Resident Evil 2: DISCUSSION THREAD

I just tried to post a youtube video and this is what I got, LOL

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Originally Posted by El Barto

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And, as long as you're signing up for mafia games, come check out my game on CFC! It has epic amounts of villains, heroes, and convoluted evil plans by cartoon villains! And at least one Giant Robot!

But is it a Giant Death Robot?

Writeup for 8:15 PM (Movement Phase One) is now Posted




Status: You're waiting on me to send out your result PMs. Please be patient, these also take a while. Interactive Phase One starts as soon as this process is complete.


Please read and enjoy the asskicking that is about to commence, while you wait.

I targeted Visor with my ultrascan and he registered as Godfather.

vote: Takhisis because this is obviously a cunning plan, and by cunning, I mean pretentious and not actually cunning - which would be just like Tak.

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Originally Posted by Double A

I targeted Visor with my ultrascan and he registered as Godfather.

vote: Takhisis because this is obviously a cunning plan, and by cunning, I mean pretentious and not actually cunning - which would be just like Tak.

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Wrong thread, or silly Double A being silly again?

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

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Originally Posted by Double A

I targeted Visor with my ultrascan and he registered as Godfather.

vote: Takhisis because this is obviously a cunning plan, and by cunning, I mean pretentious and not actually cunning - which would be just like Tak.

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Wrong thread, or silly Double A being silly again?

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We can't risk the possibility that we're letting him live with such WIFOM. Even if he's a vengeful lynchee or a jester, we have to lynch him. vote: Double A

Ah, thank god there's only zombies dead.

You know, it's almost midnight and I've been at this since 7am. I took a break, got delayed by work, but that's gonna have to be a day, for me. My mind's turning to jelly when I try to piece together the update cards. It's almost done, I just have to insert a description of where you are, how sturdy the buildings, an approximate image of your surroundings, and list off all the people and zombies you see.

I already have update cards with your previous orders, your current stats, your inventory, the item you found, your new location, and so forth, but.... I can't bring myself to juggle the 4 or 5 windows I need to have open to slip in the rest of your (absolutely vital and necessary) data. I can't send out the cards without it, and I can no longer concentrate enough to slog through. The lapses in concentration are slowing me down, and I don't have hours left in me. Therefore I should sleep first before tackling it.

I'll do much better for Movement Phase Two, I already see several time-savers which will help me get this done hours sooner. But for right now, I'm going to cry uncle until I get some sleep.

I gave you guys an extension, now I need one. :laugh4: just barely, but I do. Can't quite make it to the finish line.

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Originally Posted by Jolt

Ah, thank god there's only zombies dead.

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All zombies are dead, but not all rectangles are squares.

Wait, what?

The Zombies are undead.

Go to sleep, pizzaguy, and in the morning you should infract choxorn for not asking authorisation for advertising. And for stealing my asterisms.

Stress less pizza and go sleep man lol. We'll all be here when you get back. We have faith.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Wrong thread, or silly Double A being silly again?

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I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

We can't risk the possibility that we're letting him live with such WIFOM. Even if he's a vengeful lynchee or a jester, we have to lynch him. vote: Double A

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Are you playing Dig Dug: Gravekeeper Edition, Mr WIFOMypants?

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Originally Posted by El Barto

The Zombies are undead.

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What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.

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Originally Posted by Stildawn

Stress less pizza and go sleep man lol. We'll all be here when you get back. We have faith.

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I didn't foresee which parts of the update cards I needed to have done ahead of time. Which I could have done simultaneously with other tasks.

The only way to work out the bugs is to run through the list one by one and find out what needs to be better for next time.

Now that I have character card / update card templates created and alphabetized for every one of the 51 players, I could easily input and output the data contained within.

From this point onward, it is essentially copying a list and editing it as I go, as opposed to piecing it together from multiple sources (role Pm source, orders thread, search results thread, battle results thread, map/movement thread....) which took freaking forever.

Don't get me wrong, what I have to do every round will still take the better part of a day, but it won't be still going 3/4 of a day into it.

Since there's still stuff remaining that only the primary Host can do, I can't even pass the ball to my co-hosts, who ordinarily would be running it into the endzone for me. Think I gotta finish this one off myself, work out how and where I can pass the ball along for next phase so there won't be a delay of this type again.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You know, it's almost midnight and I've been at this since 7am. I took a break, got delayed by work, but that's gonna have to be a day, for me. My mind's turning to jelly when I try to piece together the update cards. It's almost done, I just have to insert a description of where you are, how sturdy the buildings, an approximate image of your surroundings, and list off all the people and zombies you see.

I already have update cards with your previous orders, your current stats, your inventory, the item you found, your new location, and so forth, but.... I can't bring myself to juggle the 4 or 5 windows I need to have open to slip in the rest of your (absolutely vital and necessary) data. I can't send out the cards without it, and I can no longer concentrate enough to slog through. The lapses in concentration are slowing me down, and I don't have hours left in me. Therefore I should sleep first before tackling it.

I'll do much better for Movement Phase Two, I already see several time-savers which will help me get this done hours sooner. But for right now, I'm going to cry uncle until I get some sleep.

I gave you guys an extension, now I need one. :laugh4: just barely, but I do. Can't quite make it to the finish line.

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No worries ATPG. Take a day off if you need it.

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Originally Posted by Nick Royale

Fever gone but itchy. Hungry and eat doggy food. Itchy Itchy leafs came. Ugly face so killed him. Tasty.

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wrong movie, that was cabin in the woods!!!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by Zack

What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.

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what is viagra for 200$ mr trabec!!!

I wonder why are those zombies so easy to kill...
where is challenge in it????

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Originally Posted by Jarema

I wonder why are those zombies so easy to kill...
where is challenge in it????

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the numbers

Just fyi Pizzaguy, the enjoyment I derive from the story thread will be a linear function of the number of hot Milla Jovovich pics.

Just fyi Pizzaguy, the enjoyment I derive from the story thread will be a linear function of the number of dead zombies.

I think death in general is adviced, doesn't matter much to me if it's dead zombies or makrells.

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Originally Posted by Nick Royale

I think death in general is adviced, doesn't matter much to me if it's dead zombies or makrells.

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Dead makrells you can eat, dead zombies are inedible, so I prefer Makrells :juggle:

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Originally Posted by Darth Feather

Dead makrells you can eat, dead zombies are inedible, so I prefer Makrells :juggle:

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i think atpg has given us enoguh incentive to not go in the water, so i would not do that if i were you.

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Originally Posted by Darth Feather

Dead makrells you can eat, dead zombies are inedible, so I prefer Makrells :juggle:

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but they all smell the same

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Originally Posted by Double A

Are you playing Dig Dug: Gravekeeper Edition, Mr WIFOMypants?

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Now you're PISsing me off!

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Originally Posted by Zack

What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.

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Mwahahahaa!

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I didn't foresee which parts of the update cards I needed to have done ahead of time. Which I could have done simultaneously with other tasks.

The only way to work out the bugs is to run through the list one by one and find out what needs to be better for next time.

Now that I have character card / update card templates created and alphabetized for every one of the 51 players, I could easily input and output the data contained within.

From this point onward, it is essentially copying a list and editing it as I go, as opposed to piecing it together from multiple sources (role Pm source, orders thread, search results thread, battle results thread, map/movement thread....) which took freaking forever.

Don't get me wrong, what I have to do every round will still take the better part of a day, but it won't be still going 3/4 of a day into it.

Since there's still stuff remaining that only the primary Host can do, I can't even pass the ball to my co-hosts, who ordinarily would be running it into the endzone for me. Think I gotta finish this one off myself, work out how and where I can pass the ball along for next phase so there won't be a delay of this type again.

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Pizzamandude, we prefer to have phases last longer and be done right than risking you suddenly sending someone a PM reading 'oh, sorry, you died two phases ago and I miscalculated 'cos you're sleepy, you didn't have enough ammo to kill the zombies that had cornered you' or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Makrell

i think atpg has given us enoguh incentive to not go in the water, so i would not do that if i were you.

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We can fish you out with a net.

Put forward a few tasks my co-host(s) can assist me with while I'm at work, but here's a present for you fine folks.

Those of you who have someone standing near you, who you can talk to, will be informed. That way, if you are not by yourselves, you can begin the process of actually talking with someone else in the game about your strategy, what items you might have that you want to trade, where to go and when to split up and when to meet up and where, etc.

That way, this time isn't just dead time, but considered part of the very soon to be opened Interactive Phase.

I also should write the tutorial for the Interactive Phase, but please, do not send in Interactive Phase orders until you've read the tutorial.

Everyone who has someone near enough to them that they can now communicate, has been informed via PM.

If you did not get a PM, that means you're still alone, or surrounded by zombies that you've either slain or fled from. Or there are people hiding from you.

Please make sure your private communications are still within the rules laid out.

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Originally Posted by Player

1. How do you become allies? Both PM to you?
2. How do you complete a trade? Both PM to you?
3. Is a trade completed at the beginning of the interactive round? I.e. if trade trade a weapon in round 1 and get attacked in the same round, can I use this weapon?

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1) Yes
2) Unless you're simply handing someone an item, yes.
3) It is completed after ambushes, but before other forms of combat.

Ambushes are always the first thing that happens in any round. It is the ultimate First Strike.

Also, orders and all other PMs go to Resident Evil, unless they're simply questions like these. I like to handle these ASAP.

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Originally Posted by Jarema

I wonder why are those zombies so easy to kill...
where is challenge in it????

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FIRST ONE TO DIE RIGHT HERE FOLKS, WATCH WHAT U WISH FOR....LOL

I know you fine folks are still waiting on your update cards.

Thankfully my co-host has been assisting me with things while I was at work. I will finish up and send them out to you sometime today, and advance the phase.

Don't wait up, was an absolutely horrible, horrible.... horrible night. Don't ask why.

Will sleep it off and then finish it off.

I am 95% sure velociraptors attacked Pizza's Hut.

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Originally Posted by Double A

I am 95% sure velociraptors attacked Pizza's Hut.

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or burritos

Burritoraptors!

velocofartraptor then!

Ok, just for sanity's sake, if you want to inspect the building's structural integrity at your new location, fire off a PM to Askthepizzaguy's account.

Otherwise I have to look up 51 different values and insert them into each of your update cards, and it really only matters if you're planning on barricading yourself inside or on top. Otherwise it's worthless information and additional busywork for me.

There, that takes care of that problem. :tongue2:

Sooo.. I guess we might get those results soon then? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

Sooo.. I guess we might get those results soon then?

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Yes. About halfway done with the cards. Yours, for example, is done. Then I'll send them all out.

Oh sweet Jebus, I'm finally done.

Sending.

If you do it alphabetically, I'm pissed.

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Originally Posted by Zack

If you do it alphabetically, I'm pissed.

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Me too...

TUTORIAL: HOW TO SEND IN ORDERS FOR INTERACTIVE PHASES



Please read this, and ensure your orders are properly formatted. This helps me and my co-hosts out greatly! I can process improperly formatted orders, but this risks confusion, and delay of the game, as I may have to clarify something with you before continuing. If all 51 players send in properly formatted orders, that reduces delay of game.


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During an interactive phase, you have a limited number of options. You are not moving, you're discussing with nearby people, and you're investigating your surroundings, or you're preparing for battle, or you're hiding from battle, or you're making use of the transportation available, or...

A number of options. Click the spoiler.

Very importantly, this is the only phase you can trade items in.

You can also freely choose to communicate with people in same/adjacent tiles only, and anyone you have radio contact with or have host permission to contact. All other private or public communication is illegal.

You can do any and all of the free actions, but you may choose only one Elective option.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Free actions:

1) Communicate with people in same or adjacent tiles
2) Trade items with people in same or adjacent tiles
3) Interact with the game environment (see: interactions)

• Break into building using Strength, then Search or Barricade (If you did not just Sprint)
• Break into building using an Item (such as a key) then Search or Barricade (If you did not just Sprint)
• Climb on top of the building using the Fire Escape, then Barricade
• Barricade oneself (open buildings only)
• Use the Subway
• Use the Elevated Train
• Obtain Gasoline
• Attempt to commandeer vehicle
• Attempt to use Ferry
• Sabotage equipment
• Other options, location specific

NOTE: Barricade inside / Top of building = Negates the ability to escape during combat.
Rule/Mechanics addendum: Climbing on top of a building automatically gives you +1 sight range, +2 with a sniper weapon.



Elective options:

• Ambush target (Only if you're already hiding) Successful Ambush allows FIRST STRIKE
• Hide/Prepare an Ambush (Allows you to attack targets crossing your zone of control in the next Movement Phase instead of moving)
• Search and Destroy (look for items and attack hidden targets)
• Normal Search (look for items in a 9-tile radius around your present location)
• Attack Target (Choose which specific targets to attack before they move)<----- You can do this if you just Sprinted.
• Do nothing (reduces risk of being attacked by hidden monsters) <----- You can do this if you just Sprinted.
• Defend (Same as Do nothing, but with +1 combat)

Sprinting removes Ambush, Hide/Prepare, Search, Search and Destroy, and Defend as viable options.

Please, format your orders in the following manner:


1) List off all the Free actions you wish to do.

2) Name which Elective option you choose.


SAMPLE ORDERS:

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I trade my Shotgun to GeneralHankerchief, in exchange for his Medical Kit.
I also use my Keycard to open up the City Hall. Then I climb on top of the building and barricade myself.

I Defend.

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I give my First Aid Spray and my pistol to Chaotix, in exchange for nothing.
I board the subway train.

I do a normal search as well.

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If you just Sprinted:

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I trade items with ATPG, red herb for a yellow herb.

I barricade myself inside the nearest building.

I Do Nothing else.

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I don't want to trade.

I just sprinted, so I can't search.

I choose to attack Seamus Fermanagh.

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Much simpler.

Here's a complicated one:

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I trade with Player X,
I trade with Player Y,
I break into the building using strength,
I sabotage all the equipment inside the building,
I climb on top of the roof and barricade myself inside,

Elective option:
And I prepare an ambush from on top of the building (Hide)

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Addendum to the Interactive Phase Tutorial:

Combat is possible during the Interactive Phases.

Unfortunately that means you would have to include MovementPhase-like battle instructions for your battle behavior to be any different this Interactive Phase than from the previous phase.

Otherwise I'll accept your Movement Phase battle instructions as being the same.

This is an oversight on my part- battles during the Interactive phase will be rarer, I'd assume, but that was an assumption on my part.



Also, please send all orders to the following Account: Resident Evil

Do not send orders to Askthepizzaguy.

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Questions? Comments?

BEGIN INTERACTIVE PHASE ONE




You have 2 days and about 5 and a half hours to discuss, and send in your orders.

Due date for ON TIME ORDERS: Monday the 9th of December at Midnight

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Late orders: Tuesday the 10th of December (will receive the usual score penalty, will not accept orders past this date. If I am done with my tasks, I won't accept the order.)

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Originally Posted by Zack

If you do it alphabetically, I'm pissed.

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Started sending them immediately after I posted the tutorial.

Everyone got theirs within 30 minutes of that event. I sent out about 2-4 results per minute.

It's the fastest I can go, guys.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Started sending them immediately after I posted the tutorial.

Everyone got theirs within 30 minutes of that event. I sent out about 2-4 results per minute.

It's the fastest I can go, guys.

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Faster, pizzaman, faster! :whip:

:clown:

I appreciate you hosting this game, it's epicness is already clear.

In case it's easy to skip over, your present location is at the top of your result PM, next to your name, above the part where it says "Results of the Round".

It's small yet important information you obviously need to know, especially if it is not mentioned elsewhere in your result.

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Originally Posted by Zain

Faster, pizzaman, faster! :whip:

:clown:

I appreciate you hosting this game, it's epicness is already clear.

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Yeah well, I still need to tighten up the hosting duties. I have a clear underestimation of how much work it was and how long it takes to do everything.

I figured sending out results would be a snap but that's still half an hour.

It seems a lot smaller in my head, but it's still 51 results. You simply don't have that many to do in a mafia game.

It's all coming back to me now, I tell ya. No wonder this stuff took 30 hours a week to do last time. Sheesh and cripes.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Yeah well, I still need to tighten up the hosting duties. I have a clear underestimation of how much work it was and how long it takes to do everything.

I figured sending out results would be a snap but that's still half an hour.

It seems a lot smaller in my head, but it's still 51 results. You simply don't have that many to do in a mafia game.

It's all coming back to me now, I tell ya. No wonder this stuff took 30 hours a week to do last time. Sheesh and cripes.

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Gladiator will take lots of work too, creativity in the writing side and also the fights will be interesting. If it weren't for Stildawn's tool he made me I would've probably caved under the pressure.

Hosting, although lots of work, is still very enjoyable though, IMO.

If you sent a question to Askthepizzaguy's inbox, it should have been answered by now. If you have not gotten an answer, swat me on the head and please re-send it.

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Originally Posted by Zain

Gladiator will take lots of work too, creativity in the writing side and also the fights will be interesting. If it weren't for Stildawn's tool he made me I would've probably caved under the pressure.

Hosting, although lots of work, is still very enjoyable though, IMO.

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Hmph. Some of this stuff COULD be automated. There's a lot of tasks that could be easily repeatable by a computer 50 times.

Each automated function, however simple, could save me 30 minutes of work. I'll definitely ask about specific functions having a repeat tool.

This is all you need:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Hmph. Some of this stuff COULD be automated. There's a lot of tasks that could be easily repeatable by a computer 50 times.

Each automated function, however simple, could save me 30 minutes of work. I'll definitely ask about specific functions having a repeat tool.

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Seriously let me know ATPG, I can pretty much code anything lol, even with hundreds of variables (though I'd rather not lol). It might be a bit late now to make a completely automated system which I could have at the beginning, but I can certainly make you some spot tools to tackle certain things quickly.

Sorry forgot my actual question.

If you have the time ATPG, could you make a table of contents list in your OP, linking to all your posts on rules, tutorials etc. They are hard to find in the massive thread lol.

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Originally Posted by Stildawn

Sorry forgot my actual question.

If you have the time ATPG, could you make a table of contents list in your OP, linking to all your posts on rules, tutorials etc. They are hard to find in the massive thread lol.

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Yup, it's time for something like this to happen, definitely.

One thing I am not particularly good at is organizing the large volume of things I juggle.

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Originally Posted by Stildawn

Seriously let me know ATPG, I can pretty much code anything lol, even with hundreds of variables (though I'd rather not lol). It might be a bit late now to make a completely automated system which I could have at the beginning, but I can certainly make you some spot tools to tackle certain things quickly.

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I need some time to think this over, and see which pieces can be fully automated.

Basically, all I want is tools to repeat certain tasks over and over. Battles are a bit too complicated to automate.

Pizzaman, do the sun and moon affect visibility?

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Originally Posted by El Barto

Pizzaman, do the sun and moon affect visibility?

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Not a lot of sunlight going to happen this game. It's 815 pm, and most of you will be dead before sunrise.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Not a lot of sunlight going to happen this game. It's 815 pm, and most of you will be dead before sunrise.

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http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...e8AoW75fis.gif

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Originally Posted by Jolt

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...e8AoW75fis.gif

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Well.....




https://i.imgur.com/cIBKwNr.jpg

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I need some time to think this over, and see which pieces can be fully automated.

Basically, all I want is tools to repeat certain tasks over and over. Battles are a bit too complicated to automate.

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Nothings too complicated to automate lol. But yep let me know what you need.

Update:

Current Strength of the Zombie Horde:

• 36 Alpha Zombies
• El Gigante

Note: This information will be deliberately vague; sometimes not particularly accurate or precise.

You should've said 6^2 to screw with the people who don't know their exponentials.

I promise you, the screwing with people will commence very shortly.

Speaking of which, all of you in groups larger than two should be pooping yourselves right now, since there was no El Gigante attack.

He's still on the move, and he wants to crush your bones. You might have 15 minutes left to live.

This will be your only warning.

I understand it is really late but I would like to sign up as a reserve. Haven't checked here in ages.

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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

I understand it is really late but I would like to sign up as a reserve. Haven't checked here in ages.

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Absolutely. Been wondering where you were, dude.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Absolutely. Been wondering where you were, dude.

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Also I hope that whoever is playing as Oswald Hamilton keeps up my fine tradition of living. Lol that is if he is in the game.

Please read all the rules and mechanics carefully, some things are different.

Also, you may be called to active duty sooner than you think. I know everyone got their orders in this time, but that was with a replacement person.

I can easily lose a player, have done so a few times before the game even started.

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Originally Posted by Player

I'm having a devil of a time tracking down information about alliances. Does anybody remember whether making one is a free action, and what the benefits of one are?

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You can form an alliance at any time.

All involved PM me your consent to it. It's done.

Basically, you know where the other person is even if they choose to hide within your zone of control, unless they betray you, you fight together and automatically do not target the other person unless you specifically tell me to.

Grenades like flash and hand grenade do not affect this person.

If this person is non-human, you still do not target them when attacking non-humans.

Addendum to the Interactive Phase Tutorial:

Combat is possible during the Interactive Phases.

Unfortunately that means you would have to include MovementPhase-like battle instructions for your battle behavior to be any different this Interactive Phase than from the previous phase.

Otherwise I'll accept your Movement Phase battle instructions as being the same.

This is an oversight on my part- battles during the Interactive phase will be rarer, I'd assume, but that was an assumption on my part.

Thanks for your queries. This game is complicated enough where your questions help me define the rules if they haven't been written out ahead of time.

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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

Also I hope that whoever is playing as Oswald Hamilton keeps up my fine tradition of living. Lol that is if he is in the game.

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There's a Frank and Billy. So there's probably an Oswald as well. I don't think our chars are in the game though, bit unfair if you remember the old names.

And we would totally need to keep our stat boosts and weapons. ~D

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Originally Posted by Ironside

There's a Frank and Billy. So there's probably an Oswald as well. I don't think our chars are in the game though, bit unfair if you remember the old names.

And we would totally need to keep our stat boosts and weapons. ~D

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True but I was thinking we could still be some awesome npc's

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Originally Posted by Zack

This is all you need:

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if (NotTown && SeesZack)
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There is no Town in this game, my dear Texan friend.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Not a lot of sunlight going to happen this game. It's 815 pm, and most of you will be dead before sunrise.

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You've not answered about moonlight.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

There is no Town in this game, my dear Texan friend.

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....Yes there is.

Barto spewing himself zombie.

One of the two is guaranteed town - which is it?

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

One of the two is guaranteed town - which is it?

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Well, you're obviously not :stare: