Sleep - Are you still wiping the sweat off your forehead? Did I stun you into silence?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
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Sleep - Are you still wiping the sweat off your forehead? Did I stun you into silence?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
Who's misyeet bait?Quote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
I didn't read pocket accepted as a town read; I read it as yay song twinsies. Although I might not have questioned it even if I thought it was that.
tmi tbh bbq atmQuote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
also that read on me seems poorly constructed. the wagons on rask and monty began after I specifically pointed them out as being wolfy. surely if you wanted to push me for my reads, it'd be for stagnation, not opportunism, which is the argument you could make for everyone else voting them
but it doesn't really parse anyway since you throw in a certainty that both rask and monty are misyeet bait while neither of them make it onto your limited town list
will try to be here for EOD goodbye hugs and kisses
How am I supposed to know that?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
Most disliked post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
:stars:Quote:
i don't have a lot of experience with monty besides getting stomped in a game on CFC years ago, but I associate his analytical approach with genuine solving, and I don't feel there is genuine solving involved here. they're smart-sounding posts for the sake of appearing smart. there isn't really much you can do on d1, tbf, but that's why you just go with vibes instead of milking a rock for all it's worth
:mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
People say this every game.Quote:
i dunno, i have never seen monty wolf but i have seen him village and I kinda feel like he is missong some of the edge here
You were the one who caught him in Rask's game a year ago, right? I expect you to keep up the good work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Stay the course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
I don't have any strong reads, just bracing to humiliatingly misread Ender or Kage or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
pffQuote:
Originally Posted by Wisdom
Part of this is scary mindmeld, but there's a catch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
:creep:Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
Possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
:uhoh2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
How did rask lean extremely hard into a town read on you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
I want to ask you more about your expectations on Monty's analytical approach and how it matches up here, but I'm not sure there's more to explain with what's here. But if you have more, I'd love to hear it. I can't make up my mind on whether or not I think Monty is scum or if I'm just confused by him.
Is your homesite the syndicate? I think I've specced some games with syndicate people and enjoyed their approach. I wish I could remember the names; it's been a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
You pointing out your wolf tells here and there is endearing. Not sure if it's alignment indicative, but I enjoy it nonetheless.
And this is a bit of a mind meldQuote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Is Monty hard to read in general?Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
I expected to get called out for that actually! It's more important to me that people don't end up confused today and I get some suspicion for explaining it than the alternative. (Sadly enough I think I'm probably out of my scum range. At least I think I am; I haven't drawn scum in years and I expect that to be a terribly obvious showing when I do. Hope not though!)
Why ender? Is that implying you scum read him or would be willing to vote him or is that just spitballing thoughts? (Oh you vote him later, so I guess it's an actual scum read.) I think he's town are you saying my tone read sucks?
Nope, this is not allowed. I joined this game specifically to play with you and you are not allowed to leave night one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan
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I like Ladd's posts, nothing groundbreakingly town in them, but I get that feel nonetheless.
Monty - when you say that you are bracing to humiliatingly misread Ender, do you usually scum read them when town or town read them as scum?
(Man I hate posting like this.)
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:wacky:Quote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
No, I was able to townlock him ride or die midgame our last play together, though it didn't save us in the end. So it would be embarrassing to MR him.Quote:
Monty - when you say that you are bracing to humiliatingly misread Ender, do you usually scum read them when town or town read them as scum?
Is that you agreeing your hard to read?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
What is your read on him so far this game?
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Considering sheeping Jan.
Thanks a lot. I don't really feel like I have a strong stance at this moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
Inclined to kill a low-hanging fruit because a quarter of the game is not really playing so far.
And I don't have a confident wolfread.
This is not fun, but keeping dead slots around is also not a real option. (Plus I likely won't make EoD)
... no? lolQuote:
I think he's town are you saying my tone read sucks?
this is weirdly defensive - the read i made was not strong in any sense
https://i1.wp.com/paigefinndoherty.c...encesitter.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Visor
vote:el barto
Gonna make a boring place holder but 99% ill be back
I dont say this often but this feels like the kind of game that could use some eod chaos
Same. I was considering voting Monty but his more recent posts have me feeling like maybe I'm confused by him rather than I scum read him. Don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan
heh that was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek. I mean I am interested in your read and whether or not I should even take my tone read seriously, but I'm not feeling defensive about it. I am feeling really hyper and punchy at the moment though! I blame all the coffee I drank on an empty stomach while grading midterms; I don't usually drink coffee and right now it feels like there's a ping pong tournament going on inside my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
oh okay, i can see it now
tone just struck me as weird lol
i get it, but i won't be voting there #biasQuote:
Originally Posted by ladd
talk to me a bit about ender if u can pls
Already threw him off my v readsQuote:
Originally Posted by Visor
It was mostly a silly read based on his v first post about cereals
Rest of his posts are w/e
What makes you feel that way about monty s recent posts?Quote:
Same. I was considering voting Monty but his more recent posts have me feeling like maybe I'm confused by him rather than I scum read him. Don't know.
I haven't had a D1 quite like this in a long, long time.
Wagons are
3 Rask/Monty
2 Syn/Bart
Only Kage not voting/posting.
I'll only be back for EOD hour, so don't go too crazy uWu.
So your wolf read on monty is real?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
Can you explain why?
If i stop posting it means i went to sleep
Feel like the good stuff will happen last 2ish hours of today but i def wont be awake for it
I am warming up to Sui, maybe i am just falling for their good tone but their posting seems okay
I feel like i should be concerned about rask (and maybe i am) but their SoD was still good enough that i dont wanna vote them today
We are about to start watching "Life is Beautiful" (1997).
Which means I am around for another 2 hours or so.
Going to bed
vote: Montmercy
Glgl
And I am awake. The revolving door works once more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisdom
id prefer either ender or wisdom to die i thikn
prob ender
His 166 and 167 felt a bit more natural? Looking back there's not a huge reason why and scum could definitely feel a bit more natural as they settle in from early awkwardness, but I liked I liked the scary mind meld with a catch response to taffy and your read's posts, and I liked the bit about bracing himself for humiliatingly misreading ender or kage.Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
So, yeah not enough to go this guy is town, but enough for me to consider that I might just be confused by his earlier approach.
no don't think so, we might have been in a game once years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Gira on MU, i assume it's been discussed but just for clarity's sake will confirmQuote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
dunno this all feels extremely reachyQuote:
Originally Posted by Syn
in particular "stayed up specifically to spam copypastas" is a big nothing, beyond that your sole point is he is townreading you which is not terribly convincing
im not necessarily asking about worldviews but montys whole game basically has been built around criticizing rask and it feels like ur not actually trying to analyze what hes saying so much as you decided to call him scum on page 1 and then use any reason to justify it, i would expect a townie to try to reduce cognitive dissonance there but it looks like a very vague generic attack rather than anything based on his actual content
The person who didn't recognise a pasta for what it was and/or didn't look at the player listQuote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
The person who reacted poorly under pressure
The person who made one naked vote and no other posts
These people could be wolves, but this is all very obvious stuff other players are going to scumread you for, and both Jan and Syn are making much more out of it than is warranted for what is probably going to turn out NAI flubbing.
Why not me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
The player who makes posts that are good enough on tone not to immediately ping you but without sticking with you is more likely scum.
i'm loving it, already plotting how to troll you by openwolfing in your face againQuote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
are you trying to argue visor should be scumreading youQuote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
we've voted each other enough :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
It's D1 and I'm playing with a bunch of people who have never played with me before, from experience my expectation is to get pushed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
All of you cannot be experts in reading awkward lowposters. And mostly I'm trying to push Visor for a read but well...
mission failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
https://media.tenor.com/b_oe8JW7cUoA...feels-like.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Me: Posts I'm awake
Also me: Gets distracted with discord chatting.
Anyway, actual reading thread time.
what are you seeing with syn that i'm notQuote:
Originally Posted by ladd
tammy hates wolfing and everytime i've seen jan draw wolf in a mash he's phoned it in. obviously vastly different game environments but for someone who has been semi-retired for a long time he seemed eager to get into the thick of it in a way that is way more likely town
Rask is probably town btw. Not just a tone read.
I didn't say this before now because I liked people voting/talking about em and wanted to see if that gathered any further info, but I had the read from... page 2 probably.
Oh I thought you were referring to them as misyeet bait in general, as in it's par for the course for them, and I was wondering why you had expectations that they should know that. Well Syn would make sense, but it looks like it's Jan's first game here, so you putting that expectation there felt odd. But you were just referencing low-hanging fruit in terms of their posting, so that makes a bit more sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
I've also pushed on Monty and you didn't include that in the reasoning why you scum read me, so I didn't know if you were including Monty in your misyeet bait list.
cries in shouting to the rooftops that you're scum while getting told by the rest of town that I don't know what I'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
GOOD TIMES
Mashes are just there to phone it in while you chat with friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
I think my last normal game was the thing earlier this year and Wiggles Breaking Bad anon game the year before.
(But if you ppl want to play some blood on the Clocktower I am always down to clown).
Anyway I am not certain how I would play this game as wolf. My play normally is dictated a lot more by my mood but I tend to get exhausted in mashes as a wolf.
the important lesson is that you need to learn to sound more competent, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
This vote is still the worst. Justifications and also completely weirdly at odds with the tone of it. Even acknowledges it might be a copypasta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I think I'll ignore if Monty was in the game or not because I can't be bothered to go remember which game it was to check. And also I forget things all the time so I can't *really* fault Monty if he just plain forgot that post.
This reaction to being called out about his post tho feels kinda off. Like a "Why single out meee!" kind of statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
These are his only posts in thread so far, he cares more about how his vote is perceived than adding to any other content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
The next post is a meme response to my meme response which was... funny enough I guess but not the point.
And then again:
Monty's actual game talk has been (into page 3 already) only about his vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
And again. I'm actually curious when he makes his first read/talk/whatever that isn't about the vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Then finally on page 6 he comments about posts other than the vote. (Which is already over half the day done.)
A lot of it is vague statements with a statement he has no "strong reads" and a pockety statement about "mindmelding scarily with a catch" with Taffy. (Notably the wolfreads didn't contain Rask. He makes no statement about this.)
I'll note that if I remember right I also townread Monty early on that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Not a strong argument but a dissimilarity to here.
And that's about all of Monty's posts.
Like idk about you but I'm not feeling like Monty cares about solving this game aside from making sure his vote doesn't look bad. He hasn't even tried to push on Rask. He's made more comments about how Rask reads his vote than that.
wisdom's posts on pg 4/5 do nothing for me
i would rather dieQuote:
Originally Posted by Jan
Good luck getting as much effort about any of my other reads this phase.
My other sort of scumread rn is Jan.
Mostly cause (and this is going to sound self-centred I know), the following post:
It feels like the lame-duck style I see often used to shade people without directly attacking them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan
I also don't know Jan that well so this is a wild hipshot of a read but I feel good about it.
Oh I just got reminded by seeing Sleep's posts that their main entry felt like obligation to do more work than they needed to. Which takes 3rd place on my scumread list.
It's a good list I swear.
:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
weirdly enough i also did not like that post but msotly because it felt like just putting words out to comment on something - almost forcedQuote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
Sui gets a townread for their bubbly approach to making reads. (This is not a pocket I swear.)
I promise to review this read on...
*Checks smudged writing on hand.*
Day 3, because their style of play also strikes me as one I'll probably townread.
Indeed I do! Will you teach me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan
And Ender's post that follows this one makes me feel like my earlier thoughts about Monty were on target and not just confusion. hrm
that is a valid option in the game of werewolf tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
I'm adopting this reasoning because it sounds less self-centred.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Thank you for your contribution.
truthfully i don't really care about that at allQuote:
Like idk about you but I'm not feeling like Monty cares about solving this game aside from making sure his vote doesn't look bad. He hasn't even tried to push on Rask. He's made more comments about how Rask reads his vote than that.
would prefer to leave monty for another day
Ladd feels mildly opportunistic in the way his reads have moved. I'm keeping this one in my back pocket but I'm also not gonna explain it because idk. I'm not calling this one a scumread so much as--
Actually yeah nm Ladd can be 4th on my list.
What do you mean it was supposed to only be 3 names??
Well unless you gimme a good reason to go somewhere else I'm not gonna.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Right I nearly forgot. But Taffy trying to bait people into scumreading them is actually towny I think.
that's weird because i felt the opposite way where a lot of what he was posting was pure filler and i liked him less than i did earlier because he didn't seem to be producing actual thoughtsQuote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
Anyone I haven't listed has either not made a post I care about. Or I've forgotten.
Which is entirely possible given I'm on like 3 hours sleep and more coffee than I should probably admit.
only person here who is an awkward lowposter atp is barto? i think everyone else has a decent amount of contentQuote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
probs a towny approach though, shrug
really good post by ender, this gets to what i took issue with from monty but in more words than i could be bothered to use. just feels like monty is stalled in neutralQuote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
The "awkward Lowposter" in reference was Taffy themselves I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
town!ender. lock it in
I agree with this too. When Ladd asked me what I liked about the posts and went back I realized that it was mostly emojis and what I liked were a couple sentences that aren't really all that alignment indicative but I had a knee-jerk maybe I'm just confused by him reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
it's d1 I'm not going to galaxy-brain anything yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Sleep
i too like to ignore the second half of sentences in my responses. the key point in that is that rask tends to overcompensate (e.g., pocket) when wolfing, and trying to appear hyper-present/enthusiastic and committing to a hard read d1 meets that criteriaQuote:
in particular "stayed up specifically to spam copypastas" is a big nothing, beyond that your sole point is he is townreading you which is not terribly convincing
it's been a fairly stagnant reason. I don't believe I have come up with anything else to scum-read him for since thenQuote:
im not necessarily asking about worldviews but montys whole game basically has been built around criticizing rask and it feels like ur not actually trying to analyze what hes saying so much as you decided to call him scum on page 1 and then use any reason to justify it, i would expect a townie to try to reduce cognitive dissonance there but it looks like a very vague generic attack rather than anything based on his actual content
anyway all my homies love cognitive dissonance
I do not like my wagon partners
that's because i did! i got the notice i was replacing in, then procrastinated for a few hours, and by that time it was 1 AM but i didn't feel like leaving the thread with nothing before i went to sleep (no pun intended). call it self-conscious if you like, i knew if i just made an intro post and dipped i was probably going to catch shit for it and then i wind up getting into arguments with people and it completely kills my ability to actually get reads.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
meh
unvote: syn
vote: wisdom
ladd basically feels like himself i don't think anything he's posted is super alignment indicative so farQuote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
Oh so is Taffy's view that they're an awkward low poster and is used to getting pushed by poeple that don't know them therefore it's suspicious that they're not getting pushed by people that don't know them? Is that what they meant?
Sleep - why wisdom?
unvote: Rask
vote: Taffy
He posted a most excellent song, with gripping lyrics and moving delivery.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
Phew! Now let me enjoy my food.
https://i.imgur.com/WWvnlHn.gif
Now that's a name I haven't seen in exactly 10 years, since the very first interfora Mafia Champs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisdom
What's different about him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
I don't hold your wall against you.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
no i think taffy was criticizing people for voting awkward low postersQuote:
Originally Posted by Suibian
chewed it over in my head and was the vote i felt best with - i don't know how to explain it in meta terms but when wisdom is town i expect them to make it obvious in terms of their energy and here they feel like they're not showing that, comes across as posting just to post
oh guess i was wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
One thing I'm relatively sure of for now is that Taffy-Syn antipaired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
I think only Rask really got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
It's a nice wall to hold tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Kind of like the subtle paranoia of Taffy expecting to be pushed but not being pushed. Makes the thinking I accepted a town read I shouldn't and ignored make more sense.
Sleep - I was kinda expecting your vote to end up on Monty based on your posting so your wisdom vote was a surprise. I didn't remember anything they posted, so I read through their iso to see if I should sheep you and they seem fine? How strong is your meta read there?