Hmmm - this Communist fellow doesn't sound like the Townie type.
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Hmmm - this Communist fellow doesn't sound like the Townie type.
:stare:
vote: arjos Same reason as yesterday.
Something I find interesting about the list of players - 1-4 are dead, everyone else lives. May be a coincidence but I find it strange.
I'm responsible for 2 & 3. Atheotes is responsible for 1.
It's a coincidence. Vote Crow!
As you made quite clear, all your scenarios had another lynch (most of all Monty was clearing a victim and didn't lie about his role), while you could have simply abstained and still save yourself: to me that's not survival alone, that's getting rid of as many people as possible too...Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
Now you are making this weak distraction about the players' numbers...
Vote: BSmith
vote: Lazy McCrow
No change in my reasoning since yesterday, although there's the added mystery as to how you managed to survive with a lead in the lynch tally. It seems to fit with the Communist gaining power through no lynches.
unvote; vote: robbiecon. Has he contributed at all in this game?
On second thought, I think I saw somewhere that robbie was in finals the past week, so that could explain his absence. I’ll throw my hat in for the Lazy lynch.
unvote; vote: Lazy
Because I'm the only one who's more likely to get lynched than you? Seems all your 'theories' are cast to the wind now that there is a 'safer' option for you to stay alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
For self-preservation:
unvote: Ishmael, vote: BSmith
Unvote; Vote: BSmith
There is a reason for all my “theories”. Ultimately it came down to a decision between you and Ishmael. For better or worse, I picked you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
Two things – no need to unvote when you haven’t voted yet. :wink: Also – care to give a reason for your vote?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveShack
So - today's voting menu for you is: First you vote Arjos, then vote robbiecon, then decide that its a decision between me and Ishmael??!! - please excuse my extraneous exclamation marks but that just clashes with the notion of having any kind of theory. I mean - I don't trust Ishmael this game either, but after your last post, I'm happy to keep my self-preservation vote on you, if it keeps me alive another day and maybe I can actually do some good tonight. The targets of my night powers have been poor choices so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
Remove the names, look at the mechanic and you are closer to understanding my position. My goal is to lynch a scum while doing certain things. Convince me you are not scum and I’ll change my vote.
Well - my goal is a town victory. Using my power to get a mafia deaded adds golden sprinkles on that. My vote is on you - not because I think you are the best candidate for scum, but that a vote on you is my best chance of self-preservation atm. I'm happy to change to Ishmael if you are as I think he's emminently scummier than you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
unvote: BSmith vote: Ishmael.
Jump on or I'll jump back
unvote; vote: Ishmael. Let's see where this goes.
Whatever charges your batteries homes. :2thumbsup::Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
Couldn't remember if I had voted, and didn't feel like looking. As for why, I knew why when I voted, but nyquil has intervened and I can't remember now.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
I can go along with Ishmael though. Vote analysis showed something was up with him. Unvote: Vote Ishmael
Very weird Lazy and BSmith teaming up...
But the worst was Dave, he jumped twice and seems like he didn't even bother to check or anything...
Unvote; Vote: DaveShack
Rrggghh
Vote: DaveShack, it looks a lot like Lazy McCrow and DaveShack are the mafia, with that voting pattern today, and with so few people left, it's all about getting a lynch and a kill tonight, which is why either BSmith or Ishmael will do for the lynch (assuming they are both town).
This post is so scummy I am almost convinced of your innocence. No self-respecting scum would make a post like this… or would they?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveShack
Having played with DaveShack for quite a while now, I have to say that it is most uncharacteristic of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
I'm so freakin' clueless this game it's not even funny. To be honest, I'm not getting a good read on anyone.
My defense is that scum killed me in the first place, and the communist resurrected me. Ergo I'm not scum.
And the nyquil comment was serious. I've gone through a box of kleenex in the last 24 hours. :blank2:
How do you know it was scum? Surely there are townies or neutrals in this game with a kill or two.
Vote Crow and all will be forgiven.
Which is why I don't think he is scum. His post is way to obvious, especially for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by robbiecon
Hmm, interesting developments overnight.
unvote, vote: Daveshack.
Sorry, but the Lazy/BSmith teaming forced me into it.
Ishmael was hung from the gallows for crimes against mafia players, and as he choked to death, his murdering tools fell out of his clothes.
The town gasped in shock at this mild mannered man who had massacred people.
Ishmael has been lynched.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Alive: 5/10
5. LazyMcCrow
7. BSmith
8. Arjos
9. Robbiecon
10. DaveShack
Dead 5/10:
3. Nightbringer (Lover), committed suicide N1.
1. Montmorency (Town), lynched D2.
2. atheotes (Town), suicided D2.
4. SalmonSoil (Town), killed N3.
6. Ishmael (Mafia), lynched D4.
Time:
Arjos: You're next, then Robbie if we need to. :yes:
Mild-mannered? Me?
At least I lasted a bit longer as mafia this game :beam:.
Kinda hard not to. :laugh4:
What do you say to that Monty? Seriously. You've been trying to lynch me ever since you got it wrong with Atheotes the first time.
You could easily be an unassociated scum. But, as the No Lynch is a thing of the past, I'm willing to consider alternatives.
BSmith - why Arjos before Robbiecon?
Let’s take a look at our two subjects:
Late to the wagon with atheotes. His first meaningful post all game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
This is in reference to the Monty lynch. Helpful, yet safe post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
An OK argument. But if he is scum and knows I am innocent then it is a great argument to try to get me lynched. You look for opportunities like this to come across as helpful townie and try to direct the lynch. I posted a defense to my actions in thread, but arjos doesn’t react until the next Day, after I vote for him again:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
Not lynching anyone on the face of it sounds like a good idea for the town to do. Less townies dead is the overall goal, and lynchees are usually townie. This is a counterproductive strategy though as it allows the scum to survive as well and do bad things to the town at night. Lynching is a town’s main, and usually only, weapon. To not use it is a big detriment to the town effort. This is especially true in a cult game, and cult undertones are present in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
Arjos continues to push my lynch based on this false reasoning, until I let on more about my role and Lazy and I “team up” on the Ishmael lynch. It is no longer likely that Lazy or I will be lynched this day, so to try to save his partner, Arjos jumps on a really off statement by DaveShack in hopes of starting a counter wagon.
Cue Robbiecon who (with his second post of the game I believe) lends his support to the DaveShack lynch after DaveShack also votes for Ishmael:
Now Robbie could be strategically choosing his time to get back in the game to save Ishmael as well. This is a distinct possibility. It is also possible that both Arjos and Robbie are Ishmael's team members, and both are scum. Ishmael dutifully changes his vote to DaveShack as well in an attempt to save himself. On the face of it the vote is now a 3-3 tie, and it quite possibly has worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by robbiecon
Neither Arjos nor Robbie pull back from the DaveShack vote after I point out the obvious flaw in their reasoning: DaveShack is too good and careful of a player to make such a blatantly scummy statement like he did if he were indeed scum.
Bottom line – I think Arjos and Robbie are quite scummy here. Arjos consistently making “good” arguments to try to get an innocent lynched, yet still staying in the background and not really being talkative or upfront in any other way. Robbie for his lurktastic performance and his swoop at the end to try to save one of his buddies. I’m fine with either one of them for the lynch, but have a better feel for Arjos, which is why I put him first.
Arjos – feel free to post more about yourself to help with this decision. Robbie you too.
Good. I share your instincts about Dave and also your reasoning behind Robbiecons' vote as a last ditch vote to save Ishmael. For that reason I figure Robbiecon is most suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
What about Arjos - what do you think of him?
I didn't vote Ishmael, because his case, was a mutual OMGUS between him and Lazy...
Tbh I saw it as townies having a go at eachother...
Dave has been acting funny since he got revived, 'til last phase I thought he was converted and somehow controlled: his votes had such a "made up" feeling...
Let's talk about you, shall we? Anything you would like to say in your defense? Tell me why we shouldn't lynch you tomorrow.
You already twisted all my reasonable votes...
I followed my logic and once trusted Monty, because he made plausible claims and didn't see any reason not to give him credit...
I just happened to be on the wrong side of a good lynch, which if you ask me had a flimsy case...
To be honest, I had been considering taking my vote off DaveShack. I had been thinking about the fact that he had been revived this game, and I don't know whether or not revived people tend to be the same role, or different, but I still felt like something was odd about it. I voted him because I thought that himself and Lazy McCrow were in cahoots, but I see now that I was wrong.
I had thought that Ishmael voting for Lazy again was a fair enough vote, and I had looked through his posts and didn't originally see anything odd. But now I see that his first vote for Lazy McCrow seemed to be a nice subtle bandwagon. After all any lynch will do.
It also appears as though my vote does NOT count in a regular lynch, only for No Lynch, unless there's a tiebreaker out there.
It's evident that BSmith and Lazy McCrow are not in cahoots, and I'm pretty sure I know why DaveShack's votes were placed as they turned out.
Which only leaves me and Arjos for you to choose. And it ain't me you're lookin' for babe.
Round over, calculating.
BSmith had a headache that was solved when a sledgehammer was driven through his face.
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Summary of events:
BSmith has been killed.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Alive: 4/10
5. LazyMcCrow
8. Arjos
9. Robbiecon
10. DaveShack
Dead 6/10:
3. Nightbringer (Lover), committed suicide N1.
1. Montmorency (Town), lynched D2.
2. atheotes (Town), suicided D2.
4. SalmonSoil (Town), killed N3.
6. Ishmael (Mafia), lynched D4.
7. BSmith (Town), killed N4.
Time:
Tally:
1 Arjos (Robbiecon)
Great, now I'm getting framed :S
Vote: robbiecon
And very sleazy power there...
Round ends in 24.5 hours from this post btw.
Ishmael's partner can't be Lazy McCrow, not after voting for him so many times.
Arjos or robbiecon? I think Arjos, but would like to hear final arguments.
This is the final lynch. Choose wisely...
I know its not robbiecon. So did a mafia get reesussed on the first night!? - or is Arjos our man? I'll go with BSmiths instincts unless anyone can persuade me otherwise.
vote: Arjos
Not necessarily :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Ha! Just because I was mafia, doesn't mean I wasn't correct, you dirty socialist fascist freedom-hating hippy necromancer :beam:.Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
Just because you were mafia doesn't mean you weren't correct.... that's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishmael
....but you weren't.
I don't see why you're bothering to back-pedal after you all but admitted to being the Communist in your previous post - it seems pretty evident the town is happy to win with you (if that's possible, of course).
Nonsense scum. I admitted to nothing of the sort. I am POWER-Town. And you are dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishmael
Somehow I knew this was going to happen to me. :skull:
I still stand by Arjos for the lynch, though I'd be interested in knowing why Lazy doesn't think Robbie is scum.
I'd like to answer that but with a scum still alive it wouldn't be prudent to spell it out. There IS a possibility that I am mistaken due to other unknown powers being used last night. But I am reasonably certain.
I figured I probably wouldn't get the answer until the game was over. :bow:
Vote: Arjos
Round Over. Tallying and calculating.
Arjos has been chosen to be lynched. He was sliced and diced...
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Begin Night Five. Orders in Please.
Alive: 4/10
5. LazyMcCrow
8. Arjos
9. Robbiecon
10. DaveShack
Dead 6/10:
3. Nightbringer (Lover), committed suicide N1.
1. Montmorency (Town), lynched D2.
2. atheotes (Town), suicided D2.
4. SalmonSoil (Town), killed N3.
6. Ishmael (Mafia), lynched D4.
7. BSmith (Town), killed N4.
Time:
That hurt! XD
If we don't get the mafia soon, I'll die for real though :S
Lazy walked slowly up the hill to the cemetery where his friends were buried. Montmorency, Atheotes, SalmonSoil, BSmith. Four graves were placed in the dirt, freshly tilled. Lazy knelt down at the newest addition, BSmith’s grave. He exhaled slowly as the rain began to pour down, he wished he had bought a jumper, or an umbrella. “I will finish what we started. I will end this menace. Tonight Arjos will face his demons and he will not survive.”
Lazy heard a click behind him. His head dropped, and he spoke, “So it is time then.”
He heard laughter emanating and he turned to face it. Arjos was standing 10 metres away from him, shotgun in hand. “Game over Crow. Start digging.” He pointed the gun at the shovel and motioned for Lazy to pick it up. Lazy shook his head, “Not happening. I’m not going anywhere.” Arjos laughed softly and fired, the blast lighting up the ground around Lazy. “I won’t say it again, dig!” he said, louder this time.
Lazy stood his ground, and Arjos fired again, this time into Lazy’s stomach. Lazy screamed as the bullets ripped his flesh. He fell to his knees, blood seeping everywhere. Arjos walked up to his face. “Goodnight, sweet dreams!” and fired the shotgun, but the shotgun clicked. The smile turned into a frown as he pressed it again with no result. Lazy began to laugh. “What do you have to laugh about?”
“This.”
Lazy’s eyes turned white and he began to shake as Arjos stepped back. He felt the gun moving in his hands, slowly turning around to face him. Arjos tried to fight it, but it was impossible. He tried to throw it away, but he couldn’t. The gun turned around until he was holding the shotgun up to his face. It fired. Pieces of Arjos were scattered everywhere. Lazy fell to the ground, dead.
The next morning, DaveShack and Robbiecon gathered in the center of the town. No-one else was around.
“Looks like it’s just you and me.” Robbiecon said, smiling.
“DaveShack looked nervously at Robbiecon, “I don’t want any trouble, I just want to get out of here.”
“Why don’t you join me?
“Join you?”
“I am the one responsible for the resurrections. I am the Communist. Come with me and we can liberate others.”
“I… I think I just want to get out of here. Where are you headed?”
“Who knows?” He smiled. “Wherever the road takes me.”
DaveShack thought for a while. He looked around at the abandoned town. Then he nodded.
Alive: 2/10
9. Robbiecon
10. DaveShack
Dead 8/10:
3. Nightbringer (Lover), committed suicide N1.
1. Montmorency (Town), lynched D2.
2. atheotes (Town), suicided D2.
4. SalmonSoil (Town), killed N3.
6. Ishmael (Mafia), lynched D4.
7. BSmith (Town), killed N4.
5. LazyMcCrow (Town), killed N5.
8. Arjos (Mafia), killed by karmic retribution N5.
COMMUNIST VICTORY
(Robbiecon)
NEUTRAL VICTORY
(DaveShack)
Congratulations Robbiecon and DaveShack.
Role PM's and victory to be announced shortly.
Ahahahahah GG ^^
There were so many powers XD
Really enjoyed the game, thanks for hosting Visor!
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/5Yms3Q8dF4e
Mafia QT. They did a good job with a hard situation.
I didn't save my PM's, so it would be good if you could post them.
Anyway, commentary would be good.
Monty was Cupid (Lazy's Role), and could choose two people to be lovers. (He chose Dave and Nightbringer)
Dave had a one shot ability to force someone to vote for a person of his choosing (A minor twist on Robbie's role). He used it to make Robbie vote Arjos.
When Dave was resurrected, he came back as a neutral survivor, with a personal goal that was something along the lines of use the vote to lynch the guy who killed you. Well, he used it to lynch a faction member, and that's good enough, IMO.
Ishmael was a Bus Driver (BSmith's role), he switched Nightbringer with Arjos when the Aura appeared the second time to give Arjos an extra life.
Monty sent me an extremely detailed role, in which that I decided to choose the resurrection on a lynch part, and made that his role. That was Robbies.
Robbie actually mentioned that his vote counted twice for no lynch and that he voted no lynch on the third day should have been indication enough that he was the Communist. I should've given him one shot bulletproof as opposed to full bulletproof.
Nightbringer was a one shot vig (DaveShack's role) that assumed the role of the target he killed. I was interested to see where this lead, but unfortunately never got the chance.
Arjos had The Nightbringer (Nightbringer's role) that allowed him to make one action unroleblockable, bypass protects/busdrives, etc. Unfortunately, it can't penetrate resurections, and it wouldn't kill Robbie. (That was bad balancing on my part).
LazyMcCrow had Deva (Atheotes's role) which allowed him to choose a player, and any night actions they take were duplicated against themselves. That's why Arjos died.
Atheotes was a Time Bandit (SalmonSoil's role, well similar) in that he could write a list of actions to undertake every night and then when he posted DayKill: Self, he died, and roleblocked the people he had selected. Which may have brought someone to life.
When Atheotes used that power, it didn't invalidate the votes on him. BSmith's power put Monty up to a tie, and then Monty lost the coin flip.
BSmith had the ability of a double voter (Ishmael's role) but he had to unvote and revote at least twice and not onto the same person on even days, and at least once on odd days. He made the Ishamel lynch pretty much.
SalmonSoil was a tiebreaker (Arjos's role), he could choose which person to lynch, or let me decide. No lynch kept him safe, townie killed him instead, mafia third party killed them. He could also choose to let me decide.
D5 had one townie, one neutral, one mafia and one third party. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
I enjoyed hosting it, and espeically enjoyed seeing people discuss the game.
BTW typical that the sick maniac who invented robbie's role was Monty :P
*Shakes fist in the air* Damn you! :D
I used my power to choose no lynches wherever I could, mostly because I was never convinced of the victims guilt and I thought it would buy us more time. Not certain this was the best strategy.
Boy.
Here's the thing about Mini-games:
- I always fail hard
- Arjos is probably scum
gg all. I used my powers of karma against Arjos the night noone died! - that threw me off his scent. SOrry BSmith - If I'd used my karmic powers against Arjos again instead of Robbiecon, you'd still be alive, Arjos would have been killed and we'd be celebrating a town victory...maybe :)
gg all - I enjoyed this one.
Well played all, it was a very enjoyable game! The powers kept things nice and interesting.
EDIT: By the way, the night nobody died was when we targeted robbiecon. It wasn't a fiendish plan on our part.
Yeah, I guessed that the night no-one died was because I had been targeted. I kept a bit too much out of the limelight here, partially because of exams, partially because I was kind of afraid of being lynched. I could have posted on the last day, but I wasn't sure why my vote had gone on Arjos automatically. I hadn't forgotten what my suggested role had been, of the Briber, but I was sure that it had been used on DaveShack or BSmith by LazyMcCrow, when both of their votes followed Lazy's twice in a row on Day 4.
Pretty neat idea for a game, having the roles submitted by the players and randomizing them. Would definitely be up for something similar again in future.
This was a great game. I loved the aspect of the player generated roles. As you can now see, I had to vote for a lot of people for my ability to work. Something quite unnatural for me. :yes:
Hey, you left out some of my role's abilities!
For posterity, here is what I sent for the role. If others want to post theirs as well I would enjoy seeing more detailed descriptions. In any case, this was a great idea for a game, and I wish I could have been around for more of it.
The Nightbringer
The Nightbringer brings a shroud of the truest blackest night around those he aids, ensuring that no others interfere with their nighttime activities.
At night, this role chooses one player.
Any night action that player takes automatically succeeds.
This means that busing, role-blocking, etc... does NOT function on the player chosen. It also means that they are able to penetrate protections etc... on any player they target.
Additionally, because the Nightbringer is so good at making it nighttime, he may choose to end a single day early. This action must be pmed to the GM at the time he chooses to do so. Any votes cast after that pm is sent are nullified, and whoever the leading candidate was at the time of the pm is lynched.