Ibn Khaldun)
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4 not voting (ArpeggiateTHIS, Renata, robbiecon, Seon)

So he was lying about the PMs? Then I shall put another nail in his coffin. unvote; vote: believer

I don't have an explanation. We lynch people in cults, therefore, when I decide to lynch someone, I will say I think they are in a cult. There is nothing I have on Believer that I don't have on every other person in this game, as I can't scan, haven't had PMs with people and haven't been recruited (yet). Based on the timeframe and number of night, each cult should have had 3-4 people now if they started with just one, assume 1 or two have been lynched, that means town is greatly outnumbered right now.

so yeah, Believer is in a cult.

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Originally Posted by Believer

Black September. Our main goal is to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and liberate the glorious nation of Serbia.



I had no suspects at all.

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See, he even says so here

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Originally Posted by Populus Romanus

So he was lying about the PMs? Then I shall put another nail in his coffin. unvote; vote: believer

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I haven't lied about anything. Refer to this by Romanic:

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As for why Believer moved his vote, I asked him to, to pressure you, and also see how he would react. I can't say that I liked his reaction, as he started on the defensive, stating that I might be a cultist trying to trick him, but he eventually did it. As far as I'm concerned, you two are satisfactory lynches for now.

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I never stated that I was in contact with TLD.

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

We lynch people in cults.

so yeah, Believer is in a cult.

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Seeing the rules of the game, cultists should be the best townies around. If you suspect someone is a cultist you can be pretty clear that person is your best friend, since he will most likely be gunning for his own cult leader.
Why?
Once his leader is dead he will revert back to his original town alignment. Looking at this setup it's easy to see that a town victory is easier than a cult victory. So no, I don't think we should lynch people because they are cultists. Cult leaders, definately.
With all this said and your logic flawed; I am not a cultist and neither am I a cult leader.

I come here and I am not yet dead. This must mean Renata must be a cultist, for she would never allow me to die. Vote: Renny

Time up. Allow me to get settled, do a tally, and advance the round.

DAY FOUR




The assembled peasants grumbled at their shoddy treatment, and began accusing one another of being a heretic. The discussion was light. People seemed to be pointing fingers without much reason. But soon, a large group pointed their fingers at one man. And that man was a Believer.

A Believer in what? Voodoo? Faeries? Love at first sight? Or perhaps he was a Believer in some foul, dastardly, un-Pizzalike religion!


Askthepizzaguy: "Is this him? Is this the guy?"


Several folks looked at GeneralHankerchief, who nodded.


General Hanky: "General says Believer is guilty."


Believer: "I'm not a heretic, I'm not a heretic! I'm a true Believer!"


Askthepizzaguy: "It doesn't matter, Believer man! It doesn't matter! For you have crossed the line, and defied the word of Generalissimo Francisco Frankerchief!"


Major Robert Dump: "Actually, now they're playing Major Robert Dump says."


Askthepizzaguy: "Are they? Are they? Or are you just a puppet of the General, an underling, sent in his stead? Will you die in the line of duty, just like the Captain before you? And where did you all get these military ranks? You're just a bunch of silly wheat farmers! I'm out of it for a little while and everybody gets delusions of grandeur!"







Major Robert Dump: "................Dump says he's guilty! DUMP! DUMP! DUMP!!"



And so, the crowd grabbed Believer, and dumped him unceremoniously in the wheat thresher.


Askthepizzaguy: "Ok.... meeting adjourned. Back to bed, peasants!"




Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:

Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:
Mr. Stuka- Boom, boom, boom.... even brighter than the moon, moon, moon. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/pissed.gif

Believer- Died going against the grain. :grin:


This round will end in 24 hours, please remember to send in orders. I'll grant an extension if necessary.





NIGHT FOUR

I am a virgin